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Title: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Eristic on August 28, 2008, 02:02:39
Has anyone ever sown parsnip at this time of the year?

I've just done a germination test of my parsnip seeds and now have a potful of emerging seedlings and was wondering if it would be worthwhile planting them out. Will they make early roots or simply run straight to flower?

If left to nature those seeds that I harvested would have been scattered to the winds over the past few weeks and left to germinate at their own pace, probably in early spring.
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Tyke on August 28, 2008, 07:48:20
I sowed my parsnips at the end of June (the very end of the recommended period on the packet) and i am not sure that they have germinated yet. Do you have a photo of the seedlings so that i don't weed them out??

I planted them late-ish and so put them a bit closer together, assuming that the growing period would be shorter and i would have smaller parsnips....They are supposed to be hardy and tolerate frost well
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on August 28, 2008, 11:18:13
This is what I'm thinking. I'm so sick of germination problems I may keep a couple for seed, and try planting them while the seed is still fresh.
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: rosebud on August 28, 2008, 12:29:07
When is the official time to sow parsnips as i want to grow them for the first time, at the correct time.  Anyone please.
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: jonny211 on August 28, 2008, 12:46:42
I sowed mine in April but as we know it can still snow etc. I sowed three or four seeds at each station and still some didn't germinate so keep some seeds back to fill any germination gaps.

It's gutting to have to thin them after all the trouble you go to!
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Tyke on August 28, 2008, 19:04:37
When is the official time to sow parsnips as i want to grow them for the first time, at the correct time.  Anyone please.

depends on the variety. Most need to be in the ground in the first half of the year, but i believe that there are some you can put in iin the autumn - might appear in shops when new season seeds appear...
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: cornykev on August 28, 2008, 19:12:36
Sow from late Feb until the end of May, harvesting from Oct until Feb. I sowed mine on Apr 3rd and had harvested the year befores a week before I sowed these. I pulled some last week and froze some and give a few away, so I don't know what they taste like yet, but they are best left until the cold spell which enhances their taste.I'm no expert but knowing they need a long growing season 8/9 months, I would say its too late as they will probably stop growing as the weather gets colder, I may be wrong so someone else may give us better advise, well that's my three pennith anyway.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: tonybloke on August 28, 2008, 22:40:42
most of the seed hang on the plant until the spring.Some fall in the autumn, and may germinate, but if it was a feasible option don't you think the commercial growers would be at it? ;)
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Amazin on August 28, 2008, 22:43:10
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i believe that there are some you can put in iin the autumn

I wonder if it would work with seeds of mini-parsnips - they might get away with a shorter growing period as they're smaller. I have some 'Dagger' seeds left over. Oh what the hell, I'll give it a go. Nothing ventured, eh?...

 :)
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Eristic on August 28, 2008, 23:09:14
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most of the seed hang on the plant until the spring.Some fall in the autumn, and may germinate, but if it was a feasible option don't you think the commercial growers would be at it?

You are mistaken. The seeds started to shed from my plants towards the end of July when I harvested the bulk of the seed.

Commercial growers do as they are told, whereas I was wondering what would happen if small plants overwintered? I must presume from the total lack of experienced replies that nobody has actually done this or know of anyone having sown and overwintered therefore once again I will have to be the plonker that tries it.

I have a bucket full of seed and will be sowing my maincrop of parsnip around mid Feb, as I have always done along with my father, grandfather, great-grandfather etc. but I have a potful of seedlings going to waste and was wondering how they would fare.

Commercial growers would also be unable to get their paws on fresh seed this early and I doubt that there would be any benefit from sowing in late November against February sowing.
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Amazin on August 28, 2008, 23:32:05
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I must presume from the total lack of experienced replies that nobody has actually done this or know of anyone having sown and overwintered therefore once again I will have to be the plonker that tries it.

Did our posts cross Eristic? I think you'll find if anyone's going to be a plonker round here, it'll be me, d'you hear? ME!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: kitty on August 29, 2008, 08:20:03
amazins' always right! ;)
i think with the seasons being so topsyturvy thes days we have to do lots more experimenting-and the seedlings have two chances right?
i intend to bung in what evers left in my seed box...think i'll give the melons a miss tho...-after all-how does a carrot seed know i've missed the 'closing date'for sowing?
kitty
xx
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: tonybloke on August 29, 2008, 13:28:00
"after all-how does a carrot seed know i've missed the 'closing date'for sowing?"
Day / Night length, soil temperature, angle of sun......Plants are responsive to many factors! ;)
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: loopyloulou on August 29, 2008, 14:23:28
some of those factors are changing tho, ok so not day length or angle of the sun but weather and therefore soil temps, ive beaten u all to it n chucked some seeds in  begining of this month, i think theyre germinating theyre as quick as carrots (lol!) but im thinking as u say nothing ventured... id say as the seedlings would go to waste anyways theres no harm in chucking em in if youve got the space and see how it goes? just so long as u share ur experience with us! only time will tell i guess  ;D
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Amazin on August 29, 2008, 23:21:26
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Plants are responsive to many factors!

Yes, but are the day/ night length and angle of the sun factors affected by weeks on end of overcast, cloudy weather?

I'll give it a go anyway - if all else fails, I'm sure MY plants will respond to a stern talking to.

 ;D
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: kitty on August 30, 2008, 08:11:25
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[Day / Night length, soil temperature, angle of sun......Plants are responsive to many factors/quote]
yes-and these are all over the place these days!!!so-experimentation needed!! ;D

if i was on the receiving end of one of amazins'stern talking to i' d buck meself up and grow tootsweet! ;)
kitty
xx
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: star on August 30, 2008, 10:27:25
 ;D ;D ;D ;D I think I'll ask you to get yourself up here Amazin and have a word with my stuff, your plants thrive lovely  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Kingfisher on August 30, 2008, 10:39:04
Hi all, I have sown carrots mid August, the packet said July, they seem to be coming along fine, I am going to try some other stuff, will let you all know how I get on.
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: loopyloulou on August 30, 2008, 21:01:51
i think id better get in line then, my stuff needs a stern talking to too! and the slugs a big telling off!!  >:(
amazin help!!!!  ;D please!!!
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Amazin on August 30, 2008, 23:29:28
Blimey! I'm a consultant!

Now, let's discuss my fees...

 ;D
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Eristic on August 31, 2008, 01:31:50
I've only got parsnip, beetroot or Zimbabwe cabbage seed. What will you take prof.?
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Amazin on September 01, 2008, 01:54:02
Fully grown?

 ;D
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Eristic on September 01, 2008, 01:59:24
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Fully grown?

Is that me or the seeds?
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: alipally on September 01, 2008, 05:56:52
Plants do seem to know when its time to grow, how they do this, I don't know.  I tried planting garlic in the spring but it has only just started to show any sign of life and second early potatoes I planted too late last year began showing signs of life at exactly the same time as the one I planted in April this year, weird - how do they know?  It is certainly worth experimenting with the climate change though, I will try the parsnips but maybe cloche them to give them a longer warm season.

As for germination, I chitted my parsnip seed this year and had great results, I obviously only sowed the seed that had sprouted - less than half of them -  meaning I had no thinning out and could space exactly where I wanted them.  I haven't harvested yet, I'm waiting for a frost to get to them but they look good.

It will be interesting to see what happens,
Ali
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Amazin on September 03, 2008, 00:09:51
I find that the more mature the material, the less need for the lecturing - unless particularly wilful of course...

 ;D

Curious about the Zimbabwean cabbage... any particular qualities/ differences?
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Eristic on September 03, 2008, 02:29:19
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Curious about the Zimbabwean cabbage... any particular qualities/ differences?

Grows more like a branching kale plant than the heading cabbage we are used to. Once plants get about a foot or so high the leaves are simply plucked off as required leaving just the top few leaves. There is every probability its parentage was exported from this country as seed by the Rhodesian settlers and the African natives have taken to it as a staple crop they propagate by cuttings. My friend acquired some of these cuttings after being sneaked back home last year.

These grew well, were harvested on a weekly basis until the winter when they were abandoned until the weather warmed up. Meantime, they took the winter in their stride and ran to flower in the spring. I harvested the seed, tested it then grew a trayful which I took back to the lady and demanded that she plant them and grow them out as compensation for my trouble.  8)
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: Eristic on September 28, 2008, 01:09:19
Just a quick progress report while the forum is quiet.

(http://downtheplot.com/images/autumn_sown_parsnip.jpg)

Plants are now transplanted to their growing quarters and if they survive the slugs over the next few weeks they should be fine for the winter period. What will happen in the spring though? Will they produce nice early parsnips or run straight up to seed?

The slugs seem to walk straight past them at the moment and line up to window shop at the beetroot in the bottles. ::)
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: PurpleHeather on September 28, 2008, 06:44:49
I did try to grow some late on one year. They went dormant over winter and then did not recover in Spring. The bigger ones I tried to use had huge middle bits which are tough part and no outer bits, it came off with the peel. Fine for adding to soup perhaps.

Commercial gardeners can artificially recreate warmth and light. But I understand that a lot of the vegetables in the shops we imagine home grown are actually imported.

I have just found room to plant out some leeks which are the size of spring onions at the moment. I expect that they will bolt but you never know. The land is doing nothing else.

I would suggest that if you had some cloches and fleece, doing nothing you cover the parsnips with them. That might help to retard them going into the dormant stage, if they just keep growing you may get an edible crop in spring.




Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: greenhouse gertie on September 28, 2008, 22:31:11
Hi I sowed parsnip seed in may, they seemed to fail so i just threw the seed tray under my table in the greenhouse. looked under the table for something else yesterday, and there they were standing tall and firm, and just under the soil  i found little parsnips!! gonna plant them out on my lottie tomorrow... see what happens  :)
Title: Re: Autumn sown Parsnips
Post by: manicscousers on September 29, 2008, 14:44:01
hiya, gertie, wecome to the site..sounds like a good plan  ;D
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