Allotments 4 All
Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: campanula on February 13, 2007, 20:40:46
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I am sure this has been up before but can anyone tell me what 10 'poles' actually means?
cheers, suzy
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A pole is 5 1\2 yards roughly equivelent to 5 mtrs (1 Pole= 1 Rod = 1 Perch)
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I would love to help but I reckon a score of 'oldpharts' are now getting their reference books out to flood you with their knowledge.
While they're there, how many litres are there in a peck (liquid measure - USA).
:o :o 8) 8) ::) ::)
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I would love to help but I reckon a score of 'oldpharts' are now getting their reference books out to flood you with their knowledge.
While they're there, how many litres are there in a peck (liquid measure - USA).
:o :o 8) 8) ::) ::)
Either that or google... ;D
2 gallons or 9.092 lt
http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~alan/family/N-Units.html (http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~alan/family/N-Units.html)
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I know that a 'pole' or a 'rod' is a one dimensional measure of length but how does this translate to a square. two dimensional area? Would 10 poles be something like 5m x 55m (1pole x 10 poles)?
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Nah,
I said 'Liquid Measure'.
Think again!
I won't spoil it.
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Sorry camp.,
Butted in there!
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camp., I would think so!
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Try this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_(unit)
I think allotments are actually measured in "square rods", but usually just referred-to as "rods".
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A pole of land is a square pole, so ten poles is 5.5x5.5x10 square yards = (after a frantic hunt for a calculator) 302.5 square yards.
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R_B,
How does a 'Pole of land' translate into 302.50 cubic yards?
???
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I gave you the equation. I rod, pole or perch = 5.5 yards. 1 rod on an allotment is a square rod. 5.5x5.5=30.25. 30.25x10=302.5. QED.
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Telboy, here's one for you:
If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, was he American?
;D
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R_B,
How does a 'Pole of land' translate into 302.50 cubic yards?
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That's what happens when you double-dig it three feet deep. ;)
Cubic = volume
Square = area
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Telboy, here's one for you:
If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, was he American?
;D
You wind me up.
Sorry R-B.
;D
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R_B,
How does a 'Pole of land' translate into 302.50 cubic yards?
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That's what happens when you double-dig it three feet deep. ;)
Cubic = volume
Square = area
Just to make life more difficult there is in addition to the linear and square rods (both refered to to as rods with no indication of whiach is being used, there is a cubic rod (also, logiocally refered to as a rod) It's 5.25 x 5.25 x 5.25 cubic yards.
Incidentally did you know that on the continent a half kilo is refered to as a pound in several countries?
(France = livre, Germany Pfund) and that there is also the Metric "hundredweight" (Germany = Zentner) = 100 continental pounds. Given that 1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds a continental hundredweight = 110.231131lbs - which is as close to the imperial hundred as makes no difference!!
The metric tonne is similarly very close to the imperial version - so it's only the Americans with their silly little pints and gallons who are out of step!! ;)
Phil
Phil
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Another unit that I stumbled across when working for an engineering company that still used imperial systems a decade after we apparently went metric, was a unit heavily embedded in the US system because of their imperial measures.
The unit - the SLUG (this is not a wind up, but it is topical eh?)
Can anyone explain it WITHOUT using google?
Just for the curious out there ... :D
Derek :)
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Another unit that I stumbled across when working for an engineering company that still used imperial systems a decade after we apparently went metric, was a unit heavily embedded in the US system because of their imperial measures.
The unit - the SLUG (this is not a wind up, but it is topical eh?)
Can anyone explain it WITHOUT using google?
Just for the curious out there ... :D
Derek :)
Tis a measure of Whisky when your depressed Derek ;D
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......Can anyone explain it WITHOUT using google?
Derek :)
A slug is a unit of mass (as opposed to weight)
The mass is what gravity works on to produce weight.
Something with a of mass 1 slug weighs around 32lbs on earth but not a lot on the moon
One slug weighing in at 32lbs - worrying or what? :o
The reason I know? I was trained as an engineer in the non-metric days (and need to get out more!!) ;)
Phil
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Try this then?
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Tim,
You have the advantage over the rest of us, being the only memebr to have attended the Grate Exhibition ;D
Phil
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Funny thing though - can't remember a thing about it. 'Spose that's what age does for you??
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The metric tonne is similarly very close to the imperial version - so it's only the Americans with their silly little pints and gallons who are out of step!! ;)
Phil
To be accurate... 1 Metric Tonne = 2204 imperial pounds
1 Imperial Ton = 2240 imperial pounds
The 36 pound difference maybe not too important for 1 Tonne/Ton but if you are paying for something by weight and lots of it then can make a significant difference (like a Tanker full of Crude Oil)
;D ;)
Mikey
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2240 - 2204? Obviously a typo somewhere!
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........ if you are paying for something by weight and lots of it then can make a significant difference (like a Tanker full of Crude Oil)
;D ;)
Mikey
Not much call for tankers full of oil on my allotment - I did buy 3 tons (or were they tonnes?) of fym once
Should you be joining the Oilwells 4 All list?
Phil
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Suzy,
Are you now a happy bunnie or 'wha???????????
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Tim, I loved the measures thing - what's it from? I wanted to read the next page.
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So long ago I can't recall.
Just thought it might find a place one day!
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Telboy, here's one for you:
If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, was he American?
;D
More to the point how did he do it?
Did he pick a peck of pre-pickled peppers? ???
If so, what was the variety, as T&M don't seem to stock them! >:(
Or did Peter Piper pick a peck of non-pickled peppers and pickle them in a pot? ;)
Oops, time for my tablets.......
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Does anyone remember those old red exercise books you could buy in the 60s (Silvine I think) with all the measurement tables on the back? I have a few times wished I had one now to refer to. Those measurements didn't mean much to me then but it would be good to have now.
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Its all Greek to me, I thought I had stumbled across a fishing forum, Rods, perch, poles. ??? :-\ ;D
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Does anyone remember those old red exercise books you could buy in the 60s (Silvine I think) with all the measurement tables on the back?
All sorts of things had conversion tables, and very useful they were too.
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The exercise books - weren't they Lion Brand ... ?
Derek :)
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just a little something to keep you all amused
62-726 square inches = 1 square link
2 -295 square links = 1 square foot
20-661 square links = 1 square yard
625 square links = 1 square pole or perch
40 square poles (perches) = 1 square pole or perch
4 square roods (4,840 yards) = 1 square acre
10 square chains = 1 square acre
12 inches = 1 foot
3 feet = 1 yard
5.5 yards = 1 rod, pole, or perch
40 poles = 1 furlong
8 furlongs = 1 mile
3 miles = 1 league
;D
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Yes, Derek, I think you are right - it's a bit of a long time ago now.....
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I use a little free utility from ESB
http://www.esbconsult.com/esbcalc/esbunitconv.htm (http://www.esbconsult.com/esbcalc/esbunitconv.htm)
called ESB conversion.
PS I think the phrase square acres has a bit of redundancy in it, unless we going into other dimensions? :)
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And the one I use: http://www.softpile.com/Education/Mathematics/Review_03514_index.html (http://www.softpile.com/Education/Mathematics/Review_03514_index.html) or here:
http://www.sharewarejunkies.com/8c3/conversi.htm (http://www.sharewarejunkies.com/8c3/conversi.htm) if it is still there - can be hard to find - was the last time my system went terminal but very good.
And a few here: http://www.eldar.org/~ben/convert.html (http://www.eldar.org/~ben/convert.html)
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The exercise books - weren't they Lion Brand ... ?
Derek :)
Wasn't Lion Woolworth's own brand?
Phil
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Interestingly, a rod/pole/perch was also the length of a standard army pike. Probably made out of a reasonably slim piece of coppiced ash. Very heavy to carry far and prone to significant wind forces, as I can attest, having done it for a pageant. I believe that it was a capital offence to cut your pike down in length to make it easier.
4 rods make a cricket pitch, of course. 10 of them make a furrow-long, which oxen could plough between breathers. 10 square furlongs make an acre.
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10 square furlongs make an acre.
Not so. An acre is 4840 sq yds, or 10 sq chains (cricket pitches) or one furlong by one chain ... see delaney's post previous ...
Derek :)
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An acre being the amount an ox could plough in a day
Phil
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Wasn't Lion Woolworth's own brand?
Phil
I can't remember, but I recall buying the books in our local newsagent.
Derek :)
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You try telling that to the youth today... and they just won't believe you!
;D