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Title: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: aquilegia on January 04, 2011, 14:30:46
Hi everyone

Sorry I've not been on here much recently, too busy doing the christmas thing to think about gardening!

I got some jerusalem artichokes in my veg box this week. There are a few tubers left. Can I plant these to grow more? If so, when? (I've googled, but couldn't find the answer!)
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: valmarg on January 04, 2011, 15:52:42
Yes.  I think you can.

valmarg
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Flighty on January 04, 2011, 15:54:35
I would give it a go!  Plant them in February or March, about 6" deep and 15" apart, and remember that they grow to 9 feet or more so be careful where you put them.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 04, 2011, 16:12:51
Shove them in, they're almost indestructible.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: GodfreyRob on January 04, 2011, 16:40:43
Shove them in, they're almost indestructible.

They sure are!

They will need support though in an exposed spot. But if you string them up between a couple of posts they can protect anything downwind.

Nigel Slater had a great recipe for them last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/winter_roots_and_lemon_06059
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: aquilegia on January 04, 2011, 19:06:53
Shove them in, they're almost indestructible.
Nigel Slater had a great recipe for them last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/winter_roots_and_lemon_06059

It was watching that that made me think about growing them! I don't have quite enough left to roast!

Will they keep ok until I can plant them out? They are in a paper bag in the fridge at the moment. Would they be better in the shed? (they'd certainly be better protected from pests (ie - me!) eating them!)

I can plant them along the south side of the hedge, so they won't shade anything out and they will be fairly well protected from wind.

Talking of which, I must get some winter savoury too!

Thanks for the replies.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: lottie lou on January 04, 2011, 19:10:56
I have bunged mine in a pot of compost to stop them shrivelling up.  At least with a bit of luck this will give them a head start
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: valmarg on January 04, 2011, 19:35:03
Shove them in, they're almost indestructible.

.. they can protect anything downwind.

Nigel Slater had a great recipe for them last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/winter_roots_and_lemon_06059

And downwind is where you want to be of anyone who has eaten them. ;D ;D

Also if memory serves, Nigel Slater dug up some that had been left in the gound from summer.

valmarg
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: pumkinlover on January 04, 2011, 19:38:54

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And downwind is where you want to be of anyone who has eaten them. ;D ;D



valmarg

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Surely downwind is where you don't want to be!!!! :)
Anne x
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: valmarg on January 04, 2011, 21:34:43
And downwind is where you want to be of anyone who has eaten them. ;D
valmarg
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Surely downwind is where you don't want to be!!!! :)
Anne x
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Oh dear, I think I missed out the word 'don't. ie 'Down wind is where you don't want to be.

Jerusalem artichokes would not be a veg I would recommend.  Not very tasty.

valmarg
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: GodfreyRob on January 04, 2011, 21:54:57
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And downwind is where you want to be of anyone who has eaten them. ;D
valmarg
Surely downwind is where you don't want to be!!!! :)
Anne x

Oh dear, I think I missed out the word 'don't. ie 'Down wind is where you don't want to be.

Jerusalem artichokes would not be a veg I would recommend.  Not very tasty.

valmarg


Got to beg to differ here.
They are at least as tasty as spuds and offer a reliable alternative (in that they seldom fail to poduce a crop).

Someone mentioned Winter Savoury - now thats a beautiful plant, adds real depth to stews, roasts, etc. and is underused.
Its funny how we undervalue crops that we can grow here and look to imported stuff.

Look at:

Horseradish
Mustard
Winter Savoury
Sage
Ransoms
Beetroot
Swede
Brussel Sprouts

Now thats exotic!



 
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Froglegs on January 04, 2011, 23:03:56
I was wondering if the ones i've left in the ground have been damaged by all the bad Frost(-11) we had, have not been down the plot since Xmas eve so have not had Chance to cheek on them. ???
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: GodfreyRob on January 05, 2011, 00:09:55
I was wondering if the ones i've left in the ground have been damaged by all the bad Frost(-11) we had, have not been down the plot since Xmas eve so have not had Chance to cheek on them. ???

I would bet they are just fine - they are from north america and our winters are but a cool summer to them - I beleive the pilgrim fathers were saved by them after a hard winter (and the local indians let them into the secret).
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: aquilegia on January 05, 2011, 07:27:12
Jerusalem artichokes would not be a veg I would recommend.  Not very tasty.

valmarg


Really? I love them! They have a nice nutty taste.

But only in small doses!
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: grannyjanny on January 05, 2011, 21:46:09
Can they be any worse than lentils for downwind problems ;) ;D.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: goodlife on January 05, 2011, 22:00:35
Can they be :o...lentils are like little ripple of the surface of the lake..JA's are like monster sunami on ocean :-X..unfortunately ::)
I think JA's are loooovely..yummy.......I just haven't got the courage to start munching yet..ground is only just thawed and now they are ready and available for eating...but the weather is been so nice and calm resently..I would not like to disturb the patern.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: macmac on January 05, 2011, 22:56:09
Beware where you plant them as we've been trying to dig ours OUT for the last few years and we haven't managed yet :(
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: bionear2 on January 05, 2011, 23:36:42
Beware where you plant them as we've been trying to dig ours OUT for the last few years and we haven't managed yet :(

How true, they are very invasive - take your eye off the ball, and your plot can become an artichoke plantation!
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Obelixx on January 06, 2011, 10:02:26
I found my first crop very eeasy to dig out and delicious to eat.  I've had to wait 5 years to find the right rounded variety - as opposed to very lumpy and bumpy - to plant them again and now they're frozen in the ground.   However, I found some nice chunky ones in teh shop yesterday so will eat half and plant half in pots till I can get them in the ground.

Excellent flavour.  Versatile.  Very low carbs and low GI index.   Perfect vegetable.  If you don't usually eat a lot of raw veggies in salads or high fibre fruit and veg, I advise probiotic yoghurt to help digest them more easily and produce less wind.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 06, 2011, 12:32:26
We've had them in three gardens going back to when I was a kid, and they've never spread. The way to get them out is to wait till April, then take them out as they emerge. That way you get the lot.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shirlton on January 06, 2011, 12:53:30
They should be called Fartichokes. Put some in the year before last and got them out last year. We aint very fussy but think I would rather have any other veg.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: okra on January 06, 2011, 17:44:52
An acquired taste but I like them although the rest of the family don't
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: smudger67 on January 06, 2011, 18:33:45
In days of yore they were known as 'Ye olde stinky wind' - read it somewhere and it is true!!!!!! :o
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Flighty on January 06, 2011, 18:39:38
I grow them for the flowers!  :)

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Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: angle shades on January 07, 2011, 17:55:44
 :) try Delia's Carrot and Artichoke soup, fantastic in my opinion ;D/ shades x
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: pigeonseed on January 08, 2011, 20:29:17
We had them stir-fried with our tea and pretended they were water chestnuts! We don't have any wind problems with them, maybe it's a genetic thing! when raw or barely cooked they're milder and less smokey than when boiled.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: lottie lou on January 08, 2011, 20:39:46
What did they taste like stir fried?  Was thinking of using some of the surviving oka in a stir fry as well.  Have you tried them this way and what are they like. 
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: pigeonseed on January 08, 2011, 20:46:23
Yes I have - they both keep their crunch that way. Both taste nice raw, have you tried them raw?

They're quite fresh tasting stir-fried. I sliced the JA very thin, and added a few drops of water so I could cook them long enough to soften them slightly as my OH doesn't like crunchy veg.

In fact he didn't like them anyway, as they were still too crunchy  :)
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: valmarg on January 08, 2011, 21:20:56
Well, the latest (February) Sainsbury's magazine has a St Valentines's Day meal.

Champagne
Best ever Prawn Cocktail

Griddled Lamb chops with mint, capers and shallots

Roast Field mushrooms
ROAST JERUSALEM ARTICHOKE AND LENTIL SALAD ??? ???

How romantic can you get.

Whew, pass the clothes peg. ;D ;D

valmarg
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: lottie lou on January 08, 2011, 21:22:31
bloody blikes, my Oh must be the only vegetarian that only likes his veg out of a tin marked Heinz.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: star on January 09, 2011, 21:02:12
Oh poor Lottie Lou, it is hard to please some innit. At least you get all the good stuff  ;)
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: artichoke on January 10, 2011, 13:59:11
A friend of mine slices them raw with hot fried bacon bits and some salad greenery and dressing - very nice, and no problems.
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: saddad on January 10, 2011, 14:00:53
They go well in a mussel ragout...  :)
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: pumkinlover on January 10, 2011, 14:08:54
Well, the latest (February) Sainsbury's magazine has a St Valentines's Day meal.

Champagne
Best ever Prawn Cocktail

Griddled Lamb chops with mint, capers and shallots

Roast Field mushrooms
ROAST JERUSALEM ARTICHOKE AND LENTIL SALAD ??? ???

How romantic can you get.


Whew, pass the clothes peg. ;D ;D

valmarg



Like spag. bol. no good for a first date!!
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Mark S on January 11, 2011, 19:44:35
I'm on the scrounge here people.

I would love to grow some of these fartichokes. If anyone has some spare tubers, I'd gladly pay the postage etc!!
Title: Re: jerusalem artichokes
Post by: pigeonseed on January 11, 2011, 20:10:18
I've kept a handful back to sow next year - how about I send you two or three, and by the year after they should have multiplied greatly? Pm me your address.
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