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General => The Shed => Topic started by: jimtheworzel on October 21, 2009, 22:51:32
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i all ways watch bbc q time.but not this week.
British National Party leader Nick Griffin will be allowed to appear on Question Time on Thursday night.
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We always watch it too. I will be watching it tomorrow as I like to hear what everybody has to say. It probably won't be anything like people are expecting it to be, lol.
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We will watch it because I want to hear from his own mouth what I've been reading about >:(
I try to teach my grandchildren there are only two kinds of people-Good people and Bad people.It doesn't matter race,religion,sexuality or the way they grow sprouts. I did think giving this guy a platform was a bad thing but hopefully people will judge for themselves-B.N.P -BLOODY NASTY PEOPLE
oops Iv'e always promised myself I wouldn't get political it's your fault Jimtheworzel for starting this thread
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macmac if thats what you think, then a mod will put an end to it
in my mind this is a man hell bent on stirring up sh@t
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Will be interesting to see what questions will be asked, and the audience's reaction to him.
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Will be interesting to see what questions will be asked, and the audience's reaction to him.
lots of boos!!
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Will be interesting to see what questions will be asked, and the audience's reaction to him.
lots of boos!!
You bet !!!
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We will watch it because I want to hear from his own mouth what I've been reading about >:(
Nick Griffin lives just a few miles away from me he acts & talks like a politician which is bad enough the people he associates with (presumably supporters of the BNP) are very unpleasant & IMHO people like that should not get any say in how this country is run. I should be able to walk down the street with my wife without a bunch of idiots threatening me with baseball bats or machetes because they consider my wifes skin to be the wrong colour. If the BNP ever gets voted into power I think I'll end up emigrating.
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if any politician gets elected it always the party that has lost fault for messing up the country that get the opposition elected. those you degrade may just become, those who become your new overloads.
the real question would bnp be any worse at messing up the Uk then labor, new labor, or the conserative party have been.
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I am going to hear what he has to say and then decide. I don't know anything about the party so will be listening to find out just what the party stand for without just going by hearsay.
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If the BNP ever gets voted into power I think I'll end up emigrating.
Heaven forbid it should ever come to that but I hope the rest of the world is more sympathetic than it was in the 30's...
I won't be watching.
:-X
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This country has always defended free speech & I beleive in listening & learning & making up my own mind without the press telling me what to do.
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From what I hear the BBC`s reasoning is that the BNP is a legitimate political party with two European seats.
That`s true---but if a load of people who cannot be bothered to vote in elections made the effort then perhaps they would not have any seats??
All the shouting and booing counts for little if the chance to vote them out is ignored.
It`s something I am a bit passionate about
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Good point about the voting (or lack of) Cleo! You just need to look across the channel to see what nearly happened with Le Penn :-X
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This country has always defended free speech & I beleive in listening & learning & making up my own mind without the press telling me what to do.
I suggest rather, that a very small minority of free thinkers in this country have throughout history stood up to oppression, watched with disapproval by a reactionary public who are unbearably uncomfortable with any challenge to established dogma.
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All views of an argument need to be heard before making a decision.
You should all watch and then decide.
Maybe we shouldn't listen to the conservatives because they are a bunch of slimy toffs.
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Who are British nationals anyway? Immigration has been going on a very long time! I agree that you should view all sides of an argument, but my issue with the BNP is that the policies they advertise are the thin end of a wedge. I guess it is similar with any party. They only say what people want to hear. We all know that whoever gets in power will not do exactly what they have promised so the underlying principles are the most important thing. People want easy answers to complicated questions.
I watched a program called 'BNP wives' a week or so ago. It was pretty shocking.
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the guy is an immature cretin. No man of the world with an ounce of compassion could hold such views. Simple facts.
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I think their end is near. It would be great if so many ethnic minorities joined the BNP and then re-wrote the policies.
Here is an extract from a website I found. I have put a reference to it below but please note that it contains some awful language by a BNP member. Perhaps a moderator could move this to the Watershed.
The BNP will be forced to admit black and Asian members after a legal victory for the Government's Equality and Human Rights Commission which will end the party's “white only” policy.
In a court order issued today, the party agreed to amend its constitution to ensure that its membership rules no longer discriminate on grounds of race, religion or any other “protected characteristic” specified under equality legislation.
The commitment means the party, which previously allowed only “indigenous Caucasians” and those from connected ethnic groups to become members, will now be required to admit any person who wishes to join its ranks. The policy change was announced today at the Central London county court after the BNP decided to admit defeat in a legal battle with the Equality and Human Rights Commission over its membership rules.
The extract above is from:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114674571886
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I think their end is near.
Ican only see their support increase (unfortunately). They are giving people (uneducated) 'solutions' to their problems.
I also can't see many ethinic minority people joining the BNP to make this point. I couldn't see their reception being very welcome. How do you think they will be treated unofficially?
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Free speech is important to me. I think this guys appearance is overdue. I want to make up my own mind.
I have my own ideas of what I think is involved with Britishness and being racist, intolerant or prejudiced is not included.
I think the majority should be clear about what we expect of all our citizens, so that all people who live here know what is expected of them.
I hope that the audience do not jeer and boo. I will get ready to press the ignore button in my brain.
But I do believe that we need to make sure that there are jobs available for people who are already here rather than bringing in more and more people or selling our industry who then create the jobs elsewhere.
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Here is an extract from a website I found. I have put a reference to it below but please note that it contains some awful language by a BNP member. Perhaps a moderator could move this to the Watershed.
Pauline, it'll be ok to leave it here, you've given a warning and I feel that is sufficient :) Hopefully everyone will play nicely and there will be no need to move/intervene :)
I have to admit that I also want to watch this evening to see just how the audience reacts and what Mr Griffin's responses will be to very ordinary questions that get asked on this show.
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send them all back--
Is anyone not descended from them left??
This post has been modified so as not to offend
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Guess I spoke too soon.
Cleo to avoid this thread being taken away, kindly revise your post to remove words which others will find offending. >:(
I'd do it myself but have yet to receive that ability!
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I`d rather you did that--I merely used the words of racsts. Not my own views.
I`m sorry if they give offense
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It is not your decision to have the thread removed. Members were having a perfectly civil discussion and now you have spoilt it with the needless use of offensive words. I urge you to check the A4A rules as it is clearly states these words are not acceptable and again I ask you kindly to remove them and show consideration to fellow board members.
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Thank you.
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But I do believe that we need to make sure that there are jobs available for people who are already here rather than bringing in more and more people or selling our industry who then create the jobs elsewhere.
Now I agree with this. We all know that there is a general shortage of jobs and some people are struggling to find work, despite trying their hardest to get a job. On the other side of the coin there are plenty of people who are not working because they do not want to do certain jobs. If non-british people want to do these jobs then I don't see the problem. Either that or make the british people do them by having a tighter regulation on benefits.
I work with 16-19 year olds and many of them have very unrealistic opinions of what is a "good job" and a "decent wage". Apparently 18k is a rubbish wage! Some of them think that teachers get money like 50k! Many of the students will end up on a degree from a low-ranked university and will be in a field for 'graduate' jobs offering wages such as 12k if they are lucky.
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If our government had put in place much stricter controls on Immigration I don't think all this hoo ha would be going on.
In my opinion our country has become a magnet to all.Many people are sick of it and the government know that.
The PC brigade have made it that even if you talk about the problems to do with immigration you are branded a racist.That is why we have had this softly softly approach and as such the government and the main parties fear the BNP.
I will watch the programme but I would never vote for BNP.Look at Hitler's Germany to see what the future would be if they gained power.
If we had much better immigration control hardly anyone would give this party a second thought.
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For those waiting to hear and make their own minds up, some things definately won't be mentioned on QT, he's not stupid and will be saying things to appeal to the masses, talking of hitlers Germany he won't mention that he denies the holocaust ever happened, 6 millions jews did not die according to him, he meets with and supports the Klu Klux Klan who, if anyone has forgotten, hanged black people in public. No doubt he'll forget to mention those things. He has been convicted of inciting racial hatred so should he even be allowed to be a politician in the same way an arsonist shouldn't be in the fire service or a convicted tax evader work in the inland revenue.
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Unfortunately those offending words are only too popular in this area.
I live 5 minutes walk away from where the BNP held their festival this year and it really is upsetting to have such people on your doorstep.I really hope that if they must have a rally then let it be elsewhere next time.
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This post has been modified so as not to offend
Cleo, I can't imagine a reasonable person taking offense to anything you've written, if they read it within context.
(And yes, I did read the original unedited post).
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Cleo, I can't imagine a reasonable person taking offense to anything you've written, if they read it within context.
Thank you so much--I have revised my post following advice from those who moderate this site and I`m truly sorry if anything I said cased offense--but those terms are used.
Best I stuck to banning Moneymaker in future?? ;D
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Cleo,
maybe you should have used those words in a "quote" instead of making it look like you had written them.
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Yes -I accept that.
And once again I apologise if I broke the house rules.
In my defense I was just trying to point out the nonsense of racists views--I just did it badly. :-[
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I speak to Indians in the local shop, Chinese in the takeaway, Italians, Portugese at the allotment, Greeks next door, all very nice people but they are all complaining to me about too many foreigners coming into this country. I think they can be quite racist, me I just keep quiet. All this fuss about question time, on here and on the radio will make more people watch it, which I suppose we should and be more informed as must admit I am quite ignorant about politics, more interested who is the father of Heather's baby in Eastenders which I expect a lot of people will also watch.
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But I do believe that we need to make sure that there are jobs available for people who are already here rather than bringing in more and more people or selling our industry who then create the jobs elsewhere.
The BNP's views on immigration are clearly outlined in their constitution. Wether someone would be able to live & work here would be detemined by their country of origin & the colour of their skin.
http://bnp.org.uk/Constitution.doc
(b) The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples. It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly white make up of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948.
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I won't be watching it - I don't have a telly :D
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I have apologised to Cleo via PM for what might have seemed like overreating or heavy handedness (is that even a word?!) but after I saw said words, I wanted to jump in and have them removed before another full scale, ten page war broke out. They were not Cleo's words so speak and I realise that but again, the words themselves - not nice :) Thanks :)
Have just been discussing the Question Time debacle with my sister and she says she's very cross with the BBC for making it seem like such a coup that they've got Griffin, instead of making it about politics.
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I have apologised to Cleo via PM for what might have seemed like overreating or heavy handedness
And I accepted that apology. An apology via a pm was enough--to post it shows a character due great respect.
Thank you
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... reversing the tide of non-white immigration ...
Are they ok with Poles and Russians then ?
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I won't be watching it - I don't have a telly
snap... ;D
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I won't be watching it - I don't have a telly
snap... ;D
I was thinking of maybe having a silent vigil - I bought a copy of Desmond Tutu's Rabble Rouser for Peace book, and have got about a third of the way through and would like to finish it, and thought it appropriate reading for tonight! ;D fascinating read so far BTW
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... reversing the tide of non-white immigration ...
Are they ok with Poles and Russians then ?
And what about me? My great great great grandparents were French Huguenots!
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If I may jump in with my own thoughts. . . .
The BNP stand for things that i do not agree with.
I also, however, do not agree with things that other parties stand for. I show my support (or lack thereof) by using my ability to vote.
Unfortunately, apathy has / had taken a hold of this country to the point whereby minority views are rewarded with power.
Let them have their say (on QT) the viewer can make up their own mind, and having listened to them will perhaps be more informed in doing so. QT has had "controversial" guests on in the past, and it has gone pretty much how we all expect it to go tonight.
What we need to do is ensure that, through the power of our own vote, that such views (as held by parties like BNP) are extinguished, i.e. vote them out.
I for one, will be watching!
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I'll be watching it out of curiosity, I expect the booing and jeering will be very entertaining!
I despise the BNP but sadly our government is handing them votes on a plate, with the invasion of Iraq and Afganistan, funding of faith schools which promote gender inequality, and introduction of laws which ban people from criticising religion.
And with Tony Blair shortly to become EU president and his buddy Rowan Williams promoting Sharia law, I can see that the BNP (or a slightly watered down version of) will be in power within the next 10 years or so.
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, I can see that the BNP (or a slightly watered down version of) will be in power within the next 10 years or so.
and if that happens, I, for one, will leave the country for good.
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All this tosh about foreigners taking 'our' jobs is simplistic to the point of moronic. Take a walk down to your local job centre and tell me if you see beer swilling, drug addled white youths claiming rather that applying themselves to something useful. If you offered them a bin man's job they'd simply turn it down. As far as I see there is a generation growing up fearing work or avoiding it (this includes some members of my family). That is nothing to do with hard working people coming to this country to make a living. I'd hate to take up the challenge of working in another country and for people to demonise me for no real reason.
To me the politics of race and the BNP is the politics of fear - demonise some poor people or other to explain the world's ills. Funny how they grow in popularity when the unemplyment total rises isnt it? Take a look in Northern Ireland - the reality is rising sectarian clashes since the onset of the recession. Blaming others for our woes anyone?
Love and peace guys.
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Good post Psi. To paraphrase Jimmy Carr...
Someone comes here from a foreign country. He leaves his family and friends behind. He can't speak the language. He doesn't understand the culture. He has to arrange accommodation, find work and begin a whole new life without any support. And he manages to take your job. How nuts are you?!
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oh and I am not saying her shouldnt be on QT either, just that he is a moron. My worry is that he won't be humiliated on QT because its the wrong vehicle for him to be humiliated. For example:
Question 1: where do the respective parties stand on immigration:
Jack Straw: we're against free immigration and will take a tough stance.
Tory: we're against free immigration and will take a tough stance.
Liberal: we're against free immigration and will take a tough stance.
Nick Griffin: we're against free immigration and will take a tough stance.
what will he say that is different on that issue? not alot?
Then they'll get onto war in Iraq/Afghanistan and clearly he'll be the only one who will say it's an illegal war, wrong, our boys should come home. guess what? Some of that is correct. He'll be popular with that one.
My worry is I dont see how the panel can humilate him within the parameters of QT.
Getting him on Newsnight or another magazine show would be better - free thinking people with no party affiliation could tear the guy apart and make him look the twerp he is.
So, my worry is that he will emerge from QT with (in some people's eyes) some credit which his views do not warrant.
He's just a sad, angry, limited and blinkered guy in my opinion. The sad thing is that he's not alone! His idea of Britishness is nothing to do with mine and I hate the idea that his @britishness' is the only one up for grabs. To me Britishness is very much it's multiculturalism, liberalism, sense of adventure, opennness, hard work, fun....not hate, anything but hate!
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Good post Psi. To paraphrase Jimmy Carr...
Someone comes here from a foreign country. He leaves his family and friends behind. He can't speak the language. He doesn't understand the culture. He has to arrange accommodation, find work and begin a whole new life without any support. And he manages to take your job. How nuts are you?!
top quote. In Britain we never consider working abroad so its seen as something others do over here! It's very odd!
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Good post Psi. To paraphrase Jimmy Carr...
Someone comes here from a foreign country. He leaves his family and friends behind. He can't speak the language. He doesn't understand the culture. He has to arrange accommodation, find work and begin a whole new life without any support. And he manages to take your job. How nuts are you?!
top quote. In Britain we never consider working abroad so its seen as something others do over here! It's very odd!
Strange, I didn't say "nuts" I said a different word for poo! Should've said s**t to keep the swearbot happy!
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I wonder if Mr Griffin will be quoting the Squirrels Tale ?
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,28007.msg276004.html#msg276004
In Britain we never consider working abroad so its seen as something others do over here! It's very odd!
I work abroard - quite alot actually.
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psi, you have swear words deleted from your view, you can change this sop you see posts unaltered, can't remember how, somewhere in your settings.
Good post Psi. To paraphrase Jimmy Carr...
Someone comes here from a foreign country. He leaves his family and friends behind. He can't speak the language. He doesn't understand the culture. He has to arrange accommodation, find work and begin a whole new life without any support. And he manages to take your job. How nuts are you?!
top quote. In Britain we never consider working abroad so its seen as something others do over here! It's very odd!
Strange, I didn't say "nuts" I said a different word for poo! Should've said s**t to keep the swearbot happy!
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BNP membership for only:
"The indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of "Indigenous Caucasian" consist of members of: i) The Anglo-Saxon Folk Community; ii) The Celtic Scottish Folk Community; iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community; iv) The Celtic Welsh Folk Community; v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community; vi) The Celtish Cornish Folk Community; vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community; viii) The Celtic-Norse Folk Community; ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community; x) The Anglo-Saxon-Indigenous European Folk Community; xi) Members of these ethnic groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them."
all of who were immigrants at some point really. I cant think many of these exist these day! Loonies!
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I'm Celtic Welsh. I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member...
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Did anyone listen to the discussion on this topic on the Alan Titmarsh program this afternoon? I thought Trish Goddard was good saying that a DNA test would be interesting.
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Two comments.
On another forum, somone who is totally fed up of 'bloody immigrants' explained that it was because of them that he moved to Australia in the first place. That with no self-awareness at all!
An aussie comedian whose name eludes me
'So they're all coming over here taking all our jobs are they? Fine! There's the fork-lift. Knock yourself out son. I'll be at home drinking beer.'
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On the subject of emigrating to Australia. My Aunt aged 76 wanted to go and live in Perth where her 3 children had gone to live 15 years previously. She had to pay the Australian government £11,000, before she could go there and have enough funds in case she got ill.
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Shirl 2 of my Great nephews met and married 2 Australian girls about 16 years ago (when they were all roller skating champions.) They have lived in Australia for some 14 years and between them have 4 sons. My Nephew and wife are going out there to live as all their family are now settled there. My nephew has had to prove he has sufficient money and he and his wife have very recently gone through vigorous medicals (costing a lot of money). Maybe we should follow some of the Australian Government's rules.
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We should copy Australia if we had a problem with immigration, but we don't so we shouldn't. Australian politicians need to pander to the same hysteria that is trotted out over here about immigrants taking (whatever, jobs, houses, health services... same drivel as here).
All immigrants to the UK are either running away from some kind of hell hole that the West has invariably caused or profited from (so we have a duty to welcome them) or they're coming to contribute to the economy by working (so we'd be idiots not to want them here).
Maybe a tougher line on immigration would remove the BNP vote but it will do nothing to improve the quality of life of any "indigenous" brits!
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The BNP were elected by a democratic process and if they are to be quashed it should be via the democratic process too. Open debate is part of that process so they can argue they have a right to be on the programme.
The problem is that they are not going to say "we will kick you out if you are a mud blood" and "aren't the Nazi's a nice bunch of chaps", far from it, they will paint a rosy image which will only benefit them - a bit like all political parties really.
Good press or bad press the BNP will only benefit from all this publicity which in my opinion is a bad thing.
I will be watching, it should be spicy!
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We have been discussing this as a family and will be watching together as I feel it is important for my 15 year old daughter to understand what these people stand for. Unfortunately I don't think Griffin will show the real BNP.
Strangely I agree with what Rio Ferdinand (?) said today, that Griffin should be allowed onto QT as we are a democary and that it is the job of the others on the panel to expose him tonight - lets hope they do.
Lushy x
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ITS past my bedtime, some of us do have to get up early, I'll tape it and watch it on my Samsung tomorrow, did I tell you I had a new Samsung. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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We will watch it because I want to hear from his own mouth what I've been reading about >:(
Nick Griffin lives just a few miles away from me he acts & talks like a politician which is bad enough the people he associates with (presumably supporters of the BNP) are very unpleasant & IMHO people like that should not get any say in how this country is run. I should be able to walk down the street with my wife without a bunch of idiots threatening me with baseball bats or machetes because they consider my wifes skin to be the wrong colour. If the BNP ever gets voted into power I think I'll end up emigrating.
I think (at least I would like to think) that I would stay behind, go underground and take up arms to fight in the resulting civil war.
This country has always defended free speech & I beleive in listening & learning & making up my own mind without the press telling me what to do.
You are still to make up your mind are you? :-X
This country has always defended free speech & I beleive in listening & learning & making up my own mind without the press telling me what to do.
I suggest rather, that a very small minority of free thinkers in this country have throughout history stood up to oppression, watched with disapproval by a reactionary public who are unbearably uncomfortable with any challenge to established dogma.
Are you a supporter of the racist scum then? :-X
I have apologised to Cleo via PM for what might have seemed like overreating
You'll get fat ;D
, I can see that the BNP (or a slightly watered down version of) will be in power within the next 10 years or so.
and if that happens, I, for one, will leave the country for good.
See above. If everybody right minded who can, leaves, who will be left to sort it out for those that can't?
Good post Psi. To paraphrase Jimmy Carr...
Someone comes here from a foreign country. He leaves his family and friends behind. He can't speak the language. He doesn't understand the culture. He has to arrange accommodation, find work and begin a whole new life without any support. And he manages to take your job. How shit are you?!
Going to use that.
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I wonder what planet u live on OllieC, you might not have a problem with immigration but this country does. Australia would be a good example for this country to follow.
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I wonder what planet u live on OllieC, you might not have a problem with immigration but this country does. Australia would be a good example for this country to follow.
Snipsnip, this country has a problem with illegal immigration especially when some Companies employ these people so they can pay them below the minimum wage, get away with paying tax and NI so they get bigger profits for themselves.
The immigrants that are legitimately here are necessary. Where would the NHS be without doctors, dentists, nurses and other workers who have come here from abroad? There are many other professions where their skills, expertise or willingness to work makes them necessary and welcome.
Why should we follow Australia? They have had such an influx of immigration that the indigenous population is now only 2.6 %. Should the Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders now send back all those people that settled in their country in the past 400 years? Britain would really be overcrowded then! Yet it is the settlers that seem to be the most racially prejudiced and for that reason alone I for one would rather live here in a multicultural society than suffer some of the prejudices shown by many Australians.
At the end of the day we are all Homo Sapiens and all originate from Africa.
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And it's OK for our economic migrants to go and exploit the so-called third world countries, arm both sides of their wars, yes we do, especially in Africa, but we don't want to educate "them" or have "them" work and live here, we don't want to give "them" refuge when they escape some terrible events. Too many people have daily mail attitudes and actually believe what they read in the daily mail.
This is probably the most xenophobic country I have lived in.
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I will be watching. You always hear and read about many other parties on TV, some of who's policies have not exactly been in the interests of the nation. If we are the democratic society we portray ourselves to be then all parties have the right to be heard. Demonstrators at the BBC building are no different - they have the right to demonstrate, just as the BNP who are currently a legitimate party have the right to voice their opinions. If you do not want them in power then don't vote. If you don't vote then don't whinge. The end. (That is me exercising my democratic right to freedom of speech to which every legitimate UK citizen is entitled)
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Half a life ago, (mid to late nineties) I shared a student flat with some 'ethnic-minorities', people who the BNP membership believed didn't 'belong'; these were hard-working, dedicated, focused individuals who were working their behinds off to get through uni & gain professional accreditation. We had human excrement smeared on the door and stuffed through the letterbox, along with alcohol soaked rags & Bic lighters. BNP & NF calling cards were also stuck to the door, with razor blade fragments embedded within; guess the damage caused to the first person who tried to remove that rubbish? :(
After all that, do I think the BNP should be denied a voice? No. Give them enough rope & they will ultimately hang themselves. :-X Our efforts are better spent encouraging up and coming voters to engage with the political system & challenge the parties seeking their votes; sadly, getting apathetic adults to engage their brains and ask difficult questions is a more difficult task. :(
So, yes, tonight I will be watching, but I'll probably be screaming at the TV.
/End rant.
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pauline7 this country just has a problem but hope you feel better for having your say and pointing things out to me.
ktlawson sounds the most reasonable and sensible person on this discussion
What an emotive subject
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Well, that was entertaining - you'd feel sorry for him if he had any redeeming features. I'm still trying to work out what a militant homosexual is!
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Great telly! The odious man showed himself to be a complete idiot.
"Non-violent branch of the KKK"... please!
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I have apologised to Cleo via PM for what might have seemed like overreating
You'll get fat ;D
Hmm, unfortunately just as applicable, lol
Well, that was entertaining - you'd feel sorry for him if he had any redeeming features. I'm still trying to work out what a militant homosexual is!
Entertaining it was, lol. Still a bit disappointing though because even though he's a despicable plum (for want of better words!) I wish the opportunity had been taken to really challenge him and show him for what he is instead of aiming questions at him that were totally expected (by him and the viewer) Oh and the waffle - can any politician actually give a direct answer to a straight forward question? Sigh.
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Though that there was too much on the same subject. The panel are supposed to be answering questions on topical issues not becoming the issue themselves.
Was very impressed by Baroness Karsi: a real peach of a person to compare to his despicable plum
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best one I heard was Griffin = "Adolf Brent". Terrible cheap suit as well!
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No screaming at the TV from me, just excessive eye rolling. I watched whilst reading the Question Time Twitter trending topic (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23bbcqt). There were some priceless comments e.g.
The campaign to get Nick Griffin on Who Do You Think You Are starts now!
And, in response to Griffin's comment re "militant homosexuals"...
Same-sex kissing flashmob outside BNP Headquarters, 31st October. Who's in?
This one in particular is getting a lot of attention.
I always enjoy Bonnie Greer's contributions, but last night she was outstanding. Hopefully QT will be less of a circus next week.
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Hahaha, love the idea of the same sex snog flashmob!
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Nick Griffin says he was the victim of a set-up in which the format of the current affairs debate show was changed "after 30 years".
He said: "That was not genuine Question Time, that was a lynch mob."
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So he's against minorities being picked on? This guy needs to make up his mind!
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Boot and other foot, methinks. Good. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Have alook at this, what he really meant to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QAvkFS_cgk
Lushy x
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DAD!!
WHAT!!
CANT FIND ME ROPE?
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I was more concerned about Jack Straw a front line politician that can't string two words together, Nick Griffin doe's have big broad shoulders and can take loads of personal discrimination which was thrown his way, he went on to 'QT' and in front of an hand picked audience and refereed by a BBC employee that did not chair the programme fairly held his own(if you like the cuts that the BEEb did to the programme). Nick came out the winner, good luck keep up the work to keep our country free from home grown right wing Nazi Islamic threats, who also enjoy the fact that they think that female abuse is the norm and blowing London to bits is just the start of whats to come, just my opinion, :)
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I was more concerned about Jack Straw a front line politician that can't string two words together, Nick Griffin doe's have big broad shoulders and can take loads of personal discrimination which was thrown his way, he went on to 'QT' and in front of an hand picked audience and refereed by a BBC employee that did not chair the programme fairly held his own(if you like the cuts that the BEEb did to the programme). Nick came out the winner, good luck keep up the work to keep our country free from home grown right wing Nazi Islamic threats, who also enjoy the fact that they think that female abuse is the norm and blowing London to bits is just the start of whats to come, just my opinion, :)
Are you a BNP supporter?
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I was more concerned about Jack Straw a front line politician that can't string two words together, Nick Griffin doe's have big broad shoulders and can take loads of personal discrimination which was thrown his way, he went on to 'QT' and in front of an hand picked audience and refereed by a BBC employee that did not chair the programme fairly held his own(if you like the cuts that the BEEb did to the programme). Nick came out the winner, good luck keep up the work to keep our country free from home grown right wing Nazi Islamic threats, who also enjoy the fact that they think that female abuse is the norm and blowing London to bits is just the start of whats to come, just my opinion, :)
Are you a BNP supporter?
If you look at the recent list of BNP members that was released this week by some lefty group my name does not appear on that list so I don't support the party by membership contributions that meens I'm not a supporter of the BNP, :)
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SamLouise,
'Have just been discussing the Question Time debacle with my sister and she says she's very cross with the BBC for making it seem like such a coup that they've got Griffin, instead of making it about politics.'
SL,
Who is the Moderator on this site???????????????????
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If you look at the recent list of BNP members that was released this week by some lefty group my name does not appear on that list so I don't support the party by membership contributions that meens I'm not a supporter of the BNP, :)
Support has many meanings. So do you share their views? Do you think they are worth voting for? Do you think they are good for Britain? Good for you and me?
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Before it starts, is it worth it?
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I think you can look at any political party and take out the bits you like and the bits you don't like, this can apply also to the BNP, I will support any party that makes the great British public aware of what is really going on in our country when it comes to the right wing fascist Islamics that want to disrupt our way of life by bombing London and training British born citizens in Pakistan to shoot British troops in Afghanistan, I don't go along with the BNP view of returning Brits born here to a country they nothing about just because of their skin colour, :)
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I watched this on i-player because of the interest expressed on here. There seemed to be more questions unanswered than answered and loads of party-political posturing from the usual suspects. Quite frankly I didn't feel that the "debate" was well-managed or particularly informative. They seemed to be constantly moving back and forward from one topic to another. Nothing was followed through to its conclusion. It reminded me of ' "What is truth?" said jesting Pilate, but did not wait for an answer.... '