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General => The Shed => Topic started by: Squash64 on July 09, 2009, 19:59:30
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Does anyone know if a person who has this kind of white line across their drive can forbid people to park there? Today I visited an elderly bed-ridden friend who lives opposite the house with the white lines. There was nowhere to park except a space in front of the house which meant that I was about one foot over the lines. There are double yellows on the opposite side of the road.
When I returned to my car the woman had left a notice stuck to my windscreen telling me not to park over her dropped kerb or on the white line. The notice would not come off and I had to drive home with it stuck there.
There is more to this story - I will elaborate if anyone is interested. >:(
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Aragona/Copyofjuly09006.jpg)
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http://www.theaa.com/public_affairs/news/parking-at-dropped-kerbs.html
hope this helps >:(
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It looks like the lady paid to have the kerb dropped and also paid to have a white line painted across her dropped kerb more than likely she might be disabled herself, :)
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It's not the person who forbids parking across dropped kerbs, it's the law. Whether you would have got a ticket for overlapping by a foot would probably depend on what kind of day the officer was having. I'd guess that the resident has had a lot of trouble with blocking of their access for them to have taken the action they did.
Probably not what you wanted to hear, sorry.
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Squash - dear heart,
If it was a nice day & your friend was not far away, could you have walked perchance?
:D :D :D
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She doesn't have the right to stick a permanent label when a bit of paper under the windscreen wiper would have sufficed.
That is criminal damage.
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It looks like the lady paid to have the kerb dropped and also paid to have a white line painted across her dropped kerb more than likely she might be disabled herself, :)
Yes, I think she did pay for them herself. So does that mean that anyone can have a white line painted across the dropped kerb, or is it only for disabled?
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http://www.theaa.com/public_affairs/news/parking-at-dropped-kerbs.html
hope this helps >:(
Well it sort-of helped. But from what I understood of it, someone could be prosecuted for parking across their own dropped kerb. :o
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It's not the person who forbids parking across dropped kerbs, it's the law. Whether you would have got a ticket for overlapping by a foot would probably depend on what kind of day the officer was having. I'd guess that the resident has had a lot of trouble with blocking of their access for them to have taken the action they did.
Probably not what you wanted to hear, sorry.
No, not what I wanted to hear :(
In my innocence, I thought it was only double yellows that we couldn't park on.
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Where the parking is specifically for disabled people, it is marked disabled.
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Squash - dear heart,
If it was a nice day & your friend was not far away, could you have walked perchance?
:D :D :D
Thanks for that, it really made me laugh!
Yes, it was a nice day.
No, my friend was not far away.
Yes, I could have walked.....
but I was too knackered after a morning digging out a bed full of switch grass to walk anywhere. That's my excuse anyway.....
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She doesn't have the right to stick a permanent label when a bit of paper under the windscreen wiper would have sufficed.
That is criminal damage.
The label was stuck so firmly that only water and a scraper would have got it off. Quite annoying really. It's still there, I left it to show my husband when he came home.
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Where the parking is specifically for disabled people, it is marked disabled.
That's what I would have thought. There was no disabled sign there, but I wasn't even blocking her in anyway.
I trimmed the photo, but the original shows how much room there was. If she couldn't get the car out, she shouldn't be on the road.
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as someone who has a dropped kerb allowing access to our drive and garage I understand the residents frustration >:(we've often been hemmed in by people when our car has been parked on the drive ready to drive away.While I'm sure you didn't mean to upset anyone if i was the anyone in question you would have upset me >:( sorry squash :-*
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It looks like the lady paid to have the kerb dropped and also paid to have a white line painted across her dropped kerb more than likely she might be disabled herself, :)
Yes, I think she did pay for them herself. So does that mean that anyone can have a white line painted across the dropped kerb, or is it only for disabled?
Squash,
Do you have a drive or a parking space outside your house, of course you do and I bet you don't like anyone parking on your patch, ;)
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Do what I did, give up your car and buy a bike.
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I can understand how someone would be angry if they were blocked in but I genuinely thought that I had left plenty of room for her car to get out. I do have a dropped kerb myself and many times cars have parked across it but I have never felt the need to stick something on their windscreen. I prefer to speak to people, not leave messages. I do know the woman concerned and she knew which house I was visiting. If I had blocked her in I would have apologised and moved my car immediately but she preferred to leave a message rather than talk to me.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Aragona/july09006-1.jpg)
I am not the most brilliant driver in the world but I wouldn't have had any difficulty getting out of the drive.
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Legally, dropped kerbs are to be fitted by the council, hence a hefty bill, currently around £700 in our borough. If people have had it done themselves, or if there are entrance gates with no dropped kerbs fitted by the council then you cannot be given a ticket because the access is illegal and, unfortunately, you are free to park across the entrance. We complained to the council about parking across our dropped kerbs. We paid for them to paint the white line across the access. They will only do this if they fitted it. You can then be given an illegally parked ticket if you park on it as it becomes an official No Parking area.
There are several of these now on our street, but only for houses where the kerbs have been council fitted. Our neighbour opposite, was refused the white line because he had done the kerbs himself.
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Are you saying she couldn't get the silver car on the left past the turquoise car on the right? If so, that's hilarious!
(apart from the sellotape on paint bit...).
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I don't think that it is not the point she could not get her car out, due to your overlapping her drive you have put her in a position were she now has to reverse right out into on coming traffic from the other side of the road in order to get out of her drive.
I know how she feels as i live on a narrow road and people park opposite my drive and in order to get out / in i end up having to do a 10 point turn. This would not be so bad if the road was quite, but we do get the odd nutter on a regular basis who thinks he / she is a F1 driver and then get annoyed that they have to slam on because you are in the middle of the road and then on some occasions i have been forced to go back in the drive as they have no intention of waiting.
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We go through this twice daily, as we have a popular primary school near us, and the mums bring their little darlings by car (4x4 or peep carrier) from two streets away to park, and then walk them round the corner.
Some time ago I had a friend visiting, and we watched as a mum parked so close to his car that her car was touching his bumper. So I filmed it with my phone. She saw me doing this, so got into the car and moved it back a couple of feet so it was then blocking my opposite neighbour's drive. So I took another picture.
About 20 minutes later the front door bell rang and she was on my doorstep - shaking with rage (I thought she was going to explode or hit me) - screaming abuse at me for filming her and how illegal it was to take pictures of people without their permission blah blah blah. She then took a photo with her phone of the number plate of my friend's car which scared the hell out of him! I never saw her again!!!
Squash, your neighbour's drive is no problem at all - there's a house near here with a tree blocking a drive more than that car!!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Parking infront of someone's drive is a no-no whether there is a line there or not. Blocking access isn't fair. This is a different situation, but similar problem. At work we have some 'double parking bay'. This buddy system is only meant to be used by people who know each other so, if there was an emergency you could get out. Anyway one day the carpark was full so I parked at the back of a buddy bay. One of the other science staff parked behind me so that was okay and we had an open evening going on till 8.30 anyway. At the end of the open evening I went outside to find someone else (no idea who) had parked behind me. Bearing in mind this was 8.30 at night and I had been there since 7.30 in the morning. There was noway I could have got out as the places either side of me were taken. This person was nowhere to be seen. There is a 5-a-side football pitch very close and so I went in there and asked them to read the number plate out on the tannoy. That was the most likely scenario. But, they couldn't do that as they didn't have one ::) I waited for an hour (getting more and more annoyed). I got out an hour later when someone else in the space to the right on me returned and I was able to do a ridiculous maneuver to get out. How someone can think it is okay to block someone's exit and then go off and enjoy themselves all evening I have no idea! They were lucky I didn't 'bump' the car out of the way.
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my friend was a paraplegic, outside her house the council had painted a white box which said disabled on it, they were however told by the same council that as it was white and not yello it was only advisory not enforcable ::)
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As part of my job, i control the radio's for our parking attendents. I had the same query about parking over your own drive. The answer from the people in charge was... no, you can not be prosecuted for parking over your own drive. Though you might get a ticket if a mean neighbour phones up and pretends your parked over their drive ;D
If anyone parks over your drive, phone up your local council and ask for a parking attendant to attened.
Squash
I think you would of got a fine if a parking attendant was asked to attened by the lady in question.
Neil
Well it sort-of helped. But from what I understood of it, someone could be prosecuted for parking across their own dropped kerb. :o
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debster to think anyone would park in a disabled spot, yellow or white lines is beyond belief. My late husband was in a wheelchair and when I asked a person to move he replied "Plenty of other spaces" obviously the idiot didn't know disabled spaces are wider to enable people to maneuver wheelchairs more easily (and to avoid damaging other people's vehicles with wide open doors.)
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Thanks everyone for all the replies.
I just want to make it clear that I would never block anyone in their drive, or anywhere else for that matter. I thought I had left plenty of room for this woman to get her car out.
Looks as though I was in the wrong though :( Never mind, we live and learn.
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Another problem -
If I had moved my car a foot or two forward and the wheel had been to the left of the line, would that still have been an obstruction?
The reason I'm asking is because my husband parked in the road next door to the White Line Woman today. His tyres were outside of the line but the back part of the car overhung the line. I'm sure she sits behind her net curtains all day waiting for someone to park and she came flying out of the house and started being abusive to him. He is Italian and gets excited easily :-[ so I'm afraid they had a bit of an arguement.
She said that no part of the car should be over the line. My husband said that so long as the tyres were not over the line it was ok.
I'm almost losing the will to live, but who is right in this case?
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I think if any part is over it's technically wrong - the whole vehicle is to be within the allocated space as the wheelbase is nothing to do with the flow of traffic!
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All,
The law states that nobody shall park across a persons drive if cars are on the drive.
It is illegal to prevent anyone gaining access to the road, but if there are no cars in the drive then you can park there as no crime is committed by blocking a drive with no vehicles there. Thus preventing any movement onto the road.
It has been shown to me by the police that a person blocking another in and preventing a person from accessing the road can be fined under the road traffic act.
Better not to park over a dropped kerbage rather than getting a fine.
White lines are not a prevention of parking rather a courtesy, asking drivers not to block a driveway.
Yellow and red(London) lines are there to prevent stopping and parking.
White are there for not blocking entrances or hindering wheel chair use.
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I don't think that's correct landimad. It's an offence to obstruct access over a dropped kerb whether there are cars on a driveway or not. The white lines are advisory, you aren't given a penalty for parking on them. You're given the penalty for causing an obstruction. The relevant legislation is the Traffic Management Act 2004.
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Thanks Ceres,
You put the right way of saying as always where my grammer is poor.