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Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: floraldi on March 19, 2008, 18:25:11
I was given a bale of compost by the manager of the local Morrison's store  as a gift (I didn't want a bunch of flowers). I was really pleased as it said it was water retentive etc.  It's about £5-6 for 40 litres.

It is absolutely chocka with vine weevil eggs. I emailed  Miracle Grow in the UK and they replied saying I have it wrong. It must be the food they have added.  Now, wouldn't you agree that any reasonably experienced gardener knows VW eggs from plant food. They make that horrible crack when bashed and the inside is wet mush - like an egg!!    It is unusable and I am really annoyed to have missed out on my gift.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Tin Shed on March 19, 2008, 18:26:51
Yuk!! Why don't you send them some so they can check exactly what they are?
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: springbok on March 19, 2008, 18:26:59
Take photos of it, and send it too them. 

I would, including the bashed ones.  They might send you vouchers etc.  You never know.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: betula on March 19, 2008, 18:34:33
We were potting up at college last year and found a large shard of glass in it.It was not miracle grow but it shows you that you must not take anything for granted.I prefer to empty out the bag into an old tin bath and loosen it up a bit and you can also see what is going on. :)
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: cambourne7 on March 19, 2008, 18:45:34
cant you sive out the eggs ?

I would definatly sent them a sample and complain!! They might need the barcode etc from the bag so if your going to bin the soil keep the bag.

When you call ask them to send you an prepaid envelope!!
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: rosebud on March 19, 2008, 18:48:41
OH CRIKEY, i have repotted lots & lots of plants with thr same compost, & put all my lovely Fuschias in it about 3wks ago, bloody hell they will hear all about it if i loose any of my plants i promise you.
Now you have me really worried :o :o.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: caroline7758 on March 19, 2008, 21:44:26
I've got a bag of Miraclegro compost too- don't think much of it- lots of big bits of woody stuff in it and what looked like a bit of glass, but luckily no sign of vine weevils!
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Rosa_Mundi on March 19, 2008, 22:22:09
Don't panic folks - they are NOT vine weevil eggs. They are slow release fertilizer used by most growers - yellow, slightly irregular spheres that have a soft white centre. It's a mistake that people often make, but these granules have been around for years. I have the same compost, and they're there too, and not a vine weevil in sight.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Uncle Joshua on March 19, 2008, 22:26:45
Don't panic folks - they are NOT vine weevil eggs. They are slow release fertilizer used by most growers - yellow, slightly irregular spheres that have a soft white centre. It's a mistake that people often make, but these granules have been around for years. I have the same compost, and they're there too, and not a vine weevil in sight.

I was about to post the same thing.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: floraldi on March 20, 2008, 18:05:03
Don't panic folks - they are NOT vine weevil eggs. They are slow release fertilizer used by most growers - yellow, slightly irregular spheres that have a soft white centre. It's a mistake that people often make, but these granules have been around for years. I have the same compost, and they're there too, and not a vine weevil in sight.

Sorry but I am sure I am right. anyway, the man at MG has asked me to send him some.  I think it has angered me more because it was a gift as a result of a complaint I made about some of their veg. (Sounds like I am always moaning!).  I will post some to him tomorrow and I'll be astonished if he says it is fertiliser.  I am also going to ask the manager of a high quality garden centre close to here.  He is a proper gardener so he will know I'm sure.   I'll let you know.  Incidentally,  the centre is not "soft white", it is just wet goo,  and the spheres are not "slightly irregular", they are perfectly round.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Rosa_Mundi on March 20, 2008, 22:00:26
You have over a dozen answers on the BBC telling you that they're fertilizer, too - some of them from growers who use the fertilizer.  ;D
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Baccy Man on March 21, 2008, 06:28:47
Vine weevil eggs are white when laid, approximately 0.8 mm in diameter and round. They rapidly turn brown as they mature. The eggs are often confused with slow release fertilizer pellets, such as ozmacote, which are found in common compost mixes. The ozmacote pellets are 2 mm in diameter, release liquid fertilizer when squashed and range in colour from yellow to dark brown.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: ACE on March 21, 2008, 07:10:27
He is a proper gardener so he will know I'm sure. 

So we're not then!  ;)

I have a huge bag of 'vine weevil' eggs that I scatter on all my growing plants in the nursery. As it gets older the eggs break down from the insides, but the shell must have been treated as it seems to stay to the end, which must be part of the slow release system.

You've made an easy mistake and I am pmsl, then I realised that I went to re-pot a plant once and thought wtf, before realising my mistake. So even some of us 'not so proper gardeners' make mistake sometimes.



Whoops! nearly forgot. Dan you really should take that header off before Miraclegrow take you to court.

Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: floraldi on March 22, 2008, 17:52:57
Yes, I too wondered if I should have put it like that on the header.
I did see all the posts on  BBC gardening telling me it is fertiliser but I am astonished that any manufacturer would make a fertiliser exactly like an egg. I could understand solid pieces of  coloured material but not an egg with a wet centre.  Love to know how they do it. Will let you know what the MG man says.

Must tell you something funny, in my computer I have got a resident vinegar fly and it just put in an appearance. How can it possibly live in there? Gone now! 

Just remembered, today I found a full large box of Vine Weevil killer that I got for £1 from a Focus sale a month or so ago. So, I could spray the compost with it I suppose, just to be on the safe side.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: rosebud on March 22, 2008, 23:44:56
Thank you all for reassuring me about the compost i was so worried about it.
Title: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: OllieC on March 23, 2008, 09:40:01
You could always bite one - if it tastes slightly unpleasant but eggy, it's an egg. If it's really bitter & makes your eyes water, it's fertiliser (which is what it is anyway!). I recommend not swallowing and rinsing out your mouth.

Or perhaps mix it with a bit of sugar & set fire to it. If it explodes, it's fertiliser.

...Or grind a few up, dissolve in water & try a Nitrate kit - fish tank or garden should do. When it goes off the scale, you'll see that it's fertiliser.

A few ideas, happy to help etc.!!!

Oh, and a link:
http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profiles0304/fertiliser_eggs.asp
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: delboy on March 23, 2008, 18:51:34
Be nice, now... It's Easter and we are all fretting over weather etc.. even vine weevils and losing stuff in the cold greenhouse...
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Gillysdad on March 24, 2008, 10:40:42
Don't panic folks - they are NOT vine weevil eggs. They are slow release fertilizer used by most growers - yellow, slightly irregular spheres that have a soft white centre. It's a mistake that people often make, but these granules have been around for years. I have the same compost, and they're there too, and not a vine weevil in sight.

Sorry but I am sure I am right. anyway, the man at MG has asked me to send him some.  I think it has angered me more because it was a gift as a result of a complaint I made about some of their veg. (Sounds like I am always moaning!).  I will post some to him tomorrow and I'll be astonished if he says it is fertiliser.  I am also going to ask the manager of a high quality garden centre close to here.  He is a proper gardener so he will know I'm sure.   I'll let you know.  Incidentally,  the centre is not "soft white", it is just wet goo,  and the spheres are not "slightly irregular", they are perfectly round.
"He is a proper gardener" .........Thanks for that..
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Jeannine on March 24, 2008, 11:03:44
Well forgetting the eggs!! is this stuff any good, it's advertising makes it look promising

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: ACE on March 24, 2008, 17:46:33
Well forgetting the eggs!! is this stuff any good, it's advertising makes it look promising

XX Jeannine

Excellent stuff, If like me you have to forsake all your darling little plants to go away for a while.  The slow release works wonders. I only use the fertiliser, I would not waste my money on the compost as I have to 'cut' my compost with sharp sand / pellets/ extra loam, etc. Universal composts do not always work on some of our show plants.
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: OllieC on March 24, 2008, 17:54:43
Well ACE, perhaps when you become a proper gardener you'll get the hang of it!!!!
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: ACE on March 24, 2008, 19:06:53
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: kitten on March 25, 2008, 17:22:55
a proper gardener

I think what floraldi meant was that he's an actual gardener, rather than a salesman working in a gardening store???

 ;D
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: OllieC on March 25, 2008, 21:40:50
Well, a thick skin & a good sense of humour are the 2 most important tools for gardening. Any gentle ribbing on here is invariably meant with the best of intentions, but you can't start a thread like this & get away without a bit of Mickey taking. You know there's no malice, don't you, floraldi?

Has there been a report back yet on the Vine Weevil harvest?!?!
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Rosa_Mundi on March 25, 2008, 23:37:33
It is good stuff. I gave some to my mother, and she was amazed at how her prized geraniums and fuchsias took off.
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Poet on April 03, 2008, 11:48:08
any update on the results of the investigation?
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: redimp on April 04, 2008, 23:16:26
Ain't it amazing how neither floraldi or annsplot have been seen for a while. ::)
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: djbrenton on April 05, 2008, 00:26:27
I've just bougth a bag of vine weevil eggs and it's got all this mucky brown stuff mixed in with it. Will the vine weevil eggs still hatch or should I throw it all away?
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: OllieC on April 05, 2008, 09:35:15
Ain't it amazing how neither floraldi or annsplot have been seen for a while. ::)

I hope either one would still feel welcome though - it's absolutely fine to be wrong, but you have to be able to take a joke too!

Now, as for your vine weevil eggs djbrenton, I'm afraid you may be little late for a good hatch rate. You might be able to find a local "real" gardener who could put them to use? I've heard that some manufacturers add them to compost.  ;D But you might as well throw away that brown stuff - it's no use to man nor beast.

But something far more important that's been bothering me - Why is this post in "Bargains" anyway?
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: OllieC on June 10, 2008, 14:04:06
Out of interest, was there ever an update on what these egss were? Just curious...
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: betula on June 11, 2008, 21:55:25
And is ACE a proper gardener yet :)
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: Hyacinth on June 11, 2008, 22:48:39
And is ACE a proper gardener yet :)

When was ACE ever proper? ::)  tho gettin down and dirty is wot ACE does best (allegedly) ;D
Title: Re: Miracle Grow compost - what are the white bits?
Post by: MaggiePage on January 20, 2009, 14:44:08


Now, wouldn't you agree that any reasonably experienced gardener knows VW eggs from plant food.

Lol yeah you would!! Have you ever seen a Vine weevil egg?? They are tiny! I'd be worried if vine weevil eggs were as big as the controlled release plant food - Imagine the size of the grub and the adult!! You'd also expect an experienced gardener to have seen Osmacote before! Even if its just in the shops! Still takes a big person to admit they were wrong, think Miracle-Gro deserve an apology?? Doubt they'll hold their breath

:)

 FYI

Controlled release fertilisers in Miracle-Gro compost break down from the inside, as I believe someone mentioned in a previous post, this is part of the slow-release system. The 'balls' release tiny amounts of plant food in warm weather when the plants are growing faster - when the temperature lowers and the plant growth slows down.... as does the nutrient release. So a blanced feed is given over the 6 months growing season. ( it's amazing what you learn by reading a label!)

Clever stuff!! Deserved of praise rather than pointless moaning!
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