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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Tee Gee on April 19, 2008, 13:52:49

Title: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Tee Gee on April 19, 2008, 13:52:49
I have noticed we seem to have two threads going on basically the same subject so I thought it might be best if we narrowed it down to one as it seems it is going to be a good talking point on this forum for quite a while.

I don't know if the best way is to move both the other threads over to one dedicated to the subject, or start another what do you think Dan?

I think it is going to be a good subject for bouncing blame/credit as the case may be against the media, who after all, are only after ratings through entertainment and not educating those people they are supposedly targetting.

Before closing I must say this; I have to admire Joe for putting himself in such an invidious position.

I don't think he can really win but he has had the courage to put himself forward for public scrutiny.

Well done Joe!!

 
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: theothermarg on April 19, 2008, 14:19:18
Hear hear it,s got me watch (bits of) gardeners world anyway
marg
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: sarah on April 19, 2008, 14:57:30
i have to say i have been offered many things by fellow allotmenteers in my time but i have never had someone dig up two rows of crops for me to replant.  :D
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: goodlife on April 19, 2008, 16:34:54
Some people do anything to get into telly... ::)
Giving some garlic away...my gum... :o
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: springbok on April 19, 2008, 17:24:40
I think its great... !!   Its clear he hasnt a clue and niether did I 6 months ago.... he is making the same mistakes that I did, and most people here who started out..... excitement takes over from the CORRECT WAY TO DO EVERYTHING....

So GOOD LUCK JOE!!!!... Right behind you mate!!!.... stuff the know it alls who just keep complaining he isnt doing things right, im sure they didnt when they started out... how many times does Monty have to say Joe has no clue what he is doing.... till it sinks in thats why the BBC are following it all.... its about LEARNING!!!!!

Obviously those who think everything has been done for him etc should put their glasses and look at the dates on the video camera and the photos that he has been taking for his own diary.   He has had his mates help him... but one person here cant tell me you havent had a mate help you put up a shed, or help you dig.... coz I know my pals have come round and got stuck in!!!.

Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: caroline7758 on April 19, 2008, 17:48:45
And he did say it's now been 7 weeks since hetook it on,so he's not pretending he's done it quickly!

I thi nk we're up to four or five threads now, TeeGee!
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: bluehousehill on April 19, 2008, 18:00:21
I like watching Joe he aint got a clue but I dont think he is supposed to. I havent either so its good to watch him with all his enthusiam and so he got a free bit of wood, I did to and I dont get why peeps are moaning its good to see a lottie on the tele.

He comes across as a good laugh as well. If I had Monty's number i would call him up as well. This reminds me a bit like the old boy next too me who kind of gives advice but deep down I get the impression he wants me to muck up...

Keep going Joe and good on ya!!
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: thegreatgardener on April 19, 2008, 19:18:32
What I find interesting is joe did not bother to go though 3 or 4 of great vegetable gardening books. So he could make a really good go at it. But maybe he is to cocky to do the most basic research on the subject.

Tee Gee
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think it is going to be a good subject for bouncing blame/credit as the case may be against the media, who after all, are only after ratings through entertainment and not educating those people they are supposedly targetting.

teegee
reminds me of your website more entertainment then real information. 
Also there only one t in "targeting".
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: redimp on April 19, 2008, 19:36:24
What I find interesting is joe did not bother to go though 3 or 4 of great vegetable gardening books. So he could make a really good go at it. But maybe he is to cocky to do the most basic research on the subject.

Tee Gee
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think it is going to be a good subject for bouncing blame/credit as the case may be against the media, who after all, are only after ratings through entertainment and not educating those people they are supposedly targetting.

teegee
reminds me of your website more entertainment then real information. 
Also there only one t in "targeting".
Joe reading gardening books - now that really would be good TV  ::)  I should think he has read a book or two, just not on camera.  Should we have 24hr Joe's Allotment TV just so we can check everything he is or isn't doing? We would need a red button facility so we can have a camera follow Joe everywhere and another one permanently on the allotment so we could choose what we monitor.
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Plot69 on April 19, 2008, 21:19:32
coz I know my pals have come round and got stuck in!!!.

That's right. I invited my mate to dinner one Sunday... Gave him a cheese roll, a paint brush and a gallon of creosote for the shed :)
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: posie on April 19, 2008, 21:22:51
Yep, most of my mates have been handed a spade or a fork over the last few months rofl!  :)  I call it payment for all those "5 minute" computer jobs I keep getting landed with that take me days to sort out!!!
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: theothermarg on April 19, 2008, 21:44:50
just had a thought  ::) I am not a betting person but I would like to lay a bet
on there being a joes allotment book in the offing
another thought ::) somebody seems to be baiting our mine of information tee gee, not nice tut tut
marg
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: star on April 19, 2008, 22:53:49
somebody seems to be baiting our mine of information tee gee, not nice tut tut

I dont understand? I feel I have missed something ???............please do tell. Tee Gee is our man, oh and possibly his wife's occasionally ;D
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: sarah on April 20, 2008, 08:55:56
 

i think you are right manics i think there will be a joes allotment book out just in time for christmas.  ;)
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: caseylee on April 20, 2008, 09:03:37
THe only  thing that I find funny is all the free stuff he has been getting.  Look at the wood in the first esisode he got for his raised beds, immaculat condition with bar codes still on them that smelled a bit funny to me, and also that the fresh compost was dumped right next to his site, plus the woodchip, it just all seems a bit wrong to me, I think I need to go to his site cause they sure get better treatment than we all do in swindon.
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: glow777 on April 20, 2008, 09:11:36

teegee
reminds me of your website more entertainment then real information. 
Also there only one t in "targeting".

dont really think that was necesary  - we all have gained from teegee's wealth of knowledge, (particularily flowers for me) - but then what can you expect from someone who calls themselves "the great gardener"

PS the above may Kontain spelllling mistakes but i just dont care!
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: peterwaters on April 20, 2008, 09:17:09
The wood was a bit lucky. But I live a quarter of a mile from Joe's allotment and the local council do deliver free compost and wood chippings if you phone them up.
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: springbok on April 20, 2008, 09:18:58
The wood was a bit lucky. But I live a quarter of a mile from Joe's allotment and the local council do deliver free compost and wood chippings if you phone them up.

So does our town council up the road.... a point I have been trying to get across on several occasions lol.

Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: posie on April 20, 2008, 09:19:59
I agree glow, mind you there seem to be quite a few personal attacks going on of late.  If it hadn't have been for TeeGee my marigolds would have been dead in the water!  Keep going TeeGee we love ya!
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: caseylee on April 20, 2008, 09:26:19
I wish I could speak to my local council on the phone, I have left  the allotment person tons of messages but no replies, the funny thing is that I work for the council in another dept and I still can't get anywhere about free compost and wood chips lol
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: posie on April 20, 2008, 09:29:58
Ours is the same CaseyLee, been trying for weeks to get hold of someone about dates for free bark, but nobody seems to know who the mysterious person is who deals with it!  :)
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Suzanne on April 20, 2008, 10:08:22
Same again here - our council are supposed to give away free compost and bark chips for mulch. I have tried email, ringing, letters all to the department that is responsible. I have never been able to get hold of a person who can arrange it - so I am starting to think its one of those things they say they will do - looks god on the council sustainability plan - but they never actually do. Unless its all going to one site and they don;t want to share with other lottie sites in the their area.
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on April 20, 2008, 10:11:08
I don't see what all the fuss is about. I've just found where BBC Wales puts GW when there's rugbi on - they put it on Saturday instead of Dad's Army  ???

I've thought about having a pattern like his. Can't comment about where the wood came from, but for a lot of us, we get our free stuff by hoiking it out of other people's skips in the dead of night, and they can't show that

Only criticism is that his paths are too wide, but that's probably for the camera crew
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: caroline7758 on April 20, 2008, 10:30:33

teegee
reminds me of your website more entertainment then real information. 
Also there only one t in "targeting".

Where did that come from? >:( I don't find TeeGee's site entertaining at all- just a mine of useful information!
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Tee Gee on April 20, 2008, 15:11:19
Firstly thanks to all those people who come to my defence regarding the comments 'thegreatgardener' made about my website.

Secondly; Normally I don't respond to such comments but I thought as this person seems to have read the information contained in my website let me reply by saying;  he/she is quite free to pass what ever comments they wish after all it is a free world.

And to be quite honest they might be quite right with their remark, because as it happens I have already declared something to that effect in the preface of the site.http://tinyurl.com/36mxgx. where I state;

In the main the site has been constructed to highlight to the reader, tasks for a given time of the year, and not as an 'in depth'information package on gardening.

But then again you might have missed that bit due to the the 'entertainment' value of the site, or possibly you were looking for spelling mistakes!

BTW; Did you ever consider it  could have been  a 'typing error'? i.e. I hit the T twice?

No matter you have made your point.

Back to the thread;

I am sure Joe, who I believe to be a qualified man, will have read many books on gardening but like many has been unable to translate the scripture into practice.

I put this down to the degree of depth some books go into whereas books of a simpler nature seems to fit the bill for most.

My website (I like to think) fits into that category as mentioned above.

I rest my case.....................THE END


p.s.I ask again; Should we or should we not have one thread dedicated to this series?

It certainly seems to have caught the imagination of many on these boards?



Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Fork on April 20, 2008, 15:16:12
Tee Gee,we should wait until we see admin online and then PM him.

Its not only the allotment saga,there are many threads on the same subject that could be "merged" Im sure.
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: markyb23 on April 20, 2008, 17:08:17
I dont mind either way about the Joe Swift threads. Tee Gee, I wouldn't take any notice of the occasional stupid, negative comment that gets thrown your way. Your web site is excellent, and, a real help, as are all of your posts.
                                       All The Best-MarkyB :)
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Shirley on April 20, 2008, 20:09:43
quote Tee Gee
I ask again; Should we or should we not have one thread dedicated to this series?

How about we have a different thread for each program
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: legendaryone on April 20, 2008, 21:01:25
Also there only one t in "targeting".

I think you will find that there are two  :)
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Plot69 on April 20, 2008, 21:25:45
reminds me of your website more entertainment then real information. 
Also there only one t in "targeting".

When correcting peoples spelling, it's best to check your own first...

But maybe he is to cocky to do the most basic research on the subject.

There are two o's in too.
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: davey two sheds on April 20, 2008, 22:18:17
I got two loads of wood chippings delivered free,from a local tree surgeon. He was glad to get rid of it,he usually has to pay to dump it.
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: manicscousers on April 21, 2008, 08:13:03
hiya, daveytwosheds, welcome to the site,
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 21, 2008, 08:16:54
We get mountains of dead leaves and grass cuttings delivered, from a local gardening contractor. Given the cost of landfill, there must be loads of potential sources, it's just a matter of finding them.
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: theothermarg on April 21, 2008, 16:38:22
we get free woodchips! we used to get free manure but someone complained it was full of straw and stones so it stopped
marg
Title: Re: The Joe Swift allotment saga
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 21, 2008, 20:12:35
I don't see what's wrong with straw in manure.
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