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Title: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on September 07, 2009, 07:55:51
I have a beautiful Angel Trumpet, had it last year It had three trunks and almost lost it in the winter, the trunks completely died, nurtured it for ages was just about to throw it away then a little green shoot appeared at the base and bingo it came round and now has 5 beautiful trumpets. What can I do to keep it? Do I cut it down ? if so when? It has one long trunk.I would really like to keep it if I can
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on September 07, 2009, 11:17:59
my brugmansia is about 8ft high, with 20+ flowers on it. it's in a 100litre pot, and is kept in unheated greenhouse over-winter.
you could try wrapping the stem in fleece overwinter if your one is in the ground. ;)
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on September 07, 2009, 14:31:58
No mine is in a large pot. I shall put it in the greenhouse come end of October. Greenhouse is not heated will that be o.k?
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on September 07, 2009, 21:09:31
where are you? if you include this in your avatar details, it would make it easier to give some answers. (N.Scotland or S.Devon, it makes a lot of difference!)
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on September 08, 2009, 18:11:16
Tonybloke

     Im in Kent
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on September 08, 2009, 23:05:04
it should survive in your unheated greenhouse over winter in kent. reduce watering in late autumn, and don't water at all when there is hard frost around (dec-march).
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on September 09, 2009, 18:43:15
I have 8 and they do fine in the unheated greenhouse BUT if there are lots of frosts i put some fleece over them, had trouble with white fly this year !
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on September 09, 2009, 20:14:18
mine is outdoors from spring 'til late autumn, no room for it along with me tomatoes and cuc's
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on September 09, 2009, 20:18:27
Yep mine go outside after the last frosts love the scent by the back door :)
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on September 09, 2009, 20:20:42
ours is by the back door as well, you can smell our brugmansia half-way down our street on a hot, still night. it's lovely, innit?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on September 09, 2009, 23:57:32
Thanks for all the advice. and your right the perfume from them is truly wonderfull. If I'm successful keeping it this year I shall get another next year. My one at the moment is yellow I would like a pink one next. Can i take cuttings from my plant? or have I left it to late?
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on September 10, 2009, 00:29:38
Not to late to take cuttings, i cut bits off and put them into water and the root really fast.
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on September 10, 2009, 07:50:15
Thanks Flower

    I'll give that a try at the weekend.
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on September 10, 2009, 09:35:47
Not to late to take cuttings, i cut bits off and put them into water and the root really fast.
ditto!!
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on September 11, 2009, 02:21:37
In Autumn, I take a piece about 6 inches long, and sit it in 3 inches (ish) of water in a jar in a bright, but not direct sunlit place.

In a couple of weeks it'll sprout roots from the little white dots on the stem. Pot it up into a 6inch (min) pot until the Spring, keeping it well watered.

Pot it up again into a 3ltr pot and feed with a balanced feed. I use chicken pellets.

After frost have finished, pot it up into a 10ltr pot and place outside. Feed one a week with a handfull of chicken pellets and keep well watered.

Just keep potting on as required, doubling the size each time. It should flower in its second year.

Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on September 11, 2009, 11:42:33
Right here we go:

 I've cut 6 little side shoots from my trunk (only have one trunk)  and put them in water. I have also put 3 little bits in soil in a pot and covered with a plastic bag as I have done with my pinks cuttings. Do you think this might also work?
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: Slug_killer on September 16, 2009, 12:00:58
my brugmansia is about 8ft high, with 20+ flowers on it. it's in a 100litre pot, and is kept in unheated greenhouse over-winter.
you could try wrapping the stem in fleece overwinter if your one is in the ground. ;)

A 100ltr pot !
How on earth do you move it? It must weigh a ton, let alone be to big to get through the greenhouse door.

Can they be left outside ?
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on September 28, 2009, 21:03:13
A 100ltr pot !
How on earth do you move it? It must weigh a ton, let alone be to big to get through the greenhouse door.

Can they be left outside ?

with a sack-barrow and a couple of mates!!
after this year it should be 'woody' enough to be left outdoors, and will be planted out next year. (wrapped in fleece and bubble wrap for the winters)
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on October 02, 2009, 21:27:54
 My cuttings are going great guns the ones in water have quite long roots growing, They have been in water for 3 weeks, when should i pot them up? The ones i put in pots have all died  :(  SO water rooting is obviously best

Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on October 03, 2009, 09:47:28
Pesky Wabbit do you water down your chicken pellets or do you just sprinkle them on the soil?
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on October 05, 2009, 10:49:37
Nop, don't water down, just chuck a handfull on and let the regular summer monsoon water it in.


ps I dont use chicken pellets in the house, the stink is too much !
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on October 05, 2009, 22:33:55
I'm going to pot my cuttings tomorrow in the 6" pots as Pesky Wabbit advised. Two are ready to pot up. Really pleased that they rotted so quickley, PW said it would take about 2 weeks and she was right.  :D :D I just hope that they take when they go into pots. I think I'll keep then indoors on a window sill its getting quite cold at night, even in the south :o
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on October 06, 2009, 12:39:48
You don't have pot up just yet if you don't want to. Another couple of weeks in water won't hurt. It just depends on how much real estate (window sill space) you have. Only when the roots fill the jam-jar (or if you have more than one stick in a jar -when the roots are starting to get entangled) then potting up is actually required.

Once potted up, keep the compost moist. As you know, they are happy in pure water, so you cant over -water them.

Under-watering will limit the amount of root growth/swelling.

I wouldn't feed just yet, there'll be plenty of food in the compost - the thing is not actually growing yet.
You just getting the roots established in soil for anchoring and for easy potting on.

When you start seeing some top growth (ie leaves) then give it a half strengh liquid feed - just to keep it going until the spring. At this stage roots is what you want, not leaves.

If your cuttings arnt rroting, or you feel you want more, then its nnot too late to take more. BUT remember each fully grow plant will want a 100 ltr tub to live in, ie about a square yard of pot, and will need overwintering insdie.
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on October 06, 2009, 23:33:13
Thanks PW I was going to pot them today but boiler has broken in the house so trying to find plumber! ??? I shall leave them for a while longer. The roots are growing well but nowhere filling the jar.
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on October 26, 2009, 07:08:02
Help my Brugmansia has been attacked, the leaves have lots of little holes in them some leaves have been left in the skeleton state with just the veins left. I cannot see anything on them no bugs no fly nothing what is it? and will i loose the plant. I want to put it in the green house over winter but I'm afraid it will spread (what ever it is)
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on October 26, 2009, 15:06:16
heavy rain can make some quite fearfull looking holes in brugmansia leaves!!
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on October 26, 2009, 19:51:46
No Tonybloke  This is not rain it has definitely been eaten as I said one or two leaves are left just like skeleton's with just the veins left.
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on October 26, 2009, 20:12:29
I think the swift-moth caterpillar is a likely culprit?
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on October 27, 2009, 07:26:12
Thanks tony i shall try to paste a photo of the leaves to day. If it is the swift moth would i be able to see it? and what can i treat it with, because at the moment i can't see a thing.
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: tonybloke on November 01, 2009, 14:56:49
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yesterday, by the back door
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: ACE on November 02, 2009, 18:40:22

after this year it should be 'woody' enough to be left outdoors, and will be planted out next year. (wrapped in fleece and bubble wrap for the winters)

They are never woody enough to leave outside. I must live in a spot that must be warmer than most of you. Even with the micro climates I have set up in my gardens I lost a brugmansia last year. It is the cold damp that does the damage in this country. I have friends who live in spain and they tell me they do sometimes have frosts but do not loose their mediteranian plants. It is our muggy old british weather that rots and moulders our exotics.
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on November 02, 2009, 23:41:26
Tonybloke I'm green with envy you have the same colour that i have but yours is three times the size of mine :o :o but the flowers are glorious and the perfume is spectacular. How long have you had yours?
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on November 02, 2009, 23:46:46
Just zoomed in on your photo's of your Brugmansia and can see you too have little holes in some of your leaves not as bad as mine but they look the same. ???
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: Slug_killer on November 03, 2009, 02:22:33
Due to the recent (and welcome) rain,  mine have put on loads of new lush growth.

Shame really as I'm about to remove alot of the foliage and put the to bed for the winter.

Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: aggie on November 03, 2009, 07:18:07
What do you do with yours for the winter?
Title: Re: Angels Trumpet (Brugmansia
Post by: Slug_killer on November 03, 2009, 11:49:44
Mine go into the utility room. Its the only space I have free thats frost free as well as having daylight.
If I dont remove a lot of the leaves beforehand, they only drop and make the place very untidy.
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