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Title: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: pigeonseed on August 15, 2009, 21:07:59
I saw something new in the garden today!

When I was weeding round the base of a tomato plant, the earth shifted in a way that definitely meant an animal was under there - I brushed aside some soil and had a look and it was a toad!

(http://www.wincott.com/images/tomato_hiding_toad.jpg)

It's still out there now.

That tomato plant suffers from snails climbing up the wall and eating the ripe tomatoes - I never have eaten one yet! And I'm guessing that the toad is helping me out a bit there.

Clever don't you think? Toads must observe the habits of their food, and then plan their hunting strategies.

 
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: saddad on August 15, 2009, 21:50:36
I wish my frogs were such quick learners... I think I have "remedial" ones...  :-X
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: pigeonseed on August 15, 2009, 22:25:14
oh dear!

Well toads are very common while frogs are becoming rarer - maybe frogs should take note of their bumpy cousins
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: thifasmom on August 16, 2009, 00:45:47
toads are more common? i have never seen one, only got frogs around here :( but i'll take what i can get :)
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: 1066 on August 16, 2009, 10:16:51
Toads are great aren't they! We have several in our garden and I love watching them, if you sit outside after some rain in the early evening you can watch them crossing the garden, it gets quite busy out there at times.

A couple of years ago I had a similar surprise and found one had half buried itself in a pot with a geranium.

Saw a frog yesterday on my plot - the 1st I've seen up there so very pleased to know they have found my plot  :)
1066
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: pigeonseed on August 16, 2009, 22:40:36
Yes they waddle about all over the place. A large one with sort of leopard skin markings sits near our back door every night now - I presume catching some insects or slugs.

But the toad in the hole hasn't returned to his hole - I hope I didn't spoil it for him/her!

I've never been lucky enough to have toads or frogs before, and I really like them.
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: 1066 on August 18, 2009, 06:58:09
Yes they waddle about all over the place. A large one with sort of leopard skin markings sits near our back door every night now - I presume catching some insects or slugs.

The larger ones are (usually) the females, when you see a smaller one with darker colouring they will be the males. We're planning a small pond in our garden so they can spawn  :)


But the toad in the hole hasn't returned to his hole

 ;D  ;D  ;D

1066
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: pigeonseed on August 26, 2009, 22:35:03
That's nice to know, I didn't know how to tell male and female ones apart.

Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: angle shades on August 29, 2009, 19:52:00
 :) I love toads, have loads on my lottie of all different ages and sizes,they refuse to use the log piles and shady safe places I have made for them,

they prefer to go in my greenhouses which bake during the day and live in my tomato and melon grow bags, I also have newts in my tomato pots which are quite high... can they climb? / shades x
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: thifasmom on August 29, 2009, 21:29:40
:) I love toads, have loads on my lottie of all different ages and sizes,they refuse to use the log piles and shady safe places I have made for them,

they prefer to go in my greenhouses which bake during the day and live in my tomato and melon grow bags, I also have newts in my tomato pots which are quite high... can they climb? / shades x

wow! you are lucky.
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: GrannieAnnie on August 30, 2009, 19:36:30
Yesterday I found one in my walk-in coldframe, nice and fat and must have been finding enough bugs somehow to stay alive. There is no water in there which concerns me so I tried to catch him to carry him out but no luck.
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: angle shades on August 31, 2009, 16:48:54
 :) they only need water to breed  in GrannieAnnie it must like it in your coldframe / shades x
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: 1066 on September 01, 2009, 07:36:21
Angle Shades - I love the story about the newt! I only tend to see them when I uncover or move something around on the plot.
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: angle shades on September 02, 2009, 22:13:39
1066  :) my newt is still in my tomato pot, she comes out and looks at me when I pick the toms, she's in the Gardeners Delight pot,every time I pick a tomato I'm scared others will fall and squish her ::)/ shades x
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: 1066 on September 03, 2009, 07:01:51
aawwww  :D
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: Digeroo on September 03, 2009, 07:17:53
I have lots of toadlets on site, thought they might be frogs but they are getting more toadlike by the day. 

But I have never seen a newt out of water.  That is great.  Can you put some kind of cover across the top of the pot to stop the tomatoes falling on the newt.

Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: angle shades on September 09, 2009, 23:04:30
 :) Nancy the Newt was missing today ;but doesn't appear to have been squished by a Gardeners Delight ;D/ shades x
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: pigeonseed on September 10, 2009, 09:28:04
I don't know what Nancy's up to.

Yesterday I found a small toad (maybe the ex-tomato one) in the compost heap, buried under compost and another large speckled one strolling around under the squash plants (just stretching its legs)

I wonder how many there are, and I think it's a shame that, if I keep on taming the garden, there'll be less space for them. (there's loads of dense bindweed and dock plants)

I think it will have to be done gradually, so until the garden plants get large, I'll keep some large weeds.
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: 1066 on September 10, 2009, 11:27:01
here's wishing Nancy all the best in her new life and location  :D

PigeonSeed - the toads in our garden seem to find all sorts of dark/damp corners to hide in, never quite sure where exactly they overwinter. But then our garden is certainly not pristine!!
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 10, 2009, 18:11:20
I sometimes find them hiding under the mulch. Toads don't seem to mind bare soil as long as they've got a hiding place. Frogs don't like being away from thick vegetation.
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: angle shades on October 06, 2009, 21:43:18
 :) Nancy has been missing for almost a month now ,

I 'm now growing mushrooms in the greenhouse, and guess what,full of toads ;D/ shades x
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: oliveoyl_25 on October 07, 2009, 00:02:46
I picked a toad up a couple of weeks ago to move it from where I wanted to dig and it squirted me lol.
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: 1066 on October 07, 2009, 08:08:52
I picked a toad up a couple of weeks ago to move it from where I wanted to dig and it squirted me lol.

Blimey I never knew that !
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: oliveoyl_25 on October 07, 2009, 08:25:42
Neither did I until then.... made me jump a bit!   
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: theothermarg on October 10, 2009, 21:58:38
I'v got frogs in the garden and toads on the allotment ! I saw a toad the other day when i was hoeing ,thought it was a lump of earth and very nearly brought the hoe down on it to break it up :o saw it just in time, shall have to be carefull in the future
marg
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: 1066 on October 11, 2009, 09:13:52
blimey that was a near miss!

I think they have been enjoying the recent rain as I've seen them pottering about in it  :D
Title: Re: A new strategy for toads!
Post by: angle shades on October 11, 2009, 22:35:09
 :) went to my brothers yesterday and he has frogs in his garden, I took some photos but I  can't warm to frogs like I can toads.. I just want to pick toads up and snuggle them because they are soooooooooo cute ( and I do ;D) and they pose for photos ::) ;D / shades x
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