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Title: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Kepouros on May 06, 2009, 17:57:35
To any of you who read this advice when I first posted it 2 years ago I apologise, but for the newer members about to dig their first early potatoes it is worth repeating.

First Early Potatoes are capable of giving several crops from one plant.  Once they reach maturity they will keep on producing tubers until either they are exhausted, or they get blighted..  The trick is to lift the plant carfully, with all its roots intact (2 forks are better than one for this), then feeling carefully among the roots to take off every tuber of edible size.  If you look carefully you will see that the stolons (the thick white runners from which you have just removed the potatoes) have numerous tiny immature tubers which can still develop.  Replant the plant carefully, burying it slightly deeper than it was before, and keep it well watered for several days.  Two weeks or so later you can dig up the plant and repeat the process  - more than once.

I regularly take 3 crops from either Rocket or Swift in this manner, and I find that 4  plants of Rocket will keep me fully supplied in potatoes from late May until early July, when I start digging Sharpes Express.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: gwynleg on May 06, 2009, 19:20:23
Thanks for this - have been on this site quite a long time but hadnt known this. yehey more potatoes!!
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: tomatoada on May 06, 2009, 19:26:29
Yes thanks.  I hope this will work with my International Kidney.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: PurpleHeather on May 06, 2009, 19:30:58
Brilliant information, please do re-post it because new people are always around and need this sort of advice.

I have often done a search on site, not found an answer and posted the question only to find that some smart ass puts a reply on that it has been answered in the past.

That is not constructive at all. Your advice is simply written, easy to follow and I am sure that a lot of people, experienced and new to gardening will learn from it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Georgie on May 06, 2009, 20:29:48
As a first time Potato grower this is certainly news to me.  Many thanks.   :)

G x
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: grannyjanny on May 06, 2009, 21:34:48
Me too. Did my first earthing up today. Not perfect but it's OK.
Janet
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: mummybunny on May 06, 2009, 22:05:42
Can you do the same to potatoes grown in bags and pots? ::)

Thanks lucy
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Larkshall on May 06, 2009, 22:26:06
This might be OK on light land, but I doubt if it would work on heavy clay.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Kepouros on May 06, 2009, 22:41:55
And have you tried it or are you just going to sit there casting gloom and despondency around?  Two years ago I was told on this site that it wouldn`t work at all until I pointed out that I`d been doing it for years.  Anyway, if you think your soil is too heavy just mix a spadeful of well made compost in when you replant.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Kepouros on May 06, 2009, 22:53:48
Sorry Lucy, I should have answered you first.  I`m afraid that I have never grown potatoes in either bags or pots, so I can`t answer from personal experience.  As far as bag grown plants are concerned I would think that the root damage caused in getting the whole plant out would make it far less likely to succeed unless the whole top of the bag were opened.  As far as pot grown are concerned it should work quite well, since you can turn the pot onto its side and ease the whole plant out rather than digging it out, but I would suggest a larger pot and fresh compost to repot it

The whole point is that you can`t lose anything by trying.  You were going to throw the plant away anyway once you`d dug it up and picked off the spuds, so what can you lose by giving it another chance to perform?
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Kepouros on May 07, 2009, 00:23:05
I`ve looked up the original posting ( with pictures).  This is it.

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,33428.msg334144.html#msg334144

I`m afraid that I don`t know how to turn it into a link, but perhaps one of our more `with it` members can oblige
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Hector on May 07, 2009, 08:16:16
Thanks for this information, really interesting :)
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: tim on May 07, 2009, 09:02:05
Been there, done it, Mr K.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: redrichwen on May 07, 2009, 11:26:18
Can you do the same to potatoes grown in bags and pots? ::)

Thanks lucy

It will work on potatoes grown in bags or pots! I've done it for a couple of years. Its actually easier when its in a pot to get the plant up and repotted after with the minimum of stress, than when you're digging it up out of the ground. Just tip it gently out to one side whilst supporting the stem. Good luck
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: chriscross1966 on May 07, 2009, 12:17:16
I'm pretty certain one of the potato planter pots that the seed companies are selling ATM has little trapdoors in it to allow for early harvesting without taking the plant out....
chrisc
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Doris_Pinks on May 07, 2009, 13:03:25
Great idea, will be giving this a go! Thank you!
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Pink Fingers on May 08, 2009, 11:47:16
Sounds like a great idea. I've been told  not to dig up potatoes until they flower, or is that just an old wives tale.? :-\
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Kepouros on May 08, 2009, 13:05:03
It`s not an old wives` tale, it used to be very valid but it`s out of date now.   A lot of the very first earlies (Rocket in particular) rarely have any flowers at all, and with several others the flower buds form but drop off without opening.  The only way to judge with first earlies is either the careful "firkle" technique into the side of the ridge with the fingers, or just dive in with the fork, carefully dig up the whole plant etc. etc.

A lot of the 2nd earlies and maincrop start flowering long before they start producing tubers and can literally go on for months.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Kendy on May 08, 2009, 14:11:12
Hmm very interesting !

Could you just have a firkle to expose the ready spuds and thereby not actually lifting the plant out of the ground ?
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Kepouros on May 08, 2009, 16:28:34
That is precisely what I meant, then a careful scraping away of the soil to extract them.  Trouble is that at my age it requires rather more bending than I like, so it`s easier to dig one up and replant.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Pink Fingers on May 08, 2009, 18:13:51
I'm tempted to have an exploratory little firkle (what a lovely word) tomorrow, so I'll let you know what I find.  ;D
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: cornykev on May 08, 2009, 21:25:41
Hi Kepouros, instead of digging up the plant wouldn't it be easier to just firkle and take what spuds you need and cover back up with the soil, just a thought.  :-\     ???       ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Kepouros on May 08, 2009, 23:56:15
If your ridges are like mine - about 15 inches wide at the base - you`ll be lucky to get near the ones in  the middle that way, and quite frankly I think you`d do far more damage to the tuber bearing stolons (which are far more brittle than a fibrous root) in trying than you would by carefully lifting the whole plant
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: mummybunny on May 09, 2009, 17:25:36
Just remembered to check in on this post i have a small pot with one in so im going to give it a try with that one  ;D will let you know how i get on.

Thanks lucy
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: mummybunny on May 09, 2009, 20:40:17
Well the outcome was FANTASTIC we had our very first home grown baby potatoes and they were the best i have ever tasted  ;D Even the kids  polished theirs off. Even had home grown mixed leaves and radish with our salad. Yummy
 
Bigs thumbs up now lets see how they get on now

 ;D
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: thifasmom on May 09, 2009, 21:04:47
i had a firkle today in my bag and i can feel some aswell but will leave for another week or so as they all felt kinda small.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: AnnieD on May 18, 2017, 13:35:47
Looking for advice on when to harvest my earlies, and found this. Sounds very useful.

So I don't have to wait for them to flower? I planted Arran Pilot and Lady Christi on 30th March. So it's been 7 weeks.
They have good foliage growth but no flowers yet. How do I know when they are ready?
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Pescador on May 18, 2017, 17:20:15
Annie, the answer is in the posts above.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: Jayb on May 19, 2017, 08:46:50
Looking for advice on when to harvest my earlies, and found this. Sounds very useful.

So I don't have to wait for them to flower? I planted Arran Pilot and Lady Christi on 30th March. So it's been 7 weeks.
They have good foliage growth but no flowers yet. How do I know when they are ready?

Generally aim for 10 weeks from planting to start harvesting for 1st earlies. I think Arran Pilot normally flowers, though earlies do have more of a tendency to drop their flower buds. You can always gently have a little scrape away of the soil to see what is happening underneath, should give you a better idea on whether to replace the soil and wait a bit longer, or dig up.
Title: Re: Multicropping of First Early Potatoes
Post by: AnnieD on May 19, 2017, 09:46:09
OK thanks, will wait another 3 weeks then have a little look  :happy7:
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