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Title: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 17, 2005, 02:28:09
Ok no pun intended honest.

I need a little help with a Hoe problem. It is going to be one of my christmas presents. I an stuck between the two. I have done endless hours of research on the internet for a push pull type hoe and have come up with the stirrup hoe.

This one is a fixed stirrup hoe and is about £11 inc post and packing.
http://www.stirruphoes.co.uk/

This one is not fixed. It is a ossilating stirrup hoe and is arond £22 poundish.
http://www.blackberrylane.co.uk/toolshop2.html

As you can see they are just the heads. I am not interested in the wolf type because you have to buy THERE handles and they aint cheap. These take the commanal garden type wooden hoe handel which is what I was after.

Any advice or thoughts would be welcome especially if you have used this type of hoe. If you know of any other makes or outlets where I could buy this type of hoe then the information would be recieved most greatfully.

Thank You in advance.
The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 17, 2005, 08:56:18
I have not used either type so cannot offer experience from use. However, as an engineer, I would say that the fixed stirrup is likely to be more reliable, as there are no moving parts ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 17, 2005, 09:26:52
Hmm and ceaper but the ossilating one states that it is more perpandicular to the soil surface. hmmm

I see ya point I am almost sold on the fixed one then I can buy a cheap thin head dutch for me onions

Hmmmm

Quondry Continues

The_Snail

PS. Dont Panic!!! I will keep you all uptodate eiter on this thread or another.
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: joji on December 17, 2005, 12:58:26
Get the fixed one SS. They last for years. I still have one that was my grandads and it is over 75 years old. They do last. :)
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: vee on December 17, 2005, 22:51:44
I saw someone using one of these on a TV programme a while ago and it looked as if it worked really well. (I don't know whether it was fixed or not) As I have never seen one in a shop the links are very useful - thanks. Let us know how you get on with whichever you buy as I'd be interested in getting one.
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 18, 2005, 08:41:16
Snail  get one off the internet.  I've just been shopping on the internet for my husband who has been round every garden centre and builder's merchant for something was still empty handed.  Been on internet for 2 minutes and stuff is being delivered tomorrow.  Saves pounding the pavement. 

I use Kelkoo (garden section) and then type in key word "hoe" and it should bring up all the hoes and the prices

Good hunting  :)   BTW  some of the tool companies have garden tools and they're usually cheaper but might not necessarily come up on Kelkoo
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 18, 2005, 10:34:42
Thanks wardy I will try kelkoo. I tried pricerunner.co.uk and did not really find a heck of alot. I will try kelkoo though.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 18, 2005, 10:59:03
I am a dopey so and so Snail!  I should listen to my own advice.  Just ordered meself a wheelbarrow for Christmas today using Kelkoo but didn't read the whole of the page and found a cheaper version of the same barrow I'd just bought.  It was just up a bit from the one I'd chosen.  What a berk.  Oh well I wasn't paying  :)
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 18, 2005, 12:39:39
Never used internet shopping, I would be too nervous about getting ripped off ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on December 18, 2005, 13:46:24
I use it a lot, it's just a question of common sense, the same as shopping any other way.
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 18, 2005, 15:01:51
DTF  It's so easy Derek.  Your Christmas shopping sorted without even leaving your chair.  No crowds, no screamin kids, no pushing, shoving, getting bad tempered  :)  I ordered a jumper for my son this morning from Next and it's being delivered tomorrow.  What could be easier?  I've bought all my CD's and DVD's online, my sister's new dress, niece new skirt, myself a wheelbarrow for Christmas.  My Christmas food etc  is being delivered on a huge container lorry by Tesco (slight exaggeration mebbe) to save me queuing up. I've done this since Tesco online was invented and can thoroughly recommend it.  I make one of the sprogs stay in to receive grub and put it all away while me and my old man go down the pub  :)
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 18, 2005, 15:53:34
It probably is easy for normal people Wardy, but I still have to keep the instruction manual with my mobile phone ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 18, 2005, 17:11:51
I must confess I am new to online shopping this year as I buy all my DVDs online. It is really simple and safe, especially is you use some of the more well known stores like comet, dixons, tesco and sainsburys and many more....   :)

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Salpott on December 18, 2005, 20:06:18
Internet shopping - it's the way to go. I love it. Done all my chrimbo shopping online. Buy all electrical goods over the web.  Only problem is you need to be in to await delivery....Good excuse for time off work though  ;) ;D 
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 18, 2005, 20:50:16
Well I have been amazed by the experiences I have had this past year, so you never know, I might do it yet ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 18, 2005, 21:06:35
I just fill in the delivery instructions box "leave in outside loo round back"  :)
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 18, 2005, 21:17:28
Hmm that might confuse them because we dont have an outside loo ...

Derekthefox ;D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 19, 2005, 06:51:01
Yup I recommend to. I am an online shopping junky now. When I got the money that is lol  :D ;D :D

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 19, 2005, 06:53:02
PS Staying on topic it looks like so far I am interested in the Fixed Head Stirrup HOE! But I aint going to order it yet so things might change. Watch this space. (Or Thread  ;D)

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 19, 2005, 09:12:13
I wonder whether any of these garden 'makeover' programmes have any ideas on creating a mock outside loo - perhaps part of a bog garden (groan). Not that I watch telly anyway so that wouldnt help.

Snail, reasons for your choice ... ?

I am interested in these hoes too, although that does mean I will have to shop online  :o

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: derbex on December 19, 2005, 09:28:10
I was reading an old KG hoe test this morning, people there seemed to prefer the Swoe followed by the Wolf and the old fashioned (B&Q) dutch hoe. The oscillating hoe came a bit further down as a love it or loathe it.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 19, 2005, 18:00:07
Reasons for choice Derek is basically the price. £11 is not £22 and it wont really break my back to buy it. If It is a little impractable then I will save up and buy the more expensive one. And no you do not need to buy it online as you can send them a cheque. They have a postal address on there website. So its snail_mail  ;D

Derbex the wolf hoe loks great but is the fact that you have to buy there dedicated handles I am against. It is against all principle. You are tied down to them. There handles aint cheap either. Give my a wooden hoe handle anyday.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 20, 2005, 03:32:19
I am not very happy. The first link that I posted for the fixed stirrup hoe is now dead. The website has gone! Great! About my luck that is. I was going to contact them but I cannot get there contact info now  >:( Not very happy.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 20, 2005, 09:04:45
I am confused Snail, the link shows fine on my machine, and it includes all mailing details as well ...

http://www.stirruphoes.co.uk/

stirruphoes.co.uk
Unit 4, Emsworth House Close
Emsworth  PO10 7JR
Hants.

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 20, 2005, 13:10:21
That might be because you have the page cached on your computer in the tempery internet files. I clear mine every day after being on the internet. Thanks for the details  :)

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 20, 2005, 13:11:58
I will see If I can get a telephone number and contact them to see if they are still in buissnes. I will let you know what happens.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 20, 2005, 13:36:55
Hmm cannot find any telephone for them. Do they have a email contact?

The_snail

PS. I think they have stopped tradeing and hence there site might be down. Or it a problem with there website or my browser. I dont think it is my browser as I have tried with Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I have telephoned the people who supply the ossliating stirrup hoe's today and they seemed to be very polite and helpful on the telephone. The only thing is they have stopped taking orders until Febuary. Which is ok with me as I wil not be using it until after april I suppose.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 20, 2005, 15:05:59
I am uncertain of your problems Snail, I have deleted all my temporary files and the link still works ... but there is no phone number listed.

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 20, 2005, 15:53:21
Strange  ???
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: redimp on December 20, 2005, 16:36:24
Link doesn't work with me either - using Mozilla.  Will try with IE as that sometimes works when Mozilla doesn't
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: derbex on December 20, 2005, 16:43:26
stirruphoe@tiscali.co.uk

Works for me in Mozilla -and that's not cached.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 20, 2005, 17:05:34
Thanks Derbex :) I will email them and ask them for some info. I will post the reply on this thread.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 20, 2005, 20:16:29
Just to let you know I can access the website again http://www.stirruphoes.co.uk

I have not got a clue what was going on there  ??? :-\

O well.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 20, 2005, 20:18:20
Well, well, well. Ah well, alls well that ends well.

Derekthefox ;D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 21, 2005, 14:34:17
I have gone and ordered one!  :o

So watch this space.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 22, 2005, 00:29:41
I have had a reply to my email. Just to state that they do retail online or you can send them a mail order using this address -:

Stirruphoes .co.uk
Unit 4 Emsworth House Close
Emsworth PO10  7JR
Hants

Price £10.75 which includes VAT+Delivery.
You must supply you own address for delivery.
They despatch the orders after 2 days of recipt but allow 10 days for it to arrive as they use royal mail.

I will take a pic of it when it arrives as it was dispatched on the 22 of december I dont think it will be here until after christmas.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 22, 2005, 09:25:53
I ordered wheelbarrow (my Christmas present) online in the evening as my husband had trailed round the garden centres all day and came back empty handed.  It arrived the following morning!   :)    When I ordered my Chillington type hoe (from a tool company) I got that the day after too
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 22, 2005, 09:32:42
Excellent Snail and Wardy, this service is reassuring to know ... I may be converted yet ... !

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 22, 2005, 09:38:20
Derek I've not been able to get a certain DVD for my sister after trailing round every flippin shop in town last Saturday.  Got it from Tesco online yesterday having ordered it the day before.

My Tesco online grocery order was delivered last night.  A bit early this year but they aren't delivering 23rd and 24th (who can blame them) I don't even have to carry it from the door as they bring it right into the kitchen  ;D  No queueing necessary and their database had saved my order from last year so it was a doddle  ;D  Feel aggrieved though as I had to buy carrots.  Must grow many more next year  :) 
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: reedos on December 22, 2005, 09:51:45
DTF,

Internet shopping it's a doddle honest. I never set foot in a shop anymore ;D ;D, a man in a van brings everything from presents to food to seeds and plants to my door it's great. I've never had any problems whatsoever.
I do remember my first time though, worrying about whether it was going to turn up, if I was going to be charged £800-00 for a widget and if my credit card would be buying meals for 20 in a bar in Hong Kong, but as I say everything fine so far :D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 22, 2005, 10:07:30
I get everything for our in bloom group off the internet whch saves shopping for sheds, barrows etc. The shed actually came locally but they trade on the web  :) and because we were local they put it up as well  :)

I'm just trying to think what the strangest thing is that I've ordered online. Sausage probe probably  ;D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: growmore on December 22, 2005, 10:12:32
sausages! Wardy :o ..Where they special un's as in venison or summat? Jim
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 22, 2005, 10:17:27
I don't think online shopping would help getting my wife's presents though, we tend to get oddments to fill a pillowcase, it involves trawling round to see ideas. After 27 years, it is getting harder, not easier !!!

Derekthefox :D

Wardy, I hesistate to ask what a sausage probe looks like !!!
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 22, 2005, 10:19:04
Oh I forgot!  The strangest delivery I got was a box of kippers, plus a tree arrived in same post from Lottie (a contorted willow) well it was once it had been through the postal system  ;D

Sausage PROBE Growmore.  It's to test the temperature of me sossies.  Tis a requirement of them pen pushers at the Town Hall   :-X

You can get sossies online Growmore from the Sausage Appreciation Society shop  ;D   I get kippers online from the smokehouses in Heidi's neck of the woods.  Cheaper than going to fetch em  ;D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on December 22, 2005, 13:02:24
Will you actually be probing your sausages or will it just be decorating the kitchen wall to impress passing health inspectors?
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 22, 2005, 13:40:37
I won't be probing sausages which are for my consumption but I DO probe my guests' sausages  :o.  Daft innit.  Oh well don't want to poison anyone over the festive period. 

My probe is not hung up I have to keep it clean so it gets tucked away in it's little box when not in use.  As per hygiene regulations don't you know  ;D

Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: redimp on December 22, 2005, 14:06:10
There must be some lines here for me to use in the panto.
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: growmore on December 22, 2005, 15:18:07
I read the PROBE as prob ..I must read more thoroughly ..O heck...  :-[ Jim
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 23, 2005, 05:04:14
Well it started off as Garden Hoe's now it has turned into sausage probing LOL  ;D O well. There in nothing like digression   :D

The_Snail

Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: wardy on December 23, 2005, 08:34:33
One thing just lead to another snail  ;D
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 23, 2005, 08:56:54
Well I suppose you will need to banter about something while waiting for this hoe to arrive ...

Derekthefox
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 23, 2005, 09:46:10
Its Here!!! Arrived at 8:30 am this morning.

Here are the pictures as promissed  :)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/the_sexy_snail/hoeverticle.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/the_sexy_snail/hoewidth.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/the_sexy_snail/hoehorizontal.jpg)

For £10.75 I think that is a good purchase. All P+P is included in the price. I am very happy with the service and goods. It will have alot of use this will.

Ordered on the 20th December and arrived on the 23rd of December at 8:30am.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 23, 2005, 09:49:45
Aha that looks excellent! Methinks when I return from my break, I may have a go at making one ...

Derekthefox
Title: Re: Hoe, Hoe, Hoe Merry.... (Need a little help)
Post by: the_snail on December 23, 2005, 09:52:53
They seem quite simple to make. The only thing that would stop me from making on is the welding the handle holder to the main hoe. I cannot weld yet.

The_Snail
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