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Title: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 28, 2009, 22:00:30
Decided to put together this video clip today to summarise how we cleared our allotment plot and the changes over the last 2 seasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew6wyhyg1WE

 ;D
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Unwashed on December 28, 2009, 22:48:23
Wow, that's quite a show-piece you've created, first rate job.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: gwynnethmary on December 28, 2009, 23:23:06
This is why I want an allotment!  Well done- all that hard work has certainly paid off!
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Digeroo on December 28, 2009, 23:47:20
Amazing.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: james1 on December 29, 2009, 04:58:19
All that hard work well done to you. Well deserved winning most improved plot.
great video.......... ::)................................................ ;D
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: gardentg44 on December 29, 2009, 06:11:31
Well done.
one of the best 9 minutes I've spent on here.

its a credit to you. :o
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: betula on December 29, 2009, 07:33:51
A wonderful picture showing all that lottie life has to offer.

An inspiration to all of us.Well done   ;D
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Jeanbean on December 29, 2009, 08:02:13
Well done Sparkly. :) Such encouragement for new plot holders. Shows what can be done with dedication and enthusiasm. Happy planting for 2010. JB
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: tomatoada on December 29, 2009, 08:16:22
Fantastic.
 May I ask in what order you will rotate your crops in the raised beds?  I have 4 10' x 10'.  I am trying to work out a rotation plan to have the best way of having crops follow on from each other.  eg jap. onions after early peas then I get lost.
Also what was the mound at the beginning?  I have one which looks the same.
I hope you will post more pictures.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: lewic on December 29, 2009, 08:17:03
Wow, thats amazing. Well done!
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: SMP1704 on December 29, 2009, 10:11:43
Echoing the other posters - a brilliant plot, well done :)
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 29, 2009, 11:12:41
Fantastic.
 May I ask in what order you will rotate your crops in the raised beds?  I have 4 10' x 10'.  I am trying to work out a rotation plan to have the best way of having crops follow on from each other.  eg jap. onions after early peas then I get lost.
Also what was the mound at the beginning?  I have one which looks the same.
I hope you will post more pictures.

The mound at the beginning was a huge heap of 'compost' that was left by the previous tennant. Apparently over 10 years he had thrown all green material to that end of the plot. It was about 7ft high x 10ft across the width of the plot. This was why we had to put the path in first as this mound just sloped very steeply onto the plot so walking across it in winter was an accident waiting to happen. It has couch grass and bindweed, plus a few other things growing in the top of it. The roots were actually quite easy to get out as the heap was not compacted at all so we pulled them out and sieved the 'compost' and used this to fill the raised beds. It did seem like a nightmare in first, but really it was a blessing in disguise. We did find a few things in there like some ladies shoes and a full pane of glass (put the spade through that one and then had to pull out all the pieces!)

The photo at the beginning also shows what looks like a mass of bindweed. This bindweed was growing over brambles, apple trees and, what I think were, self-set birch trees! There was one in their that was about 3 or 4 inches in diameter! The previous tennant had grown fruits on the whole plot, mainly brambles and blackcurrants. He had apparently planted them so close that he couldn't get in to harvest them and so just let them go wild. He was also an ex-police officer who refused to listen to anyone and who the committee would not stand up to. He had 3 plots that were a complete mess and stayed like this for many years.

When we were offered the plot it had been refused by many on the list and the previous 2 tennants had made vague attempts to clear it and then gave up.

I was at the plot on my own when our secretary approached me about it. I had a quick look and quickly signed on the dotted line. I know it looked horrendous, but we are young enough to deal with the hardwork. I came home and told Ant about getting the plot and he said "that great, which one is it?". I told him it was a bit overgrown and the one in the far corner of the plot. We went down to the plot and he looked like he was going to have a heart attack LOL.

I hope the pictures do inspire new allotment holders because, although it is hardwork it can be done.

My advice to to get all the roots out and don't take short-cuts and you will get there in the end!

In terms of rotation - potato (onion), roots, legumes, brassicas is what we are going for. We have decided that some our of beds are a bit small and are going to replace some of these at the top end of the plot with larger beds.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Digeroo on December 29, 2009, 11:25:15
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When we were offered the plot it had been refused by many on the list and the previous 2 tennants had made vague attempts to clear it and then gave up

I think that you are something of an inspiration.  What you have not said is how many hours per week you had to give to the work.  The bindweed sounds a nightmare hope you managed to kill it, but presume it might creep back from the edges.


Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: tomatoada on December 29, 2009, 11:29:53
Thanks for such a detailed reply.  My mound is at the far end of the plot so not so bad as yours at the top.The description of unsafe, rubbish etc combined with "compost" and weeds sounds about the same.   I plan to tackle it next year.  Weed killer first.  My 4th year on my plot.
Re rotation.  Are you going to grow potatoes in raised beds?  
Thanks again for for reply.  
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 29, 2009, 11:45:53
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When we were offered the plot it had been refused by many on the list and the previous 2 tennants had made vague attempts to clear it and then gave up

I think that you are something of an inspiration.  What you have not said is how many hours per week you had to give to the work.  The bindweed sounds a nightmare hope you managed to kill it, but presume it might creep back from the edges.




In terms of time over the winter period we spend between 4-10 hours at the plot at the weekends. This was most weekends, but not all.  We both work fulltime and it is dark by the time we are home so our time is limited by this. During the summer we probably spend up to 12-14 hours at the weekend and do visit during the week occassionally for harvesting in the evenings. I do have the benefit of being a teacher so that means I do spend the holidays at the plot. I do go down most days when I am off, but this is often only for an hour or 2.

The bindweed has been much better than we expected. The other plots around us are clear so our plot was the actual source. The plot around the back of the shed does have bindweed, but we have slabbed around that area so that should help keep it back. We have had the odd bit of bindweed come up on the plot, but we have just dug it out. If it comes up on the path I used weedkiller on it (painted on). This season there was hardly any so we must be getting there.

We grew jersey royals successfully in the raised beds, but they are quite small plants. Not sure about larger varieties.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Alimo on December 29, 2009, 11:47:40
Thank you for that - lovely pictures and amazing final result!!!

Alison
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: phlips66 on December 29, 2009, 11:54:10
what an exellent video you deserved a win after all that effort
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: lorna on December 29, 2009, 12:03:58
Great video. Thank you for sharing. Well done and what results for all your hard work.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Digeroo on December 29, 2009, 12:16:50
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I do have the benefit of being a teacher so that means I do spend the holidays at the plot.

My sister in law was a teacher and loved getting away from it all by gardening.  She especially liked planting things in neat rows and finding they stayed where you put them.

Cheaper than a 'gym'.

Soil nice and black.  Our allotment is very pale brown.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: small on December 29, 2009, 12:35:41
Thank you for posting this. You did a wonderful job, it's just the inspiration needed at this time of year!
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 29, 2009, 12:43:52
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I do have the benefit of being a teacher so that means I do spend the holidays at the plot.

My sister in law was a teacher and loved getting away from it all by gardening.  She especially liked planting things in neat rows and finding they stayed where you put them.

Cheaper than a 'gym'.

Soil nice and black.  Our allotment is very pale brown.

LOL! There are alot of similarities with gardening and teaching. Both unpredictable and hardwork hehe

The soil is great on our site.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: chriscross1966 on December 29, 2009, 12:57:05
I like the trick with the climbing beans protection.... might habve to steal that idea :D.... How did you get on with the butter beans?... I'm going to try them for the first time this coming year, both stadnard Lima and the outsize Giganda types (got a taste for growing shelling beans this year with some Borlottis which were excellent, I just wish I'd planted more....

chrisc
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 29, 2009, 13:11:03
Giganda types

These are what we grew. Got a good crop really, although we were advised that due to their size they are tricky to dry so we froze most of them. Ideally we would have left them to dry on the plant like we did with the bolotti, but since they have such a long growing season they were still growing when frosts were forecast. I gave up and harvested, hence the freezing. They are beautiful though! From 1 wigwam (8 plants) can't remember the weight, but it was easily enough for 40/50 single meals.

Planting early did seem to make a difference as last year the yield was alot smaller.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: greensausage on December 29, 2009, 13:14:06
Love the video - great looking plot after all your hard work - thank you for sharing
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Digeroo on December 29, 2009, 13:21:08
I also like the look of your bean protection.  I have also had some success with putting cling film round the whole wigwam.  You then just cut it off when you are tired of it.

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borlotti - due to their size they are tricky to dry
  I put quite big beans on the radiator or the window sill still in their pods.  Was very cautious to start with but have done germination tests and they all pop up fine. 
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: emmy1978 on December 29, 2009, 13:24:02
Wow Sparkly-that's fantastic-so inspiring! I see you are a pumpkin carver after my own heart! Was the face Jack Nicholson in the Shining?
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 29, 2009, 13:53:17
  I put quite big beans on the radiator or the window sill still in their pods.  Was very cautious to start with but have done germination tests and they all pop up fine. 
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I did manage to save some as a few pods had started to dry out, but so many were still green.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 29, 2009, 13:54:01
Wow Sparkly-that's fantastic-so inspiring! I see you are a pumpkin carver after my own heart! Was the face Jack Nicholson in the Shining?

Hehe well done. Ant did the Jack Nicholson carving, not me.
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: emmy1978 on December 29, 2009, 17:12:58
Well, it's ace. OH just said -I'm trying that one next year!!!
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: manicscousers on December 29, 2009, 17:33:21
brilliant, sparkly, looking forward to seeing it first hand next year
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: caroline7758 on December 29, 2009, 19:06:35
Very impressive- an inspiration to newbies and oldies alike!
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: flitwickone on December 29, 2009, 19:31:54
superb well done
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: blackcountrysteve on December 29, 2009, 21:29:50
excellent footage....something we can all aspire to try and achieve
well done
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: SMP1704 on December 30, 2009, 09:54:41
Sparkly, you have inspired me to do something similar with my four years worth of lottie photos.  How did you create it - powerpoint?  Go on, share your secrets............. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: reddyreddy on December 30, 2009, 10:12:42
wow, very inspirational. note to self - must take more photos!!
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 30, 2009, 10:52:48
Sparkly, you have inspired me to do something similar with my four years worth of lottie photos.  How did you create it - powerpoint?  Go on, share your secrets............. ;D ;D ;D

I used moviemaker. Very easy to add in either video/photo elements and add titles.  ;D
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sparkly on December 30, 2009, 10:54:32
wow, very inspirational. note to self - must take more photos!!

Definately take alot of photos. We have been doing a 'monthy' (well nearly monthly) update on our youtube channel and it is really good to have a look through past episodes!
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Duke Ellington on December 30, 2009, 12:30:50
Well done Sparkly!! you have a lovely looking plot.

Duke :)
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: cornykev on December 30, 2009, 16:39:17
Top banana Sparkly.    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: tonybloke on January 01, 2010, 14:22:21
well done sparkly and ant!! ;)
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: star on January 04, 2010, 23:17:19
Thank you for sharing your lovely plot with us all. You've both done wonders, all the hard work is certainly worthwhile. Well done guys  ;D
Title: Re: A video to show how we cultivated a neglected plot over 2 seasons
Post by: Sinbad7 on January 05, 2010, 00:18:05
On a cold winters evening that was a sheer joy to watch Sparkly.

Well done, all that hard work paid off handsomely, what a credit to you.

I could just imagine what it feels like being down on my plot (now) watching your video, not that mine looks anything like yours but I can strive to achieve in 2010 oh, and dream ;D.

Sinbad
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