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General => The Shed => Topic started by: JRP on December 24, 2007, 14:02:50

Title: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on December 24, 2007, 14:02:50
24-12-2007

Hi ALL. A THOUGHT FORM ME JRP, before the start of our new year 2008.
WHY? do we humans have WARS, apart from it being a legallizing way of thinning out the populations of our world, we all live in?
I SAY this because, IF GLOBLE WARming is caused by us humans, then this IS THE ONLY ANSWER, we must have A MAJOR WAR SOON TO SAVE OUR PLANET.
OR IS IT a case of every one talking A LOT OF HOT AIR.
I SAY THE WORLD HAS SIMPLY SHIFTED OFF ITS AXIS making the POLES NEARER TO THE SUN, which EFFECTS EVERYTHING, THERE CAN BE NO OTHER ANSWER?
SO It's MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME, even though no human lives for ever, which is why we must sort it out NOW, if I say WHAT IS TRUE, simply done by CHANGING THE WAY WE LIVE, ofcause PEOPLE WILL SAY IT'S MORE EASYER TO SAY, THAN DO. BUT WHY? when the forces of WAR, and all what's involved can be used NOT TO KILL, BUT TO SAVE LIVES, AND OUR PLANET, SIMPLY DONE BY US ALL WORKING TOGETHER, especially as we were all bourn UNDER THE SAME SUN AND MOON, which effects every thing in some way, which WE CALL LIFE, which I know is running out for me, but we must do something now for our FUTURE GENERATIONS.
May we all live long and happy in this crazy world, we all live in, where other life such as animals have no say in their future, but we do. Thank you for reading my thoughts. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Just Vegging Out on December 24, 2007, 15:18:03
I THINK GLOBAL WARMING IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT EVERY FEW THOUSAND YEARS THE EARTH SHIFTS ON ITS AXIS AND SORT OF FLIPS - VERY CLUMSY WAY OF EXPLAINING BUT APPARENTLY WE ARE AROUND ABOUT TIME FOR AN EARTH FLIP - THAT IN ITSELF CAN TAKE HUNDREDS OF YEARS - HOT COUNTRIES WILL BECOME COLD AND COLD COUNTRIES WILL BECOME HOT.
AS FOR WARS - I OFTEN WONDER IF THE POWERS THAT BE UP IN THE HEAVENS ARE NOT USING THE WORLD AS A GRAND CHESS BOARD WITH A GAME OF GOOD AND EVIL BEING PLAYED OUT.
BUT THEN I MAKE A LOT OF HOME MADE WINE, AND WELL, IT IS CHRISTMAS EVE, WHICH WOULD EXPLAIN MY PHILOSOPHY.
HAVE A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS AND TAKE IT ONE DAY AT A TIME xxxx
JUST VEGGING OUT
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: OllieC on December 24, 2007, 16:01:08
Are you both the same person? You are, aren't you! Go on, it's Christmas, 'fess up!! JVO - you've been invented by JRP so that he can have an online friend who finds his views other than ridiculous! It's okay, nobody will laugh at you for owning up.

I can't wait for an "earth flip" personally. Sounds like a larf to me! Rather annoyingly they missed that bit off the syllabus when I was studying for my physics degree, but that's edukashun these days!

JRP, yet again I find myself thinking that you're probably a very nice chap, understandably angry at the injustice in the world, and not afraid to think up new solutions to problems. But you're also a nutter mate, seriously. You need help. Have a good Christmas anyway!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Eristic on December 24, 2007, 18:46:17
Give the man some credit. He cannot be a complete nutter as buried amoungst all that crap he wrote, one thing is true. vis. Mass extermination is the answer to the problem.

OK here it is. Line up everybody caught in posession of  more than 6 plastic bottles and stack them (complete with bottles) at one of the poles until the flip occurs thereby flinging both bottles and bottle hoarders into the Ether.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on December 24, 2007, 19:48:57
Give the man some credit. He cannot be a complete nutter as buried amoungst all that crap he wrote, one thing is true. vis. Mass extermination is the answer to the problem.

OK here it is. Line up everybody caught in posession of  more than 6 plastic bottles and stack them (complete with bottles) at one of the poles until the flip occurs thereby flinging both bottles and bottle hoarders into the Ether.

You swine! I've been saving 2 litre pop bottles as miniature cloches, must have 40 by now.......enough for you to kill my entire family!   :'(


You heartless beast!   :P
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Curryandchips on December 24, 2007, 19:52:59
Seeing as its Christmas, a rare post from me.

First, JRP, if the axis is tilting, then one pole will indeed truly get closer to the sun and hence warmer (although the new axis a few degrees further off will get cooler), but also, the opposite pole will get further from the sun and hence cooler. So the total effect averages out?

Second, Just Vegging Out, the approaching tilt you are referring to, is that not the magnetic axis that is going to flip, this is not a rotational effect ! The only thing that would change would be be compass equipment, and the effect is not expected for a considerable period of time (in human terms).

Great this site innit, where else can you get such freely voiced opinions in such a refined atmosphere :)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 24, 2007, 20:29:14
OK here it is. Line up everybody caught in posession of  more than 6 plastic bottles and stack them (complete with bottles) at one of the poles until the flip occurs thereby flinging both bottles and bottle hoarders into the Ether.

What happens in this case?
(http://www.bluerockstation.com/bottle-greenhouse.jpg)
Around 1500 bottles but they are possessed by a school do you just exterminate the teachers and kids who built the greenhouse or do you exterminate the whole school & all the families who saved up bottles for them to use? If the latter you could save a bit of money on education, healthcare, pensions etc... at the same time.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: sean on December 24, 2007, 20:47:03
well i had to reply after i saw this , jrp as stated mate you need help in a big way .
here goes wars are for the gain of something the other person has , it is either land , diamonds , gold or oil ,etc . it is always about wanting something the other has .
now as to your idea of the earth shifting hmmmmmmm maybe maybe not , why not go out on a limb and say it was E.T playing football with the planet while we all slept lmao mate have a great christmas and do not be so down on life and as you said you don't live forever if you did what would be the point of living .
well stay safe and have a great xmas day all ,i will as wife banned me from lotty work on xmas day lol
sean
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: saddad on December 24, 2007, 21:22:15
I'll be up the lottie in the morning, there is bound to be something needs catching for dinner. I blame plate tectonics for the rest, done enough Geology to realise it wasn't always like this here, and here wasn't quite here either... and I'm never quite all here, there or anywhere else come to think of it!
 ::)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Eristic on December 24, 2007, 22:02:21


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do you just exterminate the teachers and kids

Yep: Kids. That's the best place to start.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Froglegs on December 24, 2007, 22:27:11
JPR,JVO,"YOU TWO ARE JUST NOT WIRED UP RIGHT"
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Eristic on December 24, 2007, 23:14:57
I've just received an urgent message from Prof. Nuteas Afra Utcake who has pointed out  that we should remember that the  world is actually flat and these pagan myths about the world being round and spinning on an axle is crass beyond words. We would of course fall of and crash into clouds full of plastic bottles.

My collegues agree though that we should still press ahead with the plan to stick all the kids up in the arctic regions while we empty out the glass bottles prior to recycling. Naturally the effort spent clearing up the glass bottles will require a prolonged period of rest without obnoxious kids waking us all up.

Merry Christmas one and all.

Eristic
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Just Vegging Out on December 24, 2007, 23:20:20
I AM NOT JRP - I AM A CRANK IN MY OWN RIGHT LOL  BUT, IN FAIRNESS TO ME, IT IS CHRISTMAS AND I WAS DRUNK WHEN I WROTE THE ABOVE - SORRY LOL
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Eristic on December 24, 2007, 23:27:59
If the bottles are all empty you have my permission to sleep it off. Recycling can wait a day or two without further detriment to our lovely flat world. By the way, that's why it's called the plain-et. hic
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 25, 2007, 00:43:44


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do you just exterminate the teachers and kids

Yep: Kids. That's the best place to start.

If I may suggest a better starting point then assuming that Prof. Nuteas Afra Utcake's theories regarding the shape of the earth are correct (certainly sounds more believable than the flip theory) how about we place a certain Mr John Richard Pendergast of Eltham, Greenwich in a boat & direct it towards the edge of this plain-et. Once we confirm he has sailed over the edge  where he can continue his search for an intelligent lifeform to take his ideas seriously we can get started on transferring the children to the Arctic. We may have to come up with a new way to entertain ourselves but I believe the benefits to members of numerous internet forums would make it the best starting point despite that.


JVO I thought you summarised your earlier point of view quite well.
I MAKE A LOT OF HOME MADE WINE, AND WELL, IT IS CHRISTMAS EVE, WHICH WOULD EXPLAIN MY PHILOSOPHY.

Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: djbrenton on December 25, 2007, 10:30:46
i'M SORRY BUT i CAN'T TAKE WHAT YOU SAY SERIOUSLY TILL IT'S TYPED LIKE THIS




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do you just exterminate the teachers and kids

Yep: Kids. That's the best place to start.

If I may SUGGEST a better starting point then assuming that Prof. Nuteas Afra Utcake's THEORIES RAGARDING THE SHAPE OF THE EARTH are correct (certainly sounds more believable than the FLIP THEORY) how about we place a certain Mr JOHN RICHARD PRENDERGAST of Eltham, Greenwich in a BOAT & direct it towards the edge of this plain-et. Once we confirm he has SAILED OVER THE EDGE  where he can continue his search for an INTELLIGENT LIFEFORM to take his ideas seriously we can get started on transferring the cHILdreN TO TeH aRCTiC. We may have to come up with a NEw WAY tO eNTERtaiN uS but I believe the BENEFITS TO MEMBERS of numerous internet forums would make it the best STARTING POINT despite that.


JVO I thought you summarised your earlier point of view quite well.
I MAKE A LOT OF HOME MADE WINE, AND WELL, IT IS CHRISTMAS EVE, WHICH WOULD EXPLAIN MY PHILOSOPHY.


Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 25, 2007, 10:51:09
i'M SORRY BUT i CAN'T TAKE WHAT YOU SAY SERIOUSLY TILL IT'S TYPED LIKE THIS
I do APOLoGISE but I PICKED up A BAD HABIT of RITING & sPELing PROPERLY when I was AT SkOOL.

Thanks for making the nescessary changes when you quoted my post.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: kenkew on December 25, 2007, 10:53:12
I would have loved to have joined this serious discussion after my few glasses of wine on Christmas Eve but I was glued to my seat listening to to the Treacle mines supervisor, The Right Honourable Ken Dodd, on the plight of the Diddy-Men.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 25, 2007, 11:07:48
Don't worry Ken it's christmas you are bound to be drunk enough for the discussion to make sense soon.
It seems the forum members on allotments-uk.com (http://www.allotments-uk.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5011) & selfsufficientish.com (http://www.selfsufficientish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=79634&sid=cd391837435780f15b2c867b4827ae6f) where it is also posted haven't started discussing it yet you could always start the serious discussions there if you want to get your comments in early.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: OllieC on December 25, 2007, 12:34:17
I thINK THIS might be HELPful:

http://www.privatehealth.co.uk/hospitaltreatment/find-a-treatment/psychiatric/psychiatric-enquiryform

I'M OFF to water MY SPACEship now.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on December 25, 2007, 12:38:41
This is far too technical for me. I have my theories about global warming too though. Have you thought about these JRP?

Due to Strictly Come Dancing, I am told that there is a huge response by folks now taking dancing lessons all over the world, consequently there are millions of people sweating and puffing, this is raising the temp. Works in a dance hall, why not overall.

Due to number of cattle and other livestock  world wide who are eating more and more refined food instead of grazing, they are consequently doing a tremendous number of bum burps,works in a lift why not  overall.

Of course a tilt as JRP says would make the above two theories even more, I don't fancy standing near a cow if it f**** while standing on it's head(that is the cow, not me)

Does anyone have any more ideas more along these lines.

Trixie are you out there?

XX Jeannine

Merry Christmas to you all
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: lorna on December 25, 2007, 12:53:48
Isn't JRP from Mottingham? That is where my late husband lived until we married and Eltham is where I was brought up until the age of 18 (then wed) now I know why we moved to another area as soon as we were married :o.
Where ever you are  Best wishes to one and all.
Gotta sign off message from next door to go round, blimey I hope there are not more veg to prepare, thought I had prepared enough for all the people on our estate earlier!!!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on December 25, 2007, 13:17:26
i'd love to contribute to thus mass debate but unfortunately the caps key on my keyboard is stuck

the solution to global warming is simple - everyone in america leave their fridge doors open, and yes the americans do have a policy on global warming - drop bombs on hot countries

seriously it's all very ocmplicated and yes maybe changes in the sun contribute, but the truth is we don't know because we've only been really measuring the sun's activity properly for the last 30 years or so, since we had satellites. Something is happening and we've got to do something and man made greenhouse gases are the best explanation. It's not like CFC's and the ozone layer where the scientific explanation is so near perfect it near makes you want to weep
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 25, 2007, 13:24:46
OllieC I gave JRP direction to his local department of clinical psychology in the 'I can can, you thread' I don't think he took the advice & he later stated that we have a lot in common which is one of the biggest insults I have received in a long time.

Lorna I believe Leas Dale is an Eltham address although it is close to Mottingham.

Jeannine re: the farting cows. How about instead of sending all children to the arctic regions we train some of them to stand behind cows & collect the methane in plastic bottles, we can then ask OllieC to fly them into space when he finishes watering his spaceship where they can be dumped into the sun which is due to burn itself out in a few billion years the combination of methane & plastic should keep it going for at least another few minutes.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on December 25, 2007, 13:35:13
Great idea, I can think of several kids from my school I would like to nominate, come to think of it, there are few parents that could join in too XX Jeannine
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on December 25, 2007, 14:17:25
actually methane in the atmos seems to have stabilised over the last few years. It's probably being destroyed by ozone. Termites are a big one for methane. Solution to the cow problem - we all eat kangaroo instead- they don't produce f*arty greenhouse gases. Nicer than beef anyway
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on December 26, 2007, 00:57:00
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millions of people sweating and puffing
Good lord !! all that sweating and puffing i do down the gym must be causing havoc to the enviroment, think i better stop   ;D   ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: marestail murderer on December 26, 2007, 10:23:28
LOL...............LANDLORD!....MORE BEER!..................this is better than the two ronnies!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on December 26, 2007, 11:17:54
sweating and puffing.................

I suppose sex is out too
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: cornykev on December 26, 2007, 15:26:44
NO SEX  :o :o :o :o  MM pass the beer, quick.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Froglegs on December 26, 2007, 16:24:21
So Cornykev what ya saying  is :o that brewers droop is good for global warming. :'( ;D ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on December 26, 2007, 16:31:38
No Sex Tonight - I'm reducing your carbon footprint!!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 26, 2007, 18:01:36
So Cornykev what ya saying  is :o that brewers droop is good for global warming. :'( ;D ;D
Some people will blame it on anything.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on December 27, 2007, 18:14:35
Baccy Man, here's one for you to answer, if you can, as I've just asker other world experts the same question, and that is, if we keep on building higher, as in skyscrapers for example, to house more people in places which were once flat, as in low compared to the mountains we already have, would it slow down the rotation of each section of the north or the south poles, enough to cause climat change, to add to all the other problems we already have?

YES, I do know the world is round as in circle, but when other planets pass us they pull on the earths surface, making it change shape, which makes it spin slower and unevenly?
 
I do believe with more and more skyscrapers being built over the years in different parts of the world,  is having an effect on our climate, as in slowing down some times and then speeding up, because of air pressures, as in wind turbine rotation and drag factors? I thought I would share this thought with you, seeing as you seem to know so much, compared to me, to put me down.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on December 27, 2007, 18:21:30
WOW
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: OllieC on December 27, 2007, 18:22:28
 ::)

Tell me it's a windup. Good point though, the air resistance must be slowing down the earth's rotation after all these years. Explain that one, baccy smarty-pants! And I had noticed feeling lighter every time mars intercepts uranus.

Just noticed - has Baccy man put JRP down? Barman!!! trebles all round!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Eristic on December 27, 2007, 18:41:49
Of course it's not a windup. JRP is a longstanding item of humour throughout the Internet, but he does tend to get things ever so slightly wrong. You see, the world, assuming it to be a spinning globe is spinning in a vacuum and as such there is no drag therefore no braking effect. Making tall buildings does not even change the overall weight of the planit and the tallest of the tall buildings are still small in relation even to this countries laughable sized mountains.

The reality though, is that the world is flat and is not spinning at all.

Even if the planit were to be round and the spinning slowed down by some et friction, this would not affect the climate but simply make the days and nights longer. So JRP, please go back to bed.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: calendula on December 27, 2007, 19:46:29
considering people are celebrating so called christmas at completely the wrong time of year then I guess anything goes - always so interesting that generally what people write says so much about themselves rather than the original topic  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: newbies on December 27, 2007, 21:53:45
I THINK HE'S NUTS.
CALENDULA, ARE YOU ALLOWED TO COMMENT WITH NO CAPS?
JUST ASKING ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Eristic on December 27, 2007, 22:31:19
Code: [Select]
I THINK HE'S NUTS.
I plead guilty in return for lighter sentance.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on December 28, 2007, 01:30:53
Actually I think the drag is caused by all the tall tomatoes that are growing on roof top gardens, that plus the flags that fly from them too, nowt to do with tall buildings

Perhaps there should be law that only determinate bush toms are allowed to grow over a certain height of building in ana effort to help the world crisis (S)

Maybe we should start a petition!!

Certainly we should ban NUT trees up there.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 28, 2007, 02:59:59
Okay John if you would like serious answers then firstly your earth flip theory:

The evolution of the obliquity (the angle between the axis of rotation and the orbital plane) is caused by the tidal effects of the Sun and of the other planets (that is the outside force).

Earth would have suffered however our large Moon carries a lot of rotational inertia and has kept us from tilting any more than we have. The Moon's tidal effect on Earth is more than double that of the Sun which cancels out the suns effect.

The paper cited below explains how this happens. It is not written in simple terms but it is understandable if you take the time (and it shows that the topic has been studied).

Laskar, J.L. and Robutel, P (Bureau des longitudes): The chaotic obliquity of the planets (nature 361, pp.608-612, 18 February 1993)

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Now for the second question Eristic has already answered it by pointing out the earth is spinning in a vacuum therefore skyscrapers will not make a difference.

If you would like to know more about the phenomenon of wind  so you can sound like you know what you are talking about then I will get you started by explaining how it is created:

It's common to say that hot air rises and cold air rushes in to take it's place. This implies the hot air rises by itself creating a vacuum that sucks the cold air in. Actually, though, what's happening is the opposite: cooler air is denser and therefore weighs more per unit volume. It exerts more pressure in all directions and squeezes the less dense, warmer air up to higher altitudes by the force of buoyancy. The movement of the cooler, denser, higher pressure air into the lower pressure zones is wind. It's more comprehensive to understand wind as caused both by the sun and by gravity.
The rotation of the earth adds an extra twist to the general phenomenon of high pressure air moving toward the equator displacing low pressure air toward the poles.

However based on your comments on the environment site (http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=110913) I am sure you will say this is rubbish as you don't believe the equator exists therefore it can't possibly have an effect on how wind is created.

Coincidentally the world is not spherical it has been clearly demonstrated by Terry Pratchett that the world is flat and travels through space on the backs of four elephants that stand on the back of a giant turtle as shown in this picture.
(http://www.worth1000.com/entries/255500/255818MsUR_w.jpg)


Calendula I don't celebrate christmas if Jesus's birthday can be moved from August to December just to try & eradicate pagan traditions then it is obviously not that important if you meant the idea of St Nicholas then that was traditionally about giving to those who needed help not about buying the latest games console for your kids so not worth celebrating either as the meaning has changed too much.
The only thing I celebrated on December 25 was my wifes birthday as it is more than my life's worth to forget it.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: marestail murderer on December 28, 2007, 04:38:41
omg...........thish is gerrin tooo technicaly for me (.hic.)
so..............wind isnt caused by sprouts?????
and if the world is spinning in a vaccum...........is it time to empty the dyson...........???

and there was i thinking that if i went around putting up canvas sails between all the high rises.....i might just slow down the earth enough to make the weekend last till thursday!

ollie..the barmans busy...but when he comes your way.ill have a tribble rum!


(wanders off to watch re-runs of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy......somthings gotta make sense!.lol)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 28, 2007, 04:57:20
If the world was in a dyson it would stop spinning every 6 months when the vacuum broke down.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: saddad on December 28, 2007, 07:36:43
On a theological point the actual "Birthday" of Christ was far less central than the dating of the death and Ressurection... ie Easter which is why the latter is moveable and the former fixed...
 :)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 28, 2007, 08:02:35
There are lots of possible dates for the birth of christ August is popular with the majority of people I have discussed the subject with October is also suggested but all agree it is definitely not December it was moved by Theodosius I in in 391 CE to discourage people from celebrating dies natalis solis invicti.

The actual date could be anywhere between April-October based on the quote “Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night” [Luke 2:8].

Even today in that region it is a common practice by shepherds to leave their flocks out in the warm summer/spring nights between April to October to feed in the green fields. After the month of October they will not leave their sheep out at night, and will lock them inside stables since the winter will be very cold and/or rainy. This itself is supposed to prove that Jesus was born somewhere between April and October when exactly is anyones guess as there is no no specific date mentioned anywhere.
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Post by: saddad on December 28, 2007, 08:38:37
exactly.... which is why the date goes unrecorded...
 :)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on December 28, 2007, 09:46:28
to return to the original theme, which was WAR WAR WAR, JRP may get his wish sooner than he thought. We probably don't have to worry, as I imagine most of Pakistan's nuclear weapons are aimed at India, tho I did hear that at least one of them is aimed at Jim Davidson's house (or has he moved to Dubai?)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on December 28, 2007, 10:26:34
If you bothered to watched the channel 4 TV programme last night at 8pm to do with Britain floods this year, it noted it was caused by the golfstream shifting from north to south, what caused it to do that was explained, but they never mentioned my skyscrapers theory, maybe they had not thought of it in the way that I have, like most of my ideas, which I believe are out side the box way of thinking, enough for some people to think I must be mad, or need medical help. But going by some of the people who do post on here I'm not alone.  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: saddad on December 28, 2007, 10:38:27
I could book a joint appointment with the shrinks....
 :-X
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Barnowl on December 28, 2007, 11:29:32
I assume the golfstream is the annual migration of golfing fanatics from North America to Scotland and Southwest England? And presumably it's the energy waste from their transportation that leaves a trail of warmth behind that allows e.g.  palm trees to grow in Torquay..........

I can see that if their migration pattern altered, perhaps because of fear of terrorists, it might create some severe weather effects.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on December 28, 2007, 11:30:28
it's all that pesky golf stream's fault. What about all those wind farms??? Any fool can that all of them going at the same time's bound to cause hurricanes. It's Madness!!!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: OllieC on December 28, 2007, 11:37:43
but they never mentioned my skyscrapers theory

Christ alone knows why!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Barnowl on December 28, 2007, 12:39:51
Probably too highbrow


I'll get me coat .....
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 28, 2007, 13:07:44
I think JRP deserves some credit he has finally managed to post something without excessive use of the caps key, that is quite an acheivement for him.

I cant comment on the program as yesterday I was busy at 8 & my tv guide didn't mention it, instead the listing for 4 from 19:15 - 21:30 was:
Y Clwb Rygbi Ymunwch a chriw chwaraeon S4C ar gyfer holl gyffro rygbi byw o Barc y Strade wrth i'r Sgarlets fynd ben ben a'r Gweilch yng Nghynghrair Celtaidd Magners, y gic gyntaf am 19.35.

Definitely rugby not golf.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on December 28, 2007, 13:34:52
I'm sorry I did not notice I spelt GULF STREAM wrong, that's the trouble when you can't spell very well, like me, now I know why I was getting so many stupid answers, that still don't mean, I don't know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: OllieC on December 28, 2007, 13:55:45
You thought "gulf" and "golf" were the same thing, because you have poor spelling skills? I'm sorry, there are plenty of people with appalling spelling who are capable of having a reasonable discussion. You on the other hand, intentionally come out with provocative viewpoints on emotive issues in order to solicit some kind of attention. You're more than happy to upset other people, purely for your own entertainment. So don't try the sympathy card, matey.

Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baccy Man on December 28, 2007, 14:31:37
J.R.P normally I would say there's no such thing as a silly question. If you want to know something and can't find the answer for yourself the only way to find out is to ask. However people usually accept the sensible answers, in your case you assume you know the answer & will not even consider the possibility you may be mistaken so is there really any point asking the question in the first place?
Your reactions towards people who point out flaws in any ideas you come up with are not exactly pleasant for the other person.
If we looked at your longstanding 'I can, can you' thread then the idea is not new the ancient Egyptians used containers to cultivate plants which could be transported if needed ultimately that idea resulted in flowerpots. You concentrate specifically on using the system in third world countries where the containers you suggest using are not readily available nor are they designed to withstand the climatic conditions. There is no source of compost available for them to be filled with or if there was they would be using it for planting the crops grown directly in the ground although you almost hit on a good idea once when you suggested using rags soaked in s*hit as a growing medium. The problem with that would be the number of pathogens which would be passed into the foodcrops however if it was composted properly first humanure would work as a growing medium. I suggest you read the humanure handbook (http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html) to find out how that is done. You also greatly underestimate the problems with obtaining sufficient quantities of water to make the system work.
If you listened to other people you could find solutions to the flaws in your system & would end up with an idea that would actually work and you would have a much higher chance of getting it up & running. Until you start listening to other people you are not going to get any help with your ideas as you have accused everyone who has tried to help you deal with the flaws in your system of putting you down or been abusive towards them which is going to put them off helping you resolve any issues they can see. Instead you will continue to be viewed as an object of ridicule on the internet with a lot of crackpot theories.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on December 28, 2007, 14:35:42
 I don't need yours or anybody elses SYMPATHY, IT MEANS I'M TRUE TO MY SELF, and that I go through life with nothing to hide. And I don't think taking the p... out of some one you don't know is right either, but it take all sorts, the trouble is there are more people like you, than there are of me.
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Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on December 28, 2007, 14:41:22
the trouble is there are more people like you, than there are of me.

Natural Selection???
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Post by: Barnowl on December 28, 2007, 15:18:14
JRP, from my perspective, I think that the points you tried to establish had already been clearly shown to be incapable of being right - irrespective of your spelling. Anyway, the debate being over, a little bit of banter seemed to be in order.

I agree with Ollie and Baccyman. It's really not your spelling that's the problem, the problem is your apparent inability to read, debate and learn from what anyone else says.  You really aren't always right - sometimes not even close. For example your idea re skyscrapers was, to be blunt, nonsense. Perhaps once in a while you should hold your hands up and say "Yes I wasn't right about that one" or "perhaps I should modify my theory". Getting all "wounded feelings" is the least convincing stance you can adopt.

By the way, I actually thought the Golf was simply a typing mistake, not an inability to spell. If I had though that, I wouldn't have shared my little flight of fancy. You've posted enough to know that we do at least look at the argument first, otherwise I'd have been on your case ages ago. I don't know why, but I get really annoyed by people confusing effect and affect  AND JRP YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO IS GUILTY .....

...... subsides into gibbering wreck at the thought of all those uncorrected postings.

Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Eristic on December 28, 2007, 16:51:50
It is my opinion that JRP has done more harm to the recycling movement than the entire American nation. The constant pushing of insane ideology that is so obviously insane forces everyone, even people that may be sympathetic to the cause, to distance themselves from the movement.

Recycling is good:
Making gardens out of plastic bottles is just stupid.

As for spieling, Dan must know how bad I am at spelling cos he Gil me my own button to rite wot is writ
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on December 28, 2007, 23:05:52
Hi ALL, thank you for take the time to read my posts, in 2008 I will do more, and talk less, starting from now.
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Post by: Jeannine on December 29, 2007, 01:29:32
Your heart is in the right place JRP but remember to put brain in gear before opening mouth.. XX Happy New  Year Sweetie XXJeannine
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Post by: Just Vegging Out on December 29, 2007, 03:36:16
So, is the earth not going to flip then????
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Post by: Jeannine on December 29, 2007, 12:32:50
I hope not or I shall be blind the rest of my life LOL XX Jeannine
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Post by: Froglegs on December 30, 2007, 09:44:50
the trouble is there are more people like you, than there are of me.

Natural Selection???
The right medication
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Post by: Trixiebelle on December 30, 2007, 21:40:50
BULLOCKS  ;D
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Post by: Jeannine on December 30, 2007, 21:58:36
Is that spelling correct  Trixie?
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Post by: Froglegs on December 30, 2007, 22:03:49
 :-\
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Post by: debster on December 30, 2007, 22:26:52
we're all doooooommmmmeeeedddd :o

oh well if the world is gonna end could it do so before i have to hand in these bloomin essays ive just spent weeks researching and writing  ::)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Trixiebelle on December 31, 2007, 17:03:06
Hi ALL, thank you for take the time to read my posts, in 2008 I will do more, and talk less, starting from now.

HALLELUJAH  ;D

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eTi2KwixNjg

And I'm still laughing at 'natural selection' :D



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Post by: manicscousers on December 31, 2007, 17:17:30

we're all doooooommmmmeeeedddd :o

can't we just have one more growing season, I wanna see if my new seeds grow  ;D
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Post by: Jeannine on December 31, 2007, 18:19:17
I thought the song was great and the artists had clothes covering their bodies, hair was clean and they were all in step,,those were the days !! XX Jeannine
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Post by: Just Vegging Out on December 31, 2007, 20:22:02
Just watched the U-tube - they don't write them like that anymore do they?  What a toe-tapper!
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Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on January 01, 2008, 08:30:54
What an uplifting start to the New Year! Mind You, I'm sure I saw the bloke on the left in a jewish porn film  :D
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Post by: Jeannine on January 01, 2008, 09:18:44
Happy New Year JRP XX Jeannine
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Post by: JRP on January 06, 2008, 23:00:22
www.inhabitat.com
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 08, 2008, 18:29:34
Is that a link for the well-known & highly lucrative housewares company that did particularly well in the 1970's and has had continued success into the 21st century ... perchance?

Otherwise I'm not clicking it  :-X
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on January 08, 2008, 19:11:02
I thought it was the company that made those glass tube things that connect  houses that hamsters live in, drive you daft if your kid gets one XX Jeannine
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 08, 2008, 19:15:54
No Jeannine! That's Hamsterballs.com - the sister company of Gerbilnuts.co.uk
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Emagggie on January 08, 2008, 20:17:49
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


(I was waiting for the conductor to take flight in the vid.)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rob the rake on January 12, 2008, 08:44:30
Brilliant thread! I wish I'd noticed it before now.

It occurs to me that JRP performs a useful function, as a benchmark for judging ones own sanity. :)
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on January 12, 2008, 11:21:10
Well, I have ordered some Topsy Turvy tomato planters just in case XX Jeannine
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 12, 2008, 16:57:23
Well I had one of these at Christmas ...

http://interiordec.about.com/od/cmasartificial/a/upsidedowntree.htm
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on January 12, 2008, 17:02:59
bit uncomfortable for the fairy
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 12, 2008, 18:20:58
The fairy was a mother of 3 - she didn't mind a bit.

The tree went down particularly well actually. My baubles have always been at a peculiar angle so it made a refreshing change.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on January 12, 2008, 19:11:03
Trixie, we had along conversation in our staff room when someone said about these, I thought it was a joke,,,well you are all ready for when JRP's theory comes over us.XX Jeannine
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Froglegs on January 13, 2008, 12:18:18
The fairy was a mother of 3 - she didn't mind a bit.

The tree went down particularly well actually. My baubles have always been at a peculiar angle so it made a refreshing change.
:o :o :o :-[ :-X ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on January 17, 2008, 16:11:12
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject:   
 
   Hi ALL, someone said life is a compromise when talking about climate change, which effects us all. Crime effects us all too. If you know about the letter a 12 year old girl wrote to her father Garry Newlove, who died, then you will know something has to be done now to help prevent it from happening again to someone else. I say chop them will help stop them like no other punishment has. Yes chopping the whole hand off is barbaric in some countries, as the person can not change things, my way they can without going to prison, if found GUILTY beyond any shadow of doubt. I believe the law has let this loveing 12 year old girl down, because the law is a joke now, why because it's a case of all talk and no do, when the police do their job, and the judge don't just because the prisons are full. Which I'm sure is good to know if you are cought doing something wrong.
What a crazy world we all live in, and it's going to get worse the way things are going if people don't get it sorted out..
 
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: sean on January 17, 2008, 16:16:07
JRP are you putting yourself forward for PM lol mate you talking total rubbish , as thebible says and eye for and eye well all that will do is make the whole world blind , there is no way to stop this other than at the route and thats with the kids in the home and some you can't help at all , next you will blame the parents mate some just can not be helped and chopping of a hand well i am sure you would recycle the hands for dog food or cat food or don't tell me feed it to the prisoners lmao
get in the real world and put that herb smoke out lol
well sorry had to say it
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Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on January 17, 2008, 16:19:10
Off with their goolies
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on January 17, 2008, 16:24:14
I hope this isn't going to become another one of your chopping off threads JRP because I for one will not be a happy lady if you do, you promised not to do this again.XX Jeannine
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on January 17, 2008, 16:35:48
I hope this isn't going to become another one of your chopping off threads JRP because I for one will not be a happy lady if you do, you promised not to do this again.XX Jeannine

Hi Jeannine, and others I have no more to say on this subject, as I think I've made my point in past, but it was taken off, enough said.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on January 17, 2008, 16:49:56
I've made my point in past, but it was taken off

It was taken off because it was complete ballocks !
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on January 17, 2008, 19:04:40
You really do say it how it is PR.  ;D ::) :-* XX Jeannine
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rob08 on January 17, 2008, 19:06:34
Is bad spelling and sentence structure a prerequisite for radicals?
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: JRP on March 10, 2008, 23:42:11
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject:   
 
   Hi ALL, someone said life is a compromise when talking about climate change, which effects us all. Crime effects us all too. If you know about the letter a 12 year old girl wrote to her father Garry Newlove, who died, then you will know something has to be done now to help prevent it from happening again to someone else. I say chop them will help stop them like no other punishment has. Yes chopping the whole hand off is barbaric in some countries, as the person can not change things, my way they can without going to prison, if found GUILTY beyond any shadow of doubt. I believe the law has let this loveing 12 year old girl down, because the law is a joke now, why because it's a case of all talk and no do, when the police do their job, and the judge don't just because the prisons are full. Which I'm sure is good to know if you are cought doing something wrong.
What a crazy world we all live in, and it's going to get worse the way things are going if people don't get it sorted out..
 

Should we bring back the death penalty?
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: redimp on March 10, 2008, 23:47:20
No
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Hyacinth on March 11, 2008, 08:50:47
No
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: littlebabybird on March 11, 2008, 09:20:08
No
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Lindsay on March 11, 2008, 09:23:23
Definitely not. 
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: OllieC on March 11, 2008, 09:36:59
Should we bring back the death penalty?

Given that none of us are perfect, will you go first? Then you can let me know how it feels.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on March 11, 2008, 09:40:50
Definately no.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Emagggie on March 11, 2008, 15:12:15
No,no,no.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Just Vegging Out on March 11, 2008, 15:34:49
Well JRP - you sound like you are all for introducing SHARIA LAW into our civilisation?  The Old testament did state and eye for and eye and the New Testament, which is the basis of law in GREAT BRITAIN advises us to turn the other cheek and to not judge people.

SHARIA LAW all up for public stonings, chopping of hands, gang rapes, etc. etc.  But most of GREAT BRITAIN are not all up for SHARIA LAW.

JRP are you aiming to take us forward or backwards?

Or maybe JRP you are of no religious persuasion and just like the idea of maiming someone?  This is an allotment website mate, not really the place for horror stories about chopping people to bits in a That'll Show'em fashion!

Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on March 11, 2008, 15:59:06
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject:   
 
   I say chop them will help stop them


Kind of catchy slogan though, isn't it?
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Hyacinth on March 11, 2008, 16:03:46
 I thought this was a yes/no poll :-[

(agree about the slogan tho)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on March 11, 2008, 16:11:55
Oh eck.ere we go agin
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: manicscousers on March 11, 2008, 16:14:36
this thread should come with a warning  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: tilts on March 11, 2008, 17:00:29
The recent question by JRP ~ Should we bring back the death penalty?
For whom?
Slugs?
Yes, yes yes!!!!!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Barnowl on March 11, 2008, 17:41:21
I find it interesting that  the Bible (OT)  may say an eye for an eye, but I don't think it says a hand for a theft - more that the thief one should repay at least double what was been stolen (e.g. four times in the case of sheep) - no mention of physical punishment that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: springbok on March 11, 2008, 18:18:16
The recent question by JRP ~ Should we bring back the death penalty?
For whom?
Slugs?
Yes, yes yes!!!!!

Have to agree with this one LOL ;D ;D ;D

as for the latter, keeping my mouth shut!!!.. safer!!
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Baaaaaaaa on March 11, 2008, 19:51:07
If penalties were banned, would England win more World Cups ?

I'm not sure about making deaf people take them though.  :-\
Title: Re: IT'S MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME?
Post by: Jeannine on July 23, 2010, 10:42:55
Bump.. another oldie that could do with an airing..please read it all through XX Jeannine

PS I tried to bump his hilarious and scary one about cutting body parts off but it had been closed and I don't know how to do a link

Cutting crime without doing prison time it is called
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