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Title: Scary Yobs
Post by: Tenuse on May 14, 2004, 08:57:43
Ooh I am upset today. I have had to go around all the things growing on the allotment and say goodbye to them just in case. Because last night a group of 3 youths came onto the allotments and started poking around in people's sheds  >:(, my GOH went up and challenged them and it took him 20 minutes to get them to leave, which they did eventually but only after threatening to come back and punch out all the greenhouses etc.

So now I don't know what to expect when we go to the lottie tonight, I am hoping it was only bravado but you never know....  :'( :-\

Ten x
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: legless on May 14, 2004, 09:42:14
crikey. i hope everything is ok when you get back there!
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: tim on May 14, 2004, 09:42:18
Poor Ten. Hope you've got a good memory for faces. Scary!

Are bear traps - the covered hole type - legal on allotments?? With a warning sign, of course! = Tim= Tim
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: ptennisnet on May 14, 2004, 11:37:16
Well done fpr challenging them.  I hope that they were all noise and no action...
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Fingle.... on May 14, 2004, 12:01:40
Let me guess...funny little caps that make them look like ducks, hooded tops, tracksuit boittoms and running shoes perchance ?

Scurge of England

Boot camp em all
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Tenuse on May 14, 2004, 12:54:05
Fingle were you there??

WERE YOU ONE OF THEM?!

I think there was an awful lot of mouth, mostly beginning with "f". But my GOH kept his cool and was calm throughout. So I am crossing my fingers that it was just teenage bravado...

Ten x
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Chaz Hunter on May 14, 2004, 14:23:42
Probably related to the yobs who have trashed my car 3 times in 18 months.....two weeks age I saw a gang of about 10 youngsters (in the regulation caps etc) they were climbing over a neighbours wall (3pm) god knows what they were up to but I took several close-up photos of them before they spotted me and legged it, when the police eventually arrived I told them that I'd taken photos of the lads but they didn't want to know ::)
I suggest you do as I have done in the past, wait until you see one of them on their own then confront them...they seem to lose their bravado (and the control over their bowels) when that happens.
Chaz
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Fingle.... on May 14, 2004, 16:00:26
They know you cant touch them or do anything so they just gloat and target your car etc when you not around
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Chaz Hunter on May 14, 2004, 18:22:43
Not true Fingle, the gang that did my car did several others in the same street plus more a few streets further on, as for them thinking I can't touch them or do anything, when I was living in a different area a gang of youths severely beat up my brother putting him in hospital...I picked them off one at a time at night, no witnesses. Its no good confronting a gang, you'll get abuse (or worse) just remember and watch..you'll get them in the end.
I don't advocate wanton violence but do believe in an eye for an eye etc.
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: gavin on May 14, 2004, 18:31:44
Fingers crossed for you both, Tenuse.

All best - Gavin
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: cleo on May 14, 2004, 19:14:37
humm-this takes me back a bit,just remember that lottie folk come from all walks of life-but they will respect their plot-I used to know one or two `shady` characters-just tip them the wink.

Stephan.
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: tim on May 14, 2004, 20:42:20
Reminds me of a decade or 3 ago - when rules were different - when our elder son was getting beaten up, in daylight, in this quiet village. I went out, took the 2 'yobs' by the collar, beat their heads together & asked them *** politely to leave. Never been seen since!! Those were the days. I've seldom enjoyed anything more!! = Tim
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Wicker on May 14, 2004, 21:28:31
Hope everything goes o.k. Tenuse - thought you might be back from the lottie by now to tell us, hope you manage back on tonight.

It's depressing when you realise how widespread all this vandalism and lack of natural respect for other people really is.
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Tenuse on May 17, 2004, 13:14:37
Thanks for your thoughts everybody, I am pleased to report that it was obviously a case of "all mouth no trousers", as when we went up at the weekend everything was still intact.

I can't imagine how I will feel if/when eventually something DOES get vandalised, this was bad enough, and I really feel for people who have actually had all their hard work damaged. But how fantastic are you all for keeping going regardless!!!

Lots of love

Ten x
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Wicker on May 17, 2004, 18:46:44
Relief all round that "one of our own" is o.k.  Notice how "protective" this site is of it's members eh?  that is such a good thing as work colleagues, friends etc will of course  sympathise when crops/plots are vandalised but only another "grower" can really understand.
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Mrs Ava on May 17, 2004, 22:24:15
Phew!  Rotten kids,  >:( I give up I really do!  Glad everything is okay Ten, a big relief all round huh!   :)
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: gavin on May 17, 2004, 22:37:16
Good news, Tenuse!  

Worth taking a mobile phone to the plot?  

From experience, it works best if the battery is totally flat, or if you use a kiddies' toy phone.  A dummy conversation with the police can work well; my genuine conversations with the cops were the simplest recipe I've ever met for apoplectic fury!  :( :( :(

Hope it doesn't happen again!  All best, Gavin
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: lyn on May 19, 2004, 10:25:56
It seems to be a growing trend!..2 weeks ago 2 fellow allotment holders were "doing their thing" on their own allotment and they got fired at by a group of teenagers (with the appropiate caps) using air rifles.The police were called and 2 hours later still hadn,t shown up..I know the police force is seriously undermanned and  underpaid but with instances like the above is it any wonder that people are losing all faith in the constabulary..
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Fingle.... on May 19, 2004, 12:59:00
I would have dialled 999 of i was being shot at.

ANY weapon being fired should get an armed response unit
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: Les_Woof on May 20, 2004, 08:44:18
Tenuse

Glad to hear all is still well at your lottie.  You may not know but we were done over the other week and it really gets to you, whenever I think about the fact that people were rummaging and taking what they wanted from our lottie it still raises my blood.

Touch wood, but since I reinforced the sheds and strung barbed wire around the tops of our fences there is no evidence of anyone trying it on again.

But if the day ever comes when they get in and I am around then God help them.  

Take care all, and keep the lotties secure!

Les

Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: gilgamesh on May 20, 2004, 14:12:36
I wonder if they mentioned that they were air rifles? People (police included) underestimate the damage they can do, and think they are just toys. I'd suggest "He's got a gun and he's shooting at us". I'm not paid to identify firearms, nor am I under any duty to act as a living target for those s***s.
Title: Re:Scary Yobs
Post by: darkest_night on May 20, 2004, 15:41:08
A guy that lives down the road from my wifes parents arrived home one evening and saw that burgler was in his house, he rang the police and waited outside for them to arrive, 20 minutes later he rang them back as no one had turned up to sort it out and said
" you know that burgler i told you about, you dont need to hurry now, i just shot him"

several police cars arrived in less than a minute....




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