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General => The Shed => Topic started by: Jeannine on July 07, 2007, 20:28:29
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This might seem like an odd question but I am curious just how many of us can put there hands up.. Parents and Grandparents...and if they are still bumps when are thay due XX Jeannine
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I did a burp this morning. Does that count?
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Not unless you are sick in the mornings or are craving pickles with custard.
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Well, Jeannine, you know all about my 'grandbump', due christmas eve ;D
cj :)
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I am so envious of that date it is so special, having said that I don't know how you will cope, at your busiest time. I jusr remembered I didn't get my date but it is February and our bump was 8 weeks last week. Do you know anything about this triple thingy they do to Mums, it involves blood work and another scan at 12 weeks? I don't think it is a general thing,I got the impression it is for high risk pregnancies but I am so out of date I didn't know when she mentioned it and didn't want to ask in case it worried her.
XXX Jeannine
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Mmm, not heard of it, but I will ask Naomi if she knows anything about it.
cj :)
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Hi jeannine- no bump for me I'm afraid ::) might adopt again at some point in the future but not this year.... regarding you question, I am on the admin team of this website:
www.fertilityzone.co.uk
it has a very good section called ask Rose (she is a member who happens to be a midwife) there is also a very active preg section where you can ask other members questions. its free, and has a very similar layout to this site
veggie
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sam's due 15th october, we're all much more relaxed now and looking forward to it, she didn't have a triple thingy, jeannine, although she had miscarried last time, she has to have a glucose tolerance test now, as ray has been diagnosed with diabetes, hope everything goes ok, sam did have another scan at 12 weeks though, the little darlin' was turning somersaults ;D
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Manics do you know what the triple thingy is,I think it is the blood test to determine things like spina bifida etc but my daughter in law thinks not, maybe something got lost in the Dutch translation maybe there is another test they do there..
You still have way to go though, it is exciting but a little scary too as she miscarried too and I am willing the weeks away.
Gosh it has changed so much since I did my midwifery in the 60's , I hardly know anything anymore.
Thanks for the link Veggiemite I will take a look at that, I do wish you luck too, I think I take somethings for granted sometimes, it is not so easy for everyone. Hugs XX Jeannine
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I thought the triple thingy blood test for spina bifida etc, was for certain ages, as sam's only just 30, she's a mite too young for that one..if your daughter in law's feeling fine, I think that says something about the babe, sam was very sick with the other one, never felt 'right'.. anyway, good thoughts winging their way :)
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I've been told there is another rugrat on the way near xmas.
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Whose?
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number 2 boy
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Oh well done !!
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i became a mummy for the first time last october, so not this year but baby is only 8 months old.
she's my little helper at the lottie, when she starts crying for a bottle then it's brew time.
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We had our second in Feb, a boy this time, took us all by surprise, he came 9 weeks early!
Doing grand now, even after 10 weeks in hospital.
Regards
Matt
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Jeannine, do you mean an amniocentisis? It is used to detect any possible chromosome abnormalities in the unborn child that may cause Down's syndrome or other congenital problems.
A sample of amniotic fluid is taken (which is why there is a risk factor) and analysed.
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3 more babies in our family. My first Great Grandchild. My great nieces little treasue born 10weeks early (3lb20z) still in hospital but gaining weight. Charlie's great niece's Wopper 9lb plus. Happy days and more birthdays to remember :)
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Smashing Lorna, 3 new ones!!
Emmy, no, I thought it was an amnio but my daughter in law said it isn't??
XX Jeannine
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Ooo goodnes you grannys and grandads are gonna be busy with knitting and whatnot!
Jeannine - I had my first in 95 and second in 98 - the 2 1/2 years between them midwifery had changed quite a bit then... wouldn't like to hazard a guess how much it has changed in 10 years for me!
I do remember bloods at 12 weeks... one of them is risk of downsyndrome - chromosome check... think its pretty normal so dont worry too much. If the count comes back high then they refer to an amnio. Not sure what else they check at that time.
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I am not worried , just curious because she couldn't explain what it was and it seems to be nothing I know.
XX Jeannine
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We have our news!!!
Our 20 week scan revealed today our Grandbump is a girl and everything is going well!!
She is to be called Alexandria Jeannine,we are so thrilled you would think there had never been a baby born before.
Picture below,just had to share this.
XX Jeannine
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cogratulations, jeannine and family..it's so exciing, the first scan.. what date has she been given ?..I bet the knitting needles are going 10 to the dozen ;D
so glad all's going well, :)
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jeannine that picture is so clear she does look very relaxed looks like shes lying on her back having a smoke though lol
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Fabulous picture Jeannine. Is the test you are talking about the alpha foeto protein test? I think if the levels are very low it can be an indicator of neural damage in the foetus.
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Is the test you are talking about the alpha foeto protein test? I think if the levels are very low it can be an indicator of neural damage in the foetus.
AFP level are very high if there is an open Neural Tube Defect...I don't think that is the test she was trying to identify, I tried to work out which one it was but the timings don't fit any UK tests very well. Must be a Dutch thing!
Well apparently we are in for a very busy October, very high bookings at the maternity unit where I work. Tell me about it!
I've been busy all night delivering babies.......now off to bed (yawn)...
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I've a 33-week, kicking madly bump at the moment. First one, likely to be an only (I'm too old to do this again!) and it's completely prevented any lottying this year thanks to making me rather sicker than I expected. (Another reason for it being an only child!)
The 12-week test you are discussing is called a nuchal translucency: it was developed by the Fetal Medicine Foundation and is primarily an ultrasound scan, made between 11 and 13 weeks, to measure the diameter of a fold of skin. Years of observational research have shown that the diameter, combined with a knowledge of the maternal age, allows a risk of chromosomal abnormalities to be made. This is primarily Down's syndrome, but that's only trisomy-21; there's a couple of other trisomies too. There's also evidence that the nuchal fold can also predict a lot of other defects. If you have the scan, there's usually an option to have blood tests too: a dual one at the time or a triple later on.
Because of my age, I started with a risk of 1:89 chance of Down's. After the scan, it dropped to 1:675, and when the bloods came back, it was 1:1189 so I was happy not to have further tests. It told me that my risk of a Down's baby was that of a 20-year-old mother. Nice thing is that it's non-invasive for the baby - where amniocentesis and chorionic villus-sampling rely on needles being stuck in, which gives a 2-3% risk of miscarriage. Though you get a definite result from those, as against a simple qualitative risk assessment for the nuchal. If I'd have had a less than 1:200 final result, my GP would have sent me for the invasive tests.
moonbells
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Glad you are feeling better now Moonbells! Good time of year to be pregnant now the weather is cooling down a bit... ;D
I suggested nuchal translucency to Jeannine but she didn't think it was that, it was another blood test. We offer 12 week dating scans in the area where I work, and the 'quadruple' blood tests at around 15 weeks, but few units use the nuchal translucency as a general screening test in our area. I'm afraid it comes down to budgets, scanning equipment, consultants preferences and pressures on scanning time....
I was a 'mature' mum when I had my first (even more mature three years later when I had my second!) and had to pay to have the 'triple' blood test done as it was not widely available then and had to be sent to a London hospital for analysis! ;D
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well, I've given in to my need to buy stuff..all the shops have sales on so we went mad buying things for the baby this week, Ray's as bad as me..tops and pants, jackets etc..
will be going out again next week, mitts and hats, towels and anything else we see..it's lovely,
15th to 18th october, depending what happens, they're only letting her go 'til 18th then will do a cesarean so I'm sooo excited ;D
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Yay!!! We've just got back from the 12 week scan - a brother or sister for little Annabelle. Not due until April, but I thought I'd join in... :) :) :)
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congraats, ollieC..it'll fly over ;D
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all i am saying is OUCH!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7015841.stm
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Many congratulations Ollie to you and your family.
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And i'll be a Grandad again in December, ;D
Now how many will that make 1,2,3,err 4,5,6
it will be 6 :o ;D
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This is all exciting. Manics I thought of your daughter today whilst hanging curtains in now 3 months old grandaughter's room. Will await news with anticipation as you seem to be next. ;D
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thanks, maggie, is she keeping you busy..3 months, it's gone over so quickly ;D
it's almost as exciting as when I was having my own, apart from the birth bit, of course :o ;D
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Yup, chief sitter 2 mornings a week. Ooooooh I love it. ;D ;D ;D
Wouldn't want to do the birth bit again either :o
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i am a week overdue with my first - but hopefully something is happening today fingers crossed. have had mild contractions all night every 10 mins or so, still continuing now. just willing them to get stronger and closer together (though OUCH! but i'll cope)
lottying this year has been slightly less organised due to bump - and then in july and august we had buildes in and no kitchen so i didnt even harvest anything for 7 weeks as couldnt cook. tomatoes are going mental although coming to an end now, was digging potatoes yesterday, got squashes and sweet potatoes to harvest.
been looking for purple srouting broccoli plantlets as havent had organisational skill to grow seedlings in time. if i planted now-ish, i should have some in february/march - trouble is i cant seem to buy them anywhere (marshalls etc).
anyone got any ideas?
PS: as with moonbells, been told i have the body of a 16 year old. i wasnt complaining :D
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no wonder you're getting pains, digging potatoe, is that a way to bring on labour ;D
hope everything goes smoothly, just remember to breathe ;D
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absolutely! that was the point of the excercise after all. it's raining today otherwise i'd dig the SP as well.....
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Svea, how exciting. Let us know if it is definately labour, and keep us posted on progress ;D
cj :)
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Yep, we'll be checking in for updates Svea. Hope all goes smoothly.
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waiting eagerly to hear of new arrival Svea, another A4A member on his/her way!!
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slow labour/pre labour only - come on baby!
it's every 14 minutes now but very strong. i would rather have more frequent but slightly weaker contractions.....
(moon on a stick and all)
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Hope it all speeds up for you soon.
Our Boots the Chemist have started renting out a labour TENS machine. Dont know if they work though. Have you got one?
Has anyone on here tried one during labour? Not that I have any intentions of needing one again. 4 children are definately enough for me!!!!
All the best Svea :D
cj :)
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I tried a TENS when in labour with my second....had it turned up so high I was vibrating with the pulses!!!! Works really well for some women, most don't turn it up high enough, quickly enough to get the best effect. I also had one when I had a back injury, worked well.
Hope all is going well Svea, eat well and carbohydrate load a bit....nice relaxing bath if things aren't picking up pace yet....... ;D
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Deb,
I tried one to help with the pain after a neck injury. It didnt work for me though, just sent my neck muscles into spasm, whatever level I set it on. SHame really, as it's a wonderful thing if you can get relief from it .
I'm trying to get my daughter to try one when she has her baby. She's not convinced though, as she says that labour cant be much worse than period pains :-X. I dont want to frighten her, so I may rent one secretly. and take it to her when things get a bit 'intense'. ;)
cj :)
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Come on Svea, toe tapping here waiting patiently for news ;D
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Deb,
I'm trying to get my daughter to try one when she has her baby. She's not convinced though, as she says that labour cant be much worse than period pains :-X. I dont want to frighten her, so I may rent one secretly. and take it to her when things get a bit 'intense'. ;)
cj :)
More like nine months accumalated period pain in my experience! ;D It varies so much though, I've looked after women in labour who have sat smiling and writing out shopping lists throughout lucky things! They are the exception rather than the rule though! I think you are right not to frighten her, TENS work best when put on in early labour though, if you put one on too late it doesn't seem to be as effective but worth a try.
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Wonder whether i'ts arrived...
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PS: as with moonbells, been told i have the body of a 16 year old. i wasnt complaining :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Wish I really did have the body of a 20-year old instead of someone twice that! There's one line in Raiders of the Lost Ark that I love - it's not the years, hon, it's the mileage... and I feel like that sometimes! (In 1981 Harrison Ford was 39 so was younger than me when he said it!!!)
Back problems, knee problems endemic. I'm just glad the reproductive part is apparently young! It's going to need to be!
Best wishes and look forward to hearing all about it when you've recovered a bit!
moonbells
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Thanks for the well wishes guys... Looking forward to Svea's update - presumably the silence is the update.
I think women have to be so brave with this. I'd want an epidural and plentiful supply of Codeine from about month 7 onwards, personally. But I'm a wimp.
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Ollie, you are right.Svea is too quiet. Must mean that mini Svea is imminent or here!
cj :)
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only just popped in here as i am not expecting anything (been there done that). its all very exciting isnt it? had no idea there were so many expectent members. good luck everyone! will be thinking of svea till we hear something. good luck moonbells i have wondered how you were getting on as i used to enjoy your blog. :D
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Hope all this doesn't send you into an early labour Moonbells.
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Just to help matters, I've now got a cold. Could shoot one of my work colleagues for sneezing all over me. He got sent home pronto but obviously too late. Can't sleep as can't breathe if horizontal, and just as I'd got some days off for my birthday too!
Hope I can get shot of the cold soon - I've heard they take aaaaggess to go if you're expecting...
*sigh*
moonbells
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Cosset yourself Moonbells, eat something nice and comforting.. ;D Im sure Mr Moonbells is waiting on you as he should. Hope you're soon better.
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I wish Mr M was cosseting me, but he's not back from his 2-month hiatus in Mumbai till the weekend.
Strictly self-service till then! But at least the cat is there for company.
moonbells
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matilda arrived 2nd october after 4 days of prelabour and 15h of active labour. they had to break my waters to get me going.
days and nights are happening one at a time - she is 11 days today and things seem good so far.
but i havent got much time for anything else, hence the radio silence...
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Congratulations Svea and welcome to A4A Matilda!
cj :)
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so glad everything went well, welcome, Matilda..keep well, svea ;D
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Congratulations Svea to you and your family. Don't forget the pics when you get a minute.
Lorna.
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matilda arrived 2nd october after 4 days of prelabour and 15h of active labour. they had to break my waters to get me going.
days and nights are happening one at a time - she is 11 days today and things seem good so far.
but i havent got much time for anything else, hence the radio silence...
oh good for Matilda - my own birthday!
My son arrived five days ago and is merrily causing havoc in the house!
moonbells
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Huge congrats to you both Svea and moonbells!
Having babies is the most wonderful thing :)
Claire
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Wonderful news from both quarters ;D Hearty congratulations to both Svea and Moonbells and your new families.
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Congrats to you both! More mini allotmenteers ;D
cj :)
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Congratulations Svea to you and your family. Don't forget the pics when you get a minute.
Lorna.
there you are, matilda at 5 weeks old
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/1871134784_74a850272d_m.jpg)
congrats to you moonbells - has the lad got a name yet??
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what a lovely little girl, svea, worth the wait :)
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Congratulations Svea to you and your family. Don't forget the pics when you get a minute.
Lorna.
there you are, matilda at 5 weeks old
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/1871134784_74a850272d_m.jpg)
congrats to you moonbells - has the lad got a name yet??
Aaw so sweet :)
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Beautiful eyes!
cj :)
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Thank you Svea. Another beautiful baby.
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Beautiful baby Svea. :)
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do you think matthew looks like his mum ? ;D
sorry, won't let me post the other picture :(
no, says the file's too big !!, just had some put onto cd from slides
never mind, he's lovely anyway, they both are ;D
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Just like his big brother though.What a splendid looking young man. ;)
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Well the boy has been sitting at the hospital all day, they decided to induce birth today, but no news yet, whats wrong with the girl two weeks overdue and still taking her time ;)
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is it a boy, ace..they don't like coming out of a nice, cosy place where their every need is taken care of ;D
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Still no news
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keeping everything crossed for you both , hope it's soon, for both your sakes, you'll have no fingernails left ;D
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2.30PM Elliott decided it was time to make an appearance, just found out myself, so more details and hopefully a pic when I get back from the hospital. I expect he's a handsome little boy, as it runs in the family. ;)
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brilliant ;D
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Here he is.
(http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/29792/2301259190062644071S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2301259190062644071nohFaf)
(http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/29070/2321439720062644071S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2321439720062644071FMpNaU)
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lovely little boy, ace..worth waiting for ;D
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Well done, Grandad!!!
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Ooooh awwwwwwww what a lovely early Christmas gift. Congratulations. Worth waiting for such a handsome lil chap. :)
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Congratulations Ace and of course to the family. What a gorgeous lad.
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Congratulations! He's lovely!
cj :)
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They're all bonny beautiful babies. My Christmas wish is that life smiles on them all and brings them happy and fulfilled lives.
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matthew aged 3 weeks, smiling at grandma ;D
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My little bundle of joy turned up 15 years ago tomorrow.
Anyone want a swap?
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managed to sort the sizing, here's Sam, 29 3/4 years ago, beauty ;D
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Well, the last few months have flown by, and Naomi is due on Monday! The midwife thinks baby is very big, so is going to do a 'sweep' on Monday to gee him along a bit.
She's a bit worried, and so is really hoping he comes on his own before then.
Anyone got any ideas on how to get labour started?
Thanks.
cj :)
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Old wives tales i have heard inc having sec, eating a hot hot hot curry, tinned pear.
:) Good luck i hope it all goes well.
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tinned pear.
That reminds me of a lady in our church. She is in her 80's. Her mother was feeling unwell and went to the doctors. He broke the news to her that she was about 4 months pregnant, and sent her straight to the midwife. The midwife said she thought she was 6 months pregnant at least.
On the way home, she visited her mum, and said she was feeling worse. He mum was quite short with her and told her she had to toughen up, as being pregnant would be much worse towards the end. They gave her a plum and she went home. 2 hours later, Elvie was born!!!
Her Dad went to work in the morning, and came home to find his first child!!
Apparently, she was very small, and they didnt think she would survive. Well, she did, and is still going well!!
Whenever anyone is late having a baby, she says to give them a plum, as it worked for her!!
I'll pass on your ideas Cam, and let you know if there is any progress ;D
cj :)
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I suspect babies arrive when they're ready, unless there is medical intervention.
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Hi all ;D
Our eldest arrived a fortnight late, the youngest a month early and the middle one just about on time.....so I guess as grawc says, babies arrive as and when they're ready!
A couple of suggestions I was given: castor oil and orange juice - tastes disgusting, hot baths, riding down really bumpy roads, exercise.
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so I guess as grawc says, babies arrive as and when they're ready!
A couple of suggestions I was given: castor oil and orange juice - tastes disgusting, hot baths, riding down really bumpy roads, exercise.
I wouldn't recommend the first two suggestions, not only does castor oil taste disgusting it can give you horrendous diarrhoea (which it how it is supposed to help labour along, by hyperstimulating the bowel!) but some women are pretty sensitive about their bowels in late pregnancy and worry about them at birth so may not appreciate that!
Hot baths, now not recommended as can raise maternal temperature too high and adversely affect the fetal metabolism (birthing pools temperatures are kept around 36-37degrees)
When I was training the community midwives used to do 'OBE's' (oil , bath and enemas) all designed to stimulate the bowel and therefore indirectly the uterus. Nowadays that is replaced with a cervical sweep once overdue (as you said) to literally try and stir things up, some will also mention curry and sex, all supposed to do the same thing as the bumpy roads and exercise bit.
In my experience, Grawc is right; they make their appearance in their own time!
Don't let her worry too much about the size of the baby, most babies are pretty sensible and grow to fit their mums, plus the babies have a clever may of making their heads slightly smaller in labour to fit through by overlapping their skull bones. Ultimately they will either be able to make their way through or not, worrying about it will only make her more anxious and anxiety can affect the progress of labour. True dystocia (where the baby grows too big to fit through mum's pelvis) is rarer that most people think; although my little nan (now 93) who is 4' 9" remembers being put on a diet during her second pregnancy 'so the baby didn't grow too big'!
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Yes I expect things to have changed since those suggestions were offered to me 21 years ago, apparently they were accepted methods to induce labour especiallly in the cases of overdue babies.
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Thanks for all the replies ;D
24 hours on and only a slight back ache, which has come and gone a few times over the last few days.
It seems the home birth she was hoping for is off, as her blood count is too low. Maybe it will be for the best.
I was born at home, but when I had mine, home births were not an option. Now the midwives Naomi is under try to encourage it. Oh how times change...and change back again....and change....
cj :)
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Oh how times change...and change back again....and change....
That's midwifery for you! I did some births in small midwife led units in the early eighties, they were all closed in the nineties and 'centralised' big units were the rage, now we have midwife led care units within the big Consultant led units, and homebirth rate has gone up... :-\!
Hope things go well, let us know how she gets on! ;D
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Phil, 18 in March was 9lb... Al is not very big and the delivery was a long job but she managed it in the end..
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All quiet on the western front :-\
D day 2 days and counting.
cj :)
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Counting with you Caroline, give Naomi a big hug from us, we have her name pinned on the fridge,you must be getting very excited now, make sure you sleep, you will need it !! Love from Jeannine and John XX
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Just been to visit Naomi. Looks like due date is going to come and go with no arrival :(
She had a 'sweep' this morning, but still not a twinge. The midwife is planning to do it again on Wednesday.
If still no baby, they will book her in for an induction, but that will not be till after christmas!
Hopefully, I will be able to post a much more positive message in the morning ::) Phone will be by the bed all night incase ;D
cj
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Hang in there Caroline, he will come when he is ready,maybe Christmas Eve after all eh!! more hugs to Naomi, XX Jeannine
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Thanks for all the hugs Jeannine :)
Naomi has to have another 'sweep' tomorrow. I am begining to wonder if they do any good, or it is all down to coincidence. So many people have had numerous sweeps, and many unsuccessful.
It is Phil's uncle's birthday tomorrow, Phils on friday, then christmas eve and christmas, so the chances are , it will be on a day of some significance or other. If not, it just means we will have another significant day to add to the list ;D
I'm off now to sit by the phone and will it to ring ::)
cj :)
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Thinking of you Caroline and hoping for good news soon! (It's worse than having one yourself, isn't it?) :-*
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Thunderbirds are go!..........probably ::)
Just had call. A show, mad burst of energy and tummy very tight ;D (apologies for anyone who doesnt know what I am on about.)
Naomi will ring me if she goes into hospital, so I am off to bed with the phone. Dont know if I will be able to sleep though.
Probably Uncle Alberts birthday then ;D
cj :)
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Yippee! Sounds like action stations.
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Couldnt sleep so gave Naomi a ring. Waters broken now, and mild contractions, not regular and lasting about 10 seconds.
Looks like this is definately it.
How am I supposed to get any sleep now?!? ::)
OOOOOOH, I am sooooooooooooo excited ;D ;D ;D
cj :)
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We'll all give a mighty push on the signal Caroline ;D
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and don't forget the breathing ;)
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Just brought Naomi back from the hospital. Everything has stopped, so they sent her home.
She is feeling fed up now, as it really looked like today was the day. Ah well, cant be long now......surely?
cj :)
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aww poor Naomi!
lots of hugs and kisses and best wishes to you all, will keep my fingers crossed for you!
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Are you sure she is pregerant, and not eaten too many mince pies C? ;D ;)
Seriously though let's hope it starts for real very soon.
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I did wonder today if she will have a huge burp and discover it was wind all along ::)
cj :)
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Oh Caroline, I saw the Thunderbird comments then followed it through expecting the announcement,................she has to have him soon. I shall be watching the screen!!
Panto tomorrow with 325 kids aged from 3 to 11 so will be shouting all afternoon, so here is one for Naomi tonight.
GO GIRL....your Mum is going nuts!! We are all ready to start sucking air with you here.
XX Thinking of you all XX Jeannine
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I thought once the waters broke they took you in regardless and induced the baby..... or is that old hat??
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The midwife says she cant be sure the waters have gone. I tend to think Naomi got it right though, from what she described.
Also, when I had my third, I was told my waters hadnt gone and I wasnt in labour (although I was sure they had and I was!). Eventually they took me to the delivery room to asses me, as they thought that would 'calm me down, as I was getting a bit stressed'. 45 minutes later, Tim was born!
They put me down as a 45 minute labour,although in my estimation it was about 14 hours. The midwife was panicking when I took 45 minutes to reach the hospital on my 4th. She was standing at the door, willing me to get there in time ::)
Apparently, when the waters have gone, they like to monitor the baby every 15 minutes. Seems a bit extreme then, to send her home as they cant be sure. I would have thought better safe than sorry :-\
Anyway, no good fretting. I will just go back to 'phonewatch' ;D
Hopefully more news soon.
cj :)
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ahh christmas babies eh! my first was due on christmas day 1998 but came a week early. i shall be keeping an eye on this thread. thinking of you all!
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I thought once the waters broke they took you in regardless and induced the baby..... or is that old hat??
Depends whereabouts in the country you have your baby! ::)
Advice seems to change on a monthly basis depending on which bit of research you read too I'm afraid.....
First step is to confirm they actually have gone, not as simple as you might think! Not everyone gets a deluge, some women get a slow leak every so often, it can be really difficult to tell. Usually involves having to go to a midwife to confirm with a speculum exam, literally having a look and seeing if liquor can be seen draining.
If confirmed, the clock starts ticking...most women will go into labour spontaneously within 48 hours, and are offered induction if there is no sign beyond that (local policies will vary, anything from straightaway to 96 hours). If there is any sign of any complication, e.g liquor draining is anything but clear, mum feels unwell or has a temperature, induction is recommended immediately on the basis that a small number of women will develop an intrauterine infection. Some hospitals offer women IV antibiotics if their waters have been broken over 24 hours even if they have no complications because of this. Phew! Are you still with me! :-\
Our local guidelines recommend monitoring the baby's heartbeat every 15 minutes (or continuously if pregnancy or labour becomes complicated) 'once labour is established'..also tricky to define as Caroline describes! Doesn't count from the first contractions I'm afraid, only from when they become powerful enough to [spoiler]progressively dilate the cervix[/spoiler] which might explain the discrepancy between mothers and midwives recorded length of labour (spoiler used to protect those of a delicate disposition!!).
Having said that, experience has taught me that most women know perfectly well when they are in labour and do not need midwives to 'tell' them! ;D ;D ;D
Without doubt, labour is a different experience for every woman, so my job is never boring 8), but it does make it difficult to give 'general' advice as there is such a wide range of 'normal'!
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Deb,
thanks for all the info. It must be really interesting being a midwife. Fancied it myself once, but I think I'm a bit too old now ::)
Here's hoping we dont get a 'Silent Night' tonight ;D
cj :)
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What is happening Caroline, I can't hold my breath much longer XX Jeannine
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Absolutely nothing! :-\
I feel really bad for Naomi. She was so convinced he was on his way, and now it looks like he has decided not to be born at all. ::)
Every time the phone rings, I hope it is Naomi.
Still, cant be long now. I will let you know as soon as things start again.
At this rate, all the first size baby clothes will be too small!! He'll be born asking for a sandwich and with the beginnings of facial hair :o
Hopefully back with some news soon.
cj :)
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funny thing, both my sons were a week late and both induced, my daughter was only 2 days late, 3 hours start to finish and she was the second birth, I just think lads like being looked after by their mums and all nice and cosy ;D
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Naomi was exactly on my dates. Then Nathan was 6 weeks early, Tim was 4 weeks early. I wondered if this was going to follow a pattern, which it did, as Joe was 2 weeks early. I'm not going to try again to see if the next one is back to being on time ;D
cj :)
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She is going for Christmas Eve, I bet you, wasn't that the original date
Give her some more hugs, it can be depressing I know.
My first was 10 days late then induced, my second 2 weeks then induced, my third a week then induced, same with my fourth, number 5 was induced 6 weeks early and number 6 they induced on the due date. I don't apparently go into labour, some defective bit in me. I tied everything imaginable to try to start on my own and believe me there are a lot of old wives tales out there,but nothing worked, even when they popped my water I didn't go into labour, I always needed the pituitrin stuff before my body started, this is what my body doesn't make enough of I am told.
Hang in there Caroline I suspect you are going to have an extra special busy Christmas Eve.
God Bless and keep in touch.
PS I have tries to get you on the MSN thingy , it says you are there, but I don't think my messages are reaching you.
XX Jeannine
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Best of luck! My little gift is now 8 weeks and I can't believe where it's gone! I can hear him gurgling next door (having been stuffed with his 10pm feed). I still feel a bit like I cheated by having to have a caesarian, but I don't really care - he was born safely which is what counts!
oops loud gurgles now, better go and see what's up!
moonbells
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You carried your little bundle of joy for nine months and had a pretty hard time of it i think so i dont think you can in any way be described as a cheating!! First christmas with baby is special isnt it? I wonder whats happening with Naomi.....
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Well it was a busy Christmas Day for births for me yesterday, there were 5 babies born before I had even started my shift yesterday morning, and we were steadily occupied all day, I think we had about another 10 births in my 12 hour shift. Nice day though, we still managed to have nice cooked brekkie together, albeit at 11.45 'coz we were too busy before that! ;D
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Well, still no baby! Naomi was on the monitor yesterday, as baby had been much more active than usual, so midwife suggested they check everything was ok. Baby was fine, 2 small contractions while she was on the monitor, and then she came home.
She's not even feeling twinges.
Looks like he could be a spring baby,lol.
will keep you posted.
cj :)
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Oh Heck, I felt sure ot would be Christmas Eve, are we holding out for New Years Eve now I wonder XX Jeannine
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She's been booked in for induction Saturday night, so hopefully Sunday if all goes well. We're going away on Tuesday for a few days, so I am really hoping he's here by then. If not, we will cancel going away, as I want to be here for Naomi.
I suppose there's always hope he'll come of his own accord before then ::)
cj :)
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Ieuan arrived at 9.45 this morning. I've just got home...it was a long night!!
I'm off to get some sleep, but will fill you in on the details later.
Mum and Baby doing fine. Granny and Grandpa grinning ;D ;D
cj :)
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Aww. Congrats! (Finally) ;D ;D
moonbells
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Congratulations Grandma! Will await details with bated breath, you posted that info quickly after the birth!! ;D
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Hooray! Wonderful news! Congratulations to all! xxx
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brilliant, caroline..glad all's well, congratulations to all ;D
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ABSOLUTELY BLOOMING SMASHING , well done Granny!!
XX Jeannine
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Many congratulations to all concerned ;D ;D ;D
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Well, Naomi rung at 3am to say she thought things had started. 20 mins later, she rung to say she was off to the hospital. 4am we had a call to say her waters had gone, she was in labour but had to go home till contractions were 1 min long every 3 mins. As she had driven herself to hospital (I thought she had phones for an ambulance!!) she tried to drive home but was in too much pain, so could we go to pick her up.
When we got there, she was lying on the car seat, in terrible pain and very distressed and frightened. I calmed her and Tom down, and 15 mins later managed to get her to the toilets in the hospital reception. There was quite a lot of blood, so I sent Tom to ring the ward to tell them I wasnt happy and wanted her back on the ward. They said ok and we took her up.
The midwife was concerned at the blood loss, and so took bloods incase a caesarean was necessary. The consultant was called. He said it was the result of the speed of the labour, and that things were well under way.
She was really fast until at 8am, she was fully dilated, but the contractions slowed and became mild. She was put on a drip at 8.40, and Ieuan arrived at 9.50.
He is 9 lb 6 oz 55cm long and gorgeous ;D ;D
I stayed throughout, as Naomi was really frightened, and Tom was quite shook up too. It was amazing. My first birth at the business end!!!
So much for getting a phone call when it was all over. Still, I'm really glad I was there.
They are keeping her in tonight because of the blood loss, but she will be ok to come home tomorrow.
Thanks for all your support and wishes.
cj :)
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Brilliant news Caroline. Many congratulations to one and all. Don't forget the pics.
Lorna
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Woops. Never sent you chaps any pics of my little pickle did I? (Scuse me caroline for popping them in when your news is, erm, new ;) but have to do it now before I forget again!)
First one's when he was about a week old and doing his best Churchill impression, the second was a few days ago when I was trying to catch a smile and ended up with this! ;D ;D They really do change so fast!
(http://www.moonbells.com/A4Apics/7tn.JPG) (http://www.moonbells.com/A4Apics/benicon.jpg)
Now whether he lets me get to the lottie this next season is anyone's guess...
moonbells
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Ooooh scrumdiddlyumtious Moonbells. ;)
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Moonbells, thats one good looking chap!!
cj :)
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He's GORGEOUS, Moonbells! :) xxx
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Lovely Pics Moonbells and well done the pair of you...
Glad to see they are working you hard Deb!
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it's amazing how they change in such a short time, lovely pics, moonbells ;D
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Just lovely moonbells
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Moonbells, he's lovely.
Caroline, congratulations, this is wonderful news!
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Well, finally managed to get a few pics downloaded.
Naomi , tom and Ieuan.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p222/carolinejohnson/IMG_7124.jpg)
Ieuan and his Great Nanna; this is the best pic of his eyes open.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p222/carolinejohnson/IMG_7118.jpg)
cj :)
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Well, that's my 'birth' at an end....who's next? ;D ;D ;D
cj :)
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what a little cutie, ;D
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Just lovely. Thanks for sharing.
Lorna
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Is it me next or is there someone before Feb 8th XX Jeannine
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Just perfect Caroline.
Jeannine the time seems to have flown by :o
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;D ;D
Ieuan'll be big before they know it... tell them from me to be careful with where things ;) are pointing during nappy changes or they'll get, ahem, hosed down...
moonbells
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Already happened this morning ;D ;D ;D
Now they have to look forward to the 'sicky shoulder'! ;D ;D
cj :)
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Jeannine,
Feb 8th will be here in no time!! I bet your knitting pins are starting to smoulder ;D ;D
Is everything still on course for the expected date?
Less than 6 weeks!!! :o :o :o
You must be sooooooooooo excited now. ;D
cj :)
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Already happened this morning ;D ;D ;D
Now they have to look forward to the 'sicky shoulder'! ;D ;D
cj :)
giggle!
First time MiniSir did it to Sir, there was this yell... and I couldn't stop laughing. He ought to have known. MiniSir did it to the midwife less than 5 mins after he was born and just after he was weighed, so he'd not even got his first nappy on!
moonbells
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there was this yell... and I couldn't stop laughing.
'...and she was moved with compassion."
;D ;D ;D
We have so much in common!!! Hehehehe
cj :)
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Hi Folks, yes 5 weeks for us, and to think at first we were scared she would lose this one too, last midwife check this week has shown she has aleady dropped down and estimated at birth is 4 1/2 kilos,that is almost 10 pounds I think.Mum is puffing a bit now but she is well she is late 30's so I don't blame her, but eveything looks good.
I have stopped knitting, I started the day we got the news and kept it up till mid Ocotober when they came over from Holland for a week, she has enough knits to last her till the 6 month stage ,and clothes...well I am almost as bad as with seeds,God Bless E bay!! I had 2 full suitcases of stuff when she got here!!
I am excited, just to remind you all, she is to be called Alexandria Jeannine.
Sad thing is they are in the North of Holland.
I have been working on ideas for starting a collection of something for her to start on her birth day, any ideas anyone.
Caroline, I laughed at the sicky bit, I used to wear a towel on my shoulder with one of mine all the time.
XX Jeannine
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Matthew 'christened' his dad both ways last week, as Mike lifted his legs to move the nappy, he started spraying..he put his hand under to stop his clothes getting wet and had something deposited in his palm.. ;D ;D ;D
this was in Asda changing room, he had to ring sam on the mobile, she was having a coffee ;D ;D ;D
I told him he should've bought a lottery ticket
I got the milky shoulder on Christmas eve, while in my finery, and I don't care, it's lovely whatever happens ;D
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I am !
Gonna be a Dad for the 1st time. Wife is due end of March.
I cant wait!!!
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Chris,
how exciting ;D Keep us posted with any developments.
cj :)
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Oh yes please Chris, so exciting,hope you are getting some good tips here, XX Jeannine
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there was this yell... and I couldn't stop laughing.
'...and she was moved with compassion."
;D ;D ;D
We have so much in common!!! Hehehehe
cj :)
Heh. Only cos he laughed the first time it happened to me!
moonbells :)
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Oh eck..call from Holland this morning, our one seemed on the way last night, Marcianna spent all night at the hospital, 3cm dilated and pain regularly every three minutes but it didn't progress beyond that, if she had got to 4cm they would have helped her on? So she is home again, still with the pains which are "very uncomfortable" but not getting any worse. So a depressed Mum to be at the moment, still officially about 3 weeks to go though.
I wanted to go and hug her.
XX Jeannine
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How exciting, Jeanine! Are you packing your bags in readiness to rush out to Holland?!
Bet you won't sleep tonight!!!
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Ooooh Jeannine, we had similar with the birth of our grandaughter. If you're anything like me you'll be a-doing things like billyo 'til something actually happens. Fingers crossed that it all happens very soon.
M x
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Best wishes for the next few days... hope it's all well.
moonbells
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Oh it looks like this is it..... after several false starts ,my son just phoned from Holland and they at the hospital, they have popped Marcianna's waters so we should have a grandbaby today..
I am so excited now, and I have to go to work ggrhh.
Come on little Alexandria Jeannine, we are waiting for you.
I think this is going to be a long day!!
XX Jeannine
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Sharing your excitement, Jeannine - and sending cyber hugs to Marcianna xxx
Looking forward to your next post...........!
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Thinking of you all Jeannine! Hope all goes well.
cj :)
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Ooooh great news, and what a lovely name ;D. Will be checking in in anticipation.
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Grandaughter Dawn had baby Keely sat night about 10-30pm was 5.13oz phoned me to phone her mum to tel us was on the way, but she didnt make hospital was born at home as wasnt time to take her,hoping to see her today :D :D
Pauline
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congratulations paulinems! a great grandmother! good luck jeannine et al. ;)
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Any news Jeannine?
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Congratulations paulinems!!
Hope Dawn and Keely are both doing fine.
cj :)
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congratulations, paulinems..hope you've held your grandbabby by now..love at first sight...come on, Marcianna..I've worn a path in the carpet..cyber hugs, Jeannine :)
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She has arrived....phone call came this afternoon as I was doing home visits on the estate, pulled over to take the call, then sat there like a baby bawling my head off, wonderful news and no one to tell.
She is fine, Marcianna is tired but well, they put her on a drip to get things moving and she had her an hour later!!
My son's first and he is forty this year!!
Baby was in the room with Mum, so they put her to the phone and I heard her gurgling,so we have chatted already, and just 12 minutes old then.
What a relief.
Great news from Paulinesms too, well done, I bet you feel just like me, I ma as happy for you as I am for me.
They say they go in threes, well today another teacher at school got her first Grandchild too, and we have a teacher due today and she is in mild labour.
It must be Spring!!
Time to start planting I think.
XX Jeannine
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You've got all of us to tell, Jeannin -, (we've been on pins for days!) - and we're all thrilled to bits for you and your family!
Wonderful news - congratulations! xxx
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Congratulations Jeannine - pleased to hear that Alexandria Jeannine has arrived safely into the world, have you planned when to go and see her?
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are they sending you piccies, can you put one on here, we'd love to see her ..congratulations to you all :)
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Ooh - all these babies. Congratulations to one and all!!! Longing to see all the photos.
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Well it is half term starting in 5 days, but.........I really shouldn't
XX Jeannine
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Why not? Go on - you know you want to ...!! :)
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Great news Jeannine!!
Many more girlie chats to come ;D
Here's hoping she's a little girl who likes her sleep :o
cj :)
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Many congratulations to you all, glad everything went OK/
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Wonderful news on all fronts! MAny congratulations.
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So excited for you Jeannine. Many congratulations from our house to yours.
Hope you get to see her very soon. ;D
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Great news, it seems so long ago we were discussing scans etc when you first told us of her pregnancy.......get over there!!!! They are little for such a short time...... ;D
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Congartulations to the grannies!
Jeannine, hopping over to Holland is no problem from Hull- you know you have to- we need the photos!
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oooh congrats! glad all well, best wishes!
moonbells
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6 weeks to go!
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Alexandria Jeannine makes her first appearance.
About 20 minutes old
God Bless AJ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
XX Jeannine
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God bless indeed Jeannine, truly beautiful. :-*
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wow, she's looking at you .. amazing, Jeannine, you and your family have been truly blessed :)
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She's lovely, Jeanine - no wonder you are thrilled to bits!
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I have just caught up with this thread (I don't know what I have been doing these past few months) and am very pleased to read about these new babies.
Congratulations to Paulinems for becoming a great grandmother and to Jeannine and Caroline J on the birth of their grandchildren. I missed your announcement too, Moonbells, but hope your son is doing well. Congratulations.
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Has to be "Here's looking at you kid!" ;)
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She looks great! I cant wait to get one ;)
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What gifts! congratulations to all the parent and grandparents out there.