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Title: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: poppie1 on August 05, 2009, 16:35:57
can anyone recommend a good allround out door tomato,apart from the usual stuff.
a friend of mine keeps sending me seeds from belgium,yet i have no greenhouse(just a diddy lean to) and none have really taken or done much,
and yes i know,dont be tight get a greenhouse.
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: Flighty on August 05, 2009, 16:43:56
Poppie I've been recommended Red Alert as being one of the best bush varieties to grow outside.

http://www.moreveg.co.uk/shop/article_TOMRA/Tomato-Red-Alert.html?shop_param=cid%3D49%26aid%3DTOMRA%26

I shall be trying it next year!
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: OllieC on August 05, 2009, 16:48:01
I'm doing Red Alert amongst others this year, and it is pretty early, a bit of greenback but nothing too sinister. Is it an all-rounder though? It's not very big...

Sungold is the most amazing taste, and beats RA by a few weeks down here... it's a cherry (and an F1 so not everyone's ideal, fine if you're growing for taste though!)...

Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: labrat on August 05, 2009, 18:57:59
I'm in the North of Scotland and for me Red Alert is an outdoor performer - doesn't put on a lot of leaves but loads of fruit. I've tried Sub Arctic Plenty this year as well but though they have produced big, green, healthy plants they just haven't set fruit - they don't like the rain.

I have little plastic tomato houses that are outside and they have produced ripe Sungold (before Red Alert) and Moneymaker has put on lots of big green fruit that hopefully will ripen before it gets too cool.

cheers
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: poppie1 on August 05, 2009, 22:23:55
thanks all,what a response,cheers :D :D :D
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: saddad on August 05, 2009, 22:30:08
 
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and yes i know,dont be tight get a greenhouse.

Or a polytunnel, you get alot more ground covered for the same money. Toms like Polys...

I have most luck outside with basket toms like Gartenpearle and Whippersnapper... lots of early cherry toms, been eating for a month here in sunny (?) Derby...
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: Georgie on August 05, 2009, 22:49:19
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and yes i know,dont be tight get a greenhouse.

I have most luck outside with basket toms like Gartenpearle and Whippersnapper... lots of early cherry toms, been eating for a month here in sunny (?) Derby...

Heck, what size baskets do you use?  My Whippersnapper plants are huge!  ;D

G x
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: saddad on August 05, 2009, 23:14:48
They are very smart... the lack of water/nutrients keeps them proportionate to the basket...  :)
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: meg_gordon on August 06, 2009, 08:48:50
  I have most luck outside with basket toms like Gartenpearle

Saddad, my Gartenpearle look like a flowering shrub - there are sooooo many flowers and green toms - question is, if there are still trusses that haven't ripened when the weather gets a bit cooler, would it be ok to move them into the greenhouse to extend their season a bit?

Meg
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: saddad on August 06, 2009, 08:51:59
Yes, they'll love you for it, can crop to the end of October under glass...  :)
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: cleo on August 06, 2009, 11:52:10
I`m not sure what you mean by `the usual stuff` but my climate is not so very different to where you are(I come from Bedfordshire originally)

Some you could try;

Sweet Million-OK it`s a cherry but very good

As for `standards`

Outdoor girl

Matina

Gardener`s delight-small but always good

Harbinger

St Pierre

Blaby?-I only grow it inside but it should be OK(the seeds might be hard to find but some of us should have some later)

The list goes on really
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: Barnowl on August 06, 2009, 11:53:50
Does Shirley F1 count as the usual stuff? Very reliable medium round .

Olivade F1 medium plum - good flavour but perhaps texture makes it better for passata than straight eating

Sungella - Sungold's big sister - has been pretty reliable and well flavoured.

Balconi Red & Yellow - small for baskets. Better flavour than Gartenperle (IMHO  :))

Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: Trevor_D on August 06, 2009, 12:23:57
Costoluto always does well outside for me. Black Russian? Harbinger is early. And I like King George (from the Heritage Seed Library).

I've never done particularly well with Shirley outdoors, but under glass it produces masses of fruit.

And I've only grown it a couple of times, but I'm quite impressed by Auriga.
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: BarriedaleNick on August 06, 2009, 12:40:18
Sungella, tigerella and harbinger work for me.
Cherrola is working well for me this year being the earliest.

Depends what you want them for - none of the above with the poss exception of Harbinger are good paste toms - great for salads tho.
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: tricia on August 06, 2009, 21:58:20
Another reliable and prolific one is Harzfeuer - seeds from Lidl.

Tricia
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: kt. on August 06, 2009, 23:30:33
I tried Tumbling Tom in hanging baskets this year,  2 plants per basket.  We are harvesting cherry toms now but I am a bit disappointed with the yields.  The plant produced flowers that turned to toms that we have harvested but is not producing any more flowers for further cropping....
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: macmac on August 07, 2009, 00:02:48
Did anyone grow Vicky from Marshalls ?it was a baby plum, we've saved some some seed as it's discontinued but not as good  :(
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: poppie1 on August 07, 2009, 07:03:35
blimey didn't know there were that many tom enthusiasts on here,by the usual i mean,garden d,shirley,beefsteak.
that all our local nursery grow.
never have tried to sow toms from seed,YET.
as for a polytunnel,we are in middle of a field and fear it may get blown away(dont think old misery guts would let me have one anyway)
are the polytunnels expensive?
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: saddad on August 07, 2009, 07:45:27
If you buy the right sort they don't blow away... but the cover can get torn in gales. Make sure the door/doors don't face into the prevailing wind.

Toms from seeds are dead easy... if you fancy trying a variety I'm sure we could find it and send you half a dozen...  :)
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: poppie1 on August 07, 2009, 09:43:48
do you know you are probably the nicest person i have ever had the pleasure of chatting with.the beans are going great by the way(apart fom mogex,no sign).
i cant believe that there are really genuine people still out there(until i came across this site that is)
there have been so many toms discussed not sure of whats what.
just want one for salads or perhaps the odd one to grill.
looked on ebay a while ago poly tunnels are quite cheap really,would you recommend any?
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: saddad on August 07, 2009, 09:50:27
I've always used "First Polytunnels" had it for about 12 years, used three covers (partly my fault as the communal bonfire is on the next plot...) but there have been several threads about them. If I was just going for a few toms I'd have a basket one (Whippersnapper) to get some very early, a Black Cherry or Sungold for salads and a larger one eg "Greek" for grill and cooking...  :)
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: poppie1 on August 07, 2009, 10:13:22
thankyou for your good solid advice.will do just that.
is there anything you may be looking for?
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on August 07, 2009, 10:54:52
For a blight resistant nice tomato you cant beat Feline !! lovely size toms and they taste pretty good to, never had on get blight even though others around them have got it !
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: saddad on August 07, 2009, 11:15:20
I'm always looking Poppie..  ;D
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: BarriedaleNick on August 07, 2009, 12:30:52
For a blight resistant nice tomato you cant beat Feline !! lovely size toms and they taste pretty good to, never had on get blight even though others around them have got it !

Have you a link for the seeds or where do you get them??  Always interested in blight resistance!
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on August 07, 2009, 12:37:57
T & M do the Ferline :)
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: BarriedaleNick on August 07, 2009, 16:30:16
Ah that explains it - Ferline not Feline!  Whole different set of search results..
Cheers..
Title: Re: good allrounder outdoor tom?
Post by: cleo on August 07, 2009, 17:09:11
i cant believe that there are really genuine people still out there(until i came across this site that is)

How kind of you to say that-we try. We may not all agree on some things but we try to remain civilised and we are genuine
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