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Allotment Stuff => The Basics => Topic started by: cambourne7 on March 01, 2007, 18:14:40
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Hi Guys,
I had a go last week at connecting up my guttering.
I have all the right bits, but i am struggeling to get it far enough away from the shed to catch the drips from the roof which has a weird overhang thats a good foot from the wall?
How have other people done this??
I have tried layering wood to get the right level but i cant get any deeper as i dont have long enough screws?
help
Cambourne7
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hi cam you could cut some triangles out of 3/4 ply fix some batten to the back edge of the triangle to use as the fixing plate. trim off the point of the triangle so it is cut vertical and parallel to the shed and again fix some batten to this bit then attache the gutter brackets to this.
does that make sense ???
;D
atb
tim
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Hi Cambourne
OH thought maybe you could use hanging basket brackets fixed to the shed - we have some a good foot long- and then attach the guttering using loops of fairly stiff wire, maybe coathangers ??
good luck ! :)
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Hi Cambourne
Any chance of a photo of the roof, I'm sure there are a few engineers out there that will come up with a solution.
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This could get complicated. ??? ::) :-\ ;D ;D ;D
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It's already complicated for me Kev ??? ??? ???
Jo.
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I have fixed mine by putting the guttering a little way off from the shed. I presume your roof has a little overhang?
1) Place 4 sections of rope around the guttering, ensure one piece is at each end. 2)The rope is then secured to the top of the roof on a baton. (Weight the rope to bricks if you dont want to add a baton). Adjust the length of rope depending how low you want the guttering to be from the roof. Dont have it too low or it will swing in the wind and not catch the water.
3) Ensure one end of the guttering is a touch lower than the other for the water to flow down the guttering into your drainpipe and into your water butt.
Voila - job done. Did mine last year. Have 6 butts full of water ;)
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phew what a lot of options!!
photo http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/P1010003-1.jpg
will take another one hopefully tonight :-)
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Hi
Got the photos this afternoon
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/guttering2.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n61/cambourne7/guttering.jpg
Cambourne
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still looking for insperation !
help
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Hi
looks like all you need is one peice of 3x1 the length of your shed and two (or three) 3x3 blocks
nail a block to each end of the shed with 6 inch nails, picking a siutable place to stick the nail! (and maybe one in the middle) and nail the 3x1 across these. screw your guttering to the 3x1.
hope this makes sense. you may have to measure and change the size of the 3x3 to get the drop right. As it stands this will put the guttering 4 inches further out
Glow
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agreed thats what i was thinking i needed to do :-)
thanks for the help :-)
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I finally got mine up today... been waiting for help from OH but just took the drill down and did it all myself... also put up tool hangers so the shed is all tidy now.
Good luck - hope you get it up soon!
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Well as a joinner I would Not use wood it rots ;D and nailing to the roof with a 6" nail sounds fun as the roof of a shed is not that strong and can be bouncy bouncy
Try going to ur local hardware store and buy a handful of steel bracket right angle and flat( better if zinc plated or similar)
and handful of nuts a bolts ( small enough to fix gutter the steel bracket).
How to fix it
Hold up one steel bracket to under side of roof and see how much you need to bend it so when fixed to the under side the leg hangs down plumbish ( depending on the width of bracket you may need 2 together)
Once brackets are bent at the correct angle/thats near enough fix gutter bracket to steel bracket ( new holes may need drilling)
Now fix steel bracket to shed roof. if screwing don't go all the way as damp will penetrate and cause more worries.
now fix guttering into gutter bracket
and stop ends and a running outlet some down pipe and bobs our uncle and fanny's our aunt
somthing likes these but bigger so gutter bracket fits
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Kieron_c2000/bracket003.jpg)
Does this help
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hi hot house,
Thats ace, problem is that anything metal gets nicked from the allotments.
So not sure how long it would last.
Cambourne7 :o
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Thats very annoying isn't it. We've got the same problem on our allotments I had some old rusty bits of farm machinery that I'd dug up on my allotment holding carpet down on my manure heap and someone stole them. So the cheap metal arches i bought from wilkinson's to grow things up are still sitting in their boxes at home.
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Why not adapt Hot House's design and use the metal brackets to hold a fascia board? The brackets will be concealed (and you could always use security screws if you wanted to, or use Philips or Pozidriv screws and drill the middle out when they're in position), and you'd need fewer brackets. Then simply screw the gutter brackets to the fascia in the usual way.
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Told you it was going to get complicated. ??? ??? ??? :-\ :-\ :-\ :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D ;D
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Is this any good to you cambourne? I haven't tried it but it looks as if it might work. I'm guessing your shed is about 6ft long, so two shelf brackets each side should be enough. If you use thinner section timber you would probably need more. And use screws rather than nails; a screwdriver won't shake the structure of your shed, and if it doesn't work you can take it down easily.
Geoff.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/419495777_ebe5a6c155_o.jpg)
If that's not too clear, go to http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/419495777_ebe5a6c155_o.jpg
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Hi
I just picked up something from freecycle which might work, there brackets for using in a garage and there are 2 sets of big brackets i was going to use to but the bike on the wall with but they might work and i might be able to use them to rope the shed down in high winds \:-)
If there not nicked
Thanks guys.
need to have a thing about this.
Cambourne7
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There is another option I used for my corrugated roof.
Have a look in the shop in the guttering section and you might find special clamps that actually fasten to the roof edge. The plastic guttering simply clicks into the brackets. Installating is simply a screwdriver job.
This pic really doesn't show the fasteners but you can just make out at lower left how close it fits to what is quite a large overhanging roof.