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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Lauren S on January 22, 2009, 15:29:09
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Last year I had a terrible time germinating parsnips. I followed instructions on how to pre germinate on paper towel, I even had them in the airing cupboard. I sowed 4 packets and got a total of 4 parsnips for my efforts.
What I would like to know is...
1. When do you sow yours?
2. Do you pre chit them?
3. Do you sow direct, with good results?
4. When exactly do you start them off?
5. Would I be better off starting them off in loo tubes in a propagator?
Yes I have bought fresh seed for this year again, but only two packets as I'm going succeed this year :D (With your help).
Thanks in advance
Lauren :)
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The only reason they do not germinate well in the traditional manner is because the seed is old. You may well buy fresh packets each year but the seed is old. Traditional method of sowing was to put 3-4 seeds together every 4" down the drill and sprinkle radish seed between.
Radishes germinate quickly and mark the rows to enable light weeding while the multiple seeds at each position allowed for a few duds. If more than one parsnip germinates these are thinned to the single strongest or best positioned seedling.
Parsnip seed can be germinated in a pot and transplanted but great skill and care is required not to break or bend the taproot.
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i agree with Eristics method above. i have always done it this way and it seems to work fine, but i do think that you can have good and bad 'snip years. i wouldnt sow them too early either. i really dont thinkthey need pre chitting or starting off in modules.
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Eristic re your advice would you then say it would be to our advantage to allow one or two plants to flower so as to collect the seed for sowing the next year?
I'm going to attempt parsnips for the first time this year. do you know if they self sow, cause if they do i might grow a few in my herb patch and allow them to colonise a small area so as to collect fresh seed every year.
does this sound plausible, cause I'm not sure if I'm making sense :-\.
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there are of course also seed shops who sell fresh seed.
real seeds is one.
http://www.realseeds.co.uk/
thifasmom i know you werent asking me but i would keep my own seeds
do have a look at real seeds the have seed saving info as well
lbb
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Sowed most of mine straight into the ground around the end of March last year with mixed results. Those that germinated grew beautifully, but a lot did not germinate. Might try sowing a bit later this year.
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Last year I chitted them on kitchen towel then sowed them 3 to a loo tube. Removed the weaker seedlings and planted the tube and all when big enough. Had the best crop yet.
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pre chitted like asbean, popped straight in the ground, every one grew ;D
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Last year I chitted my parsnip seed in a tupperware box on top of the radiator and had FANTASTIC results, best ever huge parsnips ;D The previous year I did badly having just sown seed in the ground so I know which method I will use again. Having said that I agree with Sarah's comment about having good and bad parsnip years, don't we find that with other crops too.
My blog has the entry about chitting parsnip seeds 2008 here ... http://fork-in-hell.blogspot.com/2008/04/spring-has-sprung.html
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I always seem to do well with my nips, a lot of people sow them too early when the soil is too cold, I do mine first weekend in April, I make a drill with a long piece of wood and sow straight in the ground and cover with a dark compost and water, the dark compost stands out against the soil so I have no need to mark the line. ;D ;D ;D
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glosterwomble, just read your link about chitting parsnips and read about your wallpaper in the shed from seed packets. I think you could be on to a good idea if seed packets were made into a proper wallpaper, then seed addicts could have it in their bedrooms and go to sleep happy, dreaming of all those seeds. Could do veg and flowers in coordinated colours, and perhaps matching fabric for curtains, duvets etc. I think you are on to a winner, or perhaps just different varieites of say tomatoes, squashes, or perhaps it has already been done!!!!
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Last year I chitted them on kitchen towel then sowed them 3 to a loo tube. Removed the weaker seedlings and planted the tube and all when big enough. Had the best crop yet.
Me too! Sown mid feb like this.
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very similar to cornykev, here's mine in early may
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direct sow into a very firm drill, pressed in with a broom handle, water the drill (only) with a seaweed solution, sow thinly, cover and firm in. what's the problem?
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glosterwomble, just read your link about chitting parsnips and read about your wallpaper in the shed from seed packets. I think you could be on to a good idea if seed packets were made into a proper wallpaper, then seed addicts could have it in their bedrooms and go to sleep happy, dreaming of all those seeds. Could do veg and flowers in coordinated colours, and perhaps matching fabric for curtains, duvets etc. I think you are on to a winner, or perhaps just different varieites of say tomatoes, squashes, or perhaps it has already been done!!!!
WOW!! Yes, I'm going to go and patent that idea right now!! ;D ;)
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It's certainly been done with Veg/fruit tableclothes at Dunelms... ;D
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Loo rolls in heated propagator for me, then into offcuts of soil pipe about a foot long, filled with compost; did em I think in early May last year. Cleanest and most consistent crop I've had yet.
Will do them earlier this year, maybe late Feb.
I've previously had very erratic germination, even with fresh seed - maybe too early/soil too cold. Problem was, the later, better sowings were too late to get to any real size (I'm on clay, pretty slow to warm up).
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there are of course also seed shops who sell fresh seed.
real seeds is one.
http://www.realseeds.co.uk/
thifasmom i know you werent asking me but i would keep my own seeds
do have a look at real seeds the have seed saving info as well
lbb
thanks LLB so saving my own seed is the way to go to acquire for sure fresh seed.
does anyone know if they do selfseed ???
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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v401/richardkinson/?action=view¤t=5474f590.jpg
Hope this works and you can see pic. I too never seem to have trouble with parsnips think the secret is as corny says do not sow to early.
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From reading the posts, it seems that parsnips like a bit of warmth. Would it be beneficial to sow under clotches? I've not grown them before and decided to have a go this year.
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Parsnip seed is fertile Thifasmom, but being umbelliferas they can be pollinated by other parsnips in the area. The trick is to choose good examples to save the seed from. "The Student" was i think the first "selection" in Victorian times from the "wild" parsnip... avoid the very modern F1's like gladiator...
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Parsnip seed is fertile Thifasmom, but being umbelliferas they can be pollinated by other parsnips in the area. The trick is to choose good examples to save the seed from. "The Student" was i think the first "selection" in Victorian times from the "wild" parsnip... avoid the very modern F1's like gladiator...
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i'm having a duh moment, when you say Parsnip seed is fertile
do you mean they selfseed themselves or were you explaining something else. i don't think I'll have to worry about them cross pollinating with others as only my neighbour grows them and he has never let them flower.
I'll have to check which variety I've got it was a small pack from one of the swaps (i think they were saved seed but will have to double check).
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I've had decent results saving seed from Tender and True. :)
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The seed can cross pollinate with wild ones... over some distance. The seeds will then produce thinner roots. :-X
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ok i understand now :).
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I know everyone says it is a bit too early to sow parsnips but I germinated some on tissue to check if they were still viable. They were and I couldn't resist planting them in a tray. Will they grow all right do you think?
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Trays are not really suitable. you really need at least 4-6 inches depth of soil to keep them going for about 3 weeks.
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drat. Oh well start again.
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Had great results from pre chitting on kitchen roll even from 3 year old seed !!! you dont waste time or compost on no viable seeds :D
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Last year I chitted them on kitchen towel then sowed them 3 to a loo tube. Removed the weaker seedlings and planted the tube and all when big enough. Had the best crop yet.
I've used this method before adn will be doing so again this year... 3 seeds per tube, keep the big one, plant tubes out at sensible gapping in March/early April
chrisc
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hiya, chriscross, welcome to the site ;D
we do the same ,without the loo roll tubes
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Wotcha chriscross! welcome to the site!! ;)
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Parsnips need to be kept moist to germinate.
When i sow mine i put a layer of kitchen roll paper in the bottom of a trench and sow direct onto it before covering with compost...works a treat ;)
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1. When do you sow yours?
2. Do you pre chit them?
3. Do you sow direct, with good results?
4. When exactly do you start them off?
5. Would I be better off starting them off in loo tubes in a propagator?
The parsnip debate rages on. I had trouble with my parsnips the first year I got my plots but I took the advise of the old boys around me who all had lovely parsnips.
Quoting from a previous post that can be found here...
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,47893.msg483457.html#msg483457
I Love parsnips... Some people sniff glue, I could sit and sniff a parsnip all day.
The old boy next to me has lovely parsnips so I asked how he grew them. He said "I just scrape a drill through the frost in February and drop the seeds in".
So last February I followed his advice. I've had parsnips with every roast dinner since and still got enough to last until next Christmas. Some have forked but the vast majority are perfectly parsnip shaped.
I read in a post somewhere about Fenland soil, I'm on lovely dark crumbly Fenland soil so maybe that helps.
No fancy scientific germination methods, no artificial colours or preservatives, I just slapped them in the ground.
I used Mr Fothergills seed if that helps.