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Title: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: KevB on February 25, 2007, 14:37:38
Just an idea I've been using for a while and thought I should share it, just in case plants are being wasted! Quite simple, if you're getting shut of a perennial plant or bulbs etc. then replant if possible on waste land or similar (bulbs are great by a roadside)! so others can see it in flower, which brightens you're surroundings whilst also making it available for someone else to recover for their own garden!

p.s. sorry to the GArden Centres!! NOT!!
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: ACE on February 25, 2007, 14:51:59
Nice idea but!  Some of these plants can be very intrusive and be the equivilant of a herbal grey squirrel.

Mind you I live in a very pretty place that has all the wild flowers you could possibly want. An inner city area that will eventually be developed might be the place.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: JRP on February 25, 2007, 15:14:24
 ;D Hi Ace,what a good idea ,people could also do that with out of date seeds of the flowering kind,grass seeds take all right,I can't see to many problem with spinkling a few old flower seeds about,Mother nature will do the rest to brighten somewhere up,just like she grows things in the wild. John. J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Gillysdad on February 25, 2007, 16:23:14
I sprinkled some marigold seed at the entrance to our allotment, they are coming up nicely, all I have to do now is catch the person who is reversing over them. >:(
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: caroline7758 on February 25, 2007, 16:46:40
Or you could freecycle them!
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: cardinalflower on February 25, 2007, 16:55:49
Or you could pop them in a nice pot and give it away as a nice pressie!  :D
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: fluffygrue on February 26, 2007, 17:30:01
I'd recommend against planting them in the wild - better Freecycle or offer them on here. I absolutely hate going for a walk in the woods and seeing things like Pampas grasses and cultivated hardy geraniums. They look competely out of place, and often out-compete the native species.

..but if you mean planting them on unused land, wasteland, traffic islands.. fair enough. (Unless they're tall plants or trees, which might be a bit stupid.)
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: KevB on March 02, 2007, 08:44:26
It was meant for wasteland NOT woodland!
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Andy H on March 04, 2007, 09:23:52
I have thought of that before, bird seed on grass verges etc.
Didn`t think about native stuff but nature normally wins through.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: petuariapete on March 04, 2007, 09:30:31
It's called guerrilla gardening!

People (individuals and groups) go, usually  illicitly, and sort out a suitable waste site, roundabout,verge, etc, often under the cover of darkness, and tidy it up and transform it with plants. Much to the surprise of passers by the next day!

Here is a link to one UK site...http://www.guerrillagardening.org/ (http://www.guerrillagardening.org/)
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: timelady on March 07, 2007, 18:03:18
You could offer them to local schools or nurseries too? Or if you know a teacher. Kids would love to see a bit of a garden they made. :)

Tina.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: machman5 on March 11, 2007, 21:08:10
I just looked at the guerilla gardening link!   Cool!   ;D
I never knew this sort of thing went on, what a great idea.  I used to live in London and boy, could Canning Town do with some Guerilla warfare!
Donna
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: sunloving on March 16, 2007, 21:47:32
Please don't do it!

I work in the environment and heritage service and the second biggest problem threatening native species (after habiatat loss) whether in grassland, parks or scrub is non native species. they outcompete the natives they bring diseases they alter the environments ability to cycle nutrients and we spend millions of pounds a year trying to remove them.
some of the very worst culprits are escapes from gardens
himalayan balsam, japanease knotweed, ground elder, canadian pondweed, giant hogweed, rhododenderon
so please please think twice about planting anything that isnt native to the uk outside of the space that you control, becuase it might still be there and spreading long after youve gone.

Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Andy H on March 16, 2007, 23:13:50
I understand what you are saying but are non evasive plants a problem in un-used spaces of waste land???

Things are changing anyway???

Interested though....
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: sunloving on March 17, 2007, 08:25:24
Waste land used to be colonised by native species and be a haven for wildlife in urban areas, what you get now is buddleia, oxford ragwort japanease knotweed all non natives which can colonise faster becuase they are really brilliant at germinating and growing fast and outshading native speices.

You might argue that well its already terrible so wheres the harm.
The gardener in me wants to see lovely flowing plants that will be host to all sorts of native insects.

 But the real problem is that once a species has a hold in a patch it can spread outwards especially those that produce windborn seeds and runners (japanese knotweed, ground elder). and its actually quite hard to predict which plant will rocket. for instance the himalayan balsam is really rare in its home range which is just a couple of  thousand km in the high himalayas, but in europe its dominating tens if not hundreds of thousands of km espeically along river banks (a habitat nowhere near that which it ususally grows in). which we just couldnt have predicated.

Sorry to be raining on a lovely idea but the price of planting even on wasteland might be threats to native species.




Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Andy H on March 17, 2007, 08:32:21
ok thanks for that, I will think before I sow :D

Best keep and eye on my bamboo then :-X
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 17, 2007, 10:39:17
If you're going to, only plant species which are known not to be invasive! There are only a few real nasties, and it's easy to spot potential pests as they spread all over your garden, and you can't get rid of them. Trouble is, of course, these are precisely the ones people are likely to dump or plant out where they think it won't matter.

I remember Himalayan Balsam from the 1960's; it didn't seem like a real pest at all, but there was quite a bit of it scattered about along the Wye, and I got really frustrated as it wasn't in my flower book and I couldn't make out what it was.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Andy H on March 17, 2007, 11:04:59
Anyone know what this is, it has popped into the garden and jumping up in many places. It looks nice but wonder if it will be a problem. Hopefully it will take over and murder the annoying green stuff that I think is Mind your own business??
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/beckyandy/yellowflower.jpg)
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Mrs Ava on March 17, 2007, 17:58:18
ooo it is a weed Andy, I have it in the garden and allotment.  I don't mind it as it is pretty at this time of year, but I dig as much out as I can come summer.  Don't know it's name though....
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Andy H on March 17, 2007, 18:08:29
Thanks EJ I will let it go for a while to see if it slows down the horrible thing near it.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 17, 2007, 19:10:36
Lesser celandine. The little tubers are almost impossible to get rid of, and it's invasive enough to be considered a serious alien weed species in the States. On the other hand, it's pretty decorative, and if you've got a corner under a hedge or something like that, it might be worth leaving a bit for the extra colour.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Andy H on March 18, 2007, 11:40:39
Thanks for that Robert.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: fluffygrue on March 19, 2007, 11:40:53
I believe lesser celandine is an edible spring green... But please check the ID and have a Google around before scoffing the leaves. :)
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Si on March 19, 2007, 12:36:20
The young leaves are supposed to be edible, the older are poisonous. 
I wouldn't have thought of it as a weed though, more as a wild flower.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 19, 2007, 17:34:05
It's definitely a weed if it's all through your garden and you can't get rid of it!
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: valmarg on March 19, 2007, 22:26:57
In that case bluebells are weeds in our garden.
Title: Re: Waste Not Want Not
Post by: Andy H on March 19, 2007, 22:28:56
Got bluebells too and poppies!!!!! They never stop do they. Look nice till the wind blows them to bits :-\
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