Allotments 4 All
General => News => Topic started by: kt. on December 29, 2006, 22:57:50
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Dont forget BBC2 next Friday, 5th January 2007. Allotment program called GROW YOUR OWN VEG starting this day. Not sure what time yet. Set your reminders....
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Friday, BBC2, 8.30pm - the first of a six-part series presented by Carol Klein.
Cheers, KT, I had no idea!
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Already set my reminder! And one to remind kitten too! Anyone else want a reminder? ;) ;D
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Thanks i am glad someone is keeping there eye on the ball i would have kicked myself if i had missed it .the time and date is now in my diary thanks again.
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Already set my reminder! And one to remind kitten too! Anyone else want a reminder? ;) ;D
LOL sally, as predicted i'd completely forgotten already!! ::) Looking forward to it now i've been reminded tho'! x
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found this as i was browzing through my GW mag. I almost screamed with excitement. Will be interesting to see how her advice compares with everyone on here.
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I hope it's better then last nights Gardener of the year 2006. :(
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Bother I'm going to be out then - anyone seen anything about a reapeat on one of the other BBC channels - I'd hate to miss it. :'(
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Carol Klein was interviewed in today's Woman's Hour about the programme, at about 10.35 am on R4 if you want to listen again :D
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Just tried to listen to the program . Option is there to listen but Automated response says unable to bring you the program requested. Must be down at moment
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It's available now, Carol's bit starts at 35mins in
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Bother I'm going to be out then - anyone seen anything about a reapeat on one of the other BBC channels - I'd hate to miss it. :'(
Mary, is it the whole series you will miss due to other commitments or just the first episode on the 5th?
I can record it, zap it onto a dvd and post it to you to watch before the following weeks episode if it is the latter?
Sam
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Yippe. Have reminder set. Hope it is good. James Martins series was dissapointing, altho I could just watch him all day with the sound down. Am looking forward to this, especially as it will be before we all really start this years growing, so it should get us all itchy fingered and inspired to get going.
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You can look at preview video clips of the program on the BBC website, following the gardening link She is very enthusiastic. Looks good
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;D Thanks for letting me know its on.Cheers!!
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Now listened to the radio clip. Learnt something just from that. Also watched the previews on each episode and learnt something from some of them too. Wonder what I'll learn from the series ::)
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I'm looking forward to this, thanks! :)
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Thanks one to watch - will have to get remote off other half !!
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Thank you YP that is a very kind offer, it is just this Friday I am out so will make sure I see the rest of the series.
KT as I also misssed the Woman's Hour interview would really like to know what you learned from it. I shall view the clips later on the website.
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Things I learnt...
Been um-ming and arring about raised beds. She said crop ratio is increased but downside is that raised beds need more watering. In this drought spells we keep having maybe its not such a good idea. ???
She also showed a different way to sow carrots. I will give that a go for definite as carrots are touch and go on our site. :D
Also learnt how to protect seedlings in the ground whilst waiting to germinate. Place holly or other prickly cut-offs over them till the shoots are through. Natural deterrant for predators >:(
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Been um-ming and arring about raised beds. She said crop ratio is increased but downside is that raised beds need more watering. In this drought spells we keep having maybe its not such a good idea. ???
<brace for rant> 8)
Our deep beds (no edges) were heavily mulched last summer but NOT watered. So-called 'thirsty' crops like beans, toms, lettuce and spuds cropped well through the drought and beyond, and the soil was always moist enough to plant into under the mulch. Deep beds don't 'need' more watering - less if anything, because if mulched, the undug, untrodden soil structure holds water better, like a sponge!
sorry to rant but I hope the programme explains 'raised beds need more watering' in a little more detail ::)
what was the different way to sow carrots kaytee?
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i agree with everything you said, our raised bed only needed watering for crops like lettuce, celeriac, peas when podding up, less when we'd mulched, and only when it was very dry, 'did that ever happen or was it a dream ?'
also, as ours are boarded up, with a piece of wood in the corner, i can actually sit and weed ;D
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Thank you YP that is a very kind offer, it is just this Friday I am out so will make sure I see the rest of the series.
Erm, I'm not sure if that's a yes please or a no thank you ??? ;D
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thank you manicscousers, you do start to doubt yourself in front of the experts eh?
also, as ours are boarded up, with a piece of wood in the corner, i can actually sit and weed ;D
oooo lush! ;D
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If there was a phone in you could give her a run for her money.... put her on the spot.
I will llisten closely to see if she expands on her comments on the clip.
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As a Carol Klein fan :-* will be defiantly watching this, i find her love for gardening infectious.A deep(no edges)bed fan also with the time i save with not watering i get a longer tea break. ;)
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thank you manicscousers, you do start to doubt yourself in front of the experts eh?
by supersprout
well, you know what they say about experts, don't you, old cliche
has-been drip under pressure
I sometimes think that allotment holders are much more expert than the so called professionals !!, that's my rant out of the way ;D
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Erm, I'm not sure if that's a yes please or a no thank you ??? ;D
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Erm it's a sort of 'I would really like to see the programme but it it an awful lot of trouble to put you to for one programme so I can't really expect you to do it but it's ever so kind of you to offer cos I wouldn't even know where to start putting it on a CD and as long as everyone on this site talks about what was in the programme I can probably sort of get the gist' ................................. if you see what I mean!!!
:) :) :) :)
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Petals I hope your as confussed as I am, I had that one pencilled in for tomorrow kt so thanks for that. PS Petals only 22 days to the big day. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :-*
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I almost screamed with excitement
blimey, that's what people do when they see me, at least I assume it's exitement :o
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For those peeps, like me, who will miss friday's programme, it is being repeated on Monday at 7.30pm so no need to miss out!
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Wonder how many of us will be on line tomorrow at 8.30 ?????????? :) :) :)
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The main thing that makes "raised beds" raised - is all the compost added over the years .......which gradually means the soil retains more moisture and needs less watering . But I have no supports round mine as they make perfect homes for the slugs and all their mates....
LOUISE
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Wonder how many of us will be on line tomorrow at 8.30 ?????????? :) :) :)
Wonder how many will be online straight after the program?? chitter chatter chitter chatter.... ;)
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I should be online regardless, I will not have watched the programme ... :)
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could not have put it better Stella. :)
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The main thing that makes "raised beds" raised - is all the compost added over the years .......which gradually means the soil retains more moisture and needs less watering . But I have no supports round mine as they make perfect homes for the slugs and all their mates....
hear hear! ;D
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Tonights the night then.
Bloody hell SS. What you doing up at 04.00hrs. Dont you sleep :o
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just seen Carol talking about tonight's programme, says you can grow all the veggies you need from a 3x3 metre bed, what on earth are we doing with all this land then ? ;D
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:)
big article on this programme in the new issue of kitchen garden.
carol presents the prog from her home in Devon but draws on experience from RHS gardens in Devon and Yorkshire.
The people in the series are mainly first time growers, in many cases they've never grown anything before.
wonder if we will learn anything :P /.shades x
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been watching clips of the programme on BBC 2 gardening website,
I love Carol she is sooo enthusiastic/ shades x
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I hope it's better then last nights Gardener of the year 2006. :(
It wasn't very good was it? :-\ I was a bit disappointed with the end results (says me who has exotic species living in her jungle) I was very much looking forward to how all of the garden plans were going to turn out as our garden is unfortunately about as small as those being used to I was hoping for some good ideas.
Petals I hope your as confussed as I am, I had that one pencilled in for tomorrow kt so thanks for that. PS Petals only 22 days to the big day. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :-*
Just 20 days til I am 21 again <sigh> Answer your PMs! Make that PM, cos I only sent one ;D
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OMG!!
I just happened to look at this post - 10 minutes before start of programme!! I would have forgotten...
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She's a bit OTT isn't she?
T'would annoy me to death..... ;)
Bit disappointed TBH, but will persevere next week.
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well ????? what did you all think ?
I quite enjoyed it but i wish she'd have chosen someone with precious little sun and rotten soil. I'd have volunteered !
Clever OH has managed to "tape" it on the computer for me too.
I'm almost persuaded to find a corner for some jerusalem artichokes though !
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Not as good as I was expecting. :(
Rather disapointed. Will see what is revealed next week.
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Found it a bit disjointed and she only covered three things in perfect conditions - but will see what she has got to offer next week :( :(
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Hmmmm, all is could hear was THAT MUSIC!!!! It annoyed me so much, I found it hard to concentrate on the content! >:(
A bit disappointed overall, a bit fragmented, I'm not sure total beginners would be tempted to have a go. The preperation of the soil and making the raised beds were made to look dead easy though; they really lucked out on the soil front.
Still, it's a programme about veg, so that's good! ;D
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Guess it is intended to spark off enthusiasm in first time growers - lull them into a false sense of comfort until they face hard reality more like ::) Have to agree about the music and the "arty" camera shots" AND the family they chose run a Fitness Business so they are already going to be toned and supple (like us!!).
After all that criticism - at least it is a programme about growing veg so I'll probably watch it. Carol's enthusiasm always seems genuine and she does get her hands dirty bless her!
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I thought it looked beautiful, but it was showing robins and lines of pegs when she was talking about how to do something, so how helpful it would be to a beginner I don't know.
I found the way the camera never focussed on what they were doing very frustrating - I mean exactly what shape was the RHS bed? I think it might have been L-shaped but it was difficult to be sure.
Overall it was more about the camera person doing tricksy things than being a useful programme that taught new things.
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I thought it looked beautiful, but it was showing robins and lines of pegs when she was talking about how to do something, so how helpful it would be to a beginner I don't know.
I found the way the camera never focussed on what they were doing very frustrating - I mean exactly what shape was the RHS bed? I think it might have been L-shaped but it was difficult to be sure.
Overall it was more about the camera person doing tricksy things than being a useful programme that taught new things.
Spot on.
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does anyone else get as excited as Carol did when she went to lift her spuds!!!! :)
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does anyone else get as excited as Carol did when she went to lift her spuds!!!! :)
Just pleased to get the veg that hasnt been taken by disease or beasties
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I'm disappointed. It wasn't nearly as informative as I'd hoped it would be. The articles I've read about it suggested it would inspire people to grow veg but I doubt that, somehow. Nice to look at but not really inspirational
The highlight for me was when my husband choked on his coffee at the old guy asking Carol if she wanted her a*** stroked. No dear, he said 'artichokes'. Nearly got him interested in the lottie there ::)
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The highlight for me was when my husband choked on his coffee at the old guy asking Carol if she wanted her a*** stroked. No dear, he said 'artichokes'. Nearly got him interested in the lottie there ::)
Strangely enough, my OH (watching under suffrance) said exactly the same thing!
Men eh..... ;)
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The highlight for me was when my husband choked on his coffee at the old guy asking Carol if she wanted her a*** stroked. No dear, he said 'artichokes'. Nearly got him interested in the lottie there ::)
Strangely enough, my OH (watching under suffrance) said exactly the same thing!
Men eh..... ;)
Shouldn't have corrected him, I might have got a few days digging out of it :)
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I have to say I must be in the minority I actually enjoyed it, or just call me nosey! ;)
liked how it gave us a look at carol's garden, trully lovely, she doesn't patronise like some other gardening presenters out there.
I was chuckling away when she got so excited about her crop of potatoes, reminds of how i was when i got my first crop, in fact when I get any crop. want to show it all off to the world, ha ha.
The site featured at harlow carr actually lays on a bit of a slope, we visited at the beginning of december and all I can remember seeing were a few herbs, garlic and some leeks... and a fair few hybrid dandelions! ::) Look forward to visiting it later this year to see it all in full growth.
trina
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I am another one who gets excited like that when harvesting my crops. ;D
It was okay, not earth shattering. I flicked over to the final of Worlds Strongest Man which was much more exciting. ;D Those Jamie Oliver/Nigella Lawson out of focus, funny angles, close up of things which aren't relevant drive me mad. It has tempted me to get some JA for the plot, but with all these shows they seem to find someone with pots of cash and lovely ground....not like me, skint with rough old London clay. However, as you have all said, it's about veggies, so I will stay tuned next week.
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B*G*ER....I missed it!
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You didn't miss much :o :o.
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I was a bit disappointed too, although I do really like Carol and her enthusiasm is brilliant. Loved her garden - it's gorgeous. Hoping it'll go into a little more detail next week.
Anyone got any spare JAs ?
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..... It has tempted me to get some JA for the plot,...
I had never had anything to do with JAs before. Now I know what they are - dont think I'll bother. Dont fancy 'em taking over the plot or expanding over the area I want to contain them.
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After all the reminders ..... I forgot!!! :o :o
Sudden unexpected visitors demanding dinner with menaces. :'(
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Hopefully they were more entertaining..... ::)
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My allotment neighbour grows them and she just digs up what she needs throughout the winter, and whatever gets left behind provides next years crop. They are in a small clump and have never gone mad. I think if I did acquire any, I would plant them at the bottom end of plot number two which is shady but damp. They could take over really and I would get the benefit of the artichokes. I used to think they tasted like celery/aniseed. Is this not the case then?
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I think they are a rather bland taste - like turnips? When cooked very lightly, as in stir frying, they stay crunchy and remind me of water chestnuts ... my favourite way of eating them. If you want to use them in bulk, use supersprout's idea of steaming them in their skins then squeezing them out afterwards ...
They do have a noted property though ...
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I missed it too, and video not working so I'm glad it wasn't much cop as the general consensus of opinion seems to be. AND we lost at cards so a cr*p evening all round here. >:( ;D
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I get the impression that programme makers believe all the arty-farty MTV camera angles will get the younger generation engaged in the subject, far too boring to show a simple picture of whatever it is they're talking about, the attention span is down to about 12 seconds these days.
I think they are very wrong
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..... It has tempted me to get some JA for the plot,...
I had never had anything to do with JAs before. Now I know what they are - dont think I'll bother. Dont fancy 'em taking over the plot or expanding over the area I want to contain them.
Oh please don't dismiss them yet kaytee :o :'( this business about JAs taking over isn't so bad, just like dealing with spud 'volunteers' - clear as thoroughly as you can when harvesting, then pull them out pronto the following year when they sprout.
I've had variable experiences with Jerusalem Artichokes over the years - invasiveness, small size, indifferent taste, pain for the scullery maid. Last year's huge success solved those with a gorgeous variety, generous spacing and mulching) we'll plant a couple of beds with them every year - two beds, 1m apart = twelve plants = two a month dug from November to April.
At this luxurious spacing (recommended in a 1960's Shewell-Cooper book) you can get all the tubers from the plant out easily, and the soil is well conditioned and deep dug for next year's root crops of carrot, parsnip and carrot (accidental digging for harvest don't count as digging IMO :P ;))
Large tubers are a doddle to scrub and peel for stir fries and roasties, and medium/small are easy to scrub and steam medium/small 'uns and squidge out of their skins for soups and stews. Even if you only grow one or two magnificent plants next year, your family will be able to enjoy several feeds to see if you get on with them.
If you want to try some of these beauts in the kitchen first, I'd be happy to send you a lil package ... pm me if interested :D
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The robin was good :) On a serious note ..Does any one on here plant tatties 6inch apart ? .. This ain't a critisism I just wondered ...Cheers Jim
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The program was like one long preview clip :'(.And who puts on a scarf like that
when ya put ya spuds in,apart from Dr WHO that is ::). As much as i like Carol Klein i think this time she got it wrong. ???
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I was a bit disappointed in this as well it seemed to have no good advice
ie JA's
No mention of the fact that if you eat to many you are going to suffer with either bad stomach aches or bad smells (or both)
How to plant etc spacing etc
and what was the bit about putting spuds 6" apart? never heard so much rubbish but then again did you see how small her spuds were when she dug them up.
Finally she then demonstrated a bean trench (which I thought looked good) but then mad no mention about planting seeds in it - depth, spacing, direct/pot etc
I thought it was rubbish but will watch the rest of the series as theres nothing better on TV
bit jealous of her house & garden though!
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Was a bit disapointed after the big build up even though it was great to see something dedicated to veggie growing. I agree it was very arty, with fancy camera shots and groovy music and birds and cats, when I could have done with a bit more practical advice. We were puzzled by her potato planting, and she really skipped over the JA bit, and didn't explain what sort of soil it was in, how deep to plant them how far apart - or did my eyes glaze over at that point and I missed it?
It could improve and I like the different projects that are being undertaken, and I also do like Carol Klein and it is nice to see a woman growing vegetables for a change, so I am reserving judgement. :) busy_lizzie
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Missed it, don't know if anyone saw me on TV on the worlds strongest man I was the third contestant ;D ;D ;D ;D. Seems I didn't miss much but are there any repeats gotta see it for myself I suppose. Potatoes 6inches my a#s 10/12 inches more like but what do I know. ;D ;D ;D ;D :-*
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Very, very disappointed with it camera work was terrable, for people that have eye sight what is not what it used to be it is very frustrating when they do this out of focus thing with the camera. Also i picked up on spuds being planted 6" apart never heard anything like it much to close I would say, and her saying to set spuds when the grass starts growing, in that case I must be a bit late because my grass as not stopped growing.Why on the subject of spuds how come when Carol dug hers all you seen was one potato then a load of potatoes came rolling in from the right to where she was digging to make believe she had a good crop. I do hope it will improve next week was really looking forward to it and I feel badly let down.
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Have to agree with most of what's been said- I like CK but was disappointed with the programme. Had an e-mail from RHS today- they have got a website running alongside the series:
http://www.rhs.org.uk/vegetables/ (http://www.rhs.org.uk/vegetables/)
Hopefully more informative than the programme! But I will still watch it, & hope it gets better.
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It was a programme aimed at beginners, not experts. I thought it was a good entertaining programme that would appeal to non-growers and was a pleasant programme to watch for those of us who do grow. There is no pleasing some people. Always moaning that there are no programmes about veg growing, and when there is, all you do is slag it off. What do you want - list it here and it might find it's way onto UK Living because the depth we go into, just will not appeal to a large enough number of the viewing public to warrant time on a peak channel at a peak time. I have deleted this bit as it was typed in the heat of the moment but the general view remains.
Read it while you can, it won't last long.
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It was a programme aimed at beginners, not experts. I thought it was a good entertaining programme that would appeal to non-growers and was a pleasant programme to watch for those of us who do grow. There is no pleasing some people. Always moaning that there are no programmes about veg growing, and when there is, all you do is slag it off. What do you want - list it here and it might find it's way onto UK Living because the depth we go into, just will not appeal to a large enough number of the viewing public to warrant time on a peak channel at a peak time. I really do think a large number of people on this board need to drag their heads out of their own arses and live in the real world. Not their idealised view of middle Britain >:(
Read it while you can, it won't last long.
Why ever not?
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don't remember putting my head up my ar*e, just voicing an opinion :)
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Ack, was rather hoping you'd all ignore the obvious attempt to troll and flame and let it die a deserved death :-\
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:) well said /shades x
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I am not flaming - just staing it how I see it. I have been on this board for two years now and have seen a lot of griping about how there are no veg programmes on TV (a lot by some (but not all, scousers) by people who have posted here) and now there is one, people are just moaning about it. Some people on here have nothing good to say about anything that does not fit into their own narrow view of how things should be. I do not share that, and see nothing wrong with saying things how I see them. I do not include you in the narrow mindedc set YP.
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So what are you suggesting? We should take what we're given however crap it is? Tough, if I don't like something I don't like it
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But, it is not aimed at us, it is aimed at non-growers (it's in the title). :-\ Tis not for us to like or not like. Noone will bother making programmes about veg growing if all that happens is poeple slag them off. It happened with the allotment programmes as well. It happens everytime GW grow some veggies. Why do they bother?
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:) I love CK, but the only part of this programme I enjoyed was her excitement at digging up her spuds,thats how I act ;D
everything else was a disappointment , having read kitchen garden magazine this month I expected more.
I will still watch next week as I like the presenter :)/shades x
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I would have liked more from the programme but I recognise it for what it was. As you said, you read KG. The programme was aimed at people who have never heard of KG.
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I wonder if any of the BBC workers have looked at this site - at this thread would be good. Would be interesting for their view on here.
Just hope the documentary getting done by one of the satelite channels, UK gardening I think, is better than this.
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I saw it and thought it was brilliant! It was beautifully shot and it's bound to get more people growing their own.
They may have been a little thin on the detail, but the trouble with vegetable cultivation is it can be frightfully nerdy - e.g. http://www.rhs.org.uk/vegetables/crops/tomatoVideo.asp (http://www.rhs.org.uk/vegetables/crops/tomatoVideo.asp). Although I would love the BBC to give me some useful information on the habits of the pea moth and whether lime can prevent onion white rot, this wouldn't make especially gripping prime time television.
Perhaps it made growing vegetables look a little easier than it actually is, but I'm sure the series will get lots of people outdoors, doing and eating new things, and this can't be a bad thing.
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what I worry about, redclanger, will some people be put off airing their views because they'll be 'told off',
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Perhaps , I should have just posted here what I posted elsewhere:
In response to the question:
Was it any good?
Yes - nothing earth shattering on the advice front (well we do all know it all ;D ) but she was infectiously enthusiastic - good girly whoops and giggles when she dug her first RDoY, and a smattering of Nick Drake thrown in :)
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It was a programme aimed at beginners, not experts. I thought it was a good entertaining programme that would appeal to non-growers and was a pleasant programme to watch for those of us who do grow. There is no pleasing some people. Always moaning that there are no programmes about veg growing, and when there is, all you do is slag it off. What do you want - list it here and it might find it's way onto UK Living because the depth we go into, just will not appeal to a large enough number of the viewing public to warrant time on a peak channel at a peak time. I have deleted this bit as it was typed in the heat of the moment but the general view remains.
Read it while you can, it won't last long.
Well, I am a virtual non grower (have had the allotment for three weeks, and haven't planted anything, ever) and watched it with my husband, who is also a non-grower, and we both thought it was disappointing. We were totally uninspired. For us, the programme didn't seem to have much content - as someone else said, it seemed like one long trailer.
I don't have my head stuck where you suggest, and I do live in the real world. I don't think the show's producers do, though. How real is it to feature two gardeners with large weedless south facing gardens, the money to splash on a lovely big greenhouse, lovely soil... if anything, that makes vegetable growing seem even more out of my reach
I realise that they couldn't have gone into the sort of detail that an experienced grower would like, but there was no detail at all.
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Last year's huge success solved those with a gorgeous variety
I gather you are referring to Fuseau ... ? This is my first year with them, but a definite thumbs up, I have still to try them roasted, but the stir fries are an absolute winner ...
Derek
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t was a programme aimed at beginners, not experts. I thought it was a good entertaining programme that would appeal to non-growers and was a pleasant programme to watch for those of us who do grow. There is no pleasing some people. Always moaning that there are no programmes about veg growing, and when there is, all you do is slag it off. What do you want - list it here and it might find it's way onto UK Living because the depth we go into, just will not appeal to a large enough number of the viewing public to warrant time on a peak channel at a peak time. I really do think a large number of people on this board need to drag their heads out of their own arses and live in the real world. Not their idealised view of middle Britain Angry
Read it while you can, it won't last long.
I wanted to like it, RC, but it was, basically, crap.
I will watch next week in the hope that it will get better, but if I was a non-grower right now, it would probably have had the effect of making me run a million miles from ever doing it.
God knows there are loads of this type of programme about ( for anyone that has Sky), and they vary immensely in their quality (eg Victorian Kitchen Garden vs Garden Rivals), but I was hoping that CK and her down to earth style would make this one of the better ones.
How wrong I was.
Is she not really down to earth, or was she told to do a Jade Goody before she went on camera? Either way, I just found her annoying (and yes, I know this is a personal thing). No one could be that delighted with what she harvested. Even her husband seemed a little embarrassed with her 'enthusiasm'.
And the camera work? 5th grade student stuff. No use to man nor beast. How did they make the beds again? ???
And it didn't really give one overriding reason to grow your own veg!!!!
Did it tell anyone how to grow anything? Not really, unless you want spuds you need to weigh in grams.
And Middle Britain Angry? Get yer own head out of your arse. I'm sorry if you had something to do with the programme (sorry for you that is) but if you did, tough. It was poor.
And I really, really hope it gets better...... ::)
And sorry, YP, for responding to the bait. Just had to be done.
PS Do you think Titchmarsh would have come up with this standard of stuff? Or Geoff Hamilton?
I could go on.
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RC you say you are just stating as you see it, well is that what everyone else on here is doing, as for it being for beginners who have not grown anything before she did not show how to grow anything, only potatoes which most people on here would disagree to the distant she planted them at.
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we had some new allotment holders at the AGM this morning, they watched it in the hopes of learning something, luckily, we have Eric. :)
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Now I'm confused, should I as a veg grower have boycotted this programme because it wasn't AIMED at me?
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Now I'm confused, should I as a veg grower have boycotted this programme because it wasn't AIMED at me?
No, you should have been employed as a pundit. ;D ;D ;D
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RC you say you are just stating as you see it, well is that what everyone else on here is doing, as for it being for beginners who have not grown anything before she did not show how to grow anything, only potatoes which most people on here would disagree to the distant she planted them at.
The gist I got from the Beeb website is that it is different veg each week - think I would have preferred a season by season basis for a variety of veg. And no MT, not boyocott it, watch it (or not) knowing that it is not going to teach you anything new. TBH, there are so many different views about different ways of growing things (see the raised bed thread) that a programme a day for a year would not cover it all. In an introductory programme about the benefits and pleasure of growing veg over six programmes, we are never going to get the detail we want. Sometimes, you just have to be happy with what you get and hope that it sways a few people to join us. Get the intricacies from books and websites - that is why we are all here anyway isn't it? Does anybody think the contents of this site could be condensed into 6 half hours?
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hmm, well I consider myself a beginner and I didn't pick up any useful tips from the programme.
I did quite like the old cine style camera work, but hoped to gain more knowledge about preparation for planting, different techniques, tips etc.
I see nothing wrong with expessing disappointment with a programme's content - it is called Grow Your Own Veg after all and therefore I think it would be perfectly reasonable to learn some of the techniques involved.
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Well i've just watched the first prog (having recorded it last night while we went out for a few bevvies ;D), and i actually quite enjoyed it! I must admit to being a bit anxious having read this thread before watching it, but was pleasantly suprised. I didn't like the music, it was totally unnecessary and v annoying, and often too loud to hear what she was saying properly but it didn't totally spoil the prog as far as i'm concerned.
Perhaps the idea of the series is to spark an interest in people, who will then look in books and on forums such as this for further info & advice as to how to do it successfully? If so, then i think it will have achieved something if not turning us all into fully fledged professional veg growers inside six episodes.
I think it's healthy for everyone to have their own opinion, and to be able to exchange them on a forum such as this, after all 'it wouldn't do if we were all the same' as my granma says! But seriously, i think it's important to agree to disagree sometimes and not resort to trading insults etc, so let's have an amnesty now and all live happily ever after? :P x
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I saw it and thought it was brilliant! It was beautifully shot and it's bound to get more people growing their own.......
Although I would love the BBC to give me some useful information on the habits of the pea moth and whether lime can prevent onion white rot, this wouldn't make especially gripping prime time television.
They did say at the end of the program that there was a book on the series - if you loved it that much ::)
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They did say at the end of the program that there was a book on the series - if you loved it that much ::)
So if ya wont to know more then buy the book..... ::)
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This is the first opportunity I've had to get online what with the problems with mom. Well I must say that this programme has got you all going if not teaching you anything. I was only able to watch it last night. I didn't learn anything that I would put into practice. I watched it as if I was a first time grower (like my daughter Bunjy). There were a few things that she mentioned i.e. deep beds and their advantages. I do think that she should have talked more about different soil types and what to do to make your soil better. She did mention that she hadn't had the time to grow her own veg for many years. Perhaps she should have waited for a couple of seasons and she would have refreshed her knowledge about veggies. We had a 10 year break in growing our own and it's surprising just how much we had forgotten.Needless to say after a few weeks on here and digesting a lot of the sometimes diverse advice, we are now plotting along just great. I do like Carol and I do hope that the programme is a success and at least helps some of the folks out there' but in my opinion they would be better to get on this site if they really want to learn anything. BTW I watched the programme about Kew before and the compost on there was so yummy. lol
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I think any programme about 'a subject' is subject to the same problems.
I'm sure anyone involved in airlines cringes at the easyjet programmes, I know I laugh at all the technology stuff on TV.
If it helps draw people into the world of vegetable growing then it is a good thing, once they are needing more detailed answers, they can search out websites like this!
I'm going to lock this thread as sometimes that is the only way!
Cheers
Dan