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Title: Self Seeded *EDIT: MORE PICTURES ADDED*
Post by: dibberxxx on June 06, 2005, 20:26:32
The only plant's that usually self seed in my garden is weeds.. :'(...but look what have self seeded in my bog garden...Lupins!! :-*...beautiful!!

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/dibber/Lupin1.jpg)

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Post by: honeybee on June 06, 2005, 21:31:39
Wow Dibber, such a beautiful variety too  :)

Can you check that leaf against your unidentified seeds and see if there is any comparision?
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Post by: Twospot Ladybird on June 06, 2005, 22:18:53
What a lovely picture  :)
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 07, 2005, 07:43:29
HB the leaves may look slighty the same but it defently not lupins just wish i new what it was
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Post by: Marley Farley on June 07, 2005, 08:44:39
 :) Lovely Lupins  :) I love it when plants choose their own home  ??? ;D
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Post by: lorna on June 07, 2005, 12:54:12
They look just great!!!! I got three miserable looking seedlings out of a packet >:( Will try again next year as I do love them although never grown them before. Lorna
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Post by: Marley Farley on June 07, 2005, 14:27:39
 :) Those are definately Lupin leaves between your flowers  :)
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 07, 2005, 17:58:38
thanks MF at least we know what one plant is lol
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Post by: tim on June 07, 2005, 18:39:02
I would just love a bog.
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Post by: Marley Farley on June 07, 2005, 20:08:21
  :) ok so are the big leaves gunnera  ??? & are we talking about the smaller ones centre back?  ??? ;D
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 08, 2005, 11:07:27
no MF its not a gunnera it callled cotesfoot and its a bloody pest its runs and pops up every where tis  all over the garden i spent hours pulling new bits out but i do like it sends up lovely tall spikes in spring with tiny pink flowers on , the leaves can get huge and i do like big leaf plants , the slugs love it and the snails to.  I do have a gennera but in the other bog garden
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Post by: Palustris on June 08, 2005, 12:16:33
Er, sorry to disagree, but coltsfoot has leaves like a dandelion and flowers very early in the year with yellow flowers. The big leaves here if they produce tall pink flowered spikes could be butterbur Petasites hybridus, or perhaps not!
Alpine coltsfoot is a different plant altogether and that has pink flowers, but it is not found wild in GB.
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 08, 2005, 13:46:02
thanks Eric for the info , bought this palnt in a aquatic garden center as a moisture loving plant and the label said cotesfoot spelt this way , they must have labeled it wrong yet a nother unknown plant in my garden , it is very invasive and sends out runners is poping up every where but the spikes in spring are beautifull, i will take some pictures later and lets see if anyone can put a name to it thanks Eric
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 08, 2005, 16:27:09
Here are some more pictures of what I thought were Cotesfoot...they are more detailed, so any ideas what they may be?...Also as you can see the Snails & Slugs have found a good feasting place. :-[

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/dibber/Gunnerer1.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/dibber/Gunnerer2.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/dibber/Gunnerer3.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/dibber/Gunnerer4.jpg)

This is a new shoot of the mystery plant...Any ideas?
Title: Re: Self Seeded *EDIT: MORE PICTURES ADDED*
Post by: Palustris on June 08, 2005, 16:52:17
First of all an apology, I read your Cotesfoot wrongly (blame poor eyesight and exhaustion from kitchen building!)
Now there is a plant called Cotesfoot which is Asarum canadense or Indian Ginger or Canadina Snakeroot.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v172/Berghill/nativeginger_april.jpg)
I think this is different to your plant.
Title: Re: Self Seeded *EDIT: MORE PICTURES ADDED*
Post by: dibberxxx on June 08, 2005, 17:47:46
yes that is different but very pretty the leaves are alike but the leaves on my plant can get huge. no need for a apology i find u a great source of knowledge and very helpfull .

PS dont work to hard on that kitchen your brains are required here more ;) ;)
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Post by: Marianne on June 08, 2005, 20:51:45
What beautiful plants and colours Dibber !  ;D :D
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 08, 2005, 22:03:46
thanku for such kind words Marianne
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Post by: Twospot Ladybird on June 08, 2005, 22:05:00
Hi Dibber, the leaves in those new pictures, look like the leaves of what we call wild rhubarb. And it's commonly found growing along river banks !!
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 08, 2005, 22:10:47
could be TL
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 08, 2005, 23:25:02
Do you get flowers on the colstsfoot whatsit? What size are the leaves? It could be coltsfoot, or it could be butterbur, or there's a sort of giant butterbur thing growing on an abandoned plot on my site which I assume is a cultivated introduction from somewhere. It's so coarse-growing I wouldn't give it house room.
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Post by: Marley Farley on June 09, 2005, 08:25:25
 :) Morning all  :) I have just had a thought about the large leaved plant as you said it had a lovely flower spike check out ligularia the leathery heart shaped leaves grow up to 12" ( leopard plant compositea) there are quite a few  different varieties but L.dentata or L.clivoram may be a start point  ;D
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Post by: Obelixx on June 09, 2005, 08:41:31
I agree with Palustris.  Your big leaves that start off with spikey flowers in spring are petasites.   I was given some by a well-meaning friend who thought I needed something to fill up my new garden's boggy bit.  I planted some straight out and put the rest in a coldframe till I had time to plant it.  Ended up with a major invasion in both places and it took ages to get the hint and go away.
Title: Re: Self Seeded *EDIT: MORE PICTURES ADDED*
Post by: dibberxxx on June 09, 2005, 16:25:00
RB it does get flowers in spring and there are a large spike with small pink flowers.

MF i think u are right it is a member of the ligularia family the leaves are not leathery and they get alot bigger then 12''

obbelix i do agree with u it is a pest and so invassive pops up every where but i kind of like it and try to keep it under control , is all ready out of the bog garden and has ran aleast 9 foot from where i planted the first piece , they should not really sell things  like this without a warning  :o :o :o :o
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 09, 2005, 17:11:50
It sounds like either butterbur or a close relative.
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Post by: Marley Farley on June 10, 2005, 09:00:05
 ;D It does seam to fit the ligularia family but was talking to a friend & they sugested darmera (umbrella plant saxifragaceae)  give it a google & see  ;D
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 10, 2005, 14:12:54
thanks mf but its not umbrella plant have one of them in the other bog garden
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Post by: Marley Farley on June 10, 2005, 14:26:44
 ;D  ;D ok dibber think I will stick with ligularia then!!!!!  ;D ;D C
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Post by: ruud on June 10, 2005, 20:13:52
I know what it is called but only the dutch name,have to google,just a minute
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Post by: ruud on June 10, 2005, 20:17:14
So i am back,i think it is petasites hybrides
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Post by: dibberxxx on June 12, 2005, 11:58:29
thanks rudd  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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