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Title: Women and films etc.
Post by: redimp on January 08, 2006, 17:49:15
About to offend everybody (who is female) but don't mean to really.  I am talking generally and not specifically and I am fully aware that nobody fully fits any stereotype.

Anyway, here goes.  Why is that women and some men develop fascinations for certain films etc and that these films are often very unworthy of such adulation.  D for instance must have watched Grease about 10-15 during her lifetime.  Now, correct me if I am wrong, but I would not say it was a filmographic masterpiece.  The cinematography is nothing to write home about.  The story is, to put it bluntly, a tired cliche and the music, well lets just say it's not to my taste)  I could understnd this fasciantion if the film had a multilayered multifaceted story line but it plainly doesn't.  Other examples that spring to mind are Rocky Horror Picture Show, Saturday Night Fever (this list will inevitably grow)

PS This is a serious request to understand a subject I currently have no empathy for and that when I try to discuss with D she just thinks I am having a go.
Title: Re: Women and films etc.
Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 18:08:20
Blimey, you do like to live dangerously!!  ;D Can't be much help, I don't think cos don't like them either! I loved the Bourne Supremacy, Hunt for Red October, but I also love Sci Fi, such as Underworld, and also Last of the Mohecains...but as to why the ones you mentioned are so popular, I have no idea. Though I'm still trying to fanthom out why some women take 20 mins in the loo.....sorry! Think you're best to nod and smile, cos if you're watching Arnie and War films, she's probably asking herself the same question.... :-\ ;)
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 18:18:18
Ady, I suspect she may be obsessively projecting her unrequited need for romance and other irrational forms of inter-human intercourse onto trashy Hollywood twaddle of the seventies. Hope this helps.  ;)

BTW, Saturday Night Fever was pretty good...
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Post by: amanda21 on January 08, 2006, 18:27:25
Ahhhh Grease!   8)   I too can watch this over and over and for me I think it just has to do with great memories of the time it was first released.  I remember going to see it at least 3 or 4 times and then trying to recreate the whole thing on a stage of orange boxes and scaffolding planks in the back garden with my friends - I was Sandy - of course ! 

Now what I don't understand is how my OH can watch Agatha Christie or such over and over again - I mean he knows who did it?    ::)

Mind you as a Steve McQueen fan I watch The Great Escape every Christmas....just in case this time he will make it over the wire! 

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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 18:45:11
pure and simple escapism Ady! ;)
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 18:51:52
MMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................................... ;D

I didn't necessarily mean escaping from you Ady, ::)  just from reality sometimes, you know like when you go down the lottie!!!!!!!!!!!!

Laid Back.....................yeh right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: amanda21 on January 08, 2006, 19:11:12
Have I totally confused you with my female logic.....or non-logic Redclanger or is it my OH's Agatha moments that have you  ??? across the page??  :)

I'll watch any film me - old B&W, war, westerns, chick flicks, action.  Not overly keen on horror but can manage a while from behind a cushion.  What I just can't stand is getting half way through and realising it's rubbish but not being able to bear not watching to the end.  Rubbish it may be but I have to see the end and all the while knowing I am wasting an hour or so of my life...... :-\
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Post by: moonbells on January 08, 2006, 19:18:03
Got to preview with my reply then decided not to say what I'd thought, and just say that in our house, it's the bloke who prefers to rewatch and rewatch and... half the time it's some dreadful thing with no acting class and no sane plot and...

well I guess it's horses for courses.

I used to watch certain things avidly but I made the transition back to real life and so can't get addicted to films etc any more. 

moonbells

Title: Re: Women and films etc.
Post by: amanda21 on January 08, 2006, 19:19:42
 I suppose someone must as they are always on the box!   ::)
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 19:28:48
Please exscuse me Ady.....Amanda, I have to know, why does your cat have a melon on its head?  ???
Title: Re: Women and films etc.
Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 19:29:28
...and not a WORM?  >:(
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 19:30:33
Whether female or male methinks most of us don't necessarily understand why folks feel the need to watch TV, if I do watch a film or TV programme I generally fall asleep coz I'm so bored.

 I do understand the need to escape and dream but  this is done either in the garden or plot or I do read alot................... and re-read.

Oi Lots ..............................are you on topic......................oh sorry forgot its the shed :-X

doc Dong..........................i love worms ;D
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 19:36:09
there you go then ................................ you've answered your own question Ady! :D
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 19:37:50
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i love worms


I love Celebrity Big Brother, ScunBag...
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 19:40:35
I love Pete Burns........................................................... ;D

Scunbag ?:'(
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 19:43:52
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Scunbag ?

Being mean - male prerogative

I'm amazed by Jodie Marshes prominent but mal-formed
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 19:44:12
nose
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 19:44:37
Might explain Debs being miffed, you dufus.... ::) ;)
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 19:47:38
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Scunbag ?

Being mean - male prerogative


maybe..............................., and there I was giving you such a dingnified and respectful name. ;) ;D

I adore Captain Jack :)
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 19:51:58
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I love Gwyneth Paltrow and Kiera Knightly

bleugh! Cate Blanchett EVERY time.  :)
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Post by: Svea on January 08, 2006, 19:56:48
i prefer films with proper plots, but as TM has said a couple of pages ago, it must have to do with either projecting romance/expectations, or simply reminiscing in the time of her youth when this film was first released and the music was very 'it'.

mind you, i happily admit to watching 'chick flicks' of a sunday afternoon, or when i am ill, as something light and digestible, inconsequential yet entertaining is just what is needed then :)
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 19:57:34
Not fond of Gwyneth meself, but I did like Sliding Doors....
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 19:57:56
Jensen Button - fast and slightly rough around the edges! ;)

Just to keep on topic Ady...................................................Pete Burns.........men in suspenders..............................Frankenfurter................................Rocky Horror ;D
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 19:59:55
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but I did like Sliding Doors....


 ::) ::)

No no no no!
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:01:39
Sigh...yes...I did.... fasinated with the whole concept of what may have been different if you hadn't dropped that coffee cup which led to being late which meant you did run that old lady over.....I need to PLANT SOMETHING!!!!
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Post by: agapanthus on January 08, 2006, 20:03:35
girl meets boys.....girls does'nt like boy...boy thinks girl is a drip.....girl quite likes boys....boy thinks girl is ok....girl loves boy...boy loves girl.......easy really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Women and films etc.
Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:05:15
Sliding Doors - dreary English whimsy starring overrated American actor with a flu-ey cold (honestly - just look at the closing scenes - she looks like death warmed up)
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:06:19
 ;D ;D ;D
Then there' the action fim script....Thwack, thwack, capoof......thunk.....The End.. ::)

Not her so much Max, as the consequence thingy, as in chaos theory...butterflies wings etc
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:09:45
Amen to that!  ;D
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 20:10:28

Big Brother  - what a great big pile of shite!

I just feel sad for these people :(
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:10:40
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what a great big pile of shite!


Oi filthy mouthed Yabbse God - and anyway that's why it's essential viewing  ::)
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:11:58
Itried to watch it once, spent 10 mins watching an empty stairwell... ???
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:12:57
Better for you than sliding doors then
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:16:04
SORRY MAX!! CAN'T HEAR YOU!! THERE'S A BLO*DY GREAT PICTURE IN THE WAY!! ::)
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:18:35
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Why would any sane, intelligent person want to watch shut inane crap?

Enough about sliding doors, ok?

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If the state of the nation is reflected by its telly viewing I fear we're doomed.


Seriously - that's why it's so compelling. Like the four horsemen of the apocalypse.


Clanger - I prefer women, personally.  :)
Title: Re: Women and films etc.
Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:19:41
I'm too lazy to deal with a wide thread!! Ady reduce! I have mouse coordination problems...
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:20:37
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SORRY MAX!! CAN'T HEAR YOU!! THERE'S A BLO*DY GREAT PICTURE IN THE WAY!!

No worries Lotster - the sound travels straight through them....
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:21:55
I just fell off the end of the page.... ::)
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 20:23:32
Ady ?

Bet you watch re-runs of Bend it Like Beckham ::)
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:29:30
Cary Grant, every time....sigh...
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Post by: Delilah on January 08, 2006, 20:31:48
No - watched it when it was first on and turned down a second viewing. ;D Why, who is in it?

dunno Ady ::)

I like a bit of Clint meself  ::)

only a bit Wards? ;D

Lots????????????????????????????????????/ :o
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:32:33
Archibald Leach.  :o
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:33:45
He's just...well...just ....sigh....... :)  and James Stewart too..... :-X
Yup! Archibald Leach.. ;D
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:35:19
Could never really see it with James Stewart. He had a face like a slapped arse...
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:36:36
It's in the eyes, not the slapped arse face!! Also like that chap who played the robot in Alien.... :-\
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:37:05
John Hurt??
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:39:16
Oooo no!! Not fond of him at all....erm Lance Henrickson.....that's the one.. ;D
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:42:35
Why would you do this Ady!! Why!!!  ::) ;)
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:44:02
Didn't realise Shaznay Lewis was in it. Now she is a fox. :)
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Post by: petemason on January 08, 2006, 20:46:43
Well I saw the subject of this thread and I thought it must be RC extolling the virtues of the many excellent actresses there have been over the years. He surely wouldn't attempt to cross swords with any of the females on here over their fave films.



RC, I can't believe we drink from the same water supply! The answer as to why women like Grease is the same as the question "Why do people climb Everest?"

Because it's there!
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 20:47:48
Who?
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:49:28
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The answer as to why women like Grease is the same as the question "Why do people climb Everest?"  Because it's there!

...and it's also a huge heap of crap...
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Post by: petemason on January 08, 2006, 20:51:42
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The answer as to why women like Grease is the same as the question "Why do people climb Everest?" Because it's there!

...and it's also a huge heap of crap...

Well yes of course it is. I once sat through Blue Velvet with my OH and at the end of it she said "Was that supposed to be a comedy?"
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 20:55:31
Stop being so obtuse Wardy - it's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...

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once sat through Blue Velvet with my OH and at the end of it she said "Was that supposed to be a comedy?"

LOL! Dennis Hopper - comedic genius...has she seen Eraserhead? she'll be in stitches...
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 21:00:55
David Niven...sorry I'm on a roll... ;D
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Post by: petemason on January 08, 2006, 21:04:22
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once sat through Blue Velvet with my OH and at the end of it she said "Was that supposed to be a comedy?"

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LOL! Dennis Hopper - comedic genius...has she seen Eraserhead? she'll be in stitches...

No, I've avoided that one as a shared experience. Truly one of the most depressing films I've ever seen however.
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 21:08:08
Most depressing? Sliding Doors, for sure...or Grease...
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 21:08:48
I did love that romantic one he did, where he die before his time, is sent back, falls in love, then they come to take him back to heaven...and....and...sniff......he has to prove his love and....WHAAAAHHH  :'(
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Post by: terrace max on January 08, 2006, 21:13:02
I'm crying too Lots - lol!
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 21:14:39
Here...have a hankie... :'(  Ooo I also fancied Shrek..... :-\ perhaps I should have kept that quiet.... :-X
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Post by: dibberxxx on January 08, 2006, 21:17:11
i agree with you lottie he is really a sweet big green fing  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 08, 2006, 21:20:31
And the Seagull out of Finding Nemo.. ???  I must have a voice thing too, bit worried now... :-\ ;)
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Post by: dibberxxx on January 08, 2006, 21:25:16
i allways fancied the the lobster out of the water babies  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: moonbells on January 08, 2006, 21:48:35
John Hurt??
He's from Lincoln  ;D and was narrating a play on Radio 4 today.

He was born in Chesterfield so we've got first dibs!

moonbells
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Post by: Yellow Petals on January 08, 2006, 21:54:08
Watching a film comes down to one thing and one thing only - personal taste.

I've got a movie pass which lets me go to the flix as many times as I like in a day, week, month, year for just £10.99  I usually go twice a week, sometimes more.  When my teacher friend is in school holidays, we do moviethons and watch upto 5 in one day - brilliant!  

I will watch most things but I can't stand Star Wars - I didn't particularly like them the first time around but this time they're even worse with the wooden top woefully miscast actors/actresses.  Thought the same about Gladiator, Russell Crowe is definitely nothing to write home about in the acting stakes.  I like long films, I like battle films; Roman, war time, samurai, LOTR (goosebump trilogy if ever there was one) I love comedies, musicals, weepies, drama.  It's all personal choice and mood related.  

Grease is superb, have seen it about 15-20 times - but remember it's been out almost 30yrs so that's not really a lot of viewings - less than one a year!  It's funny, the cast have great chemistry, the music is fun, catchy, innocent and easy to sing along with, the film itself is good old fashioned light hearted viewing.  When it came out, all the girls wanted to be Sandra Dee and all the boys wanted to be John Travolta or Kenicky and as the film - and it's fans - have gotten older, it sticks.
  
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Post by: Mrs Ava on January 08, 2006, 22:19:50
Hmmmmm, as a chick  ;D, I love Grease!  Oh yeah!!  However, you can't really pin me down to a favourite movie, or style of movies.....I like alsorts of different movies for different reasons, however, I do have a BIG problem when watching flicks, I know it is a movie, pretend, there is a film crew, make up lady, director, runners, etc, all standing there, all watching every move that takes place.  Don't know whether it was because when I worked for a living I started in the film division of the company so had lots of movie involvement.....  :-\  If I am going to watch a movie, and not nod off, I have to be enthralled from start to finish.....Dances with Wolves, Officer and a Gentleman - couple of typical chick movies, but then LOVE Event Horizon and Pitch Black.  Love Agatha Christie movies because I love them as books, so like the cinematography of them......Love Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink, but then figure I love all John Hughes films.... Aahh, Ferris Bueller.....  But, love some of the old war classics, Escape from Zobibor, Great Escape, Escape to Victory, and the greatest, Kelly's Hero's.  I shan't go on......bore you all rigid.......ooo love Pulp Fiction, but not reservoire Dogs, never understood the hype about that, didn't find it shocking or upsetting...... Love Saturday night fever and Paradise alley.....and then there is Disney.......can't think of one there I don't like!!!
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Post by: katynewbie on January 09, 2006, 02:05:16
 :-X

Dont let on......but I hate musicals!!! Yes, even Grease.....Slime is what I call it!! Love old stuff like Brief Encounter, Lawrence of Arabia and anything by David Lean.

What I cannot understand is watching a vid of a film over and over ie: Sixth Sense.....you know what the twist is..so whats the point????

Maybe its just me ::)
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Post by: amanda21 on January 09, 2006, 08:14:32
I have a confession and if you have recorded Message in a Bottle from last night don't read any further!









I watched Kevin Costner in Message in a Bottle last night C5.
I've seen it at least three times before.
I know he dies in the end.
I still cry.    :'(
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Post by: amanda21 on January 09, 2006, 08:17:13
Please exscuse me Ady.....Amanda, I have to know, why does your cat have a melon on its head?  ???

 :)  I have to admit it is not my cat.  Mine would never sit still long enough for me to put a melon on its head let alone take a photo!  I just though he looked so justly grumpy!   ;D
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Post by: undercarriage plan on January 09, 2006, 09:29:03
It's wonderful pic!!! Laugh every time I see it....and while we're confessing.....it's not really me reclining in an artful manner in mine...... :-X ;D
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Post by: dibberxxx on January 09, 2006, 09:58:09
almost looks a bit like Russwith his space helmet on , will have to send wardy some pics she will be so proud
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Post by: Svea on January 09, 2006, 10:45:35
it looks like a citrus fruit to me, but what do i know...;)

watched message in a bottle too - just the kind of thing i was talking about earlier ^^^
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Post by: dibberxxx on January 09, 2006, 10:50:46
he just looks so sweet in his space helmet wardy  :D :D russ could be mistaken for anything cute and cuddly
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Post by: MutantHobbit on January 09, 2006, 21:02:50
Here...have a hankie... :'(  Ooo I also fancied Shrek..... :-\ perhaps I should have kept that quiet.... :-X

Just caught up with the thread!;D Somebody at work informed me that if you get a green marker pen and coloured in the photograph that is my avatar, there's an uncanny resemblance to Shrek...   :-[

Still haven't worked out if it was a compliment or not!   :-\ ;D

Dave
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Post by: BAGGY on January 09, 2006, 21:49:32
almost looks a bit like Russwith his space helmet on

What did I miss ? Where's the photo?
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Post by: MutantHobbit on January 10, 2006, 01:30:32
Baggy, check out my Avatar on the left...

Although I like the usual war / crime/ action movies, I thought more thought provoking film like "Three Colours" Trilogy as well.  My favourite film is "Always", with Holly Hunter and Richard Dreyfuss.  Always was a soft sap! :-[

Dave
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