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General => The Shed => Topic started by: Marymary on August 03, 2007, 22:16:22
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What a year, floods, blight & now foot & mouth - what's next I wonder?
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Oh dear very serious is the country being punished for something i wonder. ::)
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Really bad news.... lets hope they can contain it.
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This is bad news again. I had hoped I would never hear of Foot n Mouth again after the last outbreak. Living in an area hit by F & M was just horrible and will never forget it. Do hope this outbreak is contained in a small area. :'( :'(
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Always look on the bright side of life (just finished reading The Midden by Tom Sharpe) but I feel that this is easier said than done.
I hope too that it is contained - if not, it doesn't bear thinking about.
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can someone answer this question, why don't they immunise
I've read there's a vaccine, ? :)
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Lets hope they learned the lessons from last time - alot of f & m was spread by DEFRA officials.
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can someone answer this question, why don't they immunise
I've read there's a vaccine, ? :)
Did I just hear the news on the radio right? The strain of F&M is the same as that found in vaccines - there is a lab a few miles away from the farm infected.
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This is dreadful news, we have floods, now pestalence..is the famine coming next,it is getting really scary out there
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I live very near to the farm.We drove through Normandy on Friday evening and saw people in the fields picking up the cow poop and we were returning from Pirbright after looking at some cars which were for sale.We now have helicopters flying over and various news crews floating around.I'm almost certain we know the farmer but they haven't named him yet.Took my dogs out in the fields a couple of days ago and walked past another herd of cows which I believe is owned by the same farmer.
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can someone answer this question, why don't they immunise
I've read there's a vaccine, ? :)
Did I just hear the news on the radio right? The strain of F&M is the same as that found in vaccines - there is a lab a few miles away from the farm infected.
There are 7 strains, but all 7 are used at pirbright - so yes its going to be one of them.
I cannot believe the media about all this - i know a fair bit about FMD through my OH who works for the IAH, makes me wonder how much else they get wrong.
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They keep saying on the news the strain found is not normally found in animals... well where else is it found....my coffee machine obviously!
What they should be saying is its a strain not normally found in northern europe..
Sky news sucks btw
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I cannot believe the media about all this - i know a fair bit about FMD through my OH who works for the IAH, makes me wonder how much else they get wrong.
I bet the list is as long as ya arm. >:(
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If this did come from the lab, thank goodness they werent testing anything like a nerve gas when the 'leak' happened, or it could have been a lot worse!
cj :)
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We buy most of our meat from a farm out that way - he works so hard with his Aberdeen Angus herds - which his grandfather started down here 80 years ago. It must be so terrible. Lets wait & see how much DEFRA can screw it up again.
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I am getting even more annoyed with the news, what a load of b*****ks, dont beleive any of it! I live in Compton about 100 yds from the IAH and have lived in Compton all my life, my OH works there and so do lots of my friends, and i can tell you what news is saying is a load of mis-informed, mis-reported, glamourised, one-sided clap-trap.. >:(
Now i know why we used to hang Witches..
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can someone answer this question, why don't they immunise
I've read there's a vaccine, ? :)
The non-vaccination policy was set up for reasons of international trade. Countries free from Foot and Mouth Disease prohibit the import of animals or animal products from countries that vaccinate against FMD.
This is a quote from a veterinary research company.
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Thanks, luckydog
ok, another question, can any of the farmers choose to vaccinate their animals or would that affect milk and such ? :)
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No idea where it came from, but I feel for all the farmers in the area, it must be the most stressful time imaginable.
So we have had floods, now F and M, hope it's not possible to see the return of BSE!
:'(
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What worries me is that they are moving the dead animals a couple of hundred miles to Frome in Somerset to burn them! Apparently the trucks are "sealed" someone saw them last time and there was liquid dripping out of them!
Maybe it is not a good idea to be a farmer on the route through from Surrey to Somerset.
It is ghastly - I am now nearlly 99% vegetarian because of all the stuff going on in farms and how the farmers treat their animals - I have seen at first hand how some animals are treated and was distraught!
Which is why we all grow our own!
Old Bird
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I can safely say (having been around several farms here) that most of the animals in the region of this outbreak are grown by relatively small producers who care immensely for their animals including their welfare. They will be absolutely devastated to see these animals being destroyed in such a wasteful way.
In fact I would argue that the vast majority of beef & lamb grown in the UK is grown by people who care immensely and is grown in entirely humane conditions. Unlike chickens with which I agree with you entirely.
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We arrived back in the UK just before the last lot and were totally confused by it, I never want to see those awful sights again. it was just terrible. We were not here for the Mad Cow thing so did not know what was happening with that one.I guess it must have been bad too.
I really feel for all the farmers out there, they all must be very scared right now wherever they are.
What is happening in the world, there seems to have been one crisis after another this decade, worse than I can ever remember it before. I don't think I will ever be sure of anything again.
XX Jeannine
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Load of BBC mob round our village today.
Still - i'm looking on the bright side..
Ever since i was a small boy i've had this desire, a desire i've never had the possibility to fullfill up unitil now..
During my teens i was ashamed, and tried to fight the urge, i kept my secret hidden deep, deep within my soul, but, as i've got older and a little mad, the urge has creeped back..
So with my fingers and toes crossed, and with baited breath - tommorow, hopefully...
I will finally get my chance to run up behind a live outside broadcast news interview, pull a funny face and shout "Hello mum!", if i can get a mooney in then all the better !
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I shall be watching the news reports in anticipation ;D
cj :)
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It is ghastly - I am now nearlly 99% vegetarian because of all the stuff going on in farms and how the farmers treat their animals - I have seen at first hand how some animals are treated and was distraught!
Old Bird
I live on a farm with my partner, and I can assure you that we treat our animals with respect and give them the best possible life that we can. At the end of the day, the quality of the stock that we produce provides us with our livelihood, and they are not just a commodity to us. Like most farmers, we would be devastated to lose our animals due to someone else's incompetence.
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I belong to The Cyclists' Touring Club and organise pensioners rides on Tuesday going to a pub for lunch. Yesterday we had planned to drive to Santon Downham then cycle off road using the Harling drove and Peddars way, to East Harling, Norfolk (The Nags Head), about 18 miles off road. I cancelled the ride and two of us went on road to a local pub, we shall stay on road until this is over.
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I belong to The Cyclists' Touring Club and organise pensioners rides on Tuesday going to a pub for lunch. Yesterday we had planned to drive to Santon Downham then cycle off road using the Harling drove and Peddars way, to East Harling, Norfolk (The Nags Head), about 18 miles off road. I cancelled the ride and two of us went on road to a local pub, we shall stay on road until this is over.
You should come to Normandy where the foot and mouth actually is, some bright spark has decided its ok to leave all the foot paths open (they were still open yesterday) even the ones running by the the infected farms only the entrance to one field is blocked off.
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I don't understand the logic of investigating local allotments for the possibility that the virus has been carried there on tools/clothes/footwear - and claiming that there is no need to close the footpaths through these devastated farms because the virus cannot be picked up and spread by walkers.
[I know the footpaths are now closed at last].
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Given that the blanket closing down of the footpaths/bridleways had a serious effect on many country businesses (such as cafes and so on) last time around, has there ever been a documented case of walkers or riders spreading the disease?
Waves to Larkshall - fellow CTC member ;D
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That's my point exactly.
They seem to think that workers at the research/vaccination centres could have somehow carried the virus with them, walking to their allotments near the infected farms.
Simultaneously they argue that walkers on footpaths could not pick up the virus and pass it on to cattle (sheep etc etc) on the land they are walking through.
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Anyone notice the helicopter shots on TV - don't imagine that helps prevent dispersal on the wind?