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Title: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Mrs Ava on September 02, 2005, 22:59:11
On my plot visit this evening I noticed that my celeriac (Alabaster) has now started to bulb up at the base, and I reakon I will be able to start using them in a few weeks as the summer crops come to an end! I leave mine in all winter and they come to no harm, so have some yummy roots to use!
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Jesse on September 02, 2005, 23:03:08
Glad you mentioned celeriac EJ, noticed mine is also starting to bulb up and wasn't sure when it's ready to start using. Judging by what's sticking out the top of the soil, they're probably about tennis ball size at the moment. Are they better used smaller or does it not make a difference? :)
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: undercarriage plan on September 03, 2005, 17:33:30
I grew celeriac last season, over wintered it like EJ, was fine. Was also told by person who gave me plants, to remove old, lower leaves as new ones emerged from the centre. Not sure why! But didn't do any harm!! Whether it helped or not, not sure! Lottie
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Svea on September 03, 2005, 20:06:35
i think that is just to keep the area around the plants tidy, lottie - to discourage pests like snails hiding there.
i remove a lot of dead foliage from around cabbages and that as well - because that is where the buggers are usually hiding out!
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: undercarriage plan on September 03, 2005, 20:19:44
Sounds right Svea! Think I'm lucky, have toads on site, seem to deal with slugs, founf one in greenhouse too, only ickle one but from small acorns, big toads grow! Not done celeriac  this year, wish I had now and not bothered with purple cabbage!! Lottie  ::)
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Derekthefox on September 04, 2005, 16:30:13
I have planted celeriac again, having really enjoyed it last year. Like others, I just leave it in the ground until it is required. I have not noticed any slug interference before, so presumed slugs not interested. Not checked on its current status, mainly because it is masked by the weeds !

Also I have too many other crops to worry about harvesting . . .

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Mrs Ava on September 04, 2005, 23:22:04
Jessevieve, I start using them as I need them, so from golf ball onwards.  This spring, when I was down to the last few, they did start to go a little fibrous inside, but careful preperation was all that was needed!  Tennis ball is a great size, and they are fab in soups and stews, such a subtle flavour and great texture!  A real hit!
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: tricia on September 05, 2005, 13:35:25
I only had room for 8 plants in my mini veggie plot, but they are growing really well. I use the leaves to add flavour to stocks, sauces and stews.

I learned about celeriac when I lived in Germany where they also make a beautiful salad with cooked diced celeriac and raw apple. And celeriac mashed with potatoes and carrots...........yum!

Tricia
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: tim on October 01, 2005, 18:38:56
Luckily, for the first time ever, we have 2 good rows**. So I'm right with Emma on using them as soon as you would like them.

As to storage, if you're worried about leaving them in the ground - if you have any - why not freeze?

** But not all the interplanting worked - too crowded. Looked fine at the seedling stage.

This is now - & earlier.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: blight on October 01, 2005, 18:50:32
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I learned about celeriac when I lived in Germany where they also make a beautiful salad with cooked diced celeriac and raw apple.
also grated fine and used raw in a salad on its own .
add vinaigrette  quickly to prevent discolouring. in germany we can´t leave celeriac
in the open during winter. it usually gets too cold. i put mine in a clamp together with potatoes and carrots.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Debs on October 01, 2005, 20:41:39
Dug one of my celeriac last week to see how big they were.

They had not started to bulb up - perhaps because I'm on the

north east ( chillier ) coast??

Debs
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: adrianhumph on October 02, 2005, 14:02:10
Hi all,  :D,
              There was lots of discussion earlier in the year here about celariacs, so how have they done  ???
  Here is a pic of the first one I pulled yesterday, it weighed about  800gms after trimming, & tasted great  ;D  good news is I`ve got another 16 just like this one  8)
The variety is called brilliant , seeds from Dobies.
                                                                             Adrian.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Derekthefox on October 02, 2005, 14:30:42
Well I live in Coventry Debs, in the Midlands, and mine are no bigger than small tomatoes. I hope they get their act together soon !

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: tim on October 02, 2005, 16:40:54
Brilliant, Adrian!

Nothing that a good swivel peeler can't tackle, wardy?
But yes, messy sink!
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Debs on October 03, 2005, 15:42:06
Adrianhumph,

WOW :o

They look fab.

What type are they?

Hope mine get a growth spurt ;D
Debs
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Debs on October 04, 2005, 17:23:06
So they are brilliant eh ;)

Shall be getting myself to Dobies to buy some...

Debs 8)

(If I took the shades off I might have seen the name!!!)
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: tim on November 23, 2005, 11:12:38
Disappointing after a very hopeful start.

The squares are 20mm. (I'll do focus one day!!)
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Svea on November 23, 2005, 12:49:59
mine's bigger than yours, tim  :P
(never thought i'd say this to a bloke)

i am finding, with my own potatoes now having run out, that you can use celeriac, swede and even parsnips as excellent pot substitutes. not for everything, but for most uses. especially for the carb part of a meal - who needs more than one rot veg? :)

svea (learning alternative cooking/eating habits)
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: tim on November 23, 2005, 13:25:45
And all mashed coarsly together, as we had today. With a leek & parsley. Lovely veg stock left over for soup!

And, as from today - NO added salt! For every gram of salt I have to eat a banana to balance it!!
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: dingerbell on November 23, 2005, 16:14:17
I always pop a little Celeriac foliage into soups and stews....adds a gentle Celery tatse. Also chop leaves finely and together with chopped Parsley, add to mashed taters....Yum Yum
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Derekthefox on November 25, 2005, 08:54:25
Wow, I never thought of using the foliage as a green garnish ...

Thanks dingerbell

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Svea on November 25, 2005, 11:45:28
I always pop a little Celeriac foliage into soups and stews....adds a gentle Celery tatse. Also chop leaves finely and together with chopped Parsley, add to mashed taters....Yum Yum

i grow lovage for that - much more intense flavour.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Svea on November 25, 2005, 11:48:31
want some seeds? it's a perennial, so i have had my share :)
PM me your address, and i can pop some in the post.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: aquilegia on November 25, 2005, 12:08:52
Only had Celeriac for the first time this year (thanks to my Scottish counsin!) but now love the stuff. Buy it whenever I see it at the local(ish - about 20 mins on the tube away!) green grocers!

Am going to feed the slugs with it next year... I mean, attempt to grow it!
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Svea on November 25, 2005, 13:00:20
actually, the only trouble i had with celeriac et al was the celery leaf miner. affected celery, celeriac and the lovage too - only didnt bother with parsley (i bet the leaves were too small to mine properly ;D)

any organic methods of controlling that? other than regularly picking off affected leaves and binning them - which i forgot to do in the latter stages.....
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: aquilegia on November 25, 2005, 13:03:22
hooray - that is good news. (Although it does mean that if they don't grow I will have only my own incompetence to blame!)
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Looby Loo on November 27, 2005, 15:43:00
We got a bit excited by all the talk of celariac so I let the OH dig one up yesterday.  I think they need a bit longer.  Shame, but I will use it anyway.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: tim on November 27, 2005, 16:17:16
Asked the Farmers' Market how they got theirs so big. "Sow in January under cover & put out when about ? 4" high".
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Derekthefox on November 27, 2005, 16:50:57
Thanks Tim, mine only normally end up small apple size after peeling, but they are always appreciated as they are so tasty. This year though, they seem to be very small. Perhaps the bit of ground they ended up on was just not up to much.

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Svea on November 27, 2005, 23:25:34
i sowed indoors in feb and planted out in late april/early may? they are good size - not as huge as in the shops but bigger than tim's.
i earthed them up too as they grew and poked their heads through - not sure that helped with anything other than weed control....?
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: adrianhumph on November 28, 2005, 09:12:32
Hi all, :D
               Look at my picture that was posted on page 1, I followed the first class instructions in Sue Stricklands article in January`s Kitchen garden magazine . Basically you must sow early, by mid March, they must be kept frost free, & not put out until the end of May. They need fertile soil enriched with manure or compost & they need LOTS of water through the season. I also grew mine under enviromesh to prevent carrot fly infestation. I have no greenhouse facilities, so it was a bit of a pain putting the plants out on good days & bringing them back in at night throughout April & May, so next year i have ordered from Dobies 20 plants already grown on & ready to plant out, (delivery during May).
                                                                                  Adrian.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Svea on November 28, 2005, 11:13:25
i didnt water mine hardly at all (as i am far to too lazy)
i have heavy clay soil though which retains moisture quite well even when it's hot and dry - so they did just fine :)
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Derekthefox on November 28, 2005, 12:23:35
Thanks for that guidance Adrian, as usual, I hope to have a bumper crop next year (aren't we all the same here - 'next' year will be better ! ).

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Mothy on November 29, 2005, 20:35:23
Mine are still quite small, but usable (and very tasty) I intend to get them in earlier next year. We have no water at our plot which is a bit of a problem.  :(
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Moggle on November 30, 2005, 09:56:42
Mine are lucky to be the size of golf balls when peeled :( Don't think I sowed mine until april or possibly even May, so I will have to try earlier next year.

Slugs left mine alone too :)
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: terrace max on November 30, 2005, 14:46:45
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Asked the Farmers' Market how they got theirs so big. "Sow in January under cover & put out when about ? 4" high".


Thanks for this Tim. Noted.  I definitely want more of this beautiful (tasting) vegetable in 2006.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Derekthefox on November 30, 2005, 14:58:12
I reckon I might try some sown in January 2006 then, I have a light box at work, which should work ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Debs on November 30, 2005, 21:26:15
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Asked the Farmers' Market how they got theirs so big. "Sow in January under cover & put out when about ? 4" high".


Yes, thanks Tim :-*

I too wondered why mine were so wee...

Early sowing for me next year too - or should that be in 6-8 weeks ;)

Debs
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Mothy on December 02, 2005, 08:43:50
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Asked the Farmers' Market how they got theirs so big. "Sow in January under cover & put out when about ? 4" high".

Will the frost affect celeriac if put out too soon?
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: adrianhumph on December 02, 2005, 08:57:51
Hi mothy,
              Oh yes it will, they are tender like beans & courgettes, DO NOT plant out until all risk of frost has passed.
                                                     Adrian.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Svea on December 02, 2005, 10:02:50
they are certainly tender as baby plants - the adults right now are quite hardy - though i have covered them with bracken now... - i only harvest when i need them.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 02, 2005, 19:02:24
I reckon I have about 50 in theory, but I have not harvested any yes, as they seem so tiny ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: tim on December 03, 2005, 11:58:29
So what happened - or didn't?? Plus some advuce.

Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 03, 2005, 12:48:39
Mine seem to be like that this year too Tim, no bulk to the roots at all ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: real food on December 04, 2005, 17:25:00
For the first year ever, I managed to get usable roots of Celeriac, but I sowed the seed early under cover, and then transplanted them, and that seems to have made the difference this year.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: real food on December 06, 2005, 18:32:52
I have just inspected my celeriac after the recent frosts, and the foliage is not affected. They must be much tougher than I thought. By comparison, my celery, even though it was protected by fleece, was completely wrecked by the frost.
Title: Re: Celeriac info for Wardy (and others)
Post by: tim on December 06, 2005, 18:44:58
Celery - self-blanching? If so, then yes!
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