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Title: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: undercarriage plan on October 27, 2005, 18:38:04
I know that you shouldn't eat potatoes if they turn green, but, I was wondering.....does the same apply to carrots? Where the shoulders of mine are out of the ground, they're green, I remove this anyway, but was just curious. Thanks
Lottie  ;D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on October 27, 2005, 18:41:20
Interesting question, I have always considered them edible, but that is a risky assumption, so like you, I would prefer to know for sure, particularly considering I have probably harvested 100kg of carrots this year ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: undercarriage plan on October 27, 2005, 18:44:10
Phew! OK, glad it's not just me!!
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: wardy on October 27, 2005, 18:49:52
I think they're fine  :)
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: undercarriage plan on October 27, 2005, 18:52:25
Yes, Wardy, but you "think" !!!! You'll feel awful if we all go down with green-shoulder carrot lurgie........ :o :o :o ;)
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: jaggythistle on October 27, 2005, 18:55:29



  At worst.....dose of the scoots !!!!! :o :o :o ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: undercarriage plan on October 27, 2005, 18:57:19
What took you so long, Jags???? Think you're slipping..... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on October 27, 2005, 19:35:47
Good news Lottie!

Store carrots with the green tops trimmed. Although the tops are edible, during storage this greenery robs the carrot of moisture and nutritional value.

http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/veggies/carrot1.html

Hope this makes you feel better, it does for meĀ  :D

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: BAGGY on October 27, 2005, 19:52:54
But Derek does that mean the leafy bit or the discoloured should-be-orange-bit ?
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: undercarriage plan on October 27, 2005, 20:06:52
See!! Is very worrying now...sigh....will have to shave off all green bits, could take days.... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on October 27, 2005, 20:19:45
Well spotted Baggy, I could have killed myself, so could Lottie, then sued Google ...

complete change of stance now ...

Green Carrots you will need to hill up around your carrots with soil, if they are protruding out of the ground as they will eventually go green, green carrots will make you sick as with green potatoes.

http://www.organicdownunder.com/growing_roots_crops.htm

At least this is the safest option, and one which I practice anyway ...

You still alive lottie ... ?

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: undercarriage plan on October 27, 2005, 21:03:50
errghfyyas!! Yup!  ;D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on October 27, 2005, 23:07:52
errghfyyas!!

Would you have a translation for this ?

or do I call a paramedic ... with suspected carrot poisoning ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: dirtyfingernails on October 28, 2005, 09:27:13
another carrot question - is it best to add compost and manure to the bed before you sow (not right before but the autum before)? I've just dug the beds on the lottie but one of the other lottie people said never put fertilizer/manure or compost where you're planting your root vegetables as this will result in short/stubby roots, better to force them to find nuttients further down the soil - this made sense to me but then read in my seed catalogue that they should be planted in manured ground!

any ideas/experience anyone?
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: moonbells on October 28, 2005, 11:05:23
Well I keep blethering on about how I get decent proper carrot-shaped carrots by sowing them in deep channels of bought-in compost.  I wouldn't risk manure though.  From my perspective, there's enough forking thanks to the stones without adding more!

moonbells
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: redimp on October 28, 2005, 12:51:51
I was thinking of planting mine in very well rotted leaf mould due to its lack of nutrients - that is if I still have any left after I have used it for all the other uses I have for it.
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on October 28, 2005, 12:58:21
Dirtyfingernails, I would be inclined to use ground that has at least one, preferably two seasons since manuring. This should ensure that the ground is pretty stable regarding nutrients.

RC, I have never thought of using leaf mould, will you mix some soil in so that the nutrient balance is about right?

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: redimp on October 28, 2005, 13:00:11
I was just going to dig a trench and fill in with the stuff (I have stone problems) but I might now sieve a bit of the soil and mix it up so there is less of a 'join' between the two.
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on October 28, 2005, 15:01:20
That sounds excellent RC, it is a shame it will take almost a year to know the results ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: john_miller on October 29, 2005, 03:17:41
I was just going to dig a trench and fill in with the stuff (I have stone problems) but I might now sieve a bit of the soil and mix it up so there is less of a 'join' between the two.
If you don't do something to temper the acidity of the leaf mould you may find that you inadvertantly suppress germination rates of the carrots. Additionally, with carrot seed being so small, a relatively broad swath of leaf mould (which is almost completely carbon, not a nutrient) may also prevent the root initial reaching nutrients before the reserves in the seed are exhausted. Mixing in soil will almost definitely help overcome these problems.
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on October 29, 2005, 12:36:40
Thanks John, you have explained my suspicions in quite a good technical manner ...  :)

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: daveandtara on October 30, 2005, 01:27:30
while on the subject of daft carrot questions..............
 anyone care to guess why my carrots are still only one inch long?
i planted them at the end of june. they taste lovely but they are so small, no thicker than a pencil.
also, can i leave them in the ground til xmas or should i bring them home and freeze them?
pathetic as they are they'll look cute with the sprouts and i'm desperate to something homegrown for christmas dinner!
Tara xx
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Palustris on October 30, 2005, 09:23:15
Interesting link this I thought.
http://www.vegparadise.com/highestperch412.html
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on October 30, 2005, 12:21:09
Interesting? I found it thoroughly absorbing !

Thank you Eric !

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: HO on October 30, 2005, 19:19:10
I wish my carrots this year were as thick as a pencil! I just cannot grow the things consistently. And in the years the crop is good those rotten, stinking, foul,  little black slugs get there first, usually. If I get to heaven I,m going to have a word with the Boss about them.
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: tim on October 30, 2005, 19:27:45
OK, Eric - it's 2 carrots a day for me in future!! Better than statins?
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: moonbells on November 01, 2005, 16:47:01
If it helps any, here's a piccy of the grown-in-compost Autumn King carrots I pulled on Sunday (as well as the Sarpo spuds). Never had such whoppers!
(http://www.moonbells.freeserve.co.uk/allotment/2005/October_05/a_301005_3.jpg)
The bucket is a normal 99p job from the local DIY store, so you can get some idea of scale.  I do grow them under enviromesh so the only problem is slugs.

moonbells
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on November 01, 2005, 19:38:48
Lovely ! ! !

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: moonbells on November 01, 2005, 22:10:06
Lovely ! ! !

Derekthefox :D

not quite up to your carrot's size  ;)  ;)  ;)

moonbells

ps if anyone doesn't understand *that* reference, see
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/yabbse/index.php/topic,13747.msg132009.html#msg132009

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Daft carrot question.. .sorry!
Post by: Derekthefox on November 02, 2005, 08:41:37
If they don't understand that reference, Moonbells, perhaps they are on the wrong website  ;D ;D ;D

Derekthefox :D
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