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General => The Shed => Topic started by: lorna on December 05, 2005, 15:21:00
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Had a dental appointment this morning!! I am ashamed to say I haven't been for nearly four years. Partly because my dentist withdrew from NHS and biggest part because I am a coward..Anyhow went with grandson and Lorna jnr to their appointment and booked myself in. Charming dentist (South African) put me at ease and the outcome is I have only got to have three fillings, and they are ones that have been done before.. Quite pleased that at 71 I only have two teeth missing and not much work to be done. YIPEE ;D
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Well done Lorna. Clean bill of dental health for me at the dentist this morning...felt like a bit of a waste of time.
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OOooo don't gives, me shivers and goosebumps just thinkng bout it I make sure all kids go, but haven't been in a long, long time and nothing will drag me back there, bar a toothache of course.... ::) ;)
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I hate the dentist too, am totally terrified. Used to be OK till I had my wisdom teeth out and the B******D broke my jaw in two places (one of the roots had grown round it and he missed it on the x-ray - just put his foot on my chest and pulled! had a foot shaped bruise and needed 16 stitches)
Went last week for the first time in about 3 years and have to have 2 fillings and two other teeth look dodge, he did loads of x-rays so get the results of them too. Am meant to be going back tomorrow, but think I will cancel as I have a stinking cold and sore throat (my excuse anyway) ;)
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I am lucky in not having many horror stories from dentists, although I have endured excruciating pain through thoughtlessness in hospital. I count my blessings ...
Derekthefox :D
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Glad you didn't need to much work Lorna. The dentist has never bothered me, and have gone regularly since I was a nipper, and now me and the kids go together like a ickle family outing! ;D Funny, I am terrified of needles, but so long as I keep my eyes firmly closed when he goes in to numb me, I really don't mind. Love my South African dentist. Now, my big butch darling Ava is terrified! hehehehe.
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Hi -Been to NHS Dentist today,they provided a plate with 2 teeth on it,did 2 extractions so it would fit the gap and cleaned all teeth. ( Over a number of Appointments )Cost was £340, original Private dentist, would have been £660 for 2 caps. Pretty disgusting when you are Retired and have paid in to NHS for 44yrs,when at work.Didn`t mind hefty Dentist bills whilst at work, full time. Asked dentist what would be the answer, if I didn`t get on with the Plate,she said, I would then need an Implant, cost £1200.Surely when you Retire, you should not have to Pay, these big Bills ? ?
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EJ. Funny Charlie was really terrified of injections and yet he didn't mind the dentist injections. I don't mind any sort of injections and I know it is silly to be nervous of dentist. The only injections that I have ever felt badly about are the ones they gave me in my big toes to enable them to remove my ingrowing toenails. Boy were they painful, they explained it was because there is very little flesh on toes. My chiropodist told me that when they are training they have to have the injection as part of their training. No wonder she said GOOD LUCK when I went to the Hospital :o On top of that I got fenel burning from the chemicals (I think that is what they called it) and it took months for them to completely heal.
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Well done Lorna, it does take a bit of courage to go to the dentist again after such a long time. I was in the same position a couple of years ago, and I was petrified when I was forced to go because I had an abscess on my gum.
I had had a bit of a butcher previous to that so avoided going. However, luckily I hit on a really good dentist and she was great, very reassuring and dealt with the problem brilliantly. Have been going regularly ever since, and have joined Denplan. There are now no NHS Dentists in Whitley Bay, which is a scandal. busy_lizzie
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Daisymay.No wonder you have a fear of dentists.
pntalbot. I don't really understand the charges. They said today that because I am on Pension Credit there would be nothing to pay. When Charlie was alive I know he paid, I suppose that was because we were not on benefits other than his mobility allowance..I quite agree how do they expect pensioners to pay such large sums. What happened to "We will look after you from the cradle to the grave" ??
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What happened to "We will look after you from the cradle to the grave" ??
Margaret Thatcher/ Tony Blair :(
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I'm told the the inside of my mouth looks like a 'silver mine.'
Vony.
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i had dentist phobia for many years since they weren't giving the anaesthetic time to take effect and I could feel everything they did. I finally found one who understood the problem and it's not so bad now.
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Lorna Well Done....but Oolie... yes Stanley... Thats another
fine mess you,ve gotten us into ;)
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WELL DONE LORNA! I too am petrified of the dentist, and go all hot and clammy and dizzy when I have to visit!
When I was about 13 a useless dentist managed to drill my lip.........funny wen't right off them after that!
Now have about 6 crowns that require doing, can't afford it so haven't been, kids go regularly though, and the best thing is now they are older I don't feel I have to go in with them! ;D
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Lorna from pntalbot --re Dental charges.
The high charges are because although I am retired , I don`t qualify for Pension Credit.
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The last time I went to the dentist, it cost me over £350. That was on the NHS and went towards 2 fillings and one cap.
They have sent me a reminder that my bi yearly appointment is now overdue - Will have to go or loose my place as an NHS patient...... :P ::) ;)
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My dentist horror story - which is linked in with allotments and why I got one - amazingly I now don't worry so much about dentists...
I avoided dentists for several years after the one who I'd gone to since I was 7 had a heart attack and I had to re-register elsewhere. I only went even then cos I'd snapped off a bit of wisdom tooth. Eventually a tooth I'd been told at age 13 was cracked finally started to disintegrate, and I went to the same dentist as my hubby. Sadly not NHS, as there weren't any vacancies at the time.
Unfortunately the guy decided refilling wasn't good enough, prescribed an inlay (£275) and bodged it so badly I ended up with a root canal filling (without the anaesthetic having managed to reach the then-abscess so was the worst pain I've ever had) and toothache for a good 6 months straight. Somewhere along the line he left the practice (hooray) and I got a lady who trained at the same place as my old dentist. Poor thing had to pick up the pieces, not to mention deal with my drill phobia.
Meanwhile toothache gave me constant headaches, I couldn't think or sleep properly, and ended up having a bit of a breakdown*. Eventually she decided that capping it was the only hope - the pain was the crack irritating my gum and capping would hold it together. Had temporary for 3 months and the pain finally stopped and then a proper one was made the exact same shape as my original tooth, and it's been fine since. And I go and see them every 6 months and they're really nice! Luckily all the treatment after the initial inlay was under Denplan. The lab made a very good job and this was a visible tooth.
However if I ever see the bloke again I'll quite probably have to squash the urge to thump him.
Moral: find a good dentist you like before you get a problem and then there's a chance they can detect and sort it before it gets seriously expensive or painful!
*This was when I got my lottie, to try and take my mind off the pain and give myself something nice. It worked. No regrets there!
moonbells
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Not a pleasant experience at all moonbells, you have my sympathies ... at least you discovered the joys of an allotment through an obscure route ...
Derekthefox :D
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Not a pleasant experience at all moonbells, you have my sympathies ... at least you discovered the joys of an allotment through an obscure route ...
Derekthefox :D
It was one of those things I'd always meant to do, and never had got round to, and being in the open air has always helped my headaches (I get migraines) so when I was reminded at work about allotments I picked up the phone there and then and rang the council - three days later I was in!
Now it'd take a lot to shift me out...
moonbells
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Well, that horrible time is here again and I'm scared witless - as I always am with a visit to the dentist.
Tomorrow I have an appointment straight from work for a checkup which I know will lead to some major treatment. I've been in terrible pain for about ten days now but my dentist didn't open again until today (not that I care, the longer I can put it off, the better!) I've been surviving on very strong painkillers and alcohol since before Christmas!!
I don't know why I am so terrified but I am. I've actually had to have treatment halted on occasion because I shake and cry so much (even had to have my husband called in once!)
Last Christmas I knew I had to have a tooth pulled so I registered with a new dentist who uses sedation. Fabulous! He told me that I wouldn't be going to sleep, I'd be sedated, that we would hold a perfectly normal conversation throughout but I would feel nothing and afterwards would remember nothing. All perfectly true. I remember sitting in the chair - crying - again - whilst they set up sedation drip/jab and that's it - don't remember another thing until I got into car for hubby to drive me home. Amazing. So why do I still feel so flipping scared????
(and it's only a check-up!) I'm going to push to get my treatment done ASAP so I dont have to spend days crying and throwing up with anxiety!
Ok, rant over, just needed to get that off my chest.
And ..... with all due respect .... please don't reply with, "don't worry Sam, you'll be ok" because for idiots like me with a dental phobia, it means nothing!! :)
I might just get some false teeth instead.
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Okay, not going to reassure you at all Sam, but wish you happy thoughts whilst you are there, hope the sun shines all day for you, and you have a lovely evening when you get home!
We have our family appoitment on Valentines days...awww...how romantic!
Ava is rather nervous of the dentist. I think most people are....I think I am the exception......I quite like the dentist... :-\
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Well not going to relive my dental tales (nightmares) I want to sleep tonight
suffice to say.....I take prescribed meds before I go...and still bloody
petrified......am soooooooooooo not gonna sleep tonight !!!!!
::) ::) JAGS ::) ::)
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oooooeerrrr....have just been reading the various experiences and re-actions of trips to and treatment at the dentist....
I too am very nervous and dread going altho I go regularly...went a few weeks before Christmas and had a crown fitted, after first wearing a temporary one for a fortnight while new one was made....had hoped this would be fine but no....ever since, have had some discomfort & occasional 'sharp jab' of pain....
decided as it was Christmas to leave things alone, all the time hoping it would get better and surely I was imagining it!!.....but on no....last couple of days, really have horrible ache, hurts to eat on it & just 'bite' my teeth together and I can feel swelling & inflammation all around 'site' of the tooth.....
as much as I dread it....will have to 'phone them soon as I feel sure I'm developing an abscess!! :(
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Well guys . I won't tell you my stories of what happened to me at the dentist. But I still have all my teeth but since I had such a very bad incident at one dentists. I have never been to one for 14 years. :o
And no amount of money or any other means will get me to walk in one either :'( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have scared me for life.
Joji
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Thinking of you YP, cos I'm with Joji on this one, would rather eat worms......
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An understanding dentist is what people need. Son John is the same as you YP but fortunately his dentist understands and gives him "happy pills" or at least he did last time he went.
I think almost everyone has a nervous reaction to dentists, I know I have and my appointment to have three fillings is on 10th (OMG)
By the time you read this your visit will hopefully be over., but thouights will be with you today.
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I sympathise Sam having been in that position too. It took a really good dentist to restore my confidence. Once I had one I realised that there was nothing to fear and going regularly now does away with having to have anything major done too.
My son has been the same as you and no amount of sympathy or support helped him, but his dentist sedates him now which has taken a lot of the phobia away. He was the best I have ever seen him a few weeks ago, when we had to accompany him to the dentist, and sailed through it. Will be thinking of you but I am betting it is not half as bad as you think it is going to be, and afterwards you will wonder why you worried. :) busy_lizzie
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I used to have a total phobia of dentists because the anaesthetic didn't work properly and I always felt everything they did. Eventually I found one who knew what I was going on about; he just gives me a jab, I sit in the waiting room for ten minutes while it takes effect, and I don't feel a thing.
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Had my appointment. Wasn't very impressed to be honest. My once laughing, friendly dentist was very rude to me today and I got quite cross with him!
He looked in my mouth for about ten seconds and said, "hmm, root canal or extraction" and when I got up off of the floor, I said "well, extraction wins hands down!" He grilled me on why and I told him my reasons .... anyway.... things were said ... more things were said about treatments, appt times, fees blah blah... and I suddenly thought, hang on a mo, he hasn't even told me what the problem is yet! So I asked him and guess what? He said....you have an infection! So I said, "well surely in that case you can give me some antibiotics for it then????" I looked like this -------> :o More discussion but I won. A weeks worth of tabs and I'm back there next week for a "review"
Impressed I am not..... relieved I most definitely am! ;D
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Phew!! OK, glad you're ok, far braver than me, Sam.....
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YP. Oh dear!! Maybe he had a row with his wife/girlfriend/boyfriend before he came to work.. That is why I think it essential that dentists/Doctors etc are considerate of patients. After all who pays their wages??
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Not me!! ;D though I may end up====> :-X at this rate....
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You should consider
1, getting a new detist through recommendations of friends etc. I did he was fab and cured my fear. I hadn't been for over 20 years.
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2, being hypnotised or something like that to work through your fears.
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Well touch wood, Bags, so far so good, but to be honest my fear is that deep rooted, I'd need tranquilzing to get to the hypnotist to get me to the dentist... :-\
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Had my appointment. Wasn't very impressed to be honest. My once laughing, friendly dentist was very rude to me today and I got quite cross with him!
Impressed I am not..... relieved I most definitely am! ;D
I hope you luck out with the antibiotics, I really do.
moonbells (who's had to be virtually sat on to stay in the chair before now - it's the drill sound I can't stand)
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You should consider
1, getting a new detist through recommendations of friends etc. I did he was fab and cured my fear. I hadn't been for over 20 years.
or
2, being hypnotised or something like that to work through your fears.
1. This is my new dentist LOLOL
2. When I have any thing other than a check up, I am now sedated and know nothing about what's going on (so why could I still not bring myself to have root canal?!)
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Again I am sure it is down to the people being tolerant. Not dentistry but my middle daughter has a real phobia about needles. Her three children could not be natural childbirth so she had to have them by means of ????? can't spell it but you know what I mean ;D. Her second child they actually had 2 nurses holding her down. When she was going in Hosp for her third child her midwife at home was so furious she contacted the Hosp and they sedated her in the ward. Tolerance!!
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Once upon a time I had a nightmarish phobia about needles (probably like 80% of the population lol) and used to drag my mum along with me for silly things like blood tests. Then, a few years back, I got a blood clot in my lungs and had to have my blood taken about five times a day for almost two weeks. Hey, no phobia now! Ha! Just a case of getting used to it.
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I received a reminder to visit from my dentist ..... about 2 months ago if I remember well.
I know I have to go, it makes sense, it is the best thing I could ever do to keep healthy teeth.... but I keep putting it back.
I keep remembering when she positioned a cap wrongly and then had to take it off again, WITHOUT sedation. I nearly died of pain and she said it SURELY COULD NOT hurt !!! :o :o :o :-X They just simply haven't got a clue... ::) :o
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It's a bit of a lottery isn't it? I've had an excellent dentist for over 25 years, but even he managed to botch up a root canal treatment (the day before he went on holiday) which left me in intense pain and with my face blown up like a balloon. Luckily his partner was able to open it and drain the poison. Yuck :o.
When my mother was dying of cancer (about 5 years ago) I didn't have time to go for my routine check ups. After she died I kept putting it off until a filling fell out and most of the tooth seemed to come with it. My one majot dread is losing my teeth, so I made an appointment. My old dentist had retired and this was a new and unfamiliar one.
I was really nervous when I went for the appointment and fully expected to lose the tooth. To my delight he asked whether I wanted to save the tooth, which of course I did. One week later after the xray had shown that the tooth was sound I was fitted for a post crown. £138 on top of my monthly Denplan payment but well worth it for me.
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If I get anything nasty like that I take propolis for it, which is plant resin collected by bees. A pea-sized lump taken several times a day will clear up an abscess in a week or so.
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I was really nervous when I went for the appointment and fully expected to lose the tooth. To my delight he asked whether I wanted to save the tooth, which of course I did. One week later after the xray had shown that the tooth was sound I was fitted for a post crown. £138 on top of my monthly Denplan payment but well worth it for me.
I thought that if you were on Denplan then you didn't have to pay for any crowns etc, that the plan covers it all.
moonbells
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Apparently not, Moonbells. It covers you for everything the dentist does, but not work he "commissions" from others like dental technicians. So if you needed a crown or dentures or a bridge you would pay extra for having them made. I knew that so I wasn't unduly concerned, but you'd be as well to check the small print.
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If I get anything nasty like that I take propolis for it, which is plant resin collected by bees. A pea-sized lump taken several times a day will clear up an abscess in a week or so.
interesting, we gargle with a tea made from dried calendular flowers :)
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Apparently not, Moonbells. It covers you for everything the dentist does, but not work he "commissions" from others like dental technicians. So if you needed a crown or dentures or a bridge you would pay extra for having them made. I knew that so I wasn't unduly concerned, but you'd be as well to check the small print.
hmmm I DID need a crown and it was no extra cost... must see if they've changed the conditions since 2002...
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moonbells
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Could be I've got a different contract? I'll check mine too.
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My family Dentist of 20+ years is about to retire/give up. Stuck with him through thick and thin and even stayed when he moved practice to another town.
Dont know what we'll do now. Take out insurance and go private i suppose. No NHS dentists in the area now. >:( >:( >:(
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No. N.H. Dentists in the Scottish Borders either. I had to go to Berwick on Tweed to a private dentist a year ago. Think our Health Dept. is bringing in Polish Dentists soon to cover all the N.H. patients without a Dentist. The problem is really dire.
Er. I am not afraid of Dentists. Had problems with my teeth all my life so have had to just get on with it and attend whenever.
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We may have a problem getting dentists, but we also have some who are asylum seekers and aren't being allowed to work. It's a totally crazy system. My sister's on one of the out-islands on Orkney; I can't help wondering how far she'd
have to go for an NHS dentist.
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Just when I thought the antibiotics were taking a small effect, I step out into the cold air, mouth wide open and wham! now have a heavy metal band playing in the top left hand side of my mouth (http://www.uploadit.org/lagoonandcastle/badday.gif)
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YP. Oh dear, I really hope you soon gets some relief . My appointment is tomorrow, three fillings, don't know how he will manage, my teeth are chattering already. I know!! I admit to being a coward.
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YP. Oh dear, I really hope you soon gets some relief . My appointment is tomorrow, three fillings, don't know how he will manage, my teeth are chattering already. I know!! I admit to being a coward.
Lorna, what can I say? Us people who are afraid of the dentist take no notice when others say, "dont worry, it'll be fine"
Before I left AOL I used to use a lovely board on there called "Just for Fun" no serious or debateable posts were allowed, it was lovely - anyway, a lady on there once said to me, "the thought of what is going to happen is so much worse than what is actually going to happen" and that is the one piece of advice that has stuck with me ever since. I usually say it to myself over and over as I walk toward the dentists!
Good luck and do what I do, make yourself a countdown to when it will all be over! ;D xx
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YP. I did say to the dentist( who is a charming man, South African) when I had the check "Wonder why so many people are nervous when going to the dentist" His answer was " Well I suppose it is because of the unpleasant thing we sometimes have to do!!" Thanks Mr Dentist ;D
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My kids dentists are SOuth African? Wonder why there are lots of South african Dentists, both lovely by the way, neither one has yet managed to get me near that seat though. It's become a bit of a challenge!! :-X
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Lottie. In our town there seems to be an influx of South African dentists AND vets.
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Mmmmm......wonder why? ??? No idea about the vet front, but as for dentist there are alot..not that I have any problem with that, just glad there are dentists round here..
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Won't be home again til about 6.30 this evening so I hope everything went ok for you at the dentist today, Lorna :)
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Because of this thread I was reminded to make my 6-monthly appointment with the dentist, and will remind Mr M to have his. Just been this morning and all was fine thank goodness.
Thanks for this thread :) You are making the dental hygiene of the nation slightly better ;D
Hope you feel better soon YP and that Lorna's appointment went fine.
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MOGGLE. Glad that me starting this thread has done some good :) :) :)
YP.Thanks for thinking of me. All over and done with. He really is a lovely man, talks to you all the time and music playing.He's not bad looking either (down Lorna :).Only thing is the radio was playing "Had a bad day" He decided to sing to me and change the words to. "Having a NICE day". He asked me if I minded him doing all the fillings as they were all one side. Bravery reared it's head and I said "Go ahead!!!!" Just wish I could drink my cuppa without dribbling ??? Next appointment June......Lorna.
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Well done Lorna, glad it is all over and wasn't too bad. Part of being an excellent dentist is putting your patient at ease. When I went to my new one after four years and I expressed my anxiety, she sat me down and explained everything she was to do and said I could stop her at any time and was so reassuring that it made all the difference to my fears.
I hope your teeth settle down too YP and it gets resolved comfortably for you. At my sister's dentist they have a TV screen above the patients chair and you can watch various things to distract you, while the dentist does their thing. You can also take some music in for them to play, that is calming for you, which I think is a good idea. busy_lizzie
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busy-lizzie. I was literally laying flat on my back in the dentist chair, not sure if it was to stop me escaping or if that is the way he prefers to work. Only thing was I had to stop him a couple of times because there was so much water (from the jet thing) going down the back of my throat.. I could see what he was doing in the chrome piece of the two lights (reflection) I almost enjoyed that bit!!
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I bottled it :'( My appointment was 9am today and I changed it to 16.45 so I could work up some courage - but I didn't turn up. Nice non attending fee for next time I go, I guess.
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I saw on a programme on TV last night, that fillings will soon be a thing of the past. There is a gadget out now - which some dentists already have, which gets rid of the decay in a tooth without it having to be drilled.
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I didn't go to the dentist for 10 years. When I was 18 worked as a dental nurse - due to this I got put off going again. Reason was the disgusting things that I used to see there...a couple of the nurses there would wipe the instruments on the bottom of their shoe if the patient coming in was someone they didn't like. Also instruments would get rinsed and not sterilised between patients if they didn't have time to put the autoclave on. Disgusting eh! Also the dentist I worked for came in with a stomach bug - I then caught this, but they wouldn't let me go home even though I was having to rush to the toilet every 5 mins (who knows how many patients then got it?). The next day I stayed at home feeling too ill to get out of bed - they then sent another dental nurse round to tell me I'd got the sack for not going in. To tell the truth I was glad as I didn't want to be associated with a surgery like that!
My trust in dentists wasn't improved when I did go back...I went to a private dentist who said I needed 6 fillings at the cost of £300. Not being able to afford this I didn't have them done (well I wasn't in pain!). Not long after I got pregnant, so thought I might as well make use of the free NHS treatment I would get. Well this dentist told me I didn't need any fillings. Ok...who should I believe?
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Whippet. Wow that sounds good!! Hope my dentist has that treatment if I have any more fillings!!
Emma Lou. It is funny what you said about how much treatment one dentist said you needed. Lorna(jnr) takes Joshua (10) to the dentist regularly. The first dentist said EVERY time he went he needed fillings. Lorna is very fussy about his teeth and inspects them every day, sends him back to the bathroom to clean them again if she is not satisfied. Last year she was fed up with it all and registered with a dentist nearer home, he has now had three visits and hasn't had to have any treatment. I assume dentists get paid for the amount of work they do by the NHS.
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They do, unfortunatley. Occasionally one gets caught doing unnecessary work, but I assume that's only the tip of the iceberg. The thing I really don't trust them on is anaesthetic; I don't know whether things have improved, but they used to be notorious for overdosing people. A friend of mine had this happen, and it affected her heart. She could hear everything, but couldn't move or speak, and she's a nurse so she knew exactly what was happening. The dentist had no oxygen available, and was panicking. Fortunately, she pulled through. That was the same dentist who made me so ill that I ended up, several days later, having someone from the church arrive on the doorstep, extremely worried, wondering why I wasn't there to take my service. At the time, I was just starting to work on the sermon, thinking it was Saturday.
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Robert. That is frightening!!!