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Title: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: reddyreddy on March 16, 2009, 10:13:29
I tried all sorts of squash last year and got zip from them. Any tips on how to suceed? Ie when to sow, where (greenhouse, etc) I adore them so would love a big crop! :D
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: caroline7758 on March 16, 2009, 15:31:38
It wasa bad year for squash last year- not enough sun! I'm no expert but I don't plan to sow mine until April at the earliest and I'mgoing toput them in the sunniest spot of the plot and hope for a good summer!
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: 1066 on March 16, 2009, 17:07:26
I tried squash last year and also didn't have a great success - so I'm going to put my inability to grow good squash down to the poor weather last year  ;D
I think one of the main things is that they really don't like cold and need long hot days, so I was planning on sowing seeds in april, then planting out sometime in may, but I'm going to try and warm the ground up (cover it) before hand to give them an extra boost. They are also hungry plants, so lots of manure (if you can get it) would be good as well
Which varieties are you trying this year?
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: shirlton on March 16, 2009, 17:19:46
Sow mine in April as well. This year I am growing some up canes.
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: spudsmummy on March 23, 2009, 07:49:28
hi there
this is going to be my first growing year and i am going to try growing some squash. i am going to try baby boo, Uchiki Kuri, butternut and some from seeds i saved from last years halloween pumpkins.
i am hopeing to grow some of the smaller ones up canes to try and save space. i am really looking forward to it, is that sad or what lol

Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: adrianhumph on March 23, 2009, 08:46:54
Hi all,
         Despite a poor summer I still had plenty of pumpkins ;D In fact there are still 4 left in the garage and they have kept very well.
My favourite for it`s nutty flavour is Blue Kuri (available from Kings seeds) I grew this & Uchi Kuri last year & Blue has a much better flavour.
 I sow the seeds in individual 3 inch pots dabout mid April, just on a windowsill indoors, no heat required. During May, when the weather is fine put them outside during the day only. At the end of May  dig a hole, fill with well rotted compost/manure & plant the pumpkin in the middle. At the time of planting, place an empty 2 litre plastic bottle, top side down with the bottom cut off, in the planting hole. This is for watering the plant it makes it much easier to pour the water into the bottle and get the water into the base of the plant. When pumpkins grow they take up a lot of space & the amount foliage makes it difficult to  water.
 Also plant them at least 1 metre apart, they need a lot of space. I always hand pollinate in case the bees don`t  >:(  Take a male flower ( the one without a lump behind the flower) peel off the petals & brush the inside of the female flowers with the stamen . This should ensure pollination.
 Once the fruits have started to swell, feed with tomato feed every week.
  Hope this helps.

                               Adrian.
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: reddyreddy on March 23, 2009, 08:50:43
Thanks that is very helpful, I will follow it to the letter and report back my success!! ;D
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: hopalong on March 29, 2009, 22:58:30
One of my compost heaps is nearly full and partially rotted down.  I thought I'd put some earth over the heap and grow one or two squash plants (raised indoors) into it. The compost heap is in an open position. Has anyone tried this and does it work?
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: cheerfulness on March 30, 2009, 08:33:23
Hopalong - although I've never done it personally, I've just finished reading a book from the library about someone who did exactly the same thing on his allotment each year with fantastic results.

I'm sure I've read in other gardening books that this is a good idea, too.
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Squash64 on March 30, 2009, 08:37:51
One of my compost heaps is nearly full and partially rotted down.  I thought I'd put some earth over the heap and grow one or two squash plants (raised indoors) into it. The compost heap is in an open position. Has anyone tried this and does it work?
Yes!
Last year I had a pile of rotted horse manure plus bedding in the area where I grow pumpkins.  I scooped a hole from the top, filled it with bought compost and planted an Atlantic Giant in it. It grew fantastically and
I won our Biggest Pumpkin competition with one of 166lbs!
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: hopalong on March 31, 2009, 10:53:48
One of my compost heaps is nearly full and partially rotted down.  I thought I'd put some earth over the heap and grow one or two squash plants (raised indoors) into it. The compost heap is in an open position. Has anyone tried this and does it work?
Yes!
Last year I had a pile of rotted horse manure plus bedding in the area where I grow pumpkins.  I scooped a hole from the top, filled it with bought compost and planted an Atlantic Giant in it. It grew fantastically and
I won our Biggest Pumpkin competition with one of 166lbs!

That's wonderful and inspirational! I'll definitely go for it. I'm not sure my small family could use a 166lb pumpkin, even if I could grow one, but I'm sure the school could raffle it or use it for hallowe'n.
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Twoflower on March 31, 2009, 10:57:59
When you say grow them up canes, do you mean like beans? If you do this do you have to support the fruit?
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Squash64 on March 31, 2009, 21:52:22


That's wonderful and inspirational! I'll definitely go for it. I'm not sure my small family could use a 166lb pumpkin, even if I could grow one, but I'm sure the school could raffle it or use it for hallowe'n.

This is a photo of the 166 pound pumpkin.  As you can see, much too big to lift so not really practical for raffles or halloween.  I contacted a local Sikh temple and they came and collected it for use in their kitchen.
I only grow the giants for the competition, not to eat because I find them too watery.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Aragona/12oct08026.jpg)
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Squash64 on March 31, 2009, 21:57:40
When you say grow them up canes, do you mean like beans? If you do this do you have to support the fruit?
I grow them up canes every year and have never supported the fruit.  Even really heavy ones like this Blue Banana don't need it.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Aragona/squash/2006_0806july060007a.jpg)
You need to have a strong frame, not a wigwam and obviously, you don't grow something like Atlantic Giant up canes!  ;D
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: hopalong on March 31, 2009, 23:16:43


That's wonderful and inspirational! I'll definitely go for it. I'm not sure my small family could use a 166lb pumpkin, even if I could grow one, but I'm sure the school could raffle it or use it for hallowe'n.

This is a photo of the 166 pound pumpkin.  As you can see, much too big to lift so not really practical for raffles or halloween.  I contacted a local Sikh temple and they came and collected it for use in their kitchen.
I only grow the giants for the competition, not to eat because I find them too watery.
The school could use one for a "guess the weight" competition!
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Twoflower on April 01, 2009, 08:08:38
When you say grow them up canes, do you mean like beans? If you do this do you have to support the fruit?
I grow them up canes every year and have never supported the fruit.  Even really heavy ones like this Blue Banana don't need it.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Aragona/squash/2006_0806july060007a.jpg)
You need to have a strong frame, not a wigwam and obviously, you don't grow something like Atlantic Giant up canes!  ;D


That's amazing i had thought you would need support. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Jeannine on April 01, 2009, 08:39:48
Hi, the best thing to do is completely forget about last year. I normally grow 30 or 40 types of squash each year.. it is my passion as many of you know.. but last year was the worst year I have ever tried to grow in and was a dead loss in this area, some areas were OK but many suffered the same problem.Enjpy this year, my gut feeling is it will be a good year.

Tips. don't start them too early unless you can keep them in a warm greenhouse,pot them on frequently until you are in bucket size containers. I did that with many of the hard to mature ones  and also with melons but it takes up a lot of space.

My personal preference is well rotted manure, then black plastic about a month before planting out, it warms the soil a few degrees and helps a lot.Don't overcrowd them, they will be puny plants if you do and will struggle, really give them the space they need, it is better to plant less plants and get good yeilds

Plant good strong healthy plants at the right time into warm  fertile soil with lots of room and you should be just fine.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: 1066 on April 01, 2009, 08:53:46
Thanks Jeannine, I didn't bother to keep potting them on last year, and I think they spent the 1st month in the ground sulking, so I will defo give that a try. having read lots of posts (yours included) on this forum I had planned the old horse muck and black plastic for my 10 to 12 varieties on a new patch of ground.
And lets hope you are right about a ssshhhhh good summer
1066
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Ishard on April 20, 2009, 05:48:38
Of course we are going to have a good summer this year as my Granny/Grandad/milkman or local butcher told me that if the rooks nested at the top of trees then then summer will be hot,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AND THEY ARE!!!!  ;D


hehehe I thought I hadnt got any pumpkin seeds so bought a few packets, I now have 15 mostly of the same variety.

I think it was a senior moment.   ;)
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 20, 2009, 13:10:33
Let's hope this year is an improvemnt on last year's washout! It couldn't be worse.
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: Ishard on May 04, 2009, 05:54:10
This year Im going to grow all my squashes and pumkins like this;

Dig a hole  (save the soil) approx 15/19" in circumference, 12" deep, pile up with horse muck then place a tyre on/around the pile then on to the pile then add back the soil. I will then be left with a mound in which I plant.
Most tyres will be spaced 2 foot apart. Larger varieties may be planted in a stack of 2 tyres.

Last year I planted them all in raised beds but it took up too much space and I can place the tyres on the edges of my main plot as well as my raised bed plot.

The only exception to this method will be my melons and they are being planted in a raised bed with plastic wrapped around it (sort of green house effect)

Each squash/pumpkin/melon will have a plastic pipe (skip dived for these) inserted into th ground at the side of them for watering down.
Title: Re: Squash - help to grow!
Post by: saddad on May 04, 2009, 22:58:22
Keep us informed as to how it goes...  :)
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