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Title: Bolting garlic
Post by: Bun on June 03, 2006, 22:27:01
Went down the lottie today & noticed that one of the types of garlic I planted have started to bolt. I pinched off the flower spike, is there anything else to do?

Plus, I noticed that one or two of my spring planted onions are starting to do the same.  Is anyone else having this trouble?
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Curryandchips on June 03, 2006, 22:28:49
Yes it does happen. The particular bulbs that bolt are still usable, but will not keep well in store, so should be used first ...
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: supersprout on June 03, 2006, 22:37:18
It's normal for some types (not all, as you spotted) - just snip the flowers off and they'll be fine :)
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: djbrenton on June 03, 2006, 22:42:03
The stalks are called scapes and are a product of hardneck garlic. If you don't remove them they will reduce the vigour of the plant. They are, on the plus side, a relatively expensive luxury with many recipes for their use.
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: supersprout on June 03, 2006, 22:45:22
The stalks are, on the plus side, a relatively expensive luxury with many recipes for their use.

OMG dj I composted mine :-[ :'( Never again! ::) ;D
the stalks and buds are very tender - hints as to where to find recipes?
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Bun on June 04, 2006, 09:35:43
Thanks guys, I was worried my crop was going to ruin. What a relief! :D
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Hyacinth on June 04, 2006, 13:08:07
I noticed this morning that my elephant garlic had started.....the little buds are inside my roasting chicken as I write 8)
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: supersprout on June 04, 2006, 13:54:34
Oh lish! Don't rub it in! :'( ;)
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Bun on June 04, 2006, 16:08:56
These little buds........do they taste like garlic & other than putting them in a chicken, how else would you cook/eat them?
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Tora on June 04, 2006, 16:23:08
Garlic stalks are really nice in stir fries.
If they are tender I would just stir fry them but if they are tough I would boil it first and then stir fry. They are indeed very much sought after in Japan and China! :P They taste of garlic but very subtle.
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: moonbells on June 04, 2006, 18:35:24
The stalks are, on the plus side, a relatively expensive luxury with many recipes for their use.

OMG dj I composted mine :-[ :'( Never again! ::) ;D
the stalks and buds are very tender - hints as to where to find recipes?

I made pesto with mine last year - YUM!
http://www.reallygarlicky.co.uk/main.html and go to This Month's Recipes and anything with garlic scape in...

I confess to growing Marco garlic simply because it DOES grow scapes! (And large, unfiddly cloves) even if it doesn't store as well. We still get it to last till March.

moonbells
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: supersprout on June 04, 2006, 21:46:07
thank you moonbells! and for the recommendation for Marco - on the list for next year :P ;D
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: moonbells on June 04, 2006, 22:33:44
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

moonbells
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: djbrenton on June 04, 2006, 22:57:02
One of my varieties is Marco too. The scapes I've had from it are quite fiery, in fact they burn the tip of your tongue. Anyone else found it to be stronger than other scapes?
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: pakaba on June 05, 2006, 22:07:41
Hi
Thanks for the tip on using the flower shoots.  went up lottie this eveningand  found that loads of the garlic had bolted since saturday, so pinched stalks off and used them in my curry  ;D ;D ;D  I would never had known to use them if hadn't been for this thread  ;D ;D  they were yummy.

I  live this web site

Paula
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: grawrc on June 05, 2006, 22:17:51
Joy larkcom says that some varieties are meant to flower and it's not a problem just remove the flowers 2-3 weeks before lifting the garlic, however she doesn't say which varieties these are. I have MArco which are all beginning to produce flower buds and thermidrome which ain't.

Should I be removing the buds from Marco or leaving them as she suggests? Or have I misread her??? OMG the metaphysical angst of it all. :o :o
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Hyacinth on June 05, 2006, 22:31:56
OMG the metaphysical angst of it all.

ROFL  ;D ;D ;D

(and no answer - not if it produces such gems as this!!.....)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: suzylou on June 06, 2006, 13:04:57
One of my elephant garlics had a flower stalk on it last night - I lifted the whole bulb same as I'd been told to do with onions.

I take it that was wrong??  ::)

(modified to change the smiley, as it made me look like I was really bad tempered rather than just naive and curious!!)
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 06, 2006, 19:10:56
Just break it off and leave the plant. The bulb ends up significantly larger. Don't worry though; just cook it green.
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: supersprout on June 11, 2006, 11:21:19
The purple garlic were starting to fall over, one by one (white ones still stiff and proud)
So I harvested the lot - it's about a month ahead of when I'd expect to be doing it :o
Out of 80 heads, three were rotten. The rest are in plastic mesh baskets, basking in the sun ;D
Anyone else harvesting this early?
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 11, 2006, 14:37:20
My garlic is all perfectly solid on its stems, but the overwintering onions are keeping over. i lifted a few yesterday to give myself a chance to dig some ground elder out of the bed before my sweet corn went in; elsewhere I'm interplanting it, and I'll lift the onions in a week or two.
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: moonbells on June 11, 2006, 16:08:57
Joy larkcom says that some varieties are meant to flower and it's not a problem just remove the flowers 2-3 weeks before lifting the garlic, however she doesn't say which varieties these are. I have MArco which are all beginning to produce flower buds and thermidrome which ain't.

Should I be removing the buds from Marco or leaving them as she suggests? Or have I misread her??? OMG the metaphysical angst of it all. :o :o

Marco are hardneck - harvest the flowers now, use in stir fries or in making garlic scape pesto - is fantastic on large barbecued mushrooms.

(just made a load last night!)

moonbells
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: mat on June 11, 2006, 16:53:08
Hi SuperSprout.

My Cristo garlic have very thin stems (but gently scraping shows the bulbs to be a good size I believe) and this variety collapsed a few days ago.  I "staked" each one with short canes, thinking it was too early for harvesting...  The other varieties have much thicker stems (but bulbs no larger!) so are all standing firmly.

However, I have just read that I should lift them as soon as they flop over, so I'll lift them later this week.

mat
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Hyacinth on June 12, 2006, 23:57:30
I lifted all my purple wights  this evening. Beauts one and all. 8) The elephant garlics are still standing proud ;D
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Bun on June 13, 2006, 08:55:34
I lifted one of mine that had bolted, just for a looksee really as I've never tried growing them before & was very pleasantly suprised! I don't know which variety it is 'cos the wind blew off all my lables 2 days after I planted them all, but it is a good size & I'm quite chuffed!  ;D
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: redimp on June 13, 2006, 18:24:04
If you leave lifting too late, the bulbs seperate to give each clove a bit of space for next years growth.
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Bun on June 13, 2006, 18:27:18
I jsut opened up that garlic so I could use some in my spag bol & that had started to seperate! Should I lift all of that type?
What would happen if I left them? Whould the individual cloves start to sprout?  ???
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 13, 2006, 19:02:49
Lift it. It'll be OK but the appearance won't be the best. It would sprout eventually.
Title: Re: Bolting garlic
Post by: Bun on June 13, 2006, 20:51:27
OK, thanks.
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