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Title: onions again!!!!
Post by: gunnerbee on February 24, 2006, 10:21:23
Brought some sets the other day, could i start them off in trays then move them on at a later date? do i keep them in a greenhouse? Thanks.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Curryandchips on February 24, 2006, 10:50:19
Yes you could, I understand your eagerness but there is no rush. Planting them out anytime from mid March to the beginning of April will be fine.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Mothy on February 24, 2006, 19:29:05
Thanks Gunnerbee, I was going to ask the same question!!

I have 700 onion sets I want to get in!!

I haven't put my shallots in yet cos it's been so cold, when do they have to be in by?
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: gunnerbee on February 24, 2006, 19:57:18
Not so much of being eager, just had a knee operation and wondered if i could start them in trays because i cant get out in the garden at the moment!!
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 24, 2006, 20:07:58
You can plant them when the weather warms up a bit, no need to worry. Mine are going to sit in the shed till it's a bit less arctic.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: tim on February 24, 2006, 20:15:25
And Mothy - with that number, unless you want exhibition bulbs, plant them close together. Much more useful in the kitchen.
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Post by: djbrenton on February 24, 2006, 22:40:16
One of our 'experts' swears that transplanted sets grow bigger than ones planted straight into the ground.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Mothy on February 25, 2006, 17:36:56
Tim,
Many thanks, exhibition sized onions are certainly not the intention. What spacing do you recommend? I hope to be able to store them in either nets or string them up, does size affect the storage properties of onions?

I lost some larger ones from last years crop that went rotten, most of the smaller ones have been great.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: tim on February 25, 2006, 18:02:19
Liking them small, I put them in about 3" apart.

Don't know, but I can believe that the smaller ones keep better.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: jonny211 on February 27, 2006, 10:41:53
Hiya,

Has anyone grown onions from seed before... I have some 'Bedfordshire Champion' seeds but am wondering whether to sow directly into the ground or start in biodegradeable modules and plop these into the ground at a later date. Also if I start them from seed now will they mature and swell before the frosts come?

All ideas are welcome!

Jon
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: tin can on February 27, 2006, 10:46:39
I like to put my shallots on compost on a seed tray so they start rooting prior to planting out as I find the birds have more trouble tugging them out of the soil.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Zippy Seale on February 27, 2006, 12:59:21
I have red barron sown 2 weeks ago.  I sowed in a seed tray and then into modules when they are 2 inches tall.
seem to be alright.
have to be in the warm to germinate though.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: sandersj89 on February 27, 2006, 13:48:35
Hiya,

Has anyone grown onions from seed before... I have some 'Bedfordshire Champion' seeds but am wondering whether to sow directly into the ground or start in biodegradeable modules and plop these into the ground at a later date. Also if I start them from seed now will they mature and swell before the frosts come?

All ideas are welcome!

Jon

It is normal to sow onion seed early in the year, I started min of in January and they germinated at about 21 days. This is in a warm greenhouse in trays. They will get potted on soon and then into a coldframe prior to planting out.

If you sow them now they will be fine but just a little smaller than normal but some say the smaller onions store better than the large.

HTH

Jerry
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: MikeB on February 27, 2006, 15:51:37
Hiya,

Has anyone grown onions from seed before... I have some 'Bedfordshire Champion' seeds but am wondering whether to sow directly into the ground or start in biodegradeable modules and plop these into the ground at a later date. Also if I start them from seed now will they mature and swell before the frosts come?

All ideas are welcome!

Jon

Sowed my bedfordshire champ on the 13-02-2006 and will pot them on into a ' box ' in about two weeks and then plant out in April after hardening off.

Champs as of now, also the potting on crate and the onion dibber for when I plant out.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: supersprout on February 27, 2006, 16:22:35
Thanks for the pictures MikeB, they help a lot - especially the patent Onion Dibber, did you make it yourself? Love these patent devices lots, would love instructions if you have them ;D
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Post by: Jimmy on February 27, 2006, 16:43:51
What a good idea! Do you have multiple plates with different size dowels for different plantings?
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: MikeB on February 27, 2006, 16:49:18
Hi SS,

It's a 12" x 12" piece of plywood, divided in a 4 by 4 grid i.e. 3" in all directions.  A handful of doweling plugs, drill 16 holes, hammer in dowels.  I use it for transplanting onions and for planting carrot seed.  For the carrot seed it's three seeds per hole, a bit tiresome, but saves thinning out and the risk of carrot fly later in the season.  If more than 1 seed germinates I snip off the weakest seed(s) with a pair of nail scissors.  I also have other ' dibbers ' on a 4" and 6" spacing.
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Post by: supersprout on February 27, 2006, 16:52:02
Thank you for the instructions mike  :D, will deliver them pronto to my son's friend who runs a school woodworking class. My those little fingers will be busy. This gadget will be the envy of the allotments, better get a new lock for the shed. Oh, better get a shed first  :-[ ;D
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: scotch-mist on February 27, 2006, 22:19:52
;)  Great idea :D
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Post by: Mothy on March 01, 2006, 21:47:30
What a terrific dibber Mike.....I'm gonna have to make one!!  ;D
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: jonny211 on March 02, 2006, 11:57:31
Hmmm... I've got mine outside in a propagator as my greenhouse isn't up yet - I've got a few starting to germinate but nothing as good as yours MikeB. Maybe it's time for plan B - dump 'em off at the folks' and let them germinate in their conservatory.

Thanks for the pictures, I know what I'm aiming for now!

Jon
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Emagggie on March 04, 2006, 23:31:04
just about to take on an allotment , I see there are onion plants there already, must be from last year as it is somewhat overgrown. Should I dig them all out  or leave them and be ever hopefull ?
Any advice greatfully received.................. ???
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: supersprout on March 05, 2006, 12:49:13
hi emaggie and welcome to the forum :)
Do you need the space urgently for something else? If not, leave them in and ... See What Happens :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Emagggie on March 06, 2006, 23:25:51
Thanks for the welcome, Supersprout, and I shall do just that.
So glad I found this site----it's brilliant.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: growmore on March 07, 2006, 10:17:06
If Your short of room wait til late April early May and set a row of onion seeds fairly thickly ..Leave them to their own devices and you will get a lot of table size onions .. Some up to half a pound,, These were Ailsa craigs...cheers Jim.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Curryandchips on March 07, 2006, 10:22:26
Impressive Jim, I may try that method myself just to use up old seed ...
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: supersprout on March 07, 2006, 11:43:48
Thanks for the brilliant pics growmore, will give it a go this year and have marked it in my planting calendar. They look superb.
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Post by: northener on March 07, 2006, 16:41:20
Did'nt you bother thinning out Jim. Alisa craig thats the seeds i'm trying for the 1 st time.
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Emagggie on March 08, 2006, 21:09:31
Been and had a look and a squeeze !!!!! Too soggy to leave I fear, but will have a bash at the Ailsa Craigs. :)
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: growmore on March 15, 2006, 10:41:19
Hi Northener,  No I just set the seeds  about an inch or so apart and leave  them ...
Will be doing same this year with golden bear onions ..Cheers  Jim...
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: jennym on March 15, 2006, 11:20:07
Hope you're going to post pics of any big ones you get this year Jim (7 pounders maybe) ?
 ;D
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: fbgrifter on March 15, 2006, 11:25:15
growmore>> when did you sow those?
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: Alimo on March 15, 2006, 11:42:34
Growmore - they look fab.

Alison
Title: Re: onions again!!!!
Post by: growmore on March 16, 2006, 09:47:19
Hi FB I think it would be about the 2nd week in May certainly no earlier..The pic
was took around the 12th of Sept..
 Jenny,The elusive half a stone onion ???   with the British record at over 16 lbs You Wouldn't think 7lbs would be a lot to ask for would You??.. :) 
Have stripped this one and it is now growing in a pot for next years seeds We live in hope ...Cheers ..Jim
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