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Title: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 25, 2010, 06:44:58
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This is a Blue Banana squash growing up canes (in 2006)

I just wanted to show that even heavy squash can be grown in this way and do very well.

Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: saddad on February 25, 2010, 07:20:41
I grew the shark's fin up an old (early learning centre) swing frame.. I'm not sure canes would have taken the weight...  :-\
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 25, 2010, 07:40:48
I grew the shark's fin up an old (early learning centre) swing frame.. I'm not sure canes would have taken the weight...  :-\

How big was the shark's fin?
My canes are attached to metal posts at either end of the row and across the top so they are quite strong.
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: shirlton on February 25, 2010, 07:50:12
Its a thug ask Deb P. She grew it up a tree. I grew it up canes and it smothered everything else. If you walked too slowly past it then it would grab you as well.
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: saddad on February 25, 2010, 08:02:37
I had five heavy fuit from one plant... the largest Basball size and then down to football size...  :)
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: 1066 on February 25, 2010, 08:07:02
I would love to try that and be successful. My pitiful attempts last year produced practically naff all growing up canes. I've got a few of those Wilco's rose arches (thanks Shirlton!) and was going to try a couple on those. But think I may have to stake them into the ground to make sure they stay put. Not sure I'm feeling brave enough to try out 1 of the heavier squash yet.....
Thanks for posting the pic Squash  :)
1066
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: tomatoada on February 25, 2010, 08:07:24
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This is a Blue Banana squash growing up canes (in 2006)

I just wanted to show that even heavy squash can be grown in this way and do very well.

Will the frame be on show at your next open day.  I hope you will not be too busy to have a chat about squashes but I know these dos can get very crowded.
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 25, 2010, 08:46:57
Will the frame be on show at your next open day.  I hope you will not be too busy to have a chat about squashes but I know these dos can get very crowded.

Yes, the frame will be there.   I don't move them because they are fixed quite firmly into the ground.  I dig a trench every year and fill with compost/manure so it doesn't seem to harm them growing in the same place every year.

I'm sure I will have time to talk to you when you come over  :)  I'm getting quite good at delegating now.  ;)
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: shirlton on February 25, 2010, 08:59:08
The ones I grew up the canes last year didn't do very well(apart from Sharks fin). Either someone on here or I read somewhere that squash like to grow on the surface so that they can keep moist and if they want to they can send down roots. Wish I could remember were I got the info from. If it was somone on here then perhaps they will come forward.Needless to say I will be growing on the ground as before. The Wilkies arches are going to be used for runner beans and sweet peas.
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: dtw on February 25, 2010, 09:04:31
Nice idea, but I don't think I'll be trying Dill's Atlantic Giant though.  ;D
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: tomatoada on February 25, 2010, 13:49:56
Will the frame be on show at your next open day.  I hope you will not be too busy to have a chat about squashes but I know these dos can get very crowded.

Yes, the frame will be there.   I don't move them because they are fixed quite firmly into the ground.  I dig a trench every year and fill with compost/manure so it doesn't seem to harm them growing in the same place every year.

I'm sure I will have time to talk to you when you come over  :)  I'm getting quite good at delegating now.  ;)
I don't mind talking to a delegated person.
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: lewic on February 25, 2010, 14:01:04
I've just ordered some blue banana seeds, am wondering whether it would grow up a pergola?

The pergola is made out of 4" square wood, about 6' tall. Do you think this is too thick for it to cling to? Wondering if knocking a few strategic nails into it would give it something to hang on to?

Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 25, 2010, 14:05:57
I put large-mesh netting over the canes but I don't think you could do this on a pergola.  The nails sound like a good idea, maybe with some wire or strong cord fastened between them? You would need to fasten the shoots to it to begin with, then it should cling on by itself.
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: PurpleHeather on February 25, 2010, 14:11:36
Now I know what those huge 52 inch H cup Brassieres they sell on the market come in for.
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 25, 2010, 14:15:13
Now I know what those huge 52 inch H cup Brassieres they sell on the market come in for.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: diamon on February 25, 2010, 14:30:38
wow
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: 1066 on February 25, 2010, 14:43:32
welcome to A4A diamon   :)
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: saddad on February 25, 2010, 14:47:20
Welcome from me too...  :)
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Jayb on February 25, 2010, 15:36:36
Hi from me too diamon  :)
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Jayb on February 25, 2010, 15:44:11
The ones I grew up the canes last year didn't do very well(apart from Sharks fin). Either someone on here or I read somewhere that squash like to grow on the surface so that they can keep moist and if they want to they can send down roots. Wish I could remember were I got the info from. If it was somone on here then perhaps they will come forward.

I remember reading that or something similar, I think the thread had something to do with growing squash over black plastic. A reply being for best results they needed to be in-touch with the ground (as above)  for moisture and food. Was a while ago though...
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: saddad on February 25, 2010, 15:47:56
Many will put out adventitious roots from stems on the ground but don't need to if the main area is getting enough food/water...  :-\
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squashfan on February 25, 2010, 15:52:54
The vine will put down extra roots where it touches the ground, but if you just feed the main root as saddad says there should be no problem.
Can't wait for May/June!!!
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: lottiedolly on February 25, 2010, 15:54:22
goody, as i am growing some of my smaller squash up canes and nets to save on space  :)
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: springs on February 25, 2010, 16:02:16
(http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w337/millgriff/125114.jpg) ;D
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 25, 2010, 16:05:45
I know it seems 'wrong' that they should grow so well up canes etc without the secondary roots having contact with the ground, but for some strange reason, they do!

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This is Tromba d'Albegna which reached the top of the canes and then grew across another support.

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Tromba fruit are long and heavy.



Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: lottiedolly on February 25, 2010, 16:18:11
(http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w337/millgriff/125114.jpg) ;D


Oh now that is just boasting  :P
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Jayb on February 25, 2010, 16:32:02
Wow, are they for real and what are they springs?
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: springs on February 25, 2010, 16:35:05
Yes they are for real  American giant pears gourds
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Jayb on February 25, 2010, 16:43:39
Oh do tell some more, like how heavy and did you grow them in the UK? Are they edible? Excuse my questions but they are just amazin to look at  :)
I love the photo by the way
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 25, 2010, 16:44:20
Springs - the Bangladeshis on our site grow gourds in this way, but they aren't as big as these!  Where was the photo taken?
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Digeroo on February 25, 2010, 17:08:49
I went to Turkey a few years ago and lots of people had squashes dripping down from metal structures over their patios or balconies.

Those American giant pears gourds look amazing how big did they actually get?
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: chriscross1966 on February 25, 2010, 18:52:40
I remember reading that or something similar, I think the thread had something to do with growing squash over black plastic. A reply being for best results they needed to be in-touch with the ground (as above)  for moisture and food. Was a while ago though...

Most of mine grew over black plastic last year and the only ones that didn't do welll were Uchiki Kuri, and they got swamped by the rather rampant Bon-Bon's... one of which put a cople of decent sized fruit opn a chicken-wire fence....

chrisc
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: saddad on February 25, 2010, 19:14:43
My veg spaghetti were miserable on the ground last year, but when I gave them some wire fencing (only 4') to cling onto they did very well... just kept them going horizontal on the canes...  :)
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: GrannieAnnie on February 25, 2010, 21:55:26
Springs- a wonderful picture of you and yours. Did the squash get a hard enough shell to use them as...
turkey houses or something?
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: lewic on February 26, 2010, 18:30:20
Springs - love those mammoth squashes in their knickers!

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I went to Turkey a few years ago and lots of people had squashes dripping down from metal structures over their patios or balconies
Thats what I want to do with mine, though dont fancy a blue banana landing on my head as I'm relaxing in my hammock!
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 26, 2010, 18:43:05
Thats what I want to do with mine, though dont fancy a blue banana landing on my head as I'm relaxing in my hammock!

A couple of years ago my husband decided to store the butternuts on a shelf on the upstairs landing.  He took some upstairs, and balanced them on the banister rail while he got the steps.  I followed him upstairs and a big butternut fell off and landed on my head.  I dropped to my knees on the stairs while my husband carried on talking to me, quite oblivious to the fact that he'd almost caused a butternut to give me concussion!

I can laugh about it now but I wasn't too happy at the time......
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: cornykev on February 26, 2010, 19:04:20
Sorry Betty but the tears are running down my cheeks.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heavy squash growing up canes
Post by: Squash64 on February 26, 2010, 19:33:17
Sorry Betty but the tears are running down my cheeks.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Kev, my husband tells this story now as though it's something to be proud of. You men are weird.  ::)

When the squash cracked me on the head my only thought was how we would explain it to A & E!
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