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General => Computers / Internet => Topic started by: return of the mac on January 03, 2006, 21:29:35
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Not just on the computer, (bike had a flat tyre >:( )
got 1 trojan that downloaded 20 more viruses and its taken about 5 different programs to kill them all-
Spybot
AVG
Ewido
Hijack this
Smitrem
Id like to know what other folks use, and if i can get a single program to do all this stuff- one that works!
Cheers,
John :o
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sophos. it updates about 4 times a day usually.
i also have it set upto to scan all programs coming onto the PC, so i dont get many/any viruses.
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AVG -- Virus software
Spybot --Malware
Webroot Spy sweeper --Malware
Ad-aware --Malware
CCleaner --Internet and cookie cleaner
CwShredder --Virus and malware
I have never trusted a simple program to get everything.
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There is no single program that'll do the job, unfortunately. You need something for viruses AND something for malware. If you're on XP, Microsoft's own spyware/malware remover has a good reputation and is free (at the moment).
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Hi, very interested as I have Avast anti virus, this morning it said I had a trojan, it only offered to 'sever connection' not delete anything. Is that right? If I delete the file it said will that be ok? Thankyou.
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It depends what the trojan does what actions you need to take. If it does offer to delete a file, run the antivirus check again once it's done so to make sure it's gone. Many trojans are just a small number of files well-hidden in your machine - it's what they do when active that's the problem. What's the name of the trojan?
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Hope I don't upset anyone, coming into this thread? :-\ The alert came up again last night, I searched for the file but can't find it. it just offered to sever connection again, it said
File name ************* [Yoda]
Malware name Win 32:Trojano-3295[Trj]
Malware type Trojan Horse
Darent put the file name as it becomes a link on here?
If I run a thorough scan with Avast will that find it, do you think?
Thanks, any help much appreciated :)
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It sounds as though this trojan is using your machine to either steal your address book or send out spam. Run you anti-virus; it needs to find and get rid of the trojan as soon as possible; it will tell you if it has found and eliminated a trojan. If it finds nothing, you'll need to try a different program.
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pansy run every bit of spy-ware, virus checker etc you have. update them first and one should be able to get it.
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In relation to the question posted by Pansy can I just add, that some Trojans and viris can embed themselves into your system restore folder and will remain there and be undetected by the usual scanners.
If this is the case you will need to download a free programme called Stinger and run that to find and destroy the pests, but it means closing down your system restore. I know that it can be a pain turning off your system restore as you lose your restore points but it is the only way
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forgot to mention i use "stinger" as well
Try starting in safe mode then run your scans. You may be surprised how many more items your programs may find.
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Run these two and see if anything pops up. They scan and remove.
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx
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Zone Alarm is very useful.
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Thanks everyone for all your help. We turned off system restore, updated and ran the programmes we had, with no luck. Then I found http://www.ewido.net/en/ and ran the online scan. It found the trojan, and 14 other bits of malware. Since we did this the alert hasn't come again so hopefully we've got it. Thanks again, you've all been a big help. :)
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Ewido is excellent. We have that. Plus another twenty or so ..... it's like getting into fort knox just to read my emails these days.
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I hadn't heard of it, but will use it regularly now, as well as the others we had. Will we ever have enough programmes to keep our pc safe I wonder?
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Hi all
Got me wondering, I just use Norton Systemworks 2002 and Norton Firewall. I only got one trojan when my wife clicked on a warning she should have ignored,but thats another story.
Is my current protection enough or should I be looking at the programmes mentioned above??????
Ivor
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I'm not too impressed with any of them. At the recommendation of a computer repair shop I've had to dump a computer as hopelessly contaminated after 4 times being in for repairs - - and I've had my hard drives wiped and clean-installed a total of four times in the last year... and that's including once with a brand new expensive computer running on Windows XP.
And from Day One I've had free and paid-for anti-virus and anti-Malware programmes and Firewalls supposedly guarding my system. They're hardly worth a cracker the lot of them. And yes - I've been scrupulously careful to keep these safe-guards running on the latest anti-virus updates.
I've been on ZoneAlarm-with anti-virus for nearly a year now - and I'll be dumping them as bloody useless so fast they'll see sparks at their end. Four times my hard drive has had to go through expensive re-formatting while ZoneAlarm was supposed to be keeping it safe.
I'll be switching to Norton. Everyone I know who pays for downloaded Norton protection software has had absolutely no problems with their computer.
I also think avast! is a piece of crap. It never reveals anything as being discovered by their scans.
Ad-aware and spybot are my all-time favourites... run their programmes and they always reveal something that needs to be deleted.
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Ad-aware and spybot are my all-time favourites... run their programmes and they always reveal something that needs to be deleted.
Hello Glowworm, Ad-aware and spybot are NOT antivirus programs. They provide anti-malware protection only. As does the highly recommended Spy Defense
If you are running Win XP, then using Nod32 will slow down yer PC.
Before you go down the Nod32 route (lashing out hard-earned cash), I suggest you have another try with either of the freebies AVG or Avast. Many folk swear by them, whereas folk I know swear at Norton.
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We used to have Norton, gave it up in the end, we now have Avast which we're very happy with, ours does occassionally find things during scans, or we get an alert somethings been found, and it deletes it no problem. This was the first time we couldn't get rid of it but never had a trojan before. We also have Adaware, Spybot, BT Yahoo Anti Spy, and also use clean up programmes like Windows Washer, CleanUp and Regcleaner. Its amazing how much they clear off sometimes, when you've been surfing for a while. I'll use Ewido again now, too. Complicated, we'll end up with pcs full of this stuff and no room for anything else!
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Have used Norton plus Adaware and Spybot for years with very few problems. However, all these things need to be set up properly - default settings aren't failsafe. For example, it's useful to check the efficacity of your settings with something like "Shieldsup":
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
(go to bottom of page and press "proceed")
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Thanks Compost - but I wouldn't use AVG again if you paid me hard cash and a week's holiday in Bermuda with Miss Porno 2005.
While AVG was installed onto my hard drive as an anti-virus protection I had to trot back and forth to the Repairs Shop on all of three occasions within a period of 6 months only... needing full clean-installs each time to eliminate the nasties.
Ditto avast! - what a fraud. I had avast! sitting in the hard drive of my brand new computer when within only another 6 months again I had to break into my piggy bank to finance yet another clean install...
And ZoneAlarm-with-Antivirus for which I have paid a hefty fee for their services is the biggest bandit of them all. While under the professional services of this organisation I have had to trot down to the repairs shop on 4 separate occasions in just the one 12-month period... with also having to toss into the trash bin one complete computer as beyond any further hope in the repairs shop.
And yes, Compost - my mistake... ad-aware and spybot are not anti-virus software. I meant avast! and my fraudulent ZoneAlarm-with-anti-virus software trash... which has burnt a hole in my pocket with both paying for a year's subscription with them and the bugs they didn't detect which then cost me 4 trips to the repairs shop.
My neighbour, meanwhile, who has exactly the same model of computer and operating system as me - has sat on his ample duff for over a year now with not even the smallest problem to upset his day. And all he uses is Norton.
He's sat there on his front porch for over a year now shaking his head in utter bewilderment at me as yet again he sees me heading for the repairs shop with my contaminated hard drive...
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Thanks Rosa - you're a veritable Florence Nightingale with your flitting about to bring solace and balm to newbie PC invalids such as I.
(http://www.rivelazioni.com/immagini_animate/emoticons/36_3_8.gif)
;D
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I thought I was just confusing matters further - glad I'm not! ;D
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Add to the confusion... ? But not at all Señorita Rosa! If you looked inside my brain you'd see that where it doesn't look like a dozen eggs have exploded as in a microwave oven it looks like a bad pile-up of about 50-vehicles slammed into one another in icy skid conditions out on the highway... (http://67.18.37.17/1481/4/emo/giggle1.gif)
And thanks for that Shieldup site - brilliant!
Thanks Rosa...
(http://bestsmileys.com/love1/6.gif)
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Incidentally, Rosa - I've been asking around about how to upload a screenshot.
The instructions I've been given by an online PC Help advisor simply doesn't gel.
Thus: Tap the 'Print Screen' key - start - run - (type in 'mspaint') - edit - paste - file - save - (type in 'JPEG' for file type) - OK - and then scroll down the page and click the 'upload' button.
Trouble is I don't have an 'upload' button anywhere on the page.
Question: If there was an 'upload' button - where does it upload to?
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@Glowworm, I understand. Good luck with your chosen path - and I hope it's not back to the repairers..!! :o
(next time you have PC trouble, try this site. I find then most helpful and seem to be able to sort out things without taking drastic measures such as repair and reformat.
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/index.php? ) ;)
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Love the graphic, Glowworm ;D
The "upload" thing is misleading. Once you've got as far as saving the file, treat it as you would any other image that you want to upload. The process varies from site to site; some will have an "upload" button at the bottom of the box in which you type your text message, and that's what's being referred to in the instructions. Afraid I can't help you about how to do it here because I've never done it, but if you start a new thread I'm sure others can help you. :)
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Thanks Compost. Your moral support is much valued. I'll pay your recommended site a visit - but I have to say that the PC forum sites I've tried in the past to get help from have been an utter waste of time, hope, and energy.
You submit your question... (something that might be in dire need of a quick answer) - and what happens... ? You wait days for an answer... and most of your time is spent searching for your own question amongst 391 pages of 50 questions each page with very poor indexing.... a needle in a haystack.
I have found http://www.protonic.com to be a sincere bunch of helpers who are willing to give you their full-on attention with your PC problems. Unfortunately good intentions does not solve my problems, and sad to say the protonic crowd have not as yet solved any of my problems (somewhat to my surprise I have to say).
One of my current problems is this strange bar across the top of my page, which has half a green plugin jigsaw piece sitting in the middle.
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I've taken note of your advice Rosamunda... (you're not Ronald Biggs' Brazilian ex are you... ? (http://www.xtrememass.com/forum//images/smilies/biggrin.gif))
Glad you like the graphic. Perhaps I should warn you I'm a hopeless cybo-flirtaholic who keeps a large cyber-harem of women pining for my amorous attentions... (http://www.xtrememass.com/forum//images/smilies/1214/cooleek3.gif)
Meanwhile... Oh Rosa I love you soooooooo... and every beat of my heart is a testament of my love for yoooooooooouuuu.... !! (http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/super/107.gif) (http://filesoup.co.uk/forum/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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Thanks Compost. Your moral support is much valued.
You're welcome 8)
I'll pay your recommended site a visit - but I have to say that the PC forum sites I've tried in the past to get help from have been an utter waste of time, hope, and energy.
not this lot, I've had real answers back in 10 minutes..!!
I have found http://www.protonic.com to be a sincere bunch of helpers
Thanks I'll take a look
One of my current problems is this strange bar across the top of my page,
well try VirtualDr. I bet they sort you out (someone needs to..!! j/k ;) )
Regards,
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Hey, ive been gone a while cos now my isp server is down- so im using a backup dial up connection, glowworm it sounds like your pc repair shop is taking you for a ride if you ask me- ive found avg and norton useless, i must face the hard truth taht i need a rafter of different programs to beat the malware and viruses, and although symantec.com is good for identifying viruses from suspicious filnames their software is worth sfa. Happy surfing, i hate my computer and my isp and all the geeks who make viruses and the companies that invest in spyware , and lets not forget all the glass on our roads that shreds my bike tyres.
::)
Ive had a bad fortnight of technology- off to find my abacus
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I checked out that Virtual Dr site, compost - it looks good. However, I couldn't for the life of me find a 'Your Posts' tracking facility there. I have given up with other online PC help sites because I kept getting hopelessly lost trying to find where my posts were in amongst everyone else's.
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When you are in the Thread you want to follow, go to the thread toolbar>dropdown Thread Tools>Subscribe to this Thread.
Sorted ;)
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Thanks Compost - but I have no idea what you're talking about.
"Thread toolbar" - yes. "dropdown" --- what 'dropdown'? "Thread tools" -- I haven't seen that written anywhere. "Subscribe to this thread"... how does clicking anything on the Thread toolbar lead you to this... ?
Which brings me to a certain point as a newbie -- I give 9/10 for the sheer technical brilliance of computer science and all that makes the Internet possible --- but as yet I'm not able to give anything higher than a very generous and charitable 4 out of 10 for the sheer illiteracy of most people involved with PCs.
;D
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Thanks Compost - but I have no idea what you're talking about.
..but as yet I'm not able to give anything higher than a very generous and charitable 4 out of 10 for the sheer illiteracy of most people involved with PCs.
;D
why thank you :|
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This is the second time today that I have had a longish post wiped out here before being able to post them because when I went to my bookmarks or Google to look up something I found no way back to my posts.... and found myself only able to backtrack to an empty Post Entry Box.
I belong to a half dozen forums and this is the only one which suffers from this major handicap. In future each time I visit this particular forum I'm going to have to stick up a bloody great notice to myself to NOT leave the post page to go do any research etc. as this action will erase whatever I have already written. Quite bizarre - and very limiting I might add.
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Sorry Compost - but the system here blew away a full half-hour response from me because the bloody thing can't handle posters doing a bit of research at other sites whilst writing their posts -- how totally pathetic. This is unique to my experience with forums - absolutely infuriating.
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Might it be because of the current probs. today or have you always found this here, I wonder? Dunno.
Anyway, so nice to see peeps here who might be able to help me - thing is, it's going to take a while for me to find the words to describe what I now can't do since my puter bloke 'fixed' things for me a while back..I'll come back in a coupla days, if I may, to pick your brains...
Thanks,
Lishka
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... might be able to help me - thing is, it's going to take a while for me to find the words to describe what I now can't do since my puter bloke 'fixed' things for me a while back..I'll come back in a coupla days, if I may, to pick your brains...
Thanks,
Lishka
we'll be here Lishka... :)
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Anyone wanting to find their posts at VirtualDr need only... login - click 'Search' - type in your Username - click 'GO'....... and voila! ... the whole page will be filled with your entries and questions.
Compost... "When you are in the Thread you want to follow, go to the thread toolbar>dropdown Thread Tools>Subscribe to this Thread".
Thanks for trying to be helpful, but it's not necessary to remember what thread you posted at.
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When you are in the Thread you want to follow, go to the thread toolbar>dropdown Thread Tools>Subscribe to this Thread.
Sorted ;)
I'm sorry for having been a Grumpy Old Bastard, dotCompost... and by way of apology here is the very best, gold-plated method for finding your posts at VirtualDr.
login..... click Search... click Advanced Search... in Search by username type in your username.... scroll down and click Search now.
And up will pop a list of all your posts and threads.
;D
Best Regards,
Herbert