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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Garden Manager on January 02, 2008, 18:47:29
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I am looking to buy about 2 dozen canes of Autumn Bliss Raspberries , to replace ones recently removed due to virus and old age.
I have done quite a bit of looking around and come up with a few places selling them online /mail order. However i was wondering if any of you could recomend any particulat supplier or nursery that does mail order.
Thanks
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Moles Seeds have Autumn Bliss, 50 bare root canes for £35.25.
I have always been very satisfied with Moles Seeds, but I would look at some of the more recent introductions of Autumn fruiting raspberries. I have Joan J, and would thoroughly recommend them. They are more expensive than Autumn Bliss, but produce very large, very tasty fruits.
valmarg
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I have only been ordering for 1.5 years but all the soft fruit ordered from Dobies has done really well and arrived in excellent condition.
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I have just ordered 12 raspberry canes from a local supplier for £10. Don't know the variety. They will be dug up for me in March now due to the hard ground.
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Thanks for replies
I have tried 'Joan J' but wasnt all that impressed with them, and have considered other newer varieties of autumn fruiters, that are supposed to be even better the autumn bliss, but in the end decided to stick with a variety we know and like.
Have looked at Dobies and Moles and neither seem to offer what i want. Dobies dont do Autumn Bliss and i only want 2 dozen, so 50 from Moles Seeds is far too many. Sorry! :-[
What about Crocus? The appear to be the cheapest (for the quantity required) but what about the quality of the canes? Would they be worth trying or am I better going for a more traditional nursery?
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hi GA
what about BlackmoorNurseries?
http://www.blackmoor.co.uk/index.php?cPath=148_149
I haven't used them myself but I think other peeps on here have, and said they were good.
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I bought my raspberries from blackmoor last year. They do great mixed deals, plants arrived weel packed and strong and even though i had them all in a pot until march every one survived and thrived! I can thoroughly recomend them
X sunloving
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Yes when i looked at some of the suppliers in the internet, Blackmoor was one of them. I made notes to compare prices per cane, postage etc and blackmoor came out well. I just wasnt sure about service, quality and reputation. Your comments have i think put Blackmoor at or near the top of the list now. Thanks.
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hi 5 rod here
got my raspberry canes from black-moor on line
no problem,good strawberrys too
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www.cooltemperate.co.uk is good and friendly.
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GA
If you fancy a trip to Bournemouth you can dig as many as you want I am swamped with Autumn Bliss, a few people on the site are having some the rest will get put in the mincing machine
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Yes when i looked at some of the suppliers in the internet, Blackmoor was one of them. I made notes to compare prices per cane, postage etc and blackmoor came out well. I just wasnt sure about service, quality and reputation. Your comments have i think put Blackmoor at or near the top of the list now. Thanks.
Another vote for Blackmoor here. We've bought rasps and blackcurrants and they've been excellent, and apple trees from there are thriving too.
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GA
If you fancy a trip to Bournemouth you can dig as many as you want I am swamped with Autumn Bliss, a few people on the site are having some the rest will get put in the mincing machine
Thanks but can you guanrantee they are virus free? Probably not so (regretfully ) i must decline your offer
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All of our canes a certified stock and I am sure we offer great value for your money.
Jon
Blackmoor Nurseries
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Gosh it makes me feel really wasteful! I'm digging up loads that have spread beyond their boundaries and shredding them cos no-one wants any....
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I think the problem is that if the canes are running wild then thats an indicator of a virus which can make selected varieties revert to a wilder form. This and other viruses (which can do the opposite and make the plants stunted and/or poor cropping) is probably the reason few gardeners will take such canes, particularly if they already have well bred varieties on their plots. If a virus exists in the 'inherited' canes it could quickly spread to the existing canes and ruin them to. Common advice is to only plant certified virus free stock, so even thrifty allotmenteers will usualy steer clear of canes that are 'going spare' on another plot.
This is a problem i know too well. When I first moved to my current garden there was a neglected raspberry patch. Wanting to save money I dug up the best canes and established fresh rows in another part of the garden. The canes started taking over the area and despite plenty of attention, never produced a decent crop. In fact i never really knew what sort they were as they never cropped regularly - appearing to produce some fruit on both old and new canes in the same season. I eventualy gave up on them binned them and after changing the soil, replanted with new certified varieties, which despite not growing in the best of soils (chalky) have produced good crops, although they too are now on the wane due to age. This clearly shows that in time raspberry canes 'go wild' and loose their productivity, as well as becoming a complete nuisance!
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Hey! Hey! they don't have a virus. They aren't running wild, but over a long row you do get suckers! I'm digging them up to keep the plot within the confines I want. I'm sure if there were more folk about I'd find some takers but it's pretty quiet at this time of year.
Oh and they're not neglected but are certified varieties. They're only 3 years old and they produce bumper crops.
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Ditto
We were excluded from our site over the winter while upgrade work was carried out and never had a chance to sort the canes out, I picked 2 kilo of fruit every day for 3 months they cropped from june to november so no virus and definatly not poor cropping I just have too many , if the canes are not fed and looked after you will end up with rubbish
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I'd put them on that well known auction site. I have just purchased 15 canes from a seller and they were great. Don't shred them! There are lots of hard up new allotment owners (like me) who would gladly give them a home it you'll post them :D
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There's a difference between being "certified as virus free", and "showing no sings of having a virus". Commercial growers would never dream of buying something that wasn't certified. Given that few farmers throw away money when there's a choice, I think we can read something into this... On the other hand, I happily took some off the hands of a neighbour recently - demonstrating the inconsistencies that make us human.
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I just bought some fallgold autumn raspberry canes from an ebay seller, scwai26, at 50p each plus 3 pound p&p. They seem to be healthy, although no guarantee re. virus etc. and he said he had numerous other varieties and was very helpful, explaining about primocanes and flourocanes etc. I can't find them listed now but I am sure if you are interested and messaged him via ebay he would let you know if he has any autumn bliss.
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I have now decided to buy my canes from Blackmoor. They look the best and since their delivery is good and prompt I can leave ordering until I am ready for them.
Just need the weather to break so i can get the raised beds built for them!! (one built two more to do.)
Thanks for all your help
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Please atke a look at some of the testimonials from some of our customers.
http://www.blackmoor.co.uk/testimonials.php
Regards
Jon
www.blackmoor.co.uk
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All this free advertising must be making you giddy, Jon.
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Is it advertising or helping members find the right supplier ?
Jon
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It's a fine line, but I think you stay pretty clear Jon. If you were relentlessly plugging your wares without all the free advice, it would be a different story. If someone here wanted mortgage advice, I'd certainly offer my services.... Anyone?!!
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Jon I am happy with your posts. You will post if someone is looking for something that you have but you don't spam us with stuff we don't want. IMHO.
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Thanks and I am always happy to help with any advise I can offer.
Jon
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Canes now received and planted, although one pack of ten was a couple of canes short. Had to go and buy a few more from the garden centre to make up the difference. It didnt seem worthwhile going back to Blackmoor to complain about it, as I am more than happy with what I received from them otherwise.
Just got to wait fro them to grow and fruit now.
Thanks for all the advice
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Let me know the shortage of the variety and I shall send in the post the shortage. You have paid for them and should let us know.
I can then bash the packer lol
Jon
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It's the guy with 9 fingers that did the packing for that one, Jon!
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He will be down to eight after today
Jon
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I think this is great- all Jons advice is much appreciated, the nursery links are a bonus- would be nice to see more experts like Jon on here, it really increases the usefulness of the forums.
What do people think of the 'yellow' raspberry varieties?
Also, my canes have new plants 'popping -up' about 1ft away form the canes, is this an indication of a virus as per Garden Apprentice's post?
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Raspberry roots will spread quite some distance. If going to far from the original row then these can be chipped out with a spade and replanted back in the row if any gaps are present. This is no indication of any virus present. I personnally do not like the Yellow fruiting varieties even though I stock them. Its all down to individual taste and there is quite a demand for them at the moment.
Jon
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Phew, thanks for that Jon- I had a bit of a panic after reading the other posts.
had a few yellow varieties at our previous place and although they were big and juicy, I just didn't enjoy them as much as the reds.....maybe its psychological?
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I took a tray home last Summer and my wife would not even try one, the colour put her straight off. If you get over that then they are something a little different.
Jon
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I just bought some fallgold autumn raspberry canes
I put some Fallgold in last year... Didn't realize they'd turn out to be bright fluorescent yellow though.
And they taste of... Well, raspberry.
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Jon you've just given us all the best reason to buy off blackmoor, a problem sorted! Unfortunately now all the complaints are going to come to you direct though the forum now! ;D
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My uncle's fruit farm can sell yellow rasps for half as much again as the red ones & they fly off the shelf! Apparently they make a great looking jam too, and they'd look cool in a smoothie.
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Thats what we done with them, great in smothies
Kea No problem
Jon
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Anyone know anything about Black Raspberries (or Pinkcurrants) Bought 2 of each from Ebay. Prob should have found out first, but a bit prone to doing things farse about ace!!
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I have no experience of these at all, be interested to know how they perform though,
Jon
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Hi Jon, just adding myself to the support Jon fanclub ;D ;D.
Its wonderful to have experts on here, and I do love your site too. As soon as I have some cash to spare I will get a cordon apple or two..... ;)
Ollie......you offered help with mortgages? Can you pay mine, then I can get a couple of apple tweez 8) ;D
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Thanks Star
He can pay mine off too if he likes
Jon
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Ollie......you offered help with mortgages? Can you pay mine, then I can get a couple of apple tweez 8) ;D
No problem at all!
Well, sadly, no, I just find you the best mortgage, you have to pay it yourself... well, you wouldn't expect Jon to come round and pick your apples for you, would you?!?!
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lol
Jon
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Anyone know anything about Black Raspberries (or Pinkcurrants) Bought 2 of each from Ebay. Prob should have found out first, but a bit prone to doing things farse about ace!!
The terminology in England must be very different. Black rasp. here are huge thorny brambles with fruits bigger and seedier than red rasp. and fruit later. Great for pie, jam and wine and blocking out deer. But currants are small smooth berries. On some sites it looks like they are calling a Gooseberry a currant, and that doesn't seem correct at all. We have one gooseberry (Pixwell) with slightly striped green berries turning slight pink and beloved by birds. Makes an aromatic jam when I can get at them first. I've always thought Gooseberries were an English invention.