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Produce => Under Glass => Topic started by: GrannieAnnie on October 23, 2008, 22:31:11
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Have a few pics to download. This has an interior of 6x11 ft. all of used lumber, insulation, and used windows. I did have to purchase plywood, roof shingles, pavers and bolts. I'm doing all the work myself except hubby had to help raise the main beam and corner posts. It has been beautiful weather for hammering, drilling and sawing outside- I could not have asked for better (we've been in a drought here) but now the frost has come so I'm eager to get some lettuce under glass.
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/nonrancher/studsrafters.jpg)
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that looks really good, grannieannie, it'll be interesting watching it as it fills up with plants :)
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That looks fabulous GA, oh winter lettuce and other winter salads......yummy ;D ;D ;D
Well done you ;)
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Cannot wait to see the stages of this project.
Good Luck :)
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I'm well impressed! 8)
Hope you've been able to crack on this weekend - and hope to see more pix too?
Regards.
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/nonrancher/Shingle1.jpg)
I'm shingling in the rain
Just shingling in the rain.
What a glorious feeling
I'm happy again....
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hey Annie! Seriously impressed now 8) It has to be asked, tho...how tall are you - or what sort of monster lettuces are you planning? ;)
Is all the shingling done now - I'm presuming that the other side of the roof will be glass?
Thanks for the updated pix..you're really cracking on 8)
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I have something similar with a greenhouse missing all the glass and metal frames on one side. In my case the "empty" side is attached the brick of my allotment shed.
Are you going to paint the back, wooden wall. It could be painted white or covered with cooking foil to reflect heat and light back, or perhaps matt black to act as a heat sink. I'm wondering whether to do something like this for my 'house.
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I have something similar with a greenhouse missing all the glass and metal frames on one side. In my case the "empty" side is attached the brick of my allotment shed.
Are you going to paint the back, wooden wall. It could be painted white or covered with cooking foil to reflect heat and light back, or perhaps matt black to act as a heat sink. I'm wondering whether to do something like this for my 'house.
Yesterday I fell off the ladder. Or the ladder fell off me. So, no, the shingling isn't finished yet- it has been pouring. Today I elected to stay on terra ferma- dug a 16 inch deep trench along the front of the house and inserted insulation to keep the heat loss down. Slippery clay with blue rocks- messy job but want to do all the sides before a freeze if possible. If not, there is always next season... Yesterday I also broke the table saw. Not a good day come to think of it. I was trying to shave down some window frames so they interlock better.
The ceiling I'll do In foil I think. Also have an old mirror and thinking of mounting it on the ceiling if it fits. It should reflect the light back down on the plants, not out the window. The back will have lots of black jugs/tubs of water piled up. I have some tar paper left so might cover the insulation with it along the back wall to absorb heat. My carpentry skills are limited so there are many gaps- will be blocking leaks all winter me thinks ::)
I do love this project though. Just so it doesn't kill me! ;D
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Hope you were not to high and also you did not hurt yourself no doubt the bruises will come out in the morning.
Grannie can i put some some pictures on your thread of the greenhouse i am building at the moment.
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Sure, put all you want on. I doubt any will be confused with my questionable attempt!
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/nonrancher/grnhsdoor.jpg)
o door up today- ned to find a catch still, but it swings- a real miracle!
o windows in- a bit scary up the ladder but didn't fall in. One mistake I made
was shingling the roof ridge before putting the windows in- had to disconnect
the shingles which they didn't take kindly.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/nonrancher/windowsinnov1.jpg)
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looks amazing !!!
Is that just normal glass???
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looks amazing !!!
Is that just normal glass???
Normal window glass; most are double. I'm missing one and one hasn't been put up yet.
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ok probably missing something but how is it solar?
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ok probably missing something but how is it solar?
It has a long way to go before it can be called solar. Still to do:
o finish sides which are totally open and install automatic air vent which does not require electricity
o weather strip the door and insulate the glass
o dig insulation down to frost line on 3 more sides and mound up dirt- have to get this done before hard frost!!!
o clad exterior with used redwood
o insulate interior between studs with builder's leftover scraps and foam insulation
o put foil on ceiling to reflect light back down to plants
o fill back wall completely with containers of water- if I can keep this cold frame about 40 degrees F. min. I'll be pleased. The water is supposed to prevent wild swings in temp. including not too hot in the day. The goal is not to grow tropicals- just to keep cold weather greens going
o cover inside of windows with clear insulator plastic- going to try some that people put on top of swimming pool water to keep the heat in
o red brick pavers
o raised soil high in humus
o lettuce seedlings!
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Annie! Respec!!! 8)
Questions...it all looks SO professional, it surely can't be your 1st attempt at construction?
Are the glass panes surplus to requirements from another project in your house?
What clips/bonding matter are you using?
What's your time-frame before your Big Freeze sets in?
Oh, and please....keep the pix coming - and be careful on the ladder, OK?
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Cambourne...the clue is in the word. Sun=Solar!
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Annie! Respec!!! 8)
Questions...it all looks SO professional, it surely can't be your 1st attempt at construction?
Are the glass panes surplus to requirements from another project in your house?
What clips/bonding matter are you using?
What's your time-frame before your Big Freeze sets in?
Oh, and please....keep the pix coming - and be careful on the ladder, OK?
Don't get too enthralled. This looks irregular and homemade, definitely a project from scraps. For example the only place I could put the door- you won't believe this ;D- has an upright running through the doorway! As long as I don't gain any weight I can squeeze through! There were only materials for a shallow house which presents major difficulties.
I put up studs and finished a room once while hubby was away- this isn't so different from that except dealing with all the angles and the height of the project.
The windows came from different friends and some from our house. There are clips holding on the storm windows and I built frames around two windows, one is on the side now and took me most of this morning trying to figure out how to do it. ::)
Could have some freezing up in Nov but probably not til Dec. Thank you for your encouraging words.
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Fantastic job GA, i WAS WONDERING.........DO YA FANCY A HOLIDAY IN THE uk, mIDLANDS TO BE MORE PRECISE....................(oh, flippin caps lock again. Sorry) ::) ::)
We do a great English brekky ;D ;D ;D 8)
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Cambourne...the clue is in the word. Sun=Solar!
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yes i got that but i could not understand what makes this different from a normal greenhouse :)
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Cambourne...the clue is in the word. Sun=Solar!
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yes i got that but i could not understand what makes this different from a normal greenhouse :)
It is a confusing term. The difference is that greenhouses usually require electric heating whereas I planned to only try to keep this frost free using the sun and storing a little of its energy. That said, it dawned on me it would be lovely to have the option of plugging in a lamp so I've roped my husband, poor guy who wanted nothing to do with my madness, into installing an electrical outlet.
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An update on walk-in solar coldframe and picture:(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/nonrancher/insulation.jpg)
Began insulating with odds and ends from a builder (30R nice!)
and some used masonite(?) board to go over that-
one side of board has a water proof coating but not sure how well
it will do in humidity. The outside siding has gone very slowly due
to pouring rain. What I did put up (during the deluge) came out
slanted-imagine that! I :o know! so it looksmore than a bit wonky.
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Amazing what you can do after a sugar-rush of choclit ;D
Looking good! - all the insulation's most impressive 8)
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Amazing what you can do after a sugar-rush of choclit ;D
You aren't kidding! The chocolate really did give me lots of energy. I should have
invested in 10 lbs of chocolates last month and this project might have been finished.
(if you eat 10 lbs of chocolates do you only gain 10 lbs?)
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Hi Grannie Annie, your building is very impressive indeed. I can see money is no object for this project. Dont know where your site is but the SLO's/Contractor would not allow such a building where i am as we/ the thought police, only allow buidings up 6X8. You're quite lucky.
You call it a cold house ? Doesnt look like it will be that at all.Well done.
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grannie annie is a few thousand miles to the west of kingston!!
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Hi Grannie Annie, your building is very impressive indeed. I can see money is no object for this project. Dont know where your site is but the SLO's/Contractor would not allow such a building where i am as we/ the thought police, only allow buidings up 6X8. You're quite lucky.
You call it a cold house ? Doesnt look like it will be that at all.Well done.
Money is no object??? This is mainly all recycled lumber, old siding and old windows and scraps of insulation and used ceiling masonite. Did have to buy some plywood, shingles and brick, but still not coming close to the cost of a new greenhouse. Lots of free exercise, too. 8)
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grannie annie is a few thousand miles to the west of kingston!!
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i take it she's not a local gal then.
Its still impressive tho'
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/nonrancher/coldframelettuce.jpg)
Freezing and blustery outside ( -7 C) but sufficiently warm (5 C) in this unheated structure enough to keep the lettuce coming. Also, one very tiny green pepper (at base of thermometer) but I've pruned the plant down to just a stem since the pepper leaves have wilted now.
Lettuces: Deer's Tongue, Winter Density, Fun Jen....., Baby Romaine.
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well done GrannieAnnie !!
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Wow how fab! Well done you! ;) Could you post a pic of the coldframe now? I'm so impressed and jealous!!!
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Wow how fab! Well done you! ;) Could you post a pic of the coldframe now? I'm so impressed and jealous!!!
Emmy, it still looks exactly like the picture shown on the first page labeled Nov 1 in red- except the ladder is gone. I still haven't added another window pane to the top row where the double window is missing and there still is no electricity out to it.
Also, I still need more water containers inside but what I have seems to so far be adequate. My son gets recycled lidded tubs from work which I paint black.
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I'm so impressed-now that IS girl power! ;)