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Title: looking after fork/spade
Post by: aquilegia on January 05, 2006, 12:46:00
Grandad's trusty allotment fork is going a bit rusty.

What should I do?

Should I oil it? If so - what oil? Will that get rid of the rust?

(This fork is very special to me as I do rather seem to think that my late grandad now inhabits it!)
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: Bagpuss74 on January 05, 2006, 12:54:52
Bucket of sand with oil in works a treat for me Aqui - stab it in a few times to oil and de-rust.  Just don't bin the sand every time if you care for the environment  ;)
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: aquilegia on January 05, 2006, 13:18:44
what type of oil? (I know nothing!)
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: jennym on January 05, 2006, 13:35:44
I use mutton fat.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: Derekthefox on January 05, 2006, 14:36:36
Once rust has started to penetrate steel it is almost imossible to eliminate, as it penetrates through the crystal structure of the material ... however by soaking in a suitable oil, then the progress can be halted. Mutton fat is very good as a preventative measure, but will not halt penetration once it has started.
The type of oil, animal, vegetable or mineral is not really important, it is the grade that counts. The best is using the lightest possible oil, eg WD40 or diesel (or paraffin), then adding a heavier oil afterwards.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: supersprout on January 07, 2006, 11:12:18
erm, Jenny, where do you get your mutton fat? :o
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: jennym on January 07, 2006, 11:45:40
erm, Jenny, where do you get your mutton fat? :o
Drain it off when I'm cooking and keep it. Also use it for waterproofing my boots, like dubbin.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: supersprout on January 07, 2006, 14:04:38
D'oh, all right jenny, where do you get your MUTTON?  ;D
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: Merry Tiller on January 07, 2006, 14:44:14
Used engine oil is very nasty stuff, it contains all sorts of carcinogens from the burned hydrocarbons. If you're going to do the oil & sand in a bucket trick use fresh oil, you wouldn't need much (where do you get a bucket big enough to shove a spade into though????).

It's quite easy to stop the rust using a product such as this

http://ec-uk.net/catalog1.asp?ShopRef=168&CatID=151

there are others, I just happen to use this one when doing restoration jobs, it doesn't remove the rust but converts it into a much more stable surface.

Alternatively the best way to keep your tools rust free is to use them more often ;)
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: adam04 on January 08, 2006, 11:23:36
(where do you get a bucket big enough to shove a spade into though????).

You could get one of the buckets that come with brewing kits. there a couple of feet tall and plenty wide enough.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: aquilegia on January 09, 2006, 13:59:11
I ended up using vegetable oil, as I'm a vegetarian and I didn't want to use anything that might polute the soil.

My builders bucket wasn't deep enough for my fork and spade. I just picked up handfuls and rubbed it on the bits above the sand line.

I hope it works anyway!
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: supagranz on January 09, 2006, 14:39:08
tell me what does bucket sand and oil do i'm puzzled
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: supersprout on January 09, 2006, 15:27:39
The sand acts as a scrubber to get dirt off if you wiggle your implement up and down in it, and the oil protecteth from rust  ::)
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: adam04 on January 09, 2006, 17:14:34
always worth protecting your implement... ;D ;D
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: grawrc on January 09, 2006, 17:27:16
I just clean off any muck and then rub with an oily rag. I do it fairly regularly so never seem to get the rust problem. At the end of the season I do it a bit more thoroughly.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: grawrc on January 09, 2006, 17:28:43
We can get mutton (organic no less!  :P) from a local farm. Normally we prefer their lamb though.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: adam04 on January 09, 2006, 18:29:18
i dont seem to get many rust problems. now and again round the little crevice type bit where its joined to the shaft.

i dont really clean is very often just scrape two spades together to get the main bulk of the dirst off.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: Melbourne12 on January 09, 2006, 19:42:29
I use water and a nylon scourer to clean the tools, leave them to drain dry, then a quick spray of WD40.  Admittedly it's a bit cold and messy, but I can't imagine that oily sand would work on a really muddy fork or spade.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: grawrc on January 09, 2006, 20:47:12
My newer ones are, but I tend to use the old tools at the lottie (grandfather's fork circa 1907) etc. cos they've already worked their value 100 times and if someone breaks in and steals them I don't feel it's a major loss. Having said that, the stainless steel ones need TLC too or they end up getting pitted and damaged.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 09, 2006, 23:59:15
I have a steel spade and an old Victorian iron thing. The latter is far harder to use.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: supagranz on January 10, 2006, 07:29:34
Thank you for the info.... now can anyone tell me how to sharpen an old rusty drawing hoe..will the sand and oil work its magic on my hoe?
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: Derekthefox on January 10, 2006, 09:14:42
I have a stainless steel spade, but find my fork never gets a chance to get rusty ...
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: grawrc on January 10, 2006, 13:04:45
My father-in law sharpens the tools for me with a grinding stone.
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: Melbourne12 on January 10, 2006, 20:33:03
Thank you for the info.... now can anyone tell me how to sharpen an old rusty drawing hoe..will the sand and oil work its magic on my hoe?

I recommend something like this - make sure you get a fairly coarse grit for garden tools:
http://shop.btcv.org.uk/shop/level3/17/stock/240
Title: Re: looking after fork/spade
Post by: supagranz on January 12, 2006, 13:34:10
What can i say but a BIG Thank you
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