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Title: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 16, 2005, 09:29:38
Someone remarked upon the difficulty in picking certain courgettes.

I couldn't agree more.  I find that varieties like Ronde, Lebanese Bush & White Volunteer are almost impossible to approach, & visibility is nil - whereas such as Genovese, the most productive variety that I've grown, is there for the taking.

Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on July 16, 2005, 09:58:20
I agree Tim and will take your advice and grow Genovese next year.  I found a courgette yesterday that was a whopper.  Must have missed it on previous forays  :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 16, 2005, 10:07:48
It'll still taste good!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: northener on July 16, 2005, 10:21:05
I'm trying hard not to make a phone joke.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on July 16, 2005, 10:31:31
Feel free Northerner  ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 16, 2005, 10:53:34
Genovese? On the other hand, Wardy, the quality of the squat or round ones might make your suffering worthwhile??
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Piglottie on July 16, 2005, 11:38:20
I'm growing round ones - free seed from a magazine.  Something Nice de Ronde I think.  But they seem to be growing sooo slowly.  Sown into pots 16 May, quite good germination, kept them in the house on windowsill till end of 1st week in June, then outside to harden off.  Planted them in new plot about 3rd week in June - through black plastic as am trying to clear new plot of weeds.  But they seem to be growing really slowly.  Still only have about 6-8 leaves and just so slow to grow really.  When I planted I put compost in the planting hole, manure deeper in the soil (under the planting hole) - there's no slug attacks.  Have been watering about twice a week.  Not sure if this is normal growth or if there's a problem.  Anyone?
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Gadfium on July 16, 2005, 11:54:10
I've got x3 round courgette plants on the allotment:

Sown - 14th April & 10th May
Planted out - 5th June
First Pick - 2nd July
Now - Had 4 courgettes in total; but they are really starting to throw out the buds. No appreciable size difference between the early & late sown plants.

They are having to make do with only a bit of rooster booster, and a few handfuls of compost in the original planting hole... because that was all I had at the time.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 16, 2005, 12:01:11
I find the 'roundies' much slower to produce. I think that they're trying to do too much at once?
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 16, 2005, 17:22:45
Or maybe they were tied up in making this one?? How does one miss them??
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Derekthefox on July 16, 2005, 17:42:42
Remember though that the round varieties yield a lot more courgette - possibly to much for anything other than registered courgettaholics . . .

I am extremely happy with my Jemmer, now have 8 plants (am I mad?), being yellow I can see them even as I enter my plot . . .
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Piglottie on July 16, 2005, 22:34:10
Spoke to soon!  Haven't been down to plot since Tuesday evening and Mr Ps been saying that the courgettes leaves have been turning yellow  :o  So went down today and guess what?  Yellow leaves turn out to be flowers  ;D ;D  Bless him - but he's even more of a beginner than me.  Great news though, may get courgettes soon  :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on July 17, 2005, 09:04:00

Ooeer Piglottie,

I haven't been down to my plot for about 5 days :-[

but I am going today -  wonder what surprises there will

be in store for me - apart from a healthy glut of weeds!!

Debs
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on July 17, 2005, 16:44:51
Well I'm back from the lottie and a tad disappointed.

My courgettes look healthy enough, but have only 1 courgette

growing, which is approx 2".

Am I too impatient??

Debs  ???
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: redimp on July 17, 2005, 18:26:26
Yes - but so am I  ;D  I did get one yesterday - now I want more and the rest are still very little.  Also because of the dog knocking my tray caddy off the day after plating and knocking out all the pot labels, I do not know which of the plants are courgettes, which are marrows (little difference I know) and which are pumpkins  ???
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: shaolin101 on July 17, 2005, 20:24:11
i am also growing the round ones and they are producing flowers that open every day (and die back the same day).

No sign of any courgettes yet though! Keep thinking they are just going to die off after the flowers have had enough.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 17, 2005, 20:44:25
Male or female dying off??
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Svea on July 17, 2005, 21:06:20
first flush of flowers are always male, liam. female flowers follow a little later and have a tiny embryonic courgette behind the flower :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Piglottie on July 17, 2005, 21:10:15
Oh no!  Does that mean I'm not guaranteed to get courgettes off my two flowers?  :'(   Will I ever get courgettes......
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Svea on July 17, 2005, 21:11:26
of course you will. myy courgettes have been very slow too, but now there are a few female flowers and one 3inch courgette (finger thickness) in sight :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Piglottie on July 17, 2005, 21:14:27
 ;D ;D ;D  Svea - you give me hope.  Thanks!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wivvles on July 17, 2005, 21:33:50
Tim - I picked one about that size today - about 4 inches in diameter.  Thursday evening it was just bigger than a golf ball, so I didn't pick it -  so I'll be checking more regularly from now one. 

Strangely, that plant (which I planted in a hole in which I put three overripe bananas following a tip from on here) has sent out a trailing stem which I am training up a pole.  There are at least another six courgettes forming on that shoot, plus another couple on the main stem.  The other plant, that I planted at the same time (but with torn up comfrey leaves in the planting hole) has produced as many courgettes, but has formed a fairly compact bush.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Svea on July 17, 2005, 21:47:30
how odd! i must have missed the banana tip. what does it add to the plant that it doesnt get otherwise, i wonder.....
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: shaolin101 on July 17, 2005, 22:48:34
Tim, Not sure whether they were male or female (they are normally getting ready to open when i see them and by the next time i get there they have shrivelled)

Took the sign that flowers are growing as a good one though!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: carloso on July 18, 2005, 22:12:12
wow i read 62 cougettes off one plant im sad of course but maybe glad that only 2 out of 12 plants survived childhood !!

question is im growing round cougettes (i thought theyd be nice to stuff with rice, herby tom and cougette mixture)
at what roundness are they best at if to small will the be woody or will it mean i just do myself out of extra coiugette ? but then again it would be nice to serve as one to a plate nice portion size if you know what i mean lol

carl
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Icyberjunkie on July 18, 2005, 22:23:14
and who says size isn't important!!!  ;)     

Anyway, on size; I have a number of courgettes that have grown fine in length but up to 30% of the flower end has stayed around 1cm thick while the rest has grown normally.  A bit like one of those long balloons not fully blown up.

Has anyone else experienced this?  Is it down to watering - or lack of? 

Iain
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Mrs Ava on July 18, 2005, 22:51:33
I think that is due to poor pollination....I think.  I had a couple earlier on in the season that did that, but now they are all doing the business nice and evenly, and toooo fast!!!!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 19, 2005, 05:06:48
Carloso - they say golfball upwards but, depending upon variety, I would be wary about too much 'up'!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: dingerbell on July 19, 2005, 09:45:10
I don't know about anyone else but I've got courgettes coming out of my ears!!  I'm sure that every night someone is sneaking onto my plot and sticking extra courgettes on the plant!!
A superb recipe that freezes is Courgette Pasta Sauce.  I've already got 10lb of it in the freezer and that represents 30lb of fresh courgettes. I hate to waste anything.
The recipe for 2 people:
Slug of Olive Oil
4 0z chopped Pancetta or smoked streaky bacon (omit if veggie)
2/3 cloves of garlic (I can't get enough)
1 medium Onion
4/6 Courgettes, finely shredded
Fresh Parmesan Regiano
Double Cream
Fresh Black Pepper

Heat oil in heavy duty frying pan and add chopped Pancetta or bacon and sizzle for 5 mins. Add chopped garlic and chopped onion and sweat off until just starting to colour. Add the shredded courgette and cook, constantly stirring until ALL the liquid has disappeared and the olive oil starts to appear in the bottom of the pan.  The courgettes will now start to take on colour.
At this stage, allow to cool and freeze in containers.
To finish the dish, add small carton of double cream and heat till slightly thickened, add fresh black pepper and lots of freshly grated Parmesan.
I like this sauce served with "ribbed" Penne pasta as the sauce sticks nicely to it.
It's a heavenly supper dish. Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on July 19, 2005, 09:53:22
It is delish and a good way of using the glut.  An Australian bloke on telly cooked loads of courgettes in quite a lot of oil in the bottom of a big frying pan and added anchovy fillets and stirred til they disappeared oh and some garlic.  The oil forms the basis of the "sauce" which is why he used quite a lot.  Stirred all the courgettes in and they cook down to a glutinous mass and then you stir that into the cooked pasta and eat  :)  Apparently you can do it with brocolli too  :)

I have some balloon shaped courgettes too - they still taste just as good  :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: dingerbell on July 19, 2005, 12:25:39
Another fabulous, freezable recipe for courgettes is as per the Pasta Sauce recipe but add curry powder and a little Gram Flour to the mixture at the end , together with chopped fresh coriander and mint, omitting the cream and Parmesan, mould into patties and coat with egg and seasoned flour. Deep fry till golden and serve with spicy chutney or yogurt, mint and cucumber. They freeze perfectly. ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 20, 2005, 08:50:36
dinger - "stirring until ALL the liquid has disappeared " - WHAT LIQUID??
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: ptennisnet on July 20, 2005, 09:52:18
Try the roast garlic / courgette soup from one of the recent kitchen gardener mags.  It's yummy and should freeze - I hope it does as I made a vat of it yesterday.

You can also use the biig 'uns from when you don't go down the plot for a week....
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: dingerbell on July 20, 2005, 09:58:47
dinger - "stirring until ALL the liquid has disappeared " - WHAT LIQUID??
Tim, when you start to saute the courgettes, they sweat like hell. You need to boil off this liquid to ensure your sauce isn't too wet. It won't stick to the pasta. The whole object is too reduce your shredded courgettes down to a sticky pulp. Less water.....more taste ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 20, 2005, 12:26:18
Thanks for that - but not a drop of liquid!

So - it's now not a sauce but a ........??
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: dingerbell on July 20, 2005, 13:11:19
Thanks for that - but not a drop of liquid!

So - it's now not a sauce but a ........??
Looks OK, just add double cream, Parmesan and a twist of Black Pepper and Yum Yum :)
I get a lot of liquid because I cook in huge batches for freezing....Dinger
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wivvles on July 20, 2005, 13:14:17
Try the roast garlic / courgette soup from one of the recent kitchen gardener mags.  It's yummy and should freeze - I hope it does as I made a vat of it yesterday.

You can also use the biig 'uns from when you don't go down the plot for a week....
I made that for my MIL and myself yesterday - used the big round one that I picked at the weekend, weighed a pound.  I actually used EJ's (?) roast garlic and marrow soup off Recipes 4 All from last year.  Anyway it was bloody delicious and earned me top marks...
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Svea on July 20, 2005, 15:57:08
what time is tea, tim? :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: carloso on July 20, 2005, 19:27:05
cheers tim

the type of courgette are Eight Ball F1 i have one already thats about tennis ball size so i may just have him for breakfast and chuck a poached egg inside of him !! once cooked
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: carloso on July 20, 2005, 19:30:43
just another quick one whilst im thinking courgette

is it possible to save the seeds out the centre and use if so how are tghye saved any particular fashion ?

carl
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 20, 2005, 20:15:54
Don't know - but 'spose so?

dinger - you've got me into trouble - dear Wife says 'do those anytime - like for the children at the w/e'. Thanks a lot.!!!!

PS Didn't have gram so used soya.
PPS The mint is great.



Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on July 20, 2005, 20:46:45
Top scran Tim ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 21, 2005, 06:27:44
Trust the RN to know!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 25, 2005, 12:20:14
Just have to say that dinger's burger recipe has stolen everyones hearts.

Yes - with bigger quantities I did get a tablespoon of liquid, but that was all.

Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: dingerbell on July 25, 2005, 12:56:28
Tim,
Glad to hear that they were loved by all.
Another TOP Courgette recipe is a variation on the Curried Patties. Make as normal but leave out curry spices, mint and coriander. Cook and allow to cool. Add  grated Parmesan and Cheddar (equal quantities), a little SR flour and bind with an egg. The mixture will be runnier than the patties but don't worry, pour spoonfuls into a hot oiled frying pan and you have scrummy Courgette and cheese pancakes. Serve witha chunky home made tomato sauce.
Yum Yum...they're gorgeous with crispy bacon and fried egg for breakfast too ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 27, 2005, 16:48:27
Thanks for that.

To get back to growing them, many of my Ronde (type) & Lebanese/Bush White (type) are rotting each day, whereas very few of my Genovese have gone.

And I still have 'thorns' in my hand from picking tonight.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: organicartist on July 27, 2005, 17:29:33
just another quick one whilst im thinking courgette

is it possible to save the seeds out the centre and use if so how are tghye saved any particular fashion ?

carl

You sure can, but you do need to make sure the seed is mature,so save seed from a courgette you have allowed to grow to marrow proportions. Remove seeds from marrow/courgette, rinse well to remove stringy pulpy bits (which could make seeds rot), and place on a few sheets of kitchen roll. Leave in a warm place (airing cupboard is ideal), for about a week, or until seeds are completely dry. store in an envelope or paper bag.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: redimp on July 27, 2005, 17:36:56
just another quick one whilst im thinking courgette

is it possible to save the seeds out the centre and use if so how are tghye saved any particular fashion ?

carl

You sure can, but you do need to make sure the seed is mature,so save seed from a courgette you have allowed to grow to marrow proportions. Remove seeds from marrow/courgette, rinse well to remove stringy pulpy bits (which could make seeds rot), and place on a few sheets of kitchen roll. Leave in a warm place (airing cupboard is ideal), for about a week, or until seeds are completely dry. store in an envelope or paper bag.

Also make sure that you have an open pollinated and not an F1 variety.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on July 27, 2005, 19:13:39
Good idea for the breakfast patties Dinger    Just the way to get rid of all my courgettes to my B & B guests  :)  tomorrow they will mostly be leaving with bulb fennel   ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Derekthefox on July 31, 2005, 14:05:03
I have just done a count, and am picking over 50 courgettes (Jemmer) a week off my 8 plants! I am now losing friends and colleagues as a result. Can anyone recommend a suitable support group or counselling ?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Svea on July 31, 2005, 14:51:35
derek,
have you considered setting up a market stall yet?

;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 31, 2005, 16:23:00
A steep learning curve, Derek??
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Derekthefox on July 31, 2005, 17:14:03
Some things you just never learn eh Tim . . .  :D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on July 31, 2005, 19:36:26
So true.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: sammyd on July 31, 2005, 20:12:46
i lost the seed packet and so planted my courgettes a few inches apart then realised they should have been 36 inches apart. The plants are huge and now very sqashed together but look v healthy. i can't see the cucumber plants throgh all the leaves

BUT

i've jus picked my first courgette and its about seven inches long..

jus rang round my friends who share the lottie..

we all v v happy


Gonne celebrate with a glass of wine and look lovingly at my courgette!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: redimp on August 02, 2005, 19:24:13
I am getting very frustrated - I have had the sum total of three courgettes so far from four plants.  How come everybody else is having a glut and I am not.  I really want to cook the courgette and lemon fritters in <Food> but cannot muster the required 700g.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Svea on August 02, 2005, 19:36:12
steal from an allotment neighbour, RC? that's what i am doing, as lack of courgettes. they are glad to see the back of them, too (i did ask permission first)

go on, the receipes are really worth it! :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 02, 2005, 19:43:15
Sammyd  ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: shaolin101 on August 03, 2005, 09:54:27
I have not had one yet!

Female are forming with the fruit behind - the flower on the first one didn't even open and most of the old leaves have gone brown and dying at teh bottom (although new ones seem to be forming at the very top).

No idea whats going on with them but am gonna water them and just leave them to it now!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 03, 2005, 10:03:42
Once they start fruiting you'll be innundated - hopefully  :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: moonbells on August 03, 2005, 23:06:48
Once they start fruiting you'll be innundated - hopefully  :)

I agree with that! Early on, I had a couple of spare plants which I gave to others. One I even planted for the recipient! Both grew like h*ll and were way bigger than my own plants and fruiting weeks ago which was annoying. But mine have caught up and are now trying to bury me. Got five tonight. One rather too big one, and it was tiddly on Sunday...  aaaargh!

(But at least the runners have now started producing - got the first 1.5lb off tonight so I can finally enjoy baked buttered marrow and runner beans, my absolute favourite combination!

moonbells
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: supernan on August 04, 2005, 08:01:08
 :) I am growing a variety called Romanesco. Mr Fothergill's seeds.

Very ridged, leaves are not too prolific so you can see courgettes, plants throw up one a day/every other day. Have seven bushes planted and they are very firm and nutty when cooked. Very little liquid when cooking so seem ideal to freeze. Each fruit weighs 4/6oz.

They are the best courgettes I have ever grown over the years. Also they were quick to sprout and out of 20 I planted 18 grew. So I think this is one for you all to try. Plus there were enough seeds in the pack for me to grow the same again next year.

To use up surplus or get fusssy kids to eat them, grate in to any stew, sauce at fry the onion stage.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 04, 2005, 10:45:20
Thanks for the info Supernan  :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on August 04, 2005, 19:13:30
I too am quite disappointed at the lack of courgette glut.

After having heeded advice given from various knowledgeable bods, I

sensibly planted only 2 plants - both very healthy looking, but I

am awaiting the anticipated glut...

I HAVEN'T HARVESTED ONE YET !!! >:( >:( >:(

(Are my courgettes laughing at me?  :'( )

Debs ???
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Svea on August 04, 2005, 19:23:15
stole a 4kg whopper today from neighbours' plot. ;D
off to make ...err....well, something with it :o
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on August 04, 2005, 19:24:55
Debs - this is awful - we've let you down.

Where, what, & when?? They should be fool (excuse the term) proof.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: SueK on August 04, 2005, 21:13:29
Don't worry, Debs, mine are similarly having a bit of a giggle at my expense, but then I'm sure it's just a matter of time as mine would probably be down as 'late' sowings direct in the garden in June.  It worked last year, though.

Supernan, I was very interested to read about your growing the Romanesco variety, as the blurb in the catalogues makes it sound like the elite of the courgette world.  Would you say it had a temprament (sp?) to match or does it seem fairly robust?  I only ask because I noticed that Seeds of Italy were selling it too and mention it being from Rome originally, whereas we are enjoying a Yorkshire summer.

Sue
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on August 04, 2005, 21:15:53
...and more to the point, is it Debs-proof??

Debs ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Svea on August 04, 2005, 22:11:06
another take on the dingerbell receipe - as the sauce looks almost white try with black (squid) pasta - makes it look very special :)
good enough for dinner guests, i think :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: undercarriage plan on August 04, 2005, 22:17:16
Redclanger, I've planted all my squash on the compost heap, together, ( seemed like a good idea at the time.... :-\)and I've noticed that the pumkins' leaves are a  bit of a paler green than the gourds and marrows, any help? Lottie
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: redimp on August 04, 2005, 22:32:05
Redclanger, I've planted all my squash on the compost heap, together, ( seemed like a good idea at the time.... :-\)and I've noticed that the pumkins' leaves are a  bit of a paler green than the gourds and marrows, any help? Lottie

Thanks for the tip - I shall have a look tomorrow.  It might be the information I need as I know the leaf shape of the courgette.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on August 05, 2005, 23:37:20
I too am quite disappointed at the lack of courgette glut.

After having heeded advice given from various knowledgeable bods, I

sensibly planted only 2 plants - both very healthy looking, but I

am awaiting the anticipated glut...

I HAVEN'T HARVESTED ONE YET !!! >:( >:( >:(

(Are my courgettes laughing at me?  :'( )

Debs ???

Well they're laughing at me. I planted 14.


I carry a Morrisons bag to work every day. And I'm running out of recipients :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: the_snail on August 05, 2005, 23:48:23
 :o 14 plants sounds like you like caugettes :D

I planted 6 and had my first caugette today  ::)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: BAGGY on August 07, 2005, 11:16:42
My courgette leaves have white 'rain splash' like marks on them.  I don't know if that helps distinguish what is what.  As for squash I don't have a clue what is growing on my site as a lot of my seed was saved form supermarket squashes and my labelling technique leaves a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on August 07, 2005, 14:17:00
I have one courgette, which I bought as a pumpkin. The first courgette is about ready, but as I don't like them much I'm going to let it grow into a marrow.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: plot51A on August 07, 2005, 22:31:00
SueK
I'm growing Romanesco - mine were from Seeds of Italy, and I agree with supernan, they are great and I've found them easy to grow with no problems. Best ever shall certainly do them again.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: keef on August 08, 2005, 12:32:28
I've been on Holiday for 2 weeks, when i went there were only a few small gourgettes (about cigerette size) on my 3 plants. Went up the lottie last night, picked 7 absolutely massive marrows ! :o
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on August 08, 2005, 13:08:38
Are you letting them ripen so that they will store??
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: daisymay on August 08, 2005, 13:19:59
Have to say, we have been steadily eating our courgettes for about 6 weeks now. (sorry!)

Planted 2 plants and have been picking one every 2 days on average I would say. Not exactly a glut! but not a bad yield.

Would prob plant 3/4 plants on the lottie next year as we have never had too many, or been able to give any away to friends and family. 
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: aquilegia on August 08, 2005, 13:37:06
 :'( For the second year in a row, I'm having a complete lack of courgette glut.

Not surprising this year - all 16 plants were eaten by slugs shortly after planting out. Still - I've learned not to plant them out so small next time. The squashes and patty pans I planted out later and bigger are romping away! (even if the horrid slimers did eat the first squash that I lovingly hand pollinated!) Patty pans are now producing female flowers, so fingers crossed.

But I gave a work colleague some seeds and he's presented me with a marrow that I think used to be a genovese! That'll keep us in courgette dinners for a week or so!

Romanesco sounds interesting. (Aqui slaps hand as it reaches for seed catelogue!)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: keef on August 08, 2005, 13:38:22
Are you letting them ripen so that they will store??

Nah, i'm going to stuff one for tea tonite and keep one for later. I've given the rest away. They seem to keep for weeks without doing anything special anyway.

I know there will be loads more by the end of the week, i left a couple threating looking ones on the plants last nite.

I plant mine in a big hole filled with manure - they seem to really like that. Last year i had 5 plants and had gourgettes coming out my ears for about 2 months.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on August 09, 2005, 18:37:57
Triumph at last!! ;D

Yesterday, I found 2 courgettes of approx 4 - 5".

Also dug up a good crop of potatoes (type u/k)

Potatoes were lightly boiled and fried off together with the courgettes

and sliced garlic, in olive oil and a touch of seasoning..

They tasted great!   ;D

Debs (not such a novice courgette grower now!!)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 09, 2005, 23:03:32
Congrats Debs   ;D   Congratulations and celebrations, I want the world to know I'm as  happy a courgette grower as can be  ;D

sorry, I'll get me coat  :(
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Maddy on August 09, 2005, 23:06:41
Thanks Wardy, I'm about to go to bed with "that" song stuck in my head now  :P  Quick give me something else to sing "She is the courgette queen, small and green, only 4 - 5" long!"  Falls apart at the end I know  ;D

M.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 09, 2005, 23:21:28
 ;D ;D#

I'll go off now thinking up courgette related song lyrics.  Got to be up early as got to cook breakfast right early.  might just do courgette fritters  :o
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on August 10, 2005, 09:00:51

Mad Maddy and Warped Wardy  ;D ;D ;D

I though, am a happy little courgette grower

Debs ;)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on August 10, 2005, 11:34:04
Although White Bush (left) are certainly the densest & tastiest that I've tried, the effort in picking them through their 'barbed wire' canopy is just too off-putting!!

So - I'll be majoring, as ever, on Genovese.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: jennym on August 10, 2005, 12:01:54
Tim, where did you get you Genovese?
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on August 10, 2005, 15:16:17
www.organiccatalogue.com

With so many to choose from, I can't say that it is the best. All I know is that year on year it has served us well - record 62 to a plant & easy to get at!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: littlegem on August 10, 2005, 15:27:30
i've got 3 courgette plants, have had about ten courgettes off them so far, but one has started to wither away and die, what could cause this, the other two look ok
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on August 10, 2005, 18:27:30
Another reason why I HATE Ronde - I'm still trying to get the spines out of my hand after this lot!!

Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Icyberjunkie on August 10, 2005, 18:59:40
"Black Beauty" did it for me.  Have not kept a count but the six plants have kept about 3 households in courgettes.  Fast growing, heavy cropping, great taste and not to spiny!

Will be growing about half that next year!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 10, 2005, 19:30:27
Littlegem   You can expect a few to wither.  They usually do  :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: vegging out on August 10, 2005, 19:53:00
i've got 3 courgette plants, have had about ten courgettes off them so far, but one has started to wither away and die, what could cause this, the other two look ok
I've just killed one of mine too.I put chicken manure around the plants and didn't realise i'd covered the base of the stem on one of them (tricky to see through the leaves).A Couple of weeks later and it's dead,the stuff burn't the stem. :-[
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Jill on August 10, 2005, 23:13:49
I have round (in spite of spines) and yellow (almost as painful)fairly prolific and still no green bog standards to speak of.  Equal number of plants (2) of each. ???
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: littlegem on August 11, 2005, 22:05:57
vegging out! i think thats what happened to me, i chucked a load of chicken pellets about, not realising the damage it could do.
icyberjunkie, i'm so glad you've got 'black beauty', i thought it was a misprint on my packet, thought only aubergines were called this, and other people i've spoken to thought the same!!!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Icyberjunkie on August 11, 2005, 22:29:52
Nope not a misprint I'm glad to say. although as you'll no they're not black,  not even that dark a green abut definately beauties!  Already got my stock for next year!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: littlegem on August 11, 2005, 22:34:25
they are tasty aren't they, and more of a lined variety, mid green with pale green lines down them, not smooth as you'd normally get, i've already used them to make chunky veg pasta sauces that i've bottled, along with my onions and tomatoes and green beans, shop bought mushrooms and peppers though, failed at mushroom box and peppers are no way ready yet. still got plenty of toms waiting to ripen for more past sauces (dont like raw toms) should keep us going for most of year!!!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Icyberjunkie on August 11, 2005, 22:43:59
Far more accomplished than me!   They are either sauted in garlic and tomato and frozen, blacnhed and frozen or fried off with lemon and ginger.  Pasta sauces and posh stuff is beyond my confidence for veg  preservation.  I'd end up growing a nice mould or something!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: littlegem on August 11, 2005, 22:51:07
first time i've done it icyberjunkie, but i've read up loads about it, and if factories can do it then why not us, just by using their simple techniques and sterilising and putting sauce in hot etc, surely i cant go wrong!!! (fingers crossed) the button is depressed on my jars so dont think i should have any problems!!!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 12, 2005, 08:29:46
I think you can only gain confidence by doing it.  I haven't done much but have just done my first lot of beetroot which is great.  Have dried chillies but they DID go mouldy  :(  I've just found a home freezing book which I'm going to flick through as I want to freeze some of those courgettes I seem to have quite a few of.  Good idea about the courgettey tomato sauce.  I think the sound of that  :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: moonbells on August 17, 2005, 08:25:18
Try cubing the courgettes in 1cm-2cm cubes and freezing those.  I use them like frozen peas... stir fries... chucking in sauces... great if you've both yellow and green!

moonbells
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 17, 2005, 09:53:33
Cubing courgettes!  Is what I shall be mostly doing today, or tomorrow as I think rain is forecast  :)  I cut some into chunks t'other day for veggie kebabs too

I used a big courgette the other day, and Tim is quite right, they don't lose quality just cos they're big.  I thought they might go watery but they don't.  I sliced some off for my courgette omelette and it was fine and I still have loads of it left.  It's still good after a couple of days in the fridge. 

I have a B & B guest at the mo and we've done a deal. He's bought me plums and he's going home with courgettes  ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Mrs Ava on August 17, 2005, 16:03:59
I have about 15 bags of cubed courgettes in the freezer now, and at least 8 pints of courgette and roast garlic soup!  Picked the last I am planning to pick today.  Made 4Ib of Tim's courgette bread to go in the freezer and 4 of DorisPinks courgette cakes to freeze.  I want a couple of whoppers to make some River Cottage chutters, the rest can grow into marrows for winter use. 
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on August 17, 2005, 17:21:05
Two questions EJ...

(1) How many freezers do you own  ;D

and

(2) What are River Cottage Chutters?? - anything to do with Hugh

     fearney thingamybob??

Debs
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: tim on August 17, 2005, 19:14:40
This slot has had almost as many views as we've had courgettes?

Damned things - Ronde just would not get going - & now?? 6-8 a day - cricket ball size.
 And taking over the garden.

Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Mrs Ava on August 17, 2005, 23:22:16
Debs, have 2 freezers, one a huge old chest freezer, and one an upright.  Careful packing and stacking is the way.

River cottage chutters - taken from a posting made by Adamhill100 last august!

1kg Marrow or overgrown courgettes.. Diced
1kg Tomitillos or unripe toms diced and peeled.
500g Sultanas (I used mixed fruit )
500g soft brown sugar
2 x Limes Juice & Zest from one of them
500g Cooking apples peeled and diced ( I used Granny Smiths. )
400ml White wine vinegar
500g Onions chopped 
3 finger chillies chopped finely (This is something I added )
Pinch Salt (Personal pref here)
I also added a couple of shakes of Balsamic vinegar

For the Spice bag (Square of Tea Towel tied with string)

12 Cloves
2 Tea Spoon Black or Mixed Peppercorns.
2 Tea Spoon Coriander seeds
Couple of pieces fresh ginger.
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: redimp on August 17, 2005, 23:25:43
Urgh  :-X - never liked chutney - sorry!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 18, 2005, 00:07:23
Have you ever really tried it?  There are thousands of chutneys out there and there will be lots you;ll like.  You just have to make that leap of faith  ;D I didn't think I liked them but then I didn't really know what they were.

I made a chutney at evening class at my first ever Indian cookery class and we had to make sweet tomato chutney to go with the teacher's Keema.  Since then I have been a convert  ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 18, 2005, 00:10:19
Speakin of courgettes.  Went to pub quiz tonight.  Our team topically enough was called The Zucchini's.  One of the questions was"what is the other name for zucchini" ?   No-one in the pub knew.  Can you believe it  :o :o :o Anyway The Zucchini's came away with a gallon of beer and £15  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: redimp on August 18, 2005, 13:25:47
Have you ever really tried it?  There are thousands of chutneys out there and there will be lots you;ll like.  You just have to make that leap of faith  ;D I didn't think I liked them but then I didn't really know what they were.

I made a chutney at evening class at my first ever Indian cookery class and we had to make sweet tomato chutney to go with the teacher's Keema.  Since then I have been a convert  ;D
OK persuaded - everybody else in my house likes chutney so I will be brave  :).  I generally have the same reaction to quiche as well. It is those two foods that are my nemesis. ???
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 18, 2005, 14:14:37
RC   I don't like cold quiche.  In a hot oven to brown the top til the cheese has gone golden then I adore it  :)

Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on August 18, 2005, 15:55:51
Men and quiche do not mix (not real men anyway)  ;)

Don't ever try to feed it to us, it's JUST NOT RIGHT!!!!!!

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wivvles on August 18, 2005, 16:34:10
Smashing piece of homemade cold quiche for lunch today.   ;D

Sausages, potatoes, sweetcorn, courgettes and runners for tea tonight, followed by rhubarb crumble.  Only the sausages not homegrown.
NB. This menu assumes that the badger that has taken out two lots of sweetcorn already this week didn't manage to get past my defences last night...
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: wardy on August 18, 2005, 17:07:30
Rhubarb crumble here too!  Just got it out of oven.  I'm having mine cold with single cream on  :)

I swopped three courgettes, one lettuce and one red onion for a bag of rhubarb and a box of plums  :)
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: BAGGY on August 18, 2005, 17:48:11
Wardy - I cant do cold quiche either.  It's a texture thing. 'puking smiley'
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: moonbells on August 18, 2005, 20:12:57
Iwish I *didn't* like veggie quiche as I think it's way too moreish. I can eat it hot, cold, microwaved... 

moonbells
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Mrs Ava on August 18, 2005, 22:39:18
You and me both moonbells!  And the same with bubby crumble!
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on August 18, 2005, 22:45:54
..and here too!

Here's to cold quiche and cold crumble.

HIP HIP HOORAY ;D
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: Debs on August 18, 2005, 22:51:13
...and most importantly.

Ihave picked 3 (YES 3) courgettes today.

Not a feast but neither a famine  ;)

Debs
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: the_snail on August 19, 2005, 07:21:39
Just thought I would add a good way to preserve chilli peppers  is to store them in olive oil. The keep for a while and also you have a hot chilli oil at the end you can use in salad dressings or your cooking.

Also my caugettes have gone bang (not literally bang!). I must have got about 20 caugettes and 4 marrows from one harvest as I had not been down for a week or 2.

Well they forcast rain for weekend so it looks like another 20 caugettes are going to be harvested next week  :-\

The_Snail
Title: Re: Courgettes
Post by: moonbells on August 23, 2005, 09:45:43
..and here too!

Here's to cold quiche and cold crumble.

HIP HIP HOORAY ;D

Oh help don't start me on crumble. 
Least this year the Bramley's on its go-slow year so I won't be inundated with them.  The eater (unknown variety) is full of apples so I may just have to use it with the blackberries...

moonbells (goes off thinking about tonight's tea...  ;D ;D )
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