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Title: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: OllieC on June 26, 2008, 10:08:00
Anyone found a good source of enviromesh? I need some for my later sowings of peas but haven't really got a spare £60 for 20m at the moment... (Harrods Horticulture prices)...

I bought some fleece once from SCATS & it fell apart after a month - completely lost all it's strength, so am a bit wary of cheap stuff, but surely someone must sell good stuff at good prices over the internet?

Thanks!

Ollie
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: Melbourne12 on June 26, 2008, 10:43:33
We like LBS Garden Warehouse for this sort of thing.  The good news is that they're much cheaper than HH.  The bad news is that you have to buy 100 metres. http://www.lbsgardenwarehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=R-HA&name=enviromesh&sfile=1&jump=0

They also sell 25g/m2 heavy duty fleece which is much cheaper than Enviromesh.  Obviously it won't last as long, but the initial investment is less painful.

Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: Duke Ellington on June 26, 2008, 10:51:20
Hi

I bought some agralan enviromesh the other day from my garden centre. It cost £9.00. It measures 10x6 feet! At the moment I cant afford buying huge amounts of enviromesh.
If you want a large amount of coverage try scaffold debris netting. I am getting good results with it at the moment over my brassica bed

Duke
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: manicscousers on June 26, 2008, 11:31:55
n a kays do some good stuff , reasonable prices, too  ;D
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: SMP1704 on June 26, 2008, 22:13:42
Ollie

I got mine from Dobies 2 packs for £34 10x2m each and then got another two packs for a Chrissie prezzie ;D

If it is for peas a 1cm net will do the trick
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: redimp on June 26, 2008, 22:48:43
Hi

I bought some agralan enviromesh the other day from my garden centre. It cost £9.00. It measures 10x6 feet! At the moment I cant afford buying huge amounts of enviromesh.
If you want a large amount of coverage try scaffold debris netting. I am getting good results with it at the moment over my brassica bed

Duke
I am a debris netting (from e-bay) user as well and cannot see me ever buying environmesh which at the quoted price works out five times more expensive than the debris netting (which, including postage, cost me less than £30 for 50mx2m).
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: northener on June 27, 2008, 07:05:32
When you say Debris netting is that the stuff they put round scaffold? Doed it let enough light and water through?
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: STEVEB on June 27, 2008, 07:46:36
When you say Debris netting is that the stuff they put round scaffold? Doed it let enough light and water through?

I use debris netting as a secondary cover lets through sufficient light and water,do you know any one in the building trade that could *borrow*some on a long term basis?
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: OllieC on June 27, 2008, 09:26:11
Thanks for the replies - another question to the debris netters - are you using debris netting for them to climb up or to stop pea moth? I thought it had great big holes in it!
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: tim on June 27, 2008, 11:09:56
http://www.kaysdiscountgarden.co.uk ?

A couple of thoughts:

1.   Cheap Fleece is not so durable.
2.   Cheap Mesh does not bar Flea Beetle. Better mesh is much heavier & hell to handle – slippery as a frog! All Mesh takes a lot of storage room.
3.   Debris Netting may not bar Cabbage Whites – the anchor slots are big enough for a CW to squirm though - see below.
4.   Fleece lies over seedlings happily – Netting flattens them.
5.   Mesh & Netting are more water permeable than Fleece.

Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: Duke Ellington on June 27, 2008, 13:08:22
I have had no cabbage white this year using debris netting~~I keep checking for caterpillars etc!! However using a sewing machine I stitched out the attachment holes with a seam~~~so no more attachment holes  ;D Debris netting lets sufficient water through!

Duke
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: tim on June 27, 2008, 16:54:22
There haven't been any CWs this year - thank God!!

Stitching? What devotion! How many holes are there in a roll 50m x 2m??
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: ceres on June 27, 2008, 17:20:54
I opened up my brassica nets yesterday to weed and one followed me in.  My neighbour had just let one out of his nets.  I guess we've got your share down here too then?
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: Duke Ellington on June 27, 2008, 17:37:29
Hello Tim....

It took me seconds to stitch by machine my netting to cover my 10x4 foot raised bed! I needed to get rid of the holes!!

Duke~~~dont let the name fool ya !! I am a lady  :P
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: shirlton on June 27, 2008, 17:37:53
 Got ours from Suttons seeds. 2 for about £30. I sew down the long sides to make a pocket for the canes to go through and then I thread thin wire through the ends and gather it up and tie. I do have to put some weights on it to keep the nosy foxes out but this year has done the job great
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: tim on June 27, 2008, 17:59:38
Great disguise, Duke!
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: Anne Robertson on June 27, 2008, 19:53:05
I ask the local farmers for theirs when they take it off their 1st earlies. It's 2.5 mts X as long as you want. They are alway happy to let me have as much as I want and I give them homemade produce as a thank you.
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: tim on June 28, 2008, 06:11:02
Environmesh or Fleece, Ani?
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: shirlton on June 28, 2008, 08:33:49
I can't see anyone giving enviromesh away. Can you Tim?
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: Anne Robertson on June 28, 2008, 10:45:13
oh, fleece, sorry got the two muddled up.
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: tim on June 28, 2008, 13:14:46
Whichever - a gift!
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: electric landlady on June 29, 2008, 20:12:34
I could not find enviromesh on sale anywhere, so am using old nylon net curtains over the brassicas instead, and this seems to be working out well so far.... they are white (ish - they are a bit muddy now) so let in lots of light, and watering through them does not seem to be a problem.

Plus I figure they should be cheap to replace when they fall apart - charity shops have tons of them usually.
Title: Re: Cheapest quality enviromesh?
Post by: tim on June 30, 2008, 06:26:21
Great, if it works - as it seems to for many.

Trouble is that, when covering a lagre area, there must be no gaps anywhere or the C/Ws will squeeze through - they have great determination!
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