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Title: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: DavidW on December 15, 2009, 20:43:20
Hi, I'm planning to build a small wind turbine for use on the plot. The turbine is planned to charge an old car batterry for shed lights, radio etc. Anyone carried out a similar project?

Thanks
David
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: chriscross1966 on December 16, 2009, 02:31:34
I'd suggest a Savonius design as it's simpler to build, aesthetically less intrusive (and TBF safer)... it's not like you need epic amounts of charge unless you plan on running LED growlights and DC soil-warming cables from it.....

http://www.reuk.co.uk/Build-a-Savonius-Wind-Turbine.htm (http://www.reuk.co.uk/Build-a-Savonius-Wind-Turbine.htm)

I'd thought about it but it has become obvious that our site is going through a spate of problems with our neighbours from an official traveller camp and though the turbine would probably be ok the battery wouldn't.... annoying as apparently it's been the thick end of a decade since there was a problem, but we've lost several builders wheelbarrows, a crop of pumpkins and various tools recently.... I'm having to rethink plans for irrigating a proposed polytunnel I'd like to put up.....can'#t risk having the electrical kit on site to pump water.....

chrisc
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on December 16, 2009, 06:50:04
I've thought about it for a long time, does that count?   ;)

At the moment I'm using 2 of these in parallel:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=98358&C=MS&U=Storage

Not so good in the depths of winter, but ok for most of the year.  :)
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: chriscross1966 on December 16, 2009, 09:51:08
I've thought about it for a long time, does that count?   ;)

At the moment I'm using 2 of these in parallel:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=98358&C=MS&U=Storage

Not so good in the depths of winter, but ok for most of the year.  :)

Hmm... they're really meant as battery charge maintainers on cars and caravans that go a long time between having a proper charger plugged in .... one of these http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=96861 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=96861) would be a better bet.....

I use a pair of 15W panels on my camper when I'm doing festivals where I won't be able to run a mains  feed over from the gig....

chrisc
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: Unwashed on December 16, 2009, 12:41:46
I think it's a neat idea, especially if you can build it from scap.

I thought seriously about how to boil a kettle on the allotment.  A gas burner is the obvious answer because it's so cheap but I wanted to do it carbon-neutral if possible so I looked at solar and wind, though a wood-burner is much cheaper and still carbon neutral.

Combining solar and wind isn't a bad idea because solar does better in the summer, and wind in the winter.  There's also a trade-off between generating capacity and storage capacity - at one extreme a big battery bank charged up in the summer can get you through the winter on a modest solar array,  and at the other extreme an enormous solar array will generate enough capacity even in the middle of winter for you to get by with little storage capacity, and if you know the cost of panels and betteries you can work out the cheapest combination for your demand.

Boiling a kettle on solar is particularly expensive because the kettle takes an awful lot of current all in one go.  24V kettles are possible, but take a lot longer to boil than a domestic kettle, and big inverters are expensive and not very efficient.

I'd think seriously about a tilly lamp.
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: chriscross1966 on December 16, 2009, 13:31:23
I think the wind turbine idea is probably the best.... it isn't hard to build a Savonius that will kick out a near continuous 20 watts or so, and of course generally the winter is breezier than the summer and it's winter when you need the juice.... if it was really about boiling up a kettle I'd suggest burning something rather than electric anything.... LED's for lighting and if you're lucky you could have a system that would allow a signficant amount of LED grow-lighting if you build a slightly bigger turbine....

chrisc
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: tonybloke on December 16, 2009, 14:59:04
for 'off-grid' boiling water, you can't beat one of these!! https://kellykettle.com/?gclid=COGF7eGb254CFU0A4wod1nXaIQ
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: InfraDig on December 16, 2009, 16:59:35
FC is bringing me one of those. (How sad is that!?)
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: tonybloke on December 16, 2009, 17:46:43
FC is bringing me one of those. (How sad is that!?)

Lucky you!!
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: Amazingrotavator(Derby) on December 16, 2009, 17:59:30
I bought a generator. Alot more simple.
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: tonybloke on December 16, 2009, 18:03:43
I bought a generator. Alot more simple.
since when has refining petroleum been simpler than cutting a few sticks? ;)
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: Unwashed on December 16, 2009, 19:03:39
The Kelly Kettle is quite amazing.  A couple of sheets of newspaper will boil enough water for a brew in minutes.
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: lewic on December 16, 2009, 19:26:52
Kelly/Storm kettles are great but you wouldnt want to light it in your shed as they kick up a load of smoke!
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: Unwashed on December 16, 2009, 19:32:57
depends on your shed!
(http://www.emilyware.co.uk/wcas/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/site_views_2/simons_shed_5/shed_1_20091216_2047785074.jpg)
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: Jayb on December 16, 2009, 19:50:28
depends on your shed!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: dtw on December 16, 2009, 20:45:36
I vaguely remember reading somewhere of somebody using an old sky dish covered in aluminium foil. Mount the kettle at the focal point where the LNB is. I think it generates 1kW on a sunny day.
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: Plot69 on December 19, 2009, 10:13:31
I've got one of these for my floating shed on the river. Bit overkill on an allotment though.


(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.boom/tbc/Photos_files/Media/IMG_1340/IMG_1340.jpg?)
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: PurpleHeather on December 21, 2009, 23:47:21
I have read this lot and am shaking my head and saying.

'Some one is seriously short of something to do'

Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: chriscross1966 on December 22, 2009, 00:04:38
I have read this lot and am shaking my head and saying.

'Some one is seriously short of something to do'



Boys and their toys I think.... we can't help ourselves.....
Title: Re: Wind Turbine on the Allotment
Post by: Plot69 on December 22, 2009, 05:21:48
'Some one is seriously short of something to do'



Well don't look t me, I'm seriously short of something not to do.

Thank God for Sky+HD, otherwise I'd miss everything...  ::)
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