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Title: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: lorna on September 09, 2007, 12:57:33
First time of growing. Tassels have turned brown so thought I would pick one. The cob has formed OK but a very pale colour (between off white and cream) Have I picked it too early, shouldn't it be much deeper colour (yellow?.) Several more cobs to pick but don't want to make mistake by picking more.
Lorna.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: Jeannine on September 09, 2007, 13:39:47
Depends on the variety, some are very yellow, some are paler, some are white and some are a bi colour ..some yellow and some white kernels on the same cob , if you know the type I can tell you probably. They would be paler if immature, Stick your finger nail in a kernel, if it squirts a milky fluid it is ready, if not it needs a bit longer. Eat the one you have anyway but picking too early especially on some types the flavour will be watery. XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: lorna on September 09, 2007, 13:49:33
Jeannine. Yes does give milky fluid. Ink on label has washed off (won't happen next year bought a label writer :)) However just looked in my seed tin and I had saved the packet,  miracle F1, the pic on front of packet shows quite deep yellow. harvest Aug or Sept. Any useful info?
Lorna.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: Jeannine on September 09, 2007, 13:56:17
Then I would say it is immature, also the cob kernels might be smaller and not full up to the end, but if it is good, then I would eat it. I pulled one today too, but the cob was small, pale and underdone.You don't have to pull it to test it. When the cobs are still on the plant, gently peel a little of the husk away, and take a peep and have a squeeze, the milky will be very white when ready XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: lorna on September 09, 2007, 14:10:58
Many thanks Jeannine. The cob I picked is 8cms long and kernels to the end Will leave them for a little while longer. Ah the milk wasn't really white.
Lorna
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: Fork on September 09, 2007, 15:27:26
Dont forget that your sweetcorn begin to turn their sugar into starch soon after picking so they need to be eaten sooner rather than later
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: lorna on September 09, 2007, 15:41:20
Thanks Fork.  Didn't know that, I do like them so want to try and get things right. Haven't got many this year but would like to grow more next year.
Lorna
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: telboy on September 09, 2007, 18:08:38
Lorna,
Please don't use this year's seeds next year. Like parsnip seeds etc., they don't germinate too well.
Fork's advice is excellent, pick 'em & straight into the pot then butter & pepper!
Enjoy!
 :D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: lorna on September 09, 2007, 18:16:41
Hi tellboy. I know I keep on but is it because the ones I have are f1 (that I shouldn't save seed)? Or does it apply to all sweetcorn seed? Still trying to learn even at my age :). Many thanks.
Lorna.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: saddad on September 09, 2007, 18:26:13
Saving Sweetcorn seeds yourself is a tricky business... isolation ( because wind pollinated) inbreeding so you need a lot of plants etc.. I'd leave it to the experts!
 :-\
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: tim on September 09, 2007, 18:52:22
If you do take a peek, DO cover up completly afterwards, or the 'wigs will be in!
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: Jeannine on September 09, 2007, 21:13:14
No, don't save your seed, I wouldn't unless a very old precious variety and isolation is pure. Regarding cooking, supersweets will hold a few days after picking as they are bred  for that reason , but don't if you don't have to, sugar enhanced will last a wee while, perhaps a couple of days but not as long as supersweets and regular corn wether hybrid ot heirloom will not hold at all, in fact the US folks say, put the water on to boil, stroll to the corn patch, pick your corn and run back to the kitchen to drop it into the pot. Cook same day for sure.

Another way to cook, is to leave the husk on, microwave in husk 3 minutes, then peel and enjoy, nothing lost in the water  and no need to use plastic wrap.

Your Miracle F1 is a sugar enhanced one by the way.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: lorna on September 09, 2007, 23:24:34
Many thanks to one and all. I was just curious for reason for not saving seed. Have taken note of all advice, rather fancy the microwave method of cooking. Will let you know how I get on.
Lorna.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: real food on September 10, 2007, 19:57:08
As I picked my first cob today, I will try Jeannine's microwave method.
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: cornykev on September 10, 2007, 20:35:55
I normally microwave naked, that's the corn not me, so I might give Jeannines idea a go, lets hope theres no wigs in there, and the old seeds a new one on me I thought it was just parsnip seed that didn't keep, can someone please confirm.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: cleo on September 10, 2007, 21:21:46
Sweetcorn seeds are good for at least two seasons. And they freeze without too much loss of flavour -but eat them this year.

They are nice on a barbie as well
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: Tora on September 11, 2007, 13:37:52
I got 100% germination from Extra Early Sweet F1 seeds bought last year, so I would say give it a go if there are left-over seeds.

Microwaving it in husk sounds very good idea. I'm going to try that method. :)
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: cornykev on September 11, 2007, 16:24:08
Cheers for that.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: real food on September 11, 2007, 19:16:51
Well, in the end I decided to micro without the husk in a covered container, as I reckoned that it would be easier to remove all the bits of the "silk" while the corn was cold rather than hot.
In any event, it was superb!
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: Jeannine on September 11, 2007, 21:01:09
Corn seed is good for about 2 years  and then rapidly deteriorates, I buy mine about every 4 years as I buy in bulk but on the third year I oversow.

My personal view on saving corn seed is that it has to be well and truly dry to store, also the kernels need to be a decent size, I just don't think it is worth the effort,as it is with other seeds like beans and toms etc.

Just a personal view though,and as it is quite cheap to buy I wouldn't bother with this one unless a very rare kind.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: cambourne7 on September 17, 2007, 13:12:52
no fair, been away from my plot for 2 weeks and the sweetcorn is no ready yet stuck my finger in and its squirted yellow water!!

(pulled a carrot and courgette instead though)

Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: cornykev on September 17, 2007, 19:41:57
Sorry Cam I took four home with me this afternoon and a couple of beetroots.  :P ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: Mike J on September 23, 2007, 19:07:41
You can tell when they're ripe because the rats will have been feasting on them! Lost nearly all mine to the rats, super sweet ones as well (the corn not the rats....), the ones they left they still nibbled, and moved on to another when they discovered it wasn't ripe. Did rescue some though and they were delicious, my best ever.

Anyone got any thoughts on rat deterrent (other than poisoning, or is this permissible when it comes to rats?!)

Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: cornykev on September 23, 2007, 20:20:18
Rats were eating mine Mike, so I put 2 litre (bottom cut) plastic bottles on them as recommened on another thread, seems to be working OK. A few of the old boys on site asked if I was growing lemonade.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sweetcorn..Ripe?
Post by: Mike J on September 24, 2007, 13:46:03
Thanks, Cornykev, I missed that thread, but it sounds like a great idea. Just got to convince the kids that our reluctance to give them copious quantities of 'fizz' was misplaced, and that it's now OK - to protect Dad's sweetcorn crop! Alternatively, I may have to turn to copious quanties of cheap cider instead. Mmmmmm........tough choice. Still, a year to go before I need them so, lead me to it!
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