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Allotment Stuff => Allotment Movement => Topic started by: monty d on March 19, 2011, 17:01:37
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hi, i am from a site in erdington, i have just heard that there are plans to get rid of our current committee at our next agm. i think this is terrible as they have worked really hard to improve the site especially the chairwoman >:(
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'I have heard' is all too often used as 'evidence' on allotment sites.
a committee can't be 'pushed out' as such, but a new one can be elected in?
(you can't vote anyone out, you have to vote someone in)
if folk are genuinely happy with the current committee, why would they vote in someone new?
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there has been a lot of back stabbing and lies spread, i was made to sign a petition for something last year that was a bunch of lies. people seem to get sucked in to things and not find out the truth. it just seems a few nasty people have nothing better to do. i will be supporting the committee and have told others to do the same
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I am from Court Lane allotments and the only time I have been asked to put my signiature to anything was last year when our Allotment Secretary and Treasurer stood down. We added our name to a list of others who wanted them to reconsider their decision.
Perhaps you have been asked to sign something else that I am not aware of.
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if folk are genuinely happy with the current committee, why would they vote in someone new?
What used to happen on a committee that I was on (not allotment related) is somebody would compain and whinge about the committee, and then get a group of members to go to the AGM to vote them in.
Although the majority did not want this, the majority did not turn up to vote so they often got in.
These people tended to be a waste of space, and come the next AGM they would be voted out, normally replaced by the previous person, that's if they had not already resigned.
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there has been a lot of back stabbing and lies spread, i was made to sign a petition for something last year that was a bunch of lies.
1, back stabbing and lies spread is 'normal for allotments' in my experience
2, you were 'made' to sign something? at knife-point, or by some other means? ;)
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Hi i am from Court Lane Allotments can you please tell me where you get your news from as no one on our Allotments nows
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Hi i am from Court Lane Allotments can you please tell me where you get your news from as no one on our Allotments nows
in some 'old boy's shed' probably, same as on most allotment sites!! LOL
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i am not from court lane allotments, i am from birches green. do you have problems on your site to ?
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there has been a lot of back stabbing and lies spread, i was made to sign a petition for something last year that was a bunch of lies. people seem to get sucked in to things and not find out the truth. it just seems a few nasty people have nothing better to do. i will be supporting the committee and have told others to do the same
I dont understand the " i was made to sign a petition for something last year that was a bunch of lies."
It seems that you did not want to suport the committee then so why now
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I must apologise Monty. I forgot that there was more than one allotment site in Erdington. In fact we came to your open day last summer. Hope you get the result that the majority of the plotholders desire.
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i don't think us normal sensible ones will :'( as i said before some people are just nasty and small minded
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there has been a lot of back stabbing and lies spread, i was made to sign a petition for something last year that was a bunch of lies. people seem to get sucked in to things and not find out the truth. it just seems a few nasty people have nothing better to do. i will be supporting the committee and have told others to do the same
I dont understand the " i was made to sign a petition for something last year that was a bunch of lies."
It seems that you did not want to suport the committee then so why now
i did support them then, but i was made to feel like i had to sign it or be shunned by everyone on site, i had only been there 6 months
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Sorry to read that... Since getting my plot a few years ago and joining the Association, I have quickly learnt how differences in opinions can cause issues on the site and how fickle plot holders can be.
Only thing I can think of is, if enough supporters of the current committee attend the AGM and the current committee stand for re-election and get their votes... then unless the new people who wish to push out the current committee get more votes to over turn the current committee they shouldn't be able to do it. (If that makes sense - sorry it's been a long day)
Sadly, I can see our Association ending at the next AGM, due to the only people who do anything planning on resigning… Perhaps it will continue with a new committee for a year or so but don't think it will last, people are quick to say to yes then do little or back out when they don't like something or there is work to do.
Once it's gone it's back to square one... no funds to make fence repairs or improvements and nobody talking to eachother :'(
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good news everyone, our committee got voted back in. there was a obvious plan to overthrow them as people were outside the agm telling plot holders to vote against them !!
also there seemed to be a few questions purposely asked by a few people targeted at the chairwoman.
but no worries the best ones won in the end ;D
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good news everyone, our committee got voted back in. there was a obvious plan to overthrow them as people were outside the agm telling plot holders to vote against them !!
also there seemed to be a few questions purposely asked by a few people targeted at the chairwoman.
but no worries the best ones won in the end ;D
I'm getting a bit confused here.
You said that you were from Birches Green allotments in Erdington, and that the Chair is a woman. You said that the committee has been voted back in at the AGM.
I happen to be quite friendly with a member of the committee at Birches Green who tells me that the Chair is in fact a man, and that their AGM isn't until the end of April.
Sorry if I've misunderstood what you've written, but what's going on? ???
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Come on monty, do tell... :-\
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Are you monty d or Julie
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who is julie ??
my screen name is monty d
my name is richard
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U's sussed baby. :P
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The bigger boys made me do it. :'( :'( :'(
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Were they on bikes?
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I'd still like to know what's going on.
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Is it
a. Monty
b. Julie
c. Richard or
d. Colonel Mustard in the conservatory with the dagger. :P
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Is it
a. Monty
b. Julie
c. Richard or
d. Colonel Mustard in the conservatory with the dagger. :P
Trust you Kev! ;D
Joking apart, it puzzles me why someone would want to come on a forum, say which allotment site they were supposedly from and then make up a story about the committee being pushed out when it was obviously untrue.
I wonder if Monty will come back and explain?
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ok hands up, my girlfriends mom has 1/2 a plot there and has been telling us about things going on there which have been upsetting her. she didn't want to post anything incase it came back to her in some way.
sorry all :'(
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ok hands up, my girlfriends mom has 1/2 a plot there and has been telling us about things going on there which have been upsetting her. she didn't want to post anything incase it came back to her in some way.
sorry all :'(
What are you appologising for exactly? That you made unattributable and unsubstantiated accusations against allotmenteers at a specific site, or that those accusations were false and malicious?
Why post this here at all? If there is an accusation to be made against members of a site association then isn't it appropriate to bring the complaint before the committee in person and allow the members accused the opportunity to defend the allegations in privicy and with dignity? Accusing people of coercion and telling lies is a serious matter, and if the allegations can't be substantiated there may very well be some come back if the allegations are not made in good faith.
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ok hands up, my girlfriends mom has 1/2 a plot there and has been telling us about things going on there which have been upsetting her. she didn't want to post anything incase it came back to her in some way.
sorry all :'(
So which site is your girlfriend's mom really from? Birches Green or Court Lane?
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I have to say that hearing from all of the hoo haa,s that allotment comittees seem to bring, i am so happy that we are in a small plot of 7 allotment holders.
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lottiedolly thats cos you only hear the moans on here! there are many many excellent committees the country over dedicated to producing sterling work for the benefit of the plotholders,and all for nowt!
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lottiedolly thats cos you only hear the moans on here! there are many many excellent committees the country over dedicated to producing sterling work for the benefit of the plotholders,and all for nowt!
Well said Elvis!
I don't know why 'Monty D' started this thread apart from wanting to cause trouble on his site. Or his girlfriend's mother's site. Or whatever.
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Oh,by the way Squash,one of our plotholders emailed a link to me,for an allotment website he thought was great and that I would like to see....guess whose it was? ;)
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Can't guess this one- give me a clue? meow ;D
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;D
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:o :-[ :)
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Oh,by the way Squash,one of our plotholders emailed a link to me,for an allotment website he thought was great and that I would like to see....guess whose it was? ;)
go on Rach, tell us!! ;)
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I made it clear that anyone can stand for the committee when I sent the agenda out, or ask for more information.
Just off to the plot to meet the delivery wagoon bringing our first ever order for our "Shop"
Hope a few more folks come to help - have got a few offers!! so just hope all goes well.
AGM on sunday- no-ones come forward to go on committee yet ;)
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I have to say Betty, although our small 7 plot bit of land is lovely, i have to applaud you and all your allotmenteers on your site. I had to have a look on your website and even your website is welcoming, it is a great mix of people you have and great facilities, am I jealous, Moi!!! well, just a little bit. I admit when i am in the wrong and you seem to have a great comunity there. Well done Betty and all of your committee members, please keep up the good work that you do.
Kxxx
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Oh,by the way Squash,one of our plotholders emailed a link to me,for an allotment website he thought was great and that I would like to see....guess whose it was? ;)
go on Rach, tell us!! ;)
Squashy!
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I made it clear that anyone can stand for the committee when I sent the agenda out, or ask for more information.
Just off to the plot to meet the delivery wagoon bringing our first ever order for our "Shop"
Hope a few more folks come to help - have got a few offers!! so just hope all goes well.
AGM on sunday- no-ones come forward to go on committee yet ;)
It's our AGM on Sunday too. I put a form up in the pavilion asking for nominations for Chair, Treasurer and Secretary. Nobody put anything! I suppose that means they are happy with what they've got.
Hope you got your helpers for the Shop, and good luck for Sunday.
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it's our AGM next Tuesday.
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Helpers came and quickly unloaded the wagoon ;D
Then i set on a new tennant, that takes nearly and hour.
Was trying to get my potatoes in when a plot holder lit a bonfire then b********d off. Nice windy day so 15 minutes later it was spreading onto another pile of rubbish and starting to burn her gooseberry bush ???
Then got some water and put it out before the neighbours reported an unattended fire out of control and wasted tax payers money on a fire call out >:(
Some come on push me out then I can just go on my plot and get me tatties in!!!
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I have to say Betty, although our small 7 plot bit of land is lovely, i have to applaud you and all your allotmenteers on your site. I had to have a look on your website and even your website is welcoming, it is a great mix of people you have and great facilities, am I jealous, Moi!!! well, just a little bit. I admit when i am in the wrong and you seem to have a great comunity there. Well done Betty and all of your committee members, please keep up the good work that you do.
Kxxx
Ahh, that's really kind of you, thank you. :)
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We had our AGM last Saturday and I stood down as secretary. No nominations before the meeting but we managed to get someone to replace me at least on a trial basis. The committee is still one member short. Maybe it should be a requirement on the missive of let that every member must serve on the committee ... a bit like jury duty?? ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
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We had our AGM last Saturday and I stood down as secretary. No nominations before the meeting but we managed to get someone to replace me at least on a trial basis. The committee is still one member short. Maybe it should be a requirement on the missive of let that every member must serve on the committee ... a bit like jury duty?? ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
we've got about 700 members, it'd be a nightmare!
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Oh I wasn't thinking of it as a general rule Tony, just on our site where we have about 100 members and a committee of nine. Anyway it's not going to happen!!
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We managed to get through half a demijohn of parsnip wine at last Com. meeting so it's good there's only 9 of us! must get some more made ;D
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We managed to get through half a demijohn of parsnip wine at last Com. meeting so it's good there's only 9 of us! must get some more made ;D
can I come to the next meeting? ( I'll bring my own glass) :)
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We managed to get through half a demijohn of parsnip wine at last Com. meeting so it's good there's only 9 of us! must get some more made ;D
can I come to the next meeting? ( I'll bring my own glass) :)
You'd be welcome ;D
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It was our AGM today and it went very smoothly and was all over in about 40 minutes. We have a new treasurer, but only because the current one is giving up due to ill-health. The Chairman and I were both re-elected and we gained two new committee members - Shirl and another plot holder.
I was really concerned beforehand that someone would complain about the cats but nobody did. In fact, there were no serious complaints at all.
We had wine and cake afterwards and everyone went home happy. And the cats can sleep safely in their beds...... :)
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Glad yours went well Betty so did ours.
We presented our ex- secretary with a card and orchid as he has just given up his plot having celebrated his 90th birthday last week :)
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Betty, how did you get the AGM over in 40 minutes??
Ours - at the end of January - went fairly smoothly; but we had the Community Police there, so had a long discussion on site security; had various questions from the floor; plus the Treasurer's report and the Chairman's report summing up the past year - quite a lot had happened! - so we were double your length.
We also had a slide show to start & finish, plus refreshments and a raffle, which paid for the hire of the hall.
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Glad yours went well Betty so did ours.
We presented our ex- secretary with a card and orchid as he has just given up his plot having celebrated his 90th birthday last week :)
It's good to hear about AGMs that run smoothly, isn't it! I'm glad yours was okay too, an orchid is a lovely present. :)
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Betty, how did you get the AGM over in 40 minutes??
Ours - at the end of January - went fairly smoothly; but we had the Community Police there, so had a long discussion on site security; had various questions from the floor; plus the Treasurer's report and the Chairman's report summing up the past year - quite a lot had happened! - so we were double your length.
We also had a slide show to start & finish, plus refreshments and a raffle, which paid for the hire of the hall.
We didn't have any guest speakers but we did have a Chairman's report. I sat next to him and told him before the meeting that if I suddenly leaned on him it meant he was rambling and that he should stop. ;) I didn't have to. I don't give a report because it's all in the Chairman's report. The Treasurer forgot to do one, but invited questions, there weren't any.
We had questions at the end, there were a few but nothing controversial.
The Chairman asked if anything needed to be done differently and was told "If it isn't broken, don't fix it"!
We didn't have a raffle because we only do them at Christmas.
About 30 plot holders plus committee attended.
I suppose we decided to keep it fairly short because it is held on a Sunday morning which is the time when many people work on their plots.
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Shirl on the committee, :o watch out Betty she'll take over and won't stop until she takes over the world. :P
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Wine and cake was lovely ;D
To Kev------I only joined for the free wine and cake that I hope they have at every meeting.My first suggestion is that they should meet once a week ;D
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Go girl. ;D
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hi, i am from a site in erdington, i have just heard that there are plans to get rid of our current committee at our next agm. i think this is terrible as they have worked really hard to improve the site especially the chairwoman >:(
Hi all just to let you no wee have a new treasray as the old one has steeped down she has had Enif
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;D ;D ;D