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Produce => Non Edible Plants => Topic started by: tim on May 08, 2010, 17:25:12

Title: Same or different?
Post by: tim on May 08, 2010, 17:25:12

And Tree or Shrub?

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: Kea on May 08, 2010, 17:30:34

There is a very subtle difference but just may be that one photo is not as clear as the other. The one in the pot has a little scale at the leaf axil. If the other one doesn't it's different.

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: tim on May 08, 2010, 18:03:21

Any better?

Being different ages doesn't help?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/photo04/general/sample3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/photo04/general/sample2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/photo04/general/sample1.jpg

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: Unwashed on May 08, 2010, 18:07:23

Looks like a cherry to me Tim.

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: campanula on May 09, 2010, 22:06:29

hornbeam?

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: PurpleHeather on May 10, 2010, 08:36:19

I am spending ages walking round trying to identify a tree which is in a pot and a nice shape too, with others growing nearby which are 'known'.

All the 'experts' at the allotments are undecided as well. The common thought seems to be wait until it flowers. If it ever does.

Is the one you have got a fruit bush, a gift from the birds?

My guess is that it is a shrub rather than a tree from the shape of it. But will it be a climber?

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: Kea on May 10, 2010, 08:57:14

Both appear to be the same and like Campanula my first thought was Hornbeam.

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: Unwashed on May 10, 2010, 10:10:12

No, not hornbeam, the stipules are wrong, and see those extrafloral nectaries on the petiole, they're distinctive, and the hornbeam doesn't have them.

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: tim on May 10, 2010, 11:26:19

Logical, Hornbeam, since we have one!

But don't think so?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/photo04/general/hornbeam.jpg

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: Kea on May 10, 2010, 17:38:52

Definitely in the Fagaceae family. A beech would be the other choice, but doesn't look hairy enough.

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: Kea on May 10, 2010, 18:21:11

Could also be a cherry.

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: sarah on May 11, 2010, 12:29:22

I think it looks like a cherry too.

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: amphibian on May 11, 2010, 17:44:11

The extra-floral nectaries are suggestive of a bird cherry to me.

Title: Re: Same or different?
Post by: tim on May 12, 2010, 09:57:44

Some good shots there!

Our 'chap' saw it today & straight off = Cherry.