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Title: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on September 28, 2006, 14:50:24
This is the main plan...which may obviously change...and some bits i haven't really decided what to do with yet...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/wahaj17/plan2.jpg)

This is view from behind just to give a rough scale of things and how they work out:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/wahaj17/plan1.jpg)

This is a bit more details of the raised beds. I haven't really drawn many individual plants....just to give a rough idea of what sort of colours i want etc...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/wahaj17/plan3.jpg)

what do you think?

the main reason i drew these is really for something for me to work towards. because since may i've just been sowing stuff...and then putting them in the ground where i had space and it's all looking a bit random.

have any of you guys drawn out any plans in your head or paper?
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: Tulipa on September 28, 2006, 15:52:25
Wow, that looks brilliant, looks like you should take up garden design!   :)  T.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: cambourne7 on September 28, 2006, 16:14:58
HI

Yep that looks ace.

I would only make 1 alteration ( and thats because i am a little obsessed )

I would replace the tall grass in the second picture with either a tree peony or a fruit tree :-)

L
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on September 28, 2006, 17:53:46
HI

Yep that looks ace.

I would only make 1 alteration ( and thats because i am a little obsessed )

I would replace the tall grass in the second picture with either a tree peony or a fruit tree :-)

L

yea i did thin about that because i originally wanted to go with a lilac tree or maybe a magnolia....but because the garden is already so sheltered....due to a hedge all the way round and a huge cherry tree...i don't want to add anything that willl impose too much shade over the garden. with the pampas...it's very low growing till it flowers and even then they're very translucent.

is there anything i can use that might not impose to much shade instead of the pampas?
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: Palustris on September 28, 2006, 21:27:38
There are better grasses than Pampas grass, some of the Miscanthus are much lighter and airier and have better flowering colour.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: flossie on September 28, 2006, 21:32:45
Beautiful picture - looks like a design for a theatre set...
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: MrsKP on September 29, 2006, 22:04:47
erm.............. and where exactly are the carrots going ???   ::)

JOKE! 

can we all come to the opening ?

 ;D
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on September 29, 2006, 22:54:27
Beautiful picture - looks like a design for a theatre set...

thanks :)
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on September 29, 2006, 22:55:08
erm.............. and where exactly are the carrots going ???   ::)

JOKE! 

can we all come to the opening ?

 ;D

oh they'll probs go in the back yard outside the greenhouse. because i do plant on growing them!
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: MrsKP on September 29, 2006, 22:56:57
is this just the front garden then !   :o
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on September 29, 2006, 23:28:30
is this just the front garden then !   :o

yea lol. but the back garden is smaller than the front garden.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: MrsKP on September 29, 2006, 23:38:02
cheese, if i had a front garden like that it would get nicked !!

 :D
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: cambourne7 on September 30, 2006, 00:23:30
Hi

Other than alternative grasses i could recomend something like bamboo which would give you some nice sound or Alternativly what about a water feature???

Something like this http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1_7&products_id=25 can be acheived cheaply

Pop a large contaner to hold the pump and water inside your raised bed.

Add some metal sheeting that does not quite cover the hole so the water can spill over and create your upright structure by getting hold of squares of glass on top of each other cut a hole in the middle of each and drop a pipe in to connect it to the pump below.  You will need to think about using a sealent to hold them in place and stop them getting loose in high wind.

You can then plant bamboo behind it???

L
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on September 30, 2006, 16:15:45
cheese, if i had a front garden like that it would get nicked !!

 :D

lol. yes i am getting a metal gate put in aswell. i as "i am"....but it's one of my...wishes lol.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on September 30, 2006, 16:16:30
Hi

Other than alternative grasses i could recomend something like bamboo which would give you some nice sound or Alternativly what about a water feature???

Something like this http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1_7&products_id=25 can be acheived cheaply

Pop a large contaner to hold the pump and water inside your raised bed.

Add some metal sheeting that does not quite cover the hole so the water can spill over and create your upright structure by getting hold of squares of glass on top of each other cut a hole in the middle of each and drop a pipe in to connect it to the pump below.  You will need to think about using a sealent to hold them in place and stop them getting loose in high wind.

You can then plant bamboo behind it???

L

yea! that sounds kewl. i've got one of those tiny variegated bamboos...so i do like them.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: Barnowl on October 06, 2006, 09:56:03
How about "Heavenly Bamboo" - Nadina Domestica? It isn't actually a bamboo...


"An interesting medium-sized shrub, sometimes used in the manufacture of chop-sticks, looking superficially just like a Bamboo with long, erect, unbranched stems. In June and July it bears large, attractive panicles of white flowers followed by red berries. Hardy in all but the coldest districts."

Search for Nadina Domestica on Google Images for pictures
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 06, 2006, 22:21:37
How about "Heavenly Bamboo" - Nadina Domestica? It isn't actually a bamboo...


"An interesting medium-sized shrub, sometimes used in the manufacture of chop-sticks, looking superficially just like a Bamboo with long, erect, unbranched stems. In June and July it bears large, attractive panicles of white flowers followed by red berries. Hardy in all but the coldest districts."

Search for Nadina Domestica on Google Images for pictures


ooh that looks nice.

Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: ACE on October 06, 2006, 22:49:49
As your patio doors are to the left and I expect that is where you will sit on the patio. I feel you are in danger of not seeing a lot of your garden. Ideally you should have your main point of interest/focal point from where you would normally look at the garden. Have a try at moving your design diagonally and try not to split your garden in two.

Do not spoil it all with a washing line, get a retractable one that dissapears whe not in use.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 06, 2006, 22:54:51
As your patio doors are to the left and I expect that is where you will sit on the patio. I feel you are in danger of not seeing a lot of your garden. Ideally you should have your main point of interest/focal point from where you would normally look at the garden. Have a try at moving your design diagonally and try not to split your garden in two.

Do not spoil it all with a washing line, get a retractable one that dissapears whe not in use.

oh um....i havent got a washing line in there.

and on the last pic you might be able to see the bench...it's in front of the water feature. i don't use any furniture on the patio. it's a very busy area where everyone walks in an out of and it would block the way really.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: ACE on October 06, 2006, 23:12:08
I was only assuming the line and seating. Most people forget about the washing.

Nice garden, If you are like me and have been planting in availiable spaces try and remember which plants done well. Try and get them as near as they were when you replant. Which direction does the garden face? and does it get hot. The reason I ask is that because of the hot weather that is predicted to get warmer, go for more drough resistant plants, and make sure your water does not discolour with too much sunlight.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 06, 2006, 23:46:58
I was only assuming the line and seating. Most people forget about the washing.

Nice garden, If you are like me and have been planting in availiable spaces try and remember which plants done well. Try and get them as near as they were when you replant. Which direction does the garden face? and does it get hot. The reason I ask is that because of the hot weather that is predicted to get warmer, go for more drough resistant plants, and make sure your water does not discolour with too much sunlight.

i don't use a washing line. i use a tumble dryer. even in the summer lol.

the raised bed most of the time is in part shade so that's kewl. and the bed near the patio will be in part shade aswell once the trellises go up and get covered with plants.

i'm not too sure where the garden faces. i haven't got a compass so i tried the thing where the moss grows on the north side. to be honest there isn't much moss growing anywhere in my garden so i found it difficult. i *think* it's west facing.

and the water will be in part shade aswell.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: MrsKP on October 07, 2006, 06:53:21
i borrow my neighbour's washing line.  i call it payment in kind (for digging/using her beds).

she's not complained yet !!   ;D
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: supersprout on October 07, 2006, 09:40:44
I use an old fashioned pulley type squeeky squeeky rack in the kitchen to dry washing. The whirligig washing line in our communal garden is three flights of stairs away, somehow it don't seem worth it :-\
Back on topic - whirligigs do work and aren't too horrid to look at :)
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: ACE on October 07, 2006, 16:43:02
whirligigs do work and aren't too horrid to look at :)

Go and wash your mouth out ;D
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: supersprout on October 07, 2006, 16:45:34
 :-[ (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e220/supersprout/smilies/angel12.gif)
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 07, 2006, 20:14:09
i think washing lines are too unpredictable. the wind blows them around a bit too much sometimes. sometimes you find your clothes in your flower beds regardless of what types of pegs you get. sometimes birds poo on the clothes....sometimes someone's burning something and the smell of smoke gets into the clothes. sometimes it starts raining...or sometimes you don't bring them in on time and they get really stiff. and it you can never tell how long they need to dry because some days aren't as sunny as others.

and there aren't any i've seen that aren't an eye sore.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: Hyacinth on October 07, 2006, 21:50:57

i'm not too sure where the garden faces. i haven't got a compass so i tried the thing where the moss grows on the north side. to be honest there isn't much moss growing anywhere in my garden so i found it difficult. i *think* it's west facing.


Top Tip Wahaj.....the sun rises in the east and sets in the west..... ;)  ;D

btw.....you got the vouchers for the heathers OK?
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 08, 2006, 08:05:50

i'm not too sure where the garden faces. i haven't got a compass so i tried the thing where the moss grows on the north side. to be honest there isn't much moss growing anywhere in my garden so i found it difficult. i *think* it's west facing.


Top Tip Wahaj.....the sun rises in the east and sets in the west..... ;)  ;D

btw.....you got the vouchers for the heathers OK?

this is true. whenever i've tried that...it's been on a cloudy morning so i'm not really too sure as to where the sun is, lol.

and yes thanks! i got the vouchers! i'll be sending my dad down there tommorow mornin!
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: shirlton on October 08, 2006, 09:56:24
I would love to move into a house with an empty garden so that I could start all over again. I really love the hit and miss effort. It's more exciting even if at times it proves disastrous. I'm a gemini so perhaps thats why I like to change things all the time. The allotment gives me a little more ground to play with but I'm still not satisfied. Your garden design looks fantastic. Have you had any training in design or does it come naturally. I do agree however that you need some water in the garden if only to have somewhere to plant your iris.lol
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 08, 2006, 12:34:44
I would love to move into a house with an empty garden so that I could start all over again. I really love the hit and miss effort. It's more exciting even if at times it proves disastrous. I'm a gemini so perhaps thats why I like to change things all the time. The allotment gives me a little more ground to play with but I'm still not satisfied. Your garden design looks fantastic. Have you had any training in design or does it come naturally. I do agree however that you need some water in the garden if only to have somewhere to plant your iris.lol

nah! no one needs training in design! i've been watching gardening programs for years and seen other people's gardens etc. i mean this isn't my drem garden because it's pretty small and i'm very restricted with money. so i've had to come up with something that'll give some instant impact to the overall garden and then something i can work on to perfection over the next few years :)

and yea! i've just been diggin for my pond today lol. it's really small but that's good because i don't want some big old thing plunked into my tiny garden. just something to enhace it a little.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: MrsKP on October 08, 2006, 12:36:47
i think "vision" is all you need and you have it in abundence !   ;D
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 08, 2006, 23:02:01
i think "vision" is all you need and you have it in abundence !   ;D

you know the weirdest thing is that i go out to the garden and try to think about what to put where etc but i can never come up with anything i like. i dream about my garden pretty much every night and come up with things there that i just couldn't imagine thinking of when i was concious. i then wake up and surprisingly still remember most of the stuff so when i have a few minutes at work....i draw it out and see if it works.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: cacran on October 21, 2006, 21:24:21
:) Your plans look very professional. I wouldn't go with a Pampas though. I love the shape of them but I had two. They grew far too big. Leaves were very sharp when trying to cut it back. If you walked past it and accidentally touched your clothes against it, they clicked. Very cringy. Now then, getting rid of the beasts??? that was so hard. Cut it back, tried burning the heart of it, dug at it with a spade, sawed it with a handsaw, god it took an age.  My husband had to come to the rescue with what I can only describe as brute force.There are lots of other pleasant shaped structural plants that are less invasive. Good luck anyway.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on October 21, 2006, 22:38:29
Had you thought of putting a fruit tree there?
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 22, 2006, 00:24:29
!!! would people stop bad mouthing pampas? is there anyone in this world that still likes them or did they all die back in the 80s?

seriously...i think they're stunning and i've alsways wanted one.

i did originally want to put a tree there rob. either an acer/lilac/or fruit tree but they all cost more than i have to spend. and the fact that this is a spot right against a conifer fence. i bought the pink pampas for 1.89 at a garden centre and hopefully in a couple of years it'll be really tall and giving me plumes right into winter.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: MrsKP on October 22, 2006, 09:35:14
perhaps plant it with the root in a bucket or similar to restrict the roots ?
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on October 22, 2006, 09:45:03
I like Pampas too, in its place. It's great where there's room for it to develop without getting in anyone's way, but I do wonder about it in small gardens. Still, try it and see.
Title: Re: Plans for my garden...
Post by: wahaj on October 22, 2006, 10:18:23
I like Pampas too, in its place. It's great where there's room for it to develop without getting in anyone's way, but I do wonder about it in small gardens. Still, try it and see.

yea...i'm actually really pleased about the idea that it can't be killed even if someone wanted to. In a couple of years time i plan to leave this house and leave some....fairly low maintenance plants for my family to look after.....and knowing them they'll probably think it's over grown grass and try to chop it down.

and besides...my cherry tree seems to have been suffering from canker for atleast the last 2 years...so that'll probably fall apart soon. I'll plant a nice edible fruit tree there i think.

And mrskp...yea i've dug in one of those metal edging things all around it about 6 inches deep....hopefully that should keep it spreading too much till next year.
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