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Title: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: jo9919 on November 01, 2008, 18:21:40
I have decided that next year I am going to grow mainly cherry sized tomatoes as they get eaten more than the normal sized ones.

I'm not keen on the beefsteak type tomatoes, so although I am growing mostly cherry sized ones, I am going to grow only one normal sized one. Therefore, the one that I am going to grow has to be 'quality'.

So, if you could grow only one normal sized tomato, which would it be?

I'm looking forward to the responses on this  :D

Jo.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: manicscousers on November 01, 2008, 18:27:53
tough one, this, but I love tigerella, lovely taste and so pretty  ;D
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: valmarg on November 01, 2008, 20:11:14
Arrrgh, no can do.

Love the cherry varieties, but also love the beefsteak and plum varieties.

valmarg
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: kt. on November 02, 2008, 05:45:31
I have grown what I would like to think are deliscious tomatoes i the past but am going to try this wonderful looking 'strawberry-shaped' variety next year:

http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds1/product/891/1.html
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: tim on November 02, 2008, 08:59:13
Minefield - every variety is sweeter than sweet or your money back. And, of course, everything you grow is 'the best'?  But flavour can vary from bland to brilliant even within a truss.

After growing Santa for many years, with some success, I found Moles' Rosada this year. I shall put in a dozen next year. Excellent.

Otherwise, we have found Nectar early, prolific & flavoursome. This was even after being hit severely, with others, by Mildew. Came out well in RHS trials some years back.

Oh, & here is Rosada.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: manicscousers on November 02, 2008, 09:01:39
forgot about golden sunrise, early and prolific  :)
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Emagggie on November 02, 2008, 09:11:30
Gardeners Delight always deliver for me, and Santa too.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: cleo on November 02, 2008, 18:11:50
So, if you could grow only one normal sized tomato, which would it be?

Black Russian-but if you don`t like your toms with a `complex` flavour then Nepal
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Eristic on November 02, 2008, 21:28:10
If I could only grow one variety it would have to be Aurora, early, good all rounder and true from seed. A second choice would be my Bulgarian plum tom even if it is not as blight resistant as I had hoped.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: saddad on November 02, 2008, 22:17:34
yes, my trial succumbed to blight eventually, sorry for not getting back to you on that. Like Tigrella I would grow Tangella if you could find it, or RED PEACH, which has a furry skin... both HSL...  ;D
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: kt. on November 03, 2008, 05:01:17
Tim - After looking at your pictures of the Rosada I think I may well grow that and as my new variety skip the Berry F1.  The yields look so much more. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: tim on November 03, 2008, 09:23:37
Caveat, KT!

The half truss is Nectar - can't find a proper photo of it. nThe 2nd is Rosada - nothing like so productive, but very solid  - http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42451.0;attach=22480;image
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: kt. on November 03, 2008, 09:50:22
So Tim,  would you say the Nectar is better than the  Rosada in terms of yields and reliability? 
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: tim on November 03, 2008, 12:46:32
Different kettle of fish, KT. Daughter really only likes mini-Plums. And they freeze better than Cherries. Certainly better than Santa - for which it is a replacement.

But Nectar's yield is better - as you can see from the half truss spared by the blight. And although many Sweet Million type Cherries have bigger trusses, Nectar's fruits are more substantial.

Reliability? My first year with Rosada.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Barnowl on November 03, 2008, 15:38:39
I grew both this year, Rosada for the first time (think I heard about it from you, Tim). The Rosada seemed to tough out the blight better than Nectar but Nectar was earlier yielding and had a heavier crop. I was also impressed by Rudolph - similar to Rosada but larger fruit. I think it's meant to replace Juliet.

I know I'm going to get into trouble for this  :)  but with regard to conventional tomatoes you can't go far wrong with Shirley F1. That and Fantasio F1 (new to me) will be my only conventional medium sized round red ones this year.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: cleo on November 04, 2008, 15:22:06
I know I'm going to get into trouble for this    but with regard to conventional tomatoes you can't go far wrong with Shirley F1.

 ;D ;D ;D-A money maker dressed in expensive clothes.

When we are all long past our sell by dates this debate will go on-there is no `best` tomato only those we like as individuals
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Barnowl on November 04, 2008, 16:33:19
I know I'm going to get into trouble for this    but with regard to conventional tomatoes you can't go far wrong with Shirley F1.

 ;D ;D ;D-A money maker dressed in expensive clothes.

:)
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Deb P on November 04, 2008, 16:56:11
yes, my trial succumbed to blight eventually, sorry for not getting back to you on that. Like Tigrella I would grow Tangella if you could find it, or RED PEACH, which has a furry skin... both HSL...  ;D

Is that similar to 'Fuzzy'? I've just picked a few in the greenhouse, plants getting to be on their last legs now... :-\ Very pretty fruits though, and good taste.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: realfood on November 04, 2008, 18:58:48
I found that tangella had a poor flavour and was prone to blight, even in a greenhouse. Not a patch on either of it's parents!
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: saddad on November 04, 2008, 19:13:27
Probably Deb... BTW I have arranged for a woman who does composting displays to come to the Open Days next year..   ;D
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Deb P on November 05, 2008, 12:37:33
Someone does composting displays! This I want to see! ;D

Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: markfield rover on November 05, 2008, 13:27:40
Red Alert (bush) is tasty .
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Eristic on November 05, 2008, 18:06:10
I'm an expert compost maker. How much do I get to demonstrate the Moriati method?
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: saddad on November 05, 2008, 19:37:51
Sorry Eristic... that one's lost on me.....  ???
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Eristic on November 05, 2008, 20:04:18
I thought someone was earning a living going round the country demonstrating compost making.

I'm an opportunist always looking for a fast buck. ;D
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: saddad on November 06, 2008, 07:59:30
She does, works for WRAP (Waste and Resources Action Programme) www.wrap.org.uk don't know who pays her wages but we don't...  :-\
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Barnowl on November 06, 2008, 11:01:49
As WRAP is government funded I think we tax payers  do pay her wages - but I'm sure she's worth it .....
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: euronerd on November 06, 2008, 15:44:26
Back to toms for a minute  ;D urbikany does very well for me. Yields are very good but they can be an odd shape. This year I picked a load while they were still green and I'm still eating them now as they ripen. Mine came from Realseeds. Tigerella would be my second choice, but you said one, didn't you?

Geoff.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Barnowl on November 06, 2008, 15:51:25
It does have a serious sprawling habit and the taste isn't the best but Urbikany have been an early and steady producer throughout the season for me for the last two years.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: torquil on November 06, 2008, 16:42:13
hi all             probably disagree with some, what about the good old standby like moneymaker and of course shirley, take some beating for flavour. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: cleo on November 06, 2008, 17:24:46
what about the good old standby like moneymaker and of course shirley, take some beating for flavour.   

I agree-beat them with a mallet at least ;D
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: jo9919 on November 17, 2008, 21:10:51
Thanks everyone. There's plenty of idea's there for me.

Jo.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: Melbourne12 on November 18, 2008, 19:20:55
I'm torn between Tigerella and its parent Ailsa Craig.

I think on balance I'd choose Tigerella.  Not quite such a good flavour as AC for my taste, but heavier cropping and more reliable.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: dc2 on November 19, 2008, 15:14:05
For an easy to look after tom and tasty don,t think you can beat tumbler .
I only know one place that stocks them now though , google Nickys seeds .
when big enough stick them in a hanging basket feed and water , thats it .
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: northener on November 19, 2008, 16:23:12
Golden Sunrise for me closely followed by Tigerella, i love the Tigerella taste but find the skin a bit tough. Going to try a new one this year so watching this thread.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: jo9919 on November 19, 2008, 16:42:42
There's so many replies saying Tigerella.

Actually this is one of the tomatoes which I have grown for the last couple of years, but like Northener I find the skin a little tough, and Melbourne12 also mentions Ailsa Craig, but I find the same with this too.

Any recommendations for a tomato with a thin skin?

Jo.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: portsmouth30 on November 19, 2008, 16:48:03
I always grow sungold, find it produces loads of fruit right thru the season. Am trying 100's&1000's this year
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: dc2 on November 19, 2008, 16:57:36
I always grow sungold, find it produces loads of fruit right thru the season. Am trying 100's&1000's this year
I tried these this year and would only say try it if you like really thick skinned and tasteless toms [ worst small tom I have tried ]
For small toms I have not found one better than tumberler
from Nick's seeds   :)
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: jo9919 on November 23, 2008, 22:01:46
Anyone else? 1204 people have looked, surely there must be some other idea's?

Jo.
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: thegreatgardener on November 24, 2008, 04:15:34
Sorry, I have not posted my suggestions yet; because I was waiting for usual boring junk varieties to be suggested, before posting my suggestions.
The only exception posted so far is sungold.

If you want   the best I Suggest you pick from one from this list below:
In no particular order of greatness:
Delicious,Rutgers, big beef,porterhouse ,Big Zac, supersteak,beefsteak,
bullsheart, and Brandywine Sudduth.
 
 
Title: Re: Tomato Idea's Please
Post by: flossy on November 24, 2008, 09:10:07


  I haven't had much experience with tomato varieties, and look forward to experimenting
 
  more next year  A great selection here for me to choose from  --  brill     ;D

  A bit of ' shock horror ' I expect, as I bought some Piccolo toms on the vine [ good old Coop

  yellow ticket ] --  almost cherry size and the flavour and sweetness were terrific !

  Have kept some by to save the seeds in the way I was taught on A4A     :-*

  Thanks for that,

  floss xxx
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