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Title: Raspberries
Post by: PaulaB on October 25, 2009, 21:14:18
I want to grow raspberries in my allotment but am not too sure how many plants would be advisable, its for 2 people.  Can someone suggest a respectable number to feed two women who love raspberries?
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Patrick King on October 25, 2009, 21:50:55
20 plants then freeze what you don't use straight away so you have some over winter  ;D

Frozen perfect for smoothies and you can defrost for pies etc.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Geoff H on October 25, 2009, 22:34:34
How about 10 summer raspberries and 10 autumn? Raspberries freeze well but you can't beat the taste of fresh raspberry. There may only be 2 of you but do you plan to make jam? My wife freezes raspberries and puts them in jellies and fruit salads throughout the year so the two of us can get through a lot. We have using PYO up to now but I am now renting some land so am wondering how many I can fit in. I am wondering whether to get 20 summer and 10 autumn raspberries.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: kt. on October 25, 2009, 23:17:45
Raspberry variety "Joan" produce fruit from Jul-Oct so you would only need one variety if space is a premium.  This is what I have researched this past week as I am renewing all my raspberry canes for next year.  I will also be getting an early summer variety too.  Well they are delicious....... ;)
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: saddad on October 25, 2009, 23:22:19
20 canes should be more than enough Paula.. 10 summer and ten Autumn... but I would just do Autumn if you can wait.
Welcome to A4A.  :)
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Flighty on October 26, 2009, 07:49:46
PaulaB hello and a warm welcome to A4A!
As many as you have space for as you can never have too many raspberries! Well I would say that as, like you, I love them!  :)
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: non-stick on October 26, 2009, 12:38:44
I love em too but we've been picking constantly since July and they are still coming, over 80lbs to date.

Mind you we are very popular with the neighbours as a result :-)
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: manicscousers on October 26, 2009, 16:37:24
Hiya, paula, welcome to a4a  ;D
we have 8 so far, plus I've just ordered another 3, we seem to get lots   ;D
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Digeroo on October 26, 2009, 16:39:05
Can people recommend a good supplier.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: grannyjanny on October 26, 2009, 18:10:38
What sort are you after Digger?
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: manicscousers on October 26, 2009, 18:14:22
we got ours 'free from d.t.brown, paid 4.21 p&p. called tulameen
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Patrick King on October 26, 2009, 18:19:40
wow good price
http://www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk/catalogue/product/61047/
£12.95 per 12 canes

might get myself some.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: PaulaB on October 26, 2009, 21:44:31
I am going for 21 9 earlies 9 later ones and 3  golden, though as they are sold in 6's 3 will have to go into the garden.  This is my first time with an allotment I got it at the end of april but managed to grow some marrows, carrots, onions mange tout french and runner beans.  Its fun I have half an allotment but am trying to increase to a full lot!
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: manicscousers on October 27, 2009, 15:38:56
Hiya, paulab, welcome to a4a  ;D
we're putting some more in our garden  :)
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: lewic on October 27, 2009, 16:27:40
Hi Paula
If you can get to Bristol then you are welcome to my Autumn Bliss. I am getting rid of them as I need the space for a polytunnel.
PM me if you are interested - or anyone else who is reading this!
Cath
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: davholla on October 28, 2009, 12:38:03
PaulaB hello and a warm welcome to A4A!
As many as you have space for as you can never have too many raspberries! Well I would say that as, like you, I love them!  :)
I agree.  However I would suggest that you have more autumn than summer as they produce less per week but for more weeks. I still get a punnet a week and last year got my last ones on the 21st of Dec.

How about 5 each of two summer varieties.  And 20 + of autumn ones Joan J and Autumn Bliss.  However if you have freezer space get more (and too be honset you can probably always lots of raspberries).
If you have space also get some yellow raspberries but only if you have space as they do not produce that many fruits.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: PurpleHeather on October 29, 2009, 09:53:06
They quickly produce more plants and we always end up with people giving away extras on the allotments.

New shoots travel north ( this is true of many plants and bulbs) so when you plant them watch that you are not giving away new shoots to your neighbours by planting them south with space to expand. (hope that makes sense)
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 29, 2009, 12:43:36
They quickly produce more plants and we always end up with people giving away extras on the allotments.

New shoots travel north ( this is true of many plants and bulbs) so when you plant them watch that you are not giving away new shoots to your neighbours by planting them south with space to expand. (hope that makes sense)
Is that true?  Never heard that and must check mine.  I've just been expanding my rasp. bed, got rid of a yellow (Autumn Gold) earlier because it never got sweet, and now transplanting and giving away lots of runners of Heritage which has been delicious. I'd take out more lawn if hubby could part with it just to grow more Heritage which bear into the Fall, still picking some.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Digeroo on October 29, 2009, 13:20:14
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New shoots travel north

Is this really true?  I have planted some on the west side of a fence and I do not want them to go under the fence because my neighbour has a path there.  So I was expecting to have to keep digging them up.  Sounds like there will not be a problem.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Al Lotment on October 31, 2009, 22:03:59
I have to admit to a preference for autumn fruiting I have just picked my last raspberries (Autumn Bliss) today... they started in early August and have picked every 2-4 days ... amazing.
I have also just ordered another 12 Joan J's to replace my summer fruiting canes, I am tired of fighting the birds for them in early summer. I have not had to net my autumn fruiting canes, I assume there is so much other food around for the birds. that they ignore the raspberries.
Lost count of the volume or raspberries we picked .... but as folks said they freeze well and can be used all year round.

Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: grawrc on October 31, 2009, 22:51:31
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New shoots travel north

Is this really true?  I have planted some on the west side of a fence and I do not want them to go under the fence because my neighbour has a path there.  So I was expecting to have to keep digging them up.  Sounds like there will not be a problem.
Mine are planted along my Eastern boundary and spread both east to my neighbour and west into my plot. THey don't seem to spread either north or south (Autumn Bliss).
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: manicscousers on November 02, 2009, 19:11:17
we've no alternative about where they go so we'll just have to dig the spares out  ;D
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Macy on November 06, 2009, 11:27:34
Bar the debated spreading northwards, does it make a difference the orientation of the row for raspberries (fruit in general)? Would the ideal be North - South, or East - West? I've room for either way (at the moment at least).

I was going to start with just Autumn fruiting ones - is there much difference between Autumn Bliss and Joan J (which seem to be the two common options?). I've found a more local supplier for Autumn Bliss, so my inclination would be towards that initially.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: tonybloke on November 06, 2009, 16:32:08
fruit rows are best if running N / S, this way they get the warmth of the sun in morning and afternoon, but not too much at hieght of day.
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: plot51A on November 06, 2009, 16:51:33
Macy - I'm a Joan J fan myself. I think they are supposed to be more prolific than Autumn Bliss. I have new Joan J canes planted this spring - they seem very well established and have been fruiting since July. Ate a few today at the plot  ;D
My supplier was Marshalls (not cheap, but good.)
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: Macy on November 06, 2009, 20:56:58
Thanks guys, North to South it is, and more indecision on variety. Might just go for both  :)
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: artichoke on November 07, 2009, 17:47:35
Looking them up, I read that Joan J are an improved Autumn Bliss. I have 2 thick rows of Autumn Bliss that I have been very pleased with until noticing a plot with THE MOST GIGANTIC raspberries about 10 days ago. I stole 2 to taste....saw a label saying Joan J. I want them!


Another neighbour has Glen Ample, again bigger than mine - although they are a summer variety, she gave me some wonderful berries early in October, huge and delicious.


I also have Fall Gold which are yellow, big, and very good. I am afraid my Autumn Bliss are doomed.



Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: anemone on November 08, 2009, 18:53:47
I'd come to a similar conclusion and was about to buy 12 glen ample and 6 Joan J (already have a row of Autumn Bliss). However I've just seen this collection that promises raspberries from june - oct http://www.unwins.co.uk/raspberry-cane-collection-pid1343.html (http://www.unwins.co.uk/raspberry-cane-collection-pid1343.html)

Does anyone love Glen Moy? should i just stick to Glen ample??
Title: Re: Raspberries
Post by: tombrew on November 15, 2009, 11:51:33
Polka are very good autumn raspberries -- better taste than my autumn bliss
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