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Title: Plastic labels.
Post by: Anisemary on February 23, 2010, 22:52:37
Hi, has anyone out there discovered a method of removing writing from plant labels? I know, it's SUPPOSED to be permanent  ::) but I have hundreds of the good thick ones and I'm a Yorkshire lass, don't like waste!  ;)
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Chrispy on February 23, 2010, 22:58:58
Permanent? I write on with a pencil, does not wash off, but when I want to reuse one I just give it a good rub and a rinse and that's it.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: macmac on February 23, 2010, 23:06:52
Hi Anisemary I'm a Yorkshire lass sadly living in Somerset :(
I write in pencil and have some of that silicone foam stuff, magic cleaner works with water you can get it everywhere Wilkos, poundshop etc.just wet and rub I keep a bit down the lottie as it's only water needed it's great.
Where are you in Yorkshire ?I was born in Bridlington
ps I'm not sad really 'just miss Yorkshire
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on February 23, 2010, 23:11:03
If you've used a standard 'permanent' marker, try meths or white spirit.

I use the purple coloured meths, but thats more because of the taste.  8)

Hic.



Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Ninnyscrops. on February 23, 2010, 23:19:38
If you've used a standard 'permanent' marker, try meths or white spirit.

I use the purple coloured meths, but thats more because of the taste.  8)

Hic.

 ;D ;D ;D

I use pencil, a nice heavy HB, and then rub them out   ;)

Ninny


Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Borlotti on February 23, 2010, 23:30:17
I grow the same things every year and don't even have to rewrite them, apart from a few spares if I grow something different.  Sometimes I don't label and get a surprise crop.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Anisemary on February 24, 2010, 00:08:53
Thanks all, guess it's too late for the pencil advice, I've already used a permanent marker!
Will try the purple stuff Pesky, Hmmm.... sure we had some but hubby says he can't find it!!  ;) (think I overdid it allowing him a workshop with a key AND a secret drawer!)
MacMac, I'm in Bradford, although thankfully not in the 'ghost town centre', on the outskirts at the end of a cart track surrounded by fields. Very peaceful, except when the fireworks go off in the distance to announce the arrival of the latest drug delivery!  ::)
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Vinlander on February 24, 2010, 00:12:42
If your old labels are nice thick white plastic like mine then I find the quickest way to clean them is to scrape them with a sharp knife held at 90deg to the label. It also leaves a good matt surface for writing on. Sandpaper works but is much more fiddly.

However I now use the bottom half of 2L milk containers as the last pot for my tomatoes and peppers (they fin neatly into a drip tray). The top half I cut up into plant labels. I reuse them, but when they have a useless name on them I dump them into the recycling and make some more. They won't take pencil - you need a CD felt-tip.

Incidentally, if you want a label that will hold a name for decades then you can make dozens from an aluminium beer can - they will take an imprint on the shiny side with a dead biro nearly as well as copper foil, but a lot cheaper.

Be sure to trim the corners off though, they are really sharp.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: macmac on February 24, 2010, 08:25:26
Anisemary the stuff I mentioned has worked on permenent marker for me  :)
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: shirlton on February 24, 2010, 08:42:10
I put mine in a little jug with some diluted bleach and within a day they come out sparkling.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: 1066 on February 24, 2010, 08:52:35
And to add to the list I use nail varnish remover  ;D . But Shirl's idea using the bleach sounds nice and easy too  :)
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: sunloving on February 24, 2010, 09:22:08
You can make posh copper ones from the inside of tomato puree tubes.

I'm with vinlander and make most of mine from milk bottles.
and lurk around tescos at the end of the season when they sell of the labels for 10p a pack!
x sunloving
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 24, 2010, 09:24:12
I use a bit of fine sandpaper.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Mortality on February 24, 2010, 09:50:06
nail varnish remover.  :P
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: cornykev on February 24, 2010, 14:53:54
I'm not as tight as a Yorkshire person but its bloody close
I scrub mine with a washing up sponge that has a scourer on one side with washing up liquid
I also cut up the milk bottles
And nice to see Borlotti back, for those who don't know shes been on a trek acrosss the Himalayas.
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: elvis2003 on February 24, 2010, 14:57:19
what a great idea with the beer cans,usually one or two kicking round our house....
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on February 24, 2010, 15:24:34
And to add to the list I use nail varnish remover  ;D . But Shirl's idea using the bleach sounds nice and easy too  :)

But I don't like the taste of  nail varnish remover, and as for bleach.. yuck.  :-X

Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: 1066 on February 24, 2010, 16:09:23
And to add to the list I use nail varnish remover  ;D . But Shirl's idea using the bleach sounds nice and easy too  :)

But I don't like the taste of  nail varnish remover, and as for bleach.. yuck.  :-X

Better stick to the beer cans then Pesky!  ;D  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: 1066 on February 24, 2010, 16:15:45

And nice to see Borlotti back, for those who don't know shes been on a trek acrosss the Himalayas.
 ;D ;D ;D

For real ? Cos if so  8)
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: caroline7758 on February 24, 2010, 16:56:32
One of those wire scrubbers works well,too.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Borlotti on February 24, 2010, 17:09:32
Thanks Cornykev, really missed this site as computer out of action.  I thought I went walking in the Dolomites, it was very cold.  Even walked on a frozen lake. Vote for my picture in the competition.  ;D ;D  Think most allotment people are mean, or as I say sensible, don't like wasting money.  Corny go to the 99p shop in Enfield, slug pellets and other gardening things for guess what - 99p.  Oh dear off topic again.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Ian Pearson on February 24, 2010, 17:30:22
Two ways of making labels:
1.Dive a skip, and find a set of those posh wooden venetian blinds - cut up into giant luxury labels, big enough to read from yards away. One set has kept me going for years.
2.Thick plastic strapping used to bind pallet loads. Just snip to length. Its smooth one side, and takes marker well. Obviously not the black type!

Only just off topic!
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: james1 on February 24, 2010, 19:52:39
Try leaving your labels in the sun. because when i write my labels with permanent
marker and shove them in the beds. and someone will come along and say what variety are they ?
ILL go and look and without fail the sun has bleached them.  believe it or not....Honest  :o :o
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 24, 2010, 20:01:40
The same happened to me. CD marker pen lasts better.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Vinlander on February 24, 2010, 21:38:24
That's a point - don't use red ink - the UV bleaches it much faster - even the best ones. Not sure about green but black is best and blue will maybe last a season.

Also I've had bad results using pallet straps for anything - the clear polycarbonate ones are OK but the blue and white fibrous ones can't take the UV.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Anisemary on February 24, 2010, 22:07:03
Phew!! Well, that's given me plenty to experiment with (lest I should become idle)! Aren't gardeners a resourceful bunch of folk!!  :)
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on February 25, 2010, 02:06:39
Pens without UV resistant ink to help reduce fading can become unreadable in a couple of months, especially in direct sunlight.

I find the Staedtler good for bright areas, but the pens dry out quite easily. For general use, I use Sharpies.

I'm also a fan of cut up milk bottles - the contents are good for stomach cramps and ulcers :o
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: powerspade on February 25, 2010, 08:52:22
soak in domestoes
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: shirlton on February 25, 2010, 09:03:16
When I was a young thing I worked in a bookies and we used to have to write all of the results up on a board using permanent pens. We used diluted bleach to clean the boards at the end of the day. Thanks to William Hills for the tip ;D
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: cornykev on February 25, 2010, 20:18:55
Blimey Shirl you've got a good memory.  :o   :-X        :P     ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: PurpleHeather on February 26, 2010, 05:42:11
A couple of years ago a thrifty chap on our allotment site proudly announced to me that he had spent a rainy day in his shed painting his used labels with white gloss.

He had stacked them and was about to show me how wonderfully they had turned out when he realised that they were all firmly stuck together.

I had to walk away with my belly aching with laughter as he diligently got to work with a hammer and and chisel to separate them all.

Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Vinlander on February 28, 2010, 22:30:20
You can make posh copper ones from the inside of tomato puree tubes.

That's a great tip for permanent labels Sunloving.

I pride myself on re-using just about everything but I missed that one!

Much safer than beer can - the high tech alloys in beer cans are quite hard and can make a very sharp edge.

I particularly like writing all over the shiny inside and then folding it inside out to hide the paint and curling the edge, making a double-sided label that will outlast my apple trees (I'm fed up of replacing them too late and having to rack my brains to identify them). It's good to have room for both the name and the pick-before date - I hate over-ripe apples almost as much as over-ripe pears.

The lead-substitute foils on good quality wines are excellent too. Pity I only found out about this now when they are being phased out!

Cheers.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Mortality on February 28, 2010, 22:44:13
You can make posh copper ones from the inside of tomato puree tubes.

Could also use the copper to deter slugs, I read somewhere they don't like it.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on March 01, 2010, 00:26:50
You can make posh copper ones from the inside of tomato puree tubes.

What do you use to cut them with? Surly scissors would blunt too quickly.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Vinlander on March 01, 2010, 21:04:58
You can make posh copper ones from the inside of tomato puree tubes.

What do you use to cut them with? Surly scissors would blunt too quickly.

Nah, they are pretty soft aluminium (sorry slug-haters - they aren't copper - the brassy inner is a coating that scrapes off - probably anodised and varnished).

They aren't hugely harder than lead - they can cut your skin if used roughly but won't scratch a fingernail, which means some of the lignin fibres in cardboard are actually harder.

I wouldn't use your best hairdressing scissors but a kitchen pair will cope easily.

It is a fair point vs.  beer cans though - that aluminium alloy they use is  hard enough to scratch right through a fingernail.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Jeannine on March 01, 2010, 21:36:27
Daft as it sounds, often the pen you wrote with will start the written ink to break down, then while it is wet you can wipe it off. I don't know for how long it works but  it doesn't have to be new,


Best cheap  labels I make  and I say this every year. The slats from and old venetian blind, one old blind from the thrift store will give you enough for a liftime. They cut easily. I prefer aluminum as it is super to write on but the plastic is OK too and if it gets bent it bounces back.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: flytrapman on March 02, 2010, 18:42:14
soak in meths for 5 mins or scrape with a sharp knife, use a pencil next time lasts longer and easier to remove
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: mpdjulie on March 05, 2010, 08:45:23
I've started using white plastic disposable knives!!  They are long enough to get a good depth in the soil and to be able to leave a long enough space visible to write date/variety on them.  Because they are smooth - instead of the slightly rough texture of traditional planting labels - you can write on them with a cd pen and they rub of with an eraser.  Also they are cheap.  I just bought more from Wilkos, 50 for 97p.
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: Digeroo on March 05, 2010, 09:52:06
Quote
I've started using white plastic disposable knives

Mega Brilliant.  I looked at some pukka labels and they were over £1 for only fifteen,
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: kippers garden on March 05, 2010, 11:02:45
Thanks to this thread i've just made some labels out of a plastic milk container and they are wondeful...it will save me buying them again and they only took five mins to make.  Thanks again
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: cacran on March 05, 2010, 11:22:07
I made lots of labels from some plastic blinds that I cut up. I have so many I don't even bother to rub them out, just chuck em.

Hey I'm in Bradford too!

Is it true about the fireworks then??
Title: Re: Plastic labels.
Post by: ipt8 on March 05, 2010, 19:23:45
I love the blinds idea. Put an add on Freecycle and got offered one within four hours :o
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