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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Jayb on February 11, 2013, 16:16:56
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Any one up for joining another Seed Circle? :blob7:
If this is all new to you here's a brief guide; add your name to the thread and when you know what you will be growing and saving for the circle. The Seed Circle is open to all A4A members new and ‘long termers’. Each member of the group chooses 2 or more heritage or open pollinated vegetables of their choice to grow for seed for the group (if possible varieties new to the circle, and not bog standard ones). You then grow and harvest enough seeds for all the members of the group. Remember some vegetables are easier than others to grow for seed, Real Seeds gives some great information, http://www.realseeds.co.uk/seedsavinginfo.html
Updates from everyone are great on the thread to keep a track of who’s growing what and how the season is going. Once your seeds are ripe you can harvest them and dry well, they can then be divided into individual portions and packaged ready to be sent to me at the end of the season. As the seeds come in here they are added to everyone's individual collections before being sent out to members in their Seed Circle parcel. Enjoy!
If you want to see how we got on the last year take a look here
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,70816.0.html
and
https://sites.google.com/site/seedsharingcircle/
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This is the bestest Circle so I can't really resist. :wave:
We will be growing all sorts of strange and beautiful things on the new community garden so should have loads to share later in the year. All being well. *Shakes fist at sky.
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Definitely, though I've no idea what I'll be saving. I haven't got as far as deciding what to plant, and it all depends on what actually produces seed. I was scraping about last year - I suspect others did the same - and I wouldn't dare try to predict!
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This is the bestest Circle so I can't really resist. :wave:
We will be growing all sorts of strange and beautiful things on the new community garden so should have loads to share later in the year. All being well. *Shakes fist at sky.
Strange and beautiful things sounds intriguing, can't wait to read all about them (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/cool.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
'Tis seriously sodden here and has been probably for the last 6 months :sad1:
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Any one up for joining another Seed Circle?
MEEEEEEEEE!...please :angel11:
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I haven't got as far as deciding what to plant, and it all depends on what actually produces seed. I was scraping about last year - I suspect others did the same - and I wouldn't dare try to predict!
Your post got me thinking and looking through seed packets. I was wondering amongst other things about Yu Choy Sum - Red Stem as a possibility? Anyone grown it?
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Any one up for joining another Seed Circle?
MEEEEEEEEE!...please :angel11:
Lol :blob7: :wave:
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Yes please :wave:
Initial plans for the circle: Lettuce Mescher (thankyou GL) have sprouted. This is the first batch and will go in the greenhouse, a second batch for outdoor seed production will be sown later.
Just a little bit exotic, but actually very easy to grow, I am planning Melothria scabra, aka mouse melon or Mexican Sour gherkin. They are not really 'sour' but a refreshing 'one-bite' cucumber-ish snack. They pickle well, go in any salad and look exactly like miniature watermelons of the long type.
I got a few really different French Climbing beans from Austria and USA - hope one or two 'transplant' well to our climate. Need to produce fresh seeds for herb 'Salad Burnet', if that produces sufficient it could go into the circle - nice faintly cucumber tasting herb that is delish in sandwiches, especially the new shoots.
All vague plans at the moment and will need to see what works out in the end. Also intend doing a HSL variety of carrots, but these will produce seeds next year all being well. Same with a turnip variety that needs to be grown out to seed again - very long-term plans.
Thank you for organising another one Jayb. :icon_cheers:
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If there is room ! I think I need to make up for last year.
There is a Seed Swap at The Courtyard Theatre Hereford this Saturday 10.00 -2.00 pm including heritage seeds also a talk by Hannah Wilks ,head gardener at Hampton Court the one in Hereford on seed saving .
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Jayb sent me some white maize seeds to grow for circle...so that is one crop that I know 'I do'...fingers crossed for the good results.
Another 'maybe' is hangdown broad bean. I got these from Finland..I don't know much about them and been doing some reseach and although there is variety call Hangdown green, it is not same. Nordic seed bank does list one broadbean variety called Hangdown..but they don't know neither the origin of the cultivar. BUT..never mind the history...I'm not that keen broadbean eater, but this variety did impress me last summer with taste.. :icon_cheers: Again....fingers crossed for good year. I'm about to to sow the broadbeans in a next couple of weeks time :icon_cheers:
As for anything else....well...time will tell what goodies I come up with and how they grow. I've got some suppliers to come from Sweden too, perharps there is something for circle too.. :icon_cheers:
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I would like to participate too. I don't have really rare seeds to sow but have enough moderately unusual ones that might be welcome to some people. I had hoped to take part last year but calculated that I'd need about 60 spare seeds for a package and though I had spare seeds for my own purposes, I didn't have that amount. This year I can grow deliberately for sharing.
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Yes count me in,havenot a clue what to save for the circle,but i have still time to think about it
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I'm in anticipation, your list is sounding great already Galina :glasses9:
Markfield, plenty of room to join :toothy10: Hereford seed swap sounds just the thing, are you going?
Welcome aboard Toshofthe Wuffingas, so nice to have new to the group members. Any questions ask away (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/bye.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Hey Ruud, welcome, I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering what to grow :happy7:
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Jayb sent me some white maize seeds to grow for circle...so that is one crop that I know 'I do'...fingers crossed for the good results.
Another 'maybe' is hangdown broad bean. I got these from Finland..I don't know much about them and been doing some reseach and although there is variety call Hangdown green, it is not same. Nordic seed bank does list one broadbean variety called Hangdown..but they don't know neither the origin of the cultivar. BUT..never mind the history...I'm not that keen broadbean eater, but this variety did impress me last summer with taste.. :icon_cheers: Again....fingers crossed for good year. I'm about to to sow the broadbeans in a next couple of weeks time :icon_cheers:
As for anything else....well...time will tell what goodies I come up with and how they grow. I've got some suppliers to come from Sweden too, perharps there is something for circle too.. :icon_cheers:
Those were some of the lovely seeds from Jeannine, thank you for taking them on and yes fingers crossed.
Love broad beans, one of my fave's. I like the sound of your hangdown beans, look forward to hearing more. I'm trying some Aztec Yellow broad beans this year, I'm not sure how productive they will be though!
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Gosh I hope so, although I have absolutely no ideas at the moment.
I'll be trying to find something worthy of a swap though....
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author=Nigel B link=topic=74928.msg764624#msg764624 date=1360704861]
Gosh I hope so, although I have absolutely no ideas at the moment.
I'll be trying to find something worthy of a swap though....
Any seed is worth of swap. It is all about growing, saving and sharing. What ever variety you think is good to eat and/or produce well is what counts. Of course we all love to try something unusual or with some interesting history behind it, but we all grow many 'basics' too.
You've got plenty of time to decide what to grow.. and plenty of time to change you mind what to send for the circle. Perharps starting your planning with type of crop that you are already comfortable of growing and another which may push your comfort zone (little learning curve there).
Ohhh...its going to be good fun again.. :icon_cheers:
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Cheers Goodlife. You are good folks. :-)
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Hi I would like to join if you will have me. However I had a bit of a disaster with several climbing beans last year and lost some of my breeding stock.
I had some great leeks which were the only ones on our entire site to survive the ravages of all the bugs but the seed turned out not to be viable.
Anyway hoping for a better year. I do have some seeds from a giant butternut squash. It will be interested to see if it grows ok in our clime.
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Nigel :wave: I think Goodlife has it spot on!
Hi Digeroo, welcome aboard. What a shame about your leeks (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/sad.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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Yes I am going to the seed swap, there is usually a selection from HSL so I hope to find something interesting for the circle , I will report back.
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Nigel :wave: I think Goodlife has it spot on!
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(.............You too JayB ;-))
Figs!
I have a fig tree I planted here years ago.
It figs and figs and figs!
I know they have seeds in them, I've eaten enough.
Does anyone know if the seeds will be viable if I let them ripen fully..? Oh I hope so..... That would be cool...
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I had major disasters last year as well, but never mind. I'll get seed off something.
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Hello everyone. I'm back after 4 weeks levada walking and soaking sunshine in Madeira to find a surprise pack from Jayb and the circle. Thankyou everyone who has contributed such wonderful goodies, I was quite overcome [sniff, sniff]. You are so kind.
I do save seed for my own use but am always a bit nervous that my squashes and stuff will have interbred so haven't been courageous enough to send seed out. This year I shall plant with a bit of tight control and at least I know some things are pretty safe to send like peas and beans. When I've tackled the mail, the bills and the washing, the propagators out and I shall set too. I've still got to thresh my 2 big leek heads [ Bleu de solaise] so if anyone would like some pm me.
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Does anyone know if the seeds will be viable if I let them ripen fully..? Oh I hope so..... That would be cool...
I don't know much about figs, I've only ever propagated them by cuttings. I did have a quick search http://www.ehow.com/way_5452523_growing-fig-trees-seed.html
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Welcome back, four weeks of sunshine sounds just the ticket, lets hope the sunshine follows you home :sunny:
Onwards and upwards I'm hoping for a better year too.
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I’m going to try out Ethiopian Kale this year and depending on how it does and tastes, this may be a candidate for the circle Here’s some info http://goo.gl/uvzlq
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Hello all,
After an awful 2012, I'd like to try again this year, if you'll have me, that is!
This year I'll be trying out some short season Russian tomato varieties and, I hope, some peas and beans.
It feels as though spring is just around the corner! :happy7:
Sue
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Please count me in this year. Celeriac are in the plan, probably Biskopens Graart pea, and who knows what else.
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Green lily, SueK and Ian, Hi guys :wave:
Brilliant, 13 in the group and still room for a few more :happy7: New to the group members are very welcome, just jump in (returnees too!)
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Well after last year if you stil want me, however this time if I do not get a decent crop to send in I will :BangHead:
Not forgotten that you still ahve not had the Sharks fin seeds!
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Please count me in this year. Celeriac are in the plan, probably Biskopens Graart pea, and who knows what else.
Biskopens Graaert would be fab - rare red seeded pea. How do you overwinter the celeriac? I will have the problem next year as I am planning carrots. Turnips are usually ok with cloche and fleece on top, but carrots need a bit more protection here. Have lost too many last time I tried and need to research overwintering methods. Any hints?
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Green lily, SueK and Ian, Hi guys :wave:
Brilliant, 13 in the group and still room for a few more :happy7: New to the group members are very welcome, just jump in (returnees too!)
Lovely, lets hope for a really good growing year. :wave:
PL are the seeds turning black yet? Have you opened another fruit? I have just opened a seedless fruit of a handpollinated courgette - stored fine regardless! - fingers crossed for the other one that I haven't touched yet. This hasn't been a good year for squashes as RB said.
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I’m going to try out Ethiopian Kale this year and depending on how it does and tastes, this may be a candidate for the circle Here’s some info http://goo.gl/uvzlq
Never seen anything like it :happy7: Hope it does well. Thanks for the info.
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Figs!
I have a fig tree I planted here years ago.
It figs and figs and figs!
I know they have seeds in them, I've eaten enough.
Does anyone know if the seeds will be viable if I let them ripen fully..? Oh I hope so..... That would be cool...
Nigel, I found this - can't say I understand a lot about what they are saying , but anyway - here is the url:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Growing-figs-from-seeds-2471900
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I’m going to try out Ethiopian Kale this year and depending on how it does and tastes, this may be a candidate for the circle Here’s some info http://goo.gl/uvzlq
Never seen anything like it :happy7: Hope it does well. Thanks for the info.
Me too :toothy10:
I've just started looking around the above/PROTA site, so many things I've not heard of!
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... How do you overwinter the celeriac? I will have the problem next year as I am planning carrots. Turnips are usually ok with cloche and fleece on top, but carrots need a bit more protection here. Have lost too many last time I tried and need to research overwintering methods. Any hints?
Celeriac has overwintered fine for me just left in the ground, but some folk lift them and store them indoors in spent compost. Lifting has the advantage of giving a good chance to inspect and select the best roots. I'm going to pick 6 or 7 roots, and transplant them to a new bed with posts to support the seed heads. This is exactly as I have done before with parsnips.
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Hi. :wave: I'm new on here - seems like a really friendly bunch of people. I'd like to join the 'magic circle' if you'll have me! I plan to grow Lemon Drop chillis, which I have ordered from Real Seeds. Has anyone tried them?
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Hi Paulie :wave:
I've not opened a Sharks fin fruit as still eating what we already had in the freezer ( we chopped up a few when trying to get seeds earlier befor I realised they had to be ripened!)
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Yes I would like to join the circle again please!!
Not sure what I shall do this time round, but was thinking about shallots
Have googled & would like to grow some eschalot grise.
A khaki coloured shallot originating in Kazakhstan, and rarely seen in Britain. This gourmet Shallot ‘Eschalote Grise’ is prized in French cuisine for its intense and concentrated flavour. Pack size: Approx. 500g. Approx. 20 sets. Height 35cm (14”). Spread: 15cm (6”).
Although it originates in Kazakhstan I don't know whether it is heirloom or heritage (or not )
Does anyone know ??
Debs
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Welcome Paulie and welcome back Deb
bought some echalote gris from the Vegetable society at Hampshire potato day. First year they were soso, but last year they excelled (used to our climate and soil better in second year). Wouldn't call them khaki as such but a bit darker than others. So yes, nice addition and they keep for a very long time, so should still be in very good condition when it is seed envelope time.
Pepper is new to me.
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oops!! :tongue3: well spotted Galina
Grise not gris (pepper)
Note to self . . .
Must brush up on my French :toothy10:
Debs
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Sorry Debs, my mistake. Haven't researched how it is spelled until now. The French spelling seems to be 'Echalotte Grise' aka grey shallot.
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Hi Paulie, good to have you join the group.
As you are new to the A4A you may want to introduce yourself to everyone, this is quite a handy thread to say hi http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,58536.740.html
Or just jump in and post away :wave: Look forward to getting to know you and reading about your chillies. I grew them a couple of years ago, very pretty plants and a good crop of chillies, they were quite hot though! Can't go wrong with seeds from Real Seeds
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Welcome back Debs :wave: Those shallots sound gorgeous, not sure what the postage might be for you though?
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Where we are at, 16 in the group at the moment, please holler if I've left anyone out;
Aj, growing all sorts
Robert B
Goodlife, Cherokee White Corn, hangdown broad bean
Galina; Lettuce Mescher, Melothria scabra, aka mouse melon or Mexican Sour gherkin, Climbing beans from Austria and USA, herb 'Salad Burnet'.
Markfield rover
jayb, Yu Choy Sum - Red Stem, Ethiopian Kale
Toshofthe Wuffingas
Ruud
Nigel B, figs
Digeroo
Green lily
SueK, short season Russian tomato varieties, some peas and beans
Ian Pearson, Celeriac are in the plan, probably Biskopens Graart peas.
Pumpkinlover, Sharks fin seeds
Paulie, Lemon Drop chilli
Debs, Eschalot Grise
Just ideas and maybe's of what we are growing.
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Oh....list is coming on nicely :icon_cheers:
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Having trouble locating shallot sets - might have missed the boat for these but will keep on trying
May have to have a rethink . . .
Debs
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After having to drop out last year after a number of disasters, I've been hesitant to join, but just can't resist, so can I be on the list too please? I have a new plot on a new site, so all looks good :sunny:
In the hope that this year will be a good one for squash, I will be growing a few different varieties, also lots of yellow courgettes (yes, they are my favourites) so will try to hand pollinate a couple of the fruit. Failing that, I will fall back on my tomatoes, or possibly peas...but for now, lets say it will be squash of some sort :toothy10:
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I am thinking tomatoes I have quite a few from the HSL so I will give them all ago,and hopefully be able to contribute a better number this year.Will post names later.
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Keep going Elsie, you weren't the only one to have disasters last year!
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Thanks Robert, unfortunately my troubles last year were caused by humans (in particular one very unplesant neighbour and a badly run site) as well as the weather :( but it's a new year, and as the seed sowing has begun and I have started work on my new plot, I am in very good spirits and looking forward to the year ahead x
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After having to drop out last year after a number of disasters, I've been hesitant to join, but just can't resist, so can I be on the list too please? I have a new plot on a new site, so all looks good :sunny:
In the hope that this year will be a good one for squash, I will be growing a few different varieties, also lots of yellow courgettes (yes, they are my favourites) so will try to hand pollinate a couple of the fruit. Failing that, I will fall back on my tomatoes, or possibly peas...but for now, lets say it will be squash of some sort :toothy10:
Yes love to have you join in Elsie. Sorry you had such a bad year with everything going on. Squash, peas, or tomatoes all sounds good to me :toothy10:
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I am thinking tomatoes I have quite a few from the HSL so I will give them all ago,and hopefully be able to contribute a better number this year.Will post names later.
Yummmm :sunny:
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I also have fingers crossed that I may be getting some Turkish runners.
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After having to drop out last year after a number of disasters, I've been hesitant to join, but just can't resist, so can I be on the list too please? I have a new plot on a new site, so all looks good :sunny:
In the hope that this year will be a good one for squash, I will be growing a few different varieties, also lots of yellow courgettes (yes, they are my favourites) so will try to hand pollinate a couple of the fruit. Failing that, I will fall back on my tomatoes, or possibly peas...but for now, lets say it will be squash of some sort :toothy10:
Yes love to have you join in Elsie. Sorry you had such a bad year with everything going on. Squash, peas, or tomatoes all sounds good to me :toothy10:
Thankyou :happy7:
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I also have fingers crossed that I may be getting some Turkish runners.
As in runner beans?
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A small update
Aj, growing all sorts
Robert B
Goodlife, Cherokee White Corn, hangdown broad bean
Galina; Lettuce Mescher, Melothria scabra, aka mouse melon or Mexican Sour gherkin, Climbing beans from Austria and USA, herb 'Salad Burnet'.
Markfield rover, HSL tomato varieties
jayb, Yu Choy Sum - Red Stem, Ethiopian Kale
Toshofthe Wuffingas
Ruud
Nigel B, figs
Digeroo
Green lily
SueK, short season Russian tomato varieties, some peas and beans
Ian Pearson, Celeriac are in the plan, probably Biskopens Graart peas.
Pumpkinlover, Sharks fin seeds
Paulie, Lemon Drop chilli
Debs, Eschalot Grise
Elsie, Squash, Yellow courgette, back up plan tomatoes and peas
Looks to be room for a couple more.
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Yes ,runner beans I have been assured they taste sooooo much better than what we are used to,sounds like a challenge to me ,dibbers at dawn!!!
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Wow :blob7: Runners are my favourite, so I'm now dribbling in anticipation of an elite runner, yum :sunny:
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Any passing Garden Organic members could do worse than look in the new issue of The Organic Way, where our own aj mentions the pleasures and benefits of taking part in a seed circle.
It all made a very interesting read! :happy7:
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Any passing Garden Organic members could do worse than look in the new issue of The Organic Way, where our own aj mentions the pleasures and benefits of taking part in a seed circle.
It all made a very interesting read! :happy7:
Kind of you to notice! Thank you. :sunny:
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I would like to join please, if there is a space left. :wave:
I brought some seeds back from Japan last year when I visited my family. I'm hoping to save seeds of varieties that are difficult to get in the UK. It's hard to say which ones I can offer to the circle but I'm thinking black seeded soya beans and bicoloured perilla at the moment. I had good crops with these two last season; black soya beans gave me a good crop (I'd tried T&M soya beans many times in the past with no germination) and the bicoloured perilla turned out to be really easy and the most fragrant type I've ever grown. Hopefully I can harvest seeds of a few more varieties too.
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I think mine might be purple tomatillos but I've never grown them before....I've finally agreed/been offered back surgery so that might just cramp my style a bit. But hopefully something will obligingly bolt on me.- Even the rhubarb is trying to do so at the moment. Its under a compost bin... :drunken_smilie:
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Can someone sticky this?
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Done- I actually thought Jayb had already done that- maybe the blu-tac dried out a bit , that happens sometimes.
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With shaking hands and all possible digits crossed I write that I am hoping to grow for this years seed circle-
Climbing french -Jack Edwards and Bridgwater also lablab Yings.
I have never grown lablab and there are warnings that the beans themselves are toxic unless well cooked. Theres lots of talk about it being a useful forage plant for deer (that is good to know!) however it is also used like a mange tout but needs to be kept in warmer so greenhouse/ tunnel needed. So that sounds a useful and practical thing to grow if the weather is anything like last few years!
I chopped up a Shark's fin (small one) last night but the seeds were not mature, so I am going to leave the bigger ones until later until I chop another. So hopefully there will be some viable seeds in one which can go in this years circle, and to anyone who was in last years, but not this please let me know and I will send some out to you.
So there is a start- I have a plan. Maybe there will be more as well :icon_cheers:
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I'm hoping to have several varieties of umbellate peas, and other peas and beans, but if we get another season like the last that may yet go wrong again. I don't know what else there's likely to be; it depends entirely on how things go.
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Have added some 'how to save seeds' information to our 2013 Seed Sharing Circle blog page:
https://sites.google.com/site/seedsharingcircle/seed-parcel/seed-parcel-2013
Please let me know about other online seedsaving ressources that should go there and also if any of the links don't work.
And if there are any outstanding seedsaving questions, please do ask. Somebody will know the answer. Or can look it up for you.
The best seedsaving book for UK conditions is Sue Stickland's ' Back Garden Seed Saving: Keeping Our Vegetable Heritage Alive'
In the USA/worldwide the most highly rated book is: Suzanne Ashworth's 'Seed to Seed'
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Tora san, shiso ga suki desu yo! :glasses9:
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Tora san, shiso ga suki desu yo! :glasses9:
Your Japanese is very good! Are you into Japanese cuisine as well? Shiso is something I cannot do without during the summer. I grow some every year. :glasses9:
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Arigatou gozaimashita. Nihongo wo sukoshi kakemasu.
I sowed some last year but I suspect the seed was old. I'll try again this year. I usually try akashiso for the colour.
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Any passing Garden Organic members could do worse than look in the new issue of The Organic Way, where our own aj mentions the pleasures and benefits of taking part in a seed circle.
It all made a very interesting read! :happy7:
Love the photo of the six hands coming together in a circle, palm up, and there are seeds on every hand - says it all and artistic at the same time.
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count me in I have got loads that I could swap including one or two unusual ones.
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Hi all :wave:, please could i join the seed circle for 2013, im mostly into tomatoes and have 80 different types to swap etc, but there is a few varieties that ive ran out of and need replacing!! please tell me more how the seed circle is run as things have changed since i was last on here!!! many thanks Sarah :sunny:
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Welcome aboard Tora, steveg1966 and gunnerbee :wave:
It's different from a straight seed swap in everyone chooses 2 or more heritage or open pollinated vegetables/fruit/edible herb/flower etc of their choice. Over the season grow your chosen varieties and produce enough seed to share with everyone in the group. eg 5-20 tomato seeds, 10 beans or peas etc per person. The idea is to keep the varieties interesting, not much point in sharing Gardner's Delight as they are readily available and most folk already have a packet or two.
It's great to get updates from everyone on this thread as the season progresses, fun to hear how crops are doing and keep a track of what we can look forward to. Feel free to post pictures and ask any questions you may have.
Once your seeds have ripened and are dry, they can be divided up between the members of the group, some use little plastic zippy bags, or make their own paper ones etc. Seed are then sent to me and once they are all collected in I divide the bags between everyone and send your collection back. We have a Seed Sharing document https://sites.google.com/site/seedsharingcircle/ where you can add your descriptions on what your sharing, photos are great too so everyone knows what they will be growing, also helps with identifying any off types.
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I think we might be about full for this group?
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I think we might be about full for this group?
Full house!...and may the fun begin :icon_cheers:
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Awesome sounds good to me! Love the list where do I send mine to as I have some japanese purple!!! All I need for right now is some of The amateur!!! Can't seem to find these humble Seeds anywhere!! Oh and some box car willie and some mortgage lifter!!! Xxx
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Awesome sounds good to me! Love the list where do I send mine to as I have some japanese purple!!! All I need for right now is some of The amateur!!! Can't seem to find these humble Seeds anywhere!! Oh and some box car willie and some mortgage lifter!!! Xxx
Are you referring to Jayb's tomato library link? If so...you need to send her PM as that is separate issue from the seed saving circle.
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Good to have you onboard Steve, Gunnerbee and Tora :sunny:
Awesome sounds good to me! Love the list where do I send mine to as I have some japanese purple!!! All I need for right now is some of The amateur!!! Can't seem to find these humble Seeds anywhere!! Oh and some box car willie and some mortgage lifter!!! Xxx
T and M are stocking these if you are interested in a source:
http://www.thompson-morgan.com/vegetables/vegetable-seeds/tomato-seeds/tomato-the-amateur-heritage/4865TM?source=google-prodex&gclid=CLeSz6z4tbYCFUbKtAodmhsAWg
and others too:
http://www.victoriananursery.co.uk/Tomato_Seed_Amateur/
http://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/item_1371b_tomato_the_amateur__heirloomheritage_variety_seeds
http://www.moreveg.co.uk/shop/article_TOMAM/Tomato-Amateur.html?shop_param=cid%3D1%26aid%3DTOMAM%26
http://www.kingsseeds.com/vegetable_seeds/Tomato%20Amateur/P-14826
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Is it too late to join for this year?
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Possibles....... Runner beans from Turkey . Tomatoes..... Tibet Appel , Homosa, Bijskij-zeltyi & Stump of the World.
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Plus CFb Birds egg. All fingers crossed.
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Is it too late to join for this year?
No jump in Poolcue :wave:
But I think full now unless someone drops out.
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Nice possibles Markfield R :toothy10:
I did email HSL about Bijskij-zeltyi last year as it may not be the correct name for this tomato;
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Bijskij_Zeltyi
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Bijskij_Plum
Unfortunately they did not reply.
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I'm going to be growing some Glass Gem corn this year and thought of adding some, but I'm not sure how useful a crop it is? It does look beautiful though :drunken_smilie:
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I'm going to be growing some Glass Gem corn this year and thought of adding some, but I'm not sure how useful a crop it is?
:toothy10: OH YES!..that is exciting...I'm sure it is very useful :icon_thumleft: :icon_biggrin:
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I'm going to be growing some Glass Gem corn this year and thought of adding some, but I'm not sure how useful a crop it is? It does look beautiful though :drunken_smilie:
How exquisite looking - just like it had been put together from multicoloured glass beads. Goodness! That is beautiful corn, Jayb :angel11:
http://www.fennelandfern.co.uk/blog/2012/05/11/glass-gem-corn/
And a little bit of history on this corn:
http://www.nativeseeds.org/index.php/community/blog/entry/story-of-glass-gem-corn
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:toothy10: OH YES!..that is exciting...I'm sure it is very useful :icon_thumleft: :icon_biggrin:
Exciting yes :blob7:
Useful....we will have to see, maybe if it's ground? :happy7:
I tried a little in the popty ping earlier today but no pop to it!
Hmmm, perhaps best as ornamental, I just love the colours, particularly the pinks, light blue and greens, seeds are quite small though.
Thanks Galina, great links.
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I should have some interesting peas, and hopefully a couple of lettuces. I haven't saved seed from these before, but it's supposed to be easy as long as they have time to mature. I'll see what else gets planted.
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I should have some interesting peas, and hopefully a couple of lettuces. I haven't saved seed from these before, but it's supposed to be easy as long as they have time to mature. I'll see what else gets planted.
Sounds good Robert :toothy10:
I've had problems with lettuce the last couple of years as it's been so wet here. Galina's pretty hot on lettuce I think a few others too hopefully they will chime in.
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Green Zebra, bred by Tom Wagner, is 40 years old this year. I was lucky enough to get some 'breeder's seed' directly from Tom last season which I'm going to be growing. I'm not sure if or how different regular Green Zebra may have become away from it's source over the 40 years? But I like Green Zebra, it's a good tomato and I think these will be a nice one to share with others.
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Green Zebra, bred by Tom Wagner, is 40 years old this year. I was lucky enough to get some 'breeder's seed' directly from Tom last season which I'm going to be growing. I'm not sure if or how different regular Green Zebra may have become away from it's source over the 40 years? But I like Green Zebra, it's a good tomato and I think these will be a nice one to share with others.
Considerably different - we talked about this on another group in 2001, and Tom Wagner said then that at that time the Green Zebra variations were already tremendous. And that he could see distinct 'genetic drift' in only 5 generations in his own location. Considering he made this statement about tomatoes in his own location, the genetic drift of all the Green Zebras in all the different places where this enigmatic tomato has been grown, is substantial. I got seeds from 3 different sources (one was a freebie in an Australian gardening magazine) and the other two from the USA. One of the US seeds has much higher yield and the Australian one has better flavour. To look at they are all undoubtedly Green Zebra, but with individual genetic drift. We have a local example for this genetic drift - Gardener's Delight tomato - has been saved and 'reselected' by seed companies so many times, it is difficult to know which is the original, or closest to the original. RealSeeds have been offering two different strains.
Hence the recent breeder's selection to give us back Tom's idea of what Green Zebra should look and taste like. I look forward to your reports and seeds.
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Thanks for that Jayb , Bijskij zeltyi was from HSL so perhaps I will hang fire on this one. I do have
tomato Lemom Tree and pea Latvian and CFb Birds Egg. So many fingers crossed!
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No it's a good tomato, you sent me some seeds a few years ago and it did very well :wave: I'm just queering the name vs description from the HSL. I've no doubt it is true to type as sent out by them, but it does sound much closer to the description Bijskij Plum?
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I've got now 36 square meter bed sorted for coming maize seed plants :icon_cheers: Only one side of it is 'open' and facing next doors plot..and they don't grow any corn at all..behind their plot has THICK 10 foot hedge..and other 2 sides has high hedges too and one side will have row on climbing bean..bed is getting almost all day sun (that's if the sun will shine this summer) and is bit of a 'sun trap'..gets really warm being so sheltered.
Plan is that I'm going to hand pollinate number of plants to keep variety 'clean' and let other plants to pollinate themselves..they should not get cross pollinated anyway as none of my immediate neighbours do grow corn and each plot is behind hedging, and then there is trees, greenhouses etc if there should be some sweetcorn growers on the site, from past years experience, I know we don't have many and not near me :icon_cheers:
Broadbean plants were planted yesterday and I'm going to set some seed straight into ground as well..to make sure we've got plenty :icon_cheers:
Another couple of weeks and I'll sow the corn :icon_thumleft:
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Well done you, sounds like a super sunny spot :toothy10:. Are you going to be growing anything underneath ? I guess it might be a little tricky for hand pollinating?
Yum, love Broad beans, my Aztec ones have only just been sown in modules, so a while behind yours. I've my fingers crossed as not that many seeds to start.
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What beautiful looking corn just like jewels
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Are you going to be growing anything underneath ?
I haven't decided yet..I'll see first how the space is getting filled up but its so nice to have a big space 'problem'..I suspect I've got plenty of there to have smaller section for some other crop(s) to get more seeds :icon_cheers:
I might even tempt faith and do some outdoor toms... :icon_cheers:
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I might even tempt faith and do some outdoor toms... :icon_cheers:
Oh boy now she's done it! :tongue5:
What about some bush tomatoes or dwarfs that you could cover with a temporary hoop-house mini poly-tunnel?
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What beautiful looking corn just like jewels
The Glass Gem? I think they look lovely, I'm a sucker for different colour bean seeds too. I'm thinking I'm a shiny bead kind of person!
I'm hoping they look that good, but I've read somewhere not all the cobs are as pretty as the pictures portray :dontknow:
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Hi again.
After much reading, the 'fig' idea is unworkable, but, if I'm still on the list, I will have Spaghetti Marrow seeds for sure, with something else of interest I'm sure.... I'm trying to harden-off a bunch of tomatoes, just in case the sun shines..
Even if I don't make the updated list I can send seeds in anyway. .
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Hi again.
After much reading, the 'fig' idea is unworkable, but, if I'm still on the list, I will have Spaghetti Marrow seeds for sure, with something else of interest I'm sure.... I'm trying to harden-off a bunch of tomatoes, just in case the sun shines..
Even if I don't make the updated list I can send seeds in anyway. .
You don't get away that easily :happy7:
I'm sure whatever you do decide on sharing will be great.
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i second that - have two varieties of Nigel B's peas that are growing happily in the garden here, both around 2 foot tall at the moment. Nice plants. Looking forward to the flowers and pods.
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How's it going guys?
My Green Zebra's are coming on well, Highland kale too :toothy10:
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In general, running slightly late with things but feeling hopeful! :happy7:
Hoping to save seeds for a mini orange pepper I bought in Leeds market in 2011. Cheeringly, the plant from last year is starting to produce already, so hoping that this year's plants don't let me down.
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Lots of peas growing away, rat-tailed radishes coming up well. Too early to tell yet with beans; my first planting of runners all rotted, and I just planted more today.
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The celeriac roots were eaten by rabbits over the winter, so they are a no no, but I've left some of the best Cheltenham Greentop beetroot for seed, and parsnips are already flowering. Biskopens Graaert peas are poking their red stems out of their root trainers ready to be transplanted soon. I'll try for a few other things too. Perhaps Huauzontle if it does well.
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How would one join your group?
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How's it going guys?
My Green Zebra's are coming on well, Highland kale too :toothy10:
Great news on both!
Here lettuce Mescher is looking good, one batch in the greenhouse to guarantee seeds even if we get a horrid summer, two batches outside (I prefer to harvest seed from lettuce outside if possible).
Have put a picture on the 2013 seed circle website of a young Mescher lettuce. In the greenhouse they are almost green, outside they are much redder - interesting.
Thanks for the seeds goodlife - they look like they want to grow :wave:!
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I'm growing Biskopens Graart myself; it's going to be interesting to see what it turns into. I haven't seen pea seeds quite that chestnut brown colour before.
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My hangdown broadbeans are in full flower :icon_cheers: ..and I have seen quite few bees working on them :icon_cheers:
As my broadbeans were started early in GH..they are well ahead other allotments broadbeans so no cross pollination issues :icon_cheers:
I've been around plots and checked the flowering situation and I can safely save seeds from all the first and second 'layers' of pods :icon_cheers:
Peas are growing strongly but still long way from flowering.
Tomatoes are all 'in' and looking better than they ever did last summer...so I'm very hopeful for few seeds from some of them.
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How would one join your group?
Hi Clumsy, welcome to the forum :wave:
Group is full for this year. It may not seem like many but I think it would start to become a chore and difficult for folk to produce seed if the group were bigger. It's likely we will be starting a new group at the beginning of 2014 for anyone interested. But if you are planning on saving seed this year there is the seed swap section http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/board,10.0.html
where you could list them and what you are looking for in exchange.
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I've skimmed through the thread and updated the list as far as I can, if I've left stuff off let me know. I know Debs was having problems locating shallots so I've left her's blank for the moment. It's not a will do list just what's being tried for and maybe included
Looking good :toothy10:
Aj
Robert B, Peas /Umbellate peas, Rat-tailed Radishes, lettuces and Beans.
Goodlife, Cherokee White Corn , Hangdown Broad Beans, possibly Peas and Tomatoes.
Galina; Lettuce Mescher, Melothria scabra, aka mouse melon or Mexican Sour gherkin, Climbing beans from Austria and USA, herb 'Salad Burnet'.
Markfield rover, Runner beans from Turkey, CFB Birds Egg, Tomatoes - Tibet Appel , Homosa, Bijskij-zeltyi, Stump of the World and Lemon Tree. Pea Latvian
Jayb, Tom’s Green Zebra , Highland/Ethiopian Kale, Glass Gem Corn, Yu Choy Sum - Red Stem,
Toshofthe Wuffingas,
Ruud,
Nigel B, Spaghetti Marrow, possibly tomatoes?
Digeroo,
Green lily, purple tomatillos
SueK, mini orange pepper,
Ian Pearson, Cheltenham Greentop Beetroot, Parsnip, Biskopens Graaert peas and possibly Huauzontle.
Pumpkinlover, Climbing french -Jack Edwards and Bridgwater also lablab Yings (possible sp?).
Paulie, Lemon Drop chilli
Debs,
Elsie, yellow courgette and/or squash, back-up plan tomatoes, or possibly peas.
Tora, Black Seeded soya beans and Bicoloured Perilla
Steveg1966, “one or two unusual ones”.
Gunnerbee, Tomatoes?
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My broadies are currently about six inches high, but at least they're growing, which is more than they were doing this time last year.
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So far so good! Tomatoes Stump of the World -look strong plants and seem way ahead of the others.
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First serious problem here: the Melothria plants that should have been the source of seed for you all have turned into slug food - just saw some horrible stumps, the leaves are gone. I am so mad.
:BangHead:
Yes I am resowing as we speak, fingers crossed it isn't too late .
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Melothria plants that should have been the source of seed for you all have turned into slug food - just saw some horrible stumps, the leaves are gone.
Oh no!
If it makes you feel any better...same happened here with some of my squashes :BangHead: Found a snail in GH. It was good thing that I thought to check the GH's last night ..and what did I see..this huge single snail happily 'sitting' on top of my seedlings, already left a trail of eaten stumps. It it would had a chance to carry on all night, there wouldn't been single one left to grow.
Now I've only suffered loss of one variety :BangHead:..which I'm going to re-sow today.
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Thanks for the sympathy goodlife :angel11:
After all the wet, it isn't surprising. I remove them from the greenhouse almost daily there are so many. Time for a torchlit nighttime raid as there are still some that I missed somewhere. Does compost routinely come with slug and snail eggs in it???????????????? :tongue3: or do they just crawl in????????
Next time I will bottle cloche Melothria inside the greenhouse, if it isn't too hot when the next batch get to that size, and/or put a ring of crushed eggshells around them.
Sorry you lost a variety too. Perils of a rainy late spring :BangHead:
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The celeriac roots were eaten by rabbits over the winter, so they are a no no, but I've left some of the best Cheltenham Greentop beetroot for seed, .
Sorry about your celeriac, Ian. I had beetroots eaten in storage by mice. Seems like it is tricky to store crops over winter and it is tricky to leave them in the soil.
These biennial crops are quite difficult. Does anybody know whether clamps work any better? I would not know how to do a clamp here though, as our garden was under water for most of winter and I lost so many plants as a result. In the surrounding area there are still some shallow lakes that haven't dried out yet.
How do others store biennials without mishap?
Looking forward to the turnips. Hope all goes well. What is Huauzontle and how do you use it?
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I've left some turnips to over winter in the ground...and they survived....but that was just pure luck with weather that year.
I'm not sure if any of mine would survive in clamp otherwise..I'm sure if I were to make effort and do some fancy storage 'thingies'..surely all manner of rodents would get interested of them.
Other than that I have some metal dustbins with metal lids...those lined with straw and roots layered there and the bin kept in shed have worked well for all manner of things...potatoes too. Hmm..must remember buy another bin..lots of possible roots crops to save for seeds and for eating..
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Metal bin in the garage , with metal lid, that could work. Must see what I can find. Thanks GL :-)
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Only trouble with having lid on bin is that conditions can get quite damp inside..but once I started to use dry straw..the straw keeps the excess humidity soaked up...and occasionally I leave lid undone while I'm pottering about and shut it all back up again later.
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Has anyone sown broad beans this late? I just received some interesting Spanish varieties, and I'm tempted to plant one. The late start would isolate it and hopefully get true seed.
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Yes I sowed some last week!
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What is Huauzontle and how do you use it?
Huauzontle or Aztec Broccoli, sorry I can't help much as it's my first time growing it, it's a little small as yet. I had my seeds from Real Seeds the description sounds good http://www.realseeds.co.uk/cookinggreens.html
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I've not used clamps either, I think it is too wet here. Similarly mice seem in abundance and can be troublesome. I'm not sure which way will be best yet? I'm growing Early Blood beetroots which ideally I'd like to save the best for seed as they are a lovely beetroot which does well here and seed is not easy to come by. I'd also very much like to overwinter some Gilfeather Turnip (Swede) for seed next year. John M was so kind to share some seed with us, I'd like to keep it going for more people to try growing them. Again not an easy variety to source.
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What is Huauzontle and how do you use it?
Huauzontle or Aztec Broccoli, sorry I can't help much as it's my first time growing it, it's a little small as yet. I had my seeds from Real Seeds the description sounds good http://www.realseeds.co.uk/cookinggreens.html
I grew some last year..for a moment :BangHead: As soon as I planted my plugs..slugs/snails had them, just like they had almost everything else. So cannot say if they are nice or not..easy to germinate for sure.
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I've not used clamps either, I think it is too wet here. Similarly mice seem in abundance and can be troublesome. I'm not sure which way will be best yet? I'm growing Early Blood beetroots which ideally I'd like to save the best for seed as they are a lovely beetroot which does well here and seed is not easy to come by. I'd also very much like to overwinter some Gilfeather Turnip (Swede) for seed next year. John M was so kind to share some seed with us, I'd like to keep it going for more people to try growing them. Again not an easy variety to source.
I've got some Gilfeather going on here too :icon_cheers: So all going well, plenty of seeds to share :icon_cheers:
I'm also hoping to store some carrots for next year..got hold of some old Finnish carrot seeds that were grown for two purposes..for fodder and for human consumption as they are sweet enough..apparantely they do grow big and are whitish coloured...but until I see them actually growing and tasted some can't be sure of anything. I'm eagerly waiting to taste and see what they are like :toothy10:..and then they need to store over winter too..
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I've got some Gilfeather going on here too :icon_cheers: So all going well, plenty of seeds to share :icon_cheers:
Super :sunny: are your's going to seed this year? I might do something else next year if you already have lots of seed to share. Then grow them out in a year or two.
I'm also hoping to store some carrots for next year..got hold of some old Finnish carrot seeds that were grown for two purposes..for fodder and for human consumption as they are sweet enough..apparantely they do grow big and are whitish coloured...but until I see them actually growing and tasted some can't be sure of anything. I'm eagerly waiting to taste and see what they are like :toothy10:..and then they need to store over winter too..
Your Finnish carrots sound really interesting, look forward to the growing and tasting updates :happy7:
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Super :sunny: are your's going to seed this year?
No..I've just planted them out as plugs so won't be seeding until next year. It would be nice to have two people doing it...just in case something goes wrong with either of our crops. I only got few seeds left in a packet so not many second chances here.
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Ok so the stuff I was going to do for the circle did not materialise-one of each type of bean only germinated.
Here we go again :BangHead:
I was going to give in and just send in the Shark's fin seeds to distribute but not be a "reciever" I cannot bear the thought of providing minimal or not very interesting stuff whilst being on the recieving end of some fantastic and interesting seeds.
Anyway I have a few things that might be interesting and actually grow! however I am NOT going to say what they are- might as well just spray them with round-up!!
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Hello everyone, hoping this finds us all well.
Just reporting really that things are a few weeks behind, but I'm seeing progress at last in some of our Russian tomatoes: Yabloki Na Snegu (Apples in Snow) and Sibirsky Skorospeliy (Siberian Early), both bush plants, and hopefully Leningradskiy Skorospeliy (Leningrad Early) not too far behind; plus the mini-orange peppers are enjoying the current hot spell here in Leeds, like the rest of us. :sunny:
Sue
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I've got loads of peas flowering. As long as the pigeons don't get to them, there should be plenty of seed. Beans are well behind but looking promising, and a row of rat's tail radish is growing like mad. I've got some Lux de Otono broad beans which are supposed to give a November crop if they're planted now and there's a mild autumn. I'm going to try them anyway,
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Hi SueK :wave: hope you are enjoying the :sunny:
Those tomato varieties sound great, looking forward to growing them next year. I've grown a few more bush varieties this year, earliest so far are Betime Macbeth (from last year's seed circle) cropping well, a home bred stipey one, and this morning I noticed a Latah just starting to turn colour.
Oowwha Robert, yum to peas. I can't wait to hear what crops well and will be added to the parcel :toothy10: Good luck with the broadies, sounds a very useful sort, fingers crossed.
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I'm having a bit of a wobble with Yu Choy Sum Red Stem and Ethiopian Kale. I haven't quite worked out what's what and who can cross pollinate with what.
Here's what the Red Stem looks like
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That kale looks lovely and soft- almost like spinach!
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I'm having a bit of a wobble with Yu Choy Sum Red Stem and Ethiopian Kale. I haven't quite worked out what's what and who can cross pollinate with what.
Here's what the Red Stem looks like
That is very attractive!
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Ok so the stuff I was going to do for the circle did not materialise-one of each type of bean only germinated.
Here we go again :BangHead:
I was going to give in and just send in the Shark's fin seeds to distribute but not be a "reciever" I cannot bear the thought of providing minimal or not very interesting stuff whilst being on the recieving end of some fantastic and interesting seeds.
Anyway I have a few things that might be interesting and actually grow! however I am NOT going to say what they are- might as well just spray them with round-up!!
Fingers crossed! Unfortunately bean seeds can rot very fast if they are only the slightest bit overwatered. Hope your other (secret) plants are doing well.
I was chancing my luck putting up a picture of the lettuce Mescher on the blog page, but the greenhouse plants are starting to shoot up a flower stalk and the outside plants are really showing what the variety can do. I don't agree with the HSL description that this is a Cos lettuce. Been to the 'Arche Noah' webpage (Austrian HSL equivalent) and they say that it is a butterhead or Bibb lettuce, as they call it. I would agree with that.
We have some replacement Mexican Sour Gherkin plants. But they are still very small and vulnerable to slugs. Fingers crossed there ............
Had the first bean plants bitten off by voles/mice or whoever does this. Fingers crossed so far none of the new types. :BangHead:
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Just planted some rare beans I got from the states a while ago.
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That kale looks lovely and soft- almost like spinach!
Sorry to disappoint no pictures of the Kale only the Choy Sum, you're right the leaves are nice and tender :happy7:
I'll try and get a picture of the Kale later on.
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Last year I saved the seeds from some pineberries ,I now have a huge bed of plants covered in fruit all untouched by the budgies I can see why the shops except Wautrose don't sell them as they are a little squidgy , so would anybody be interested in seeds ?
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yes please :wave:
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Good, I'll save plenty.
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What is the taste like?
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They do have a feint pineapple taste ,quite juicy .A few plants last year have turned into hundreds all covered in fruit , slugs and birds stay away. They are possibly style over substance but for no effort you get a lot of fruit and they do look lovely , I made some lavender meringues in colour too, and strewn with the pineberries looked very pretty . Commercially I would imagine they are a non starter only seen them in Waitrose but they do have a place on the plot or even better in my tum!
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Another pineberry fan, flavour is lovely, I just wish the fruit were a bit bigger.
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Glass Gem corn is turning into a bit of a triffid (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/ohmy.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Shoulder height and no sign of tassels. It's defo going to be on the late side, I hope it won't clash with my sweet corn!
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Glass Gem corn is turning into a bit of a triffid (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/ohmy.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Shoulder height and no sign of tassels. It's defo going to be on the late side, I hope it won't clash with my sweet corn!
WHAAAT! Shoulder height already!...you must be 4 ft 'tall' then :tongue3: Cherokee white that I'm growing has been slow the get going as we had so cool night temps earlier on the summer...but last few weeks they have finally taken off :icon_cheers: They are no where as tall as yours yet..only about 2 ft but they do look VERY healthy and the stems are really thick (good sign for some potential vigour) and the side 'shoots' are almost as tall as the leader and there is lots of them..quite bushy plants :icon_cheers:
At the moment I'm 'force feeding' and watering my corn to get it bulk up quickly and hopefully they are willing to tassle up more readily too. I know corn growth is 'on timer' and they do what they are 'programmed' to do...but, one can only live in hope and do one's best in case it there is chance to influence the growth :glasses9: Lets hope we get looooong and warm autumn to get the corn ripen up.
Hangdown broadbeans are doing GREAT :icon_cheers: LOADS and LOADS of pods have set and now I'm just waiting them to mature for seed harversting...been eating quite a lot too and still there is more than I can cope with :icon_cheers:
I've got some lettuces that are just starting to go to seed...I didn't originally list those up as possibilities for seedsaving..but I have been living in hope that they would make it this year..so fingers crossed for success.
OH..PEAS...LOADS of them..and again..didn't promise earlier on any...but they have done well and some will find into circle too :icon_cheers:
That's for the update so far...
Oh..not yet...edit to add...some tomato seeds may end up into parcel too...last year being disaster for my toms and I was planning then to include some varieties but there was no luck. I was left with only few seeds for this year and luckily I have some healthy plants with some healthy and plump tomatoes hanging on :icon_cheers: I will save some tomato seeds this year as well :icon_cheers:
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2 weeks have gone from my last post and my corn is grown a lot!! :icon_cheers: ...over 6 ft tall now, still 'babies' and should gain couple feet more.
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Wow Goodlife! How I'd like a bed of corn like that..
The allotment has proved, sadly, really not good for corn, (Rabbits and very strong winds), but I always plant some in the garden (Its the riebel maize this year), and its catching up! Not six foot yet, but big and strong it certainly is!
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I'm getting pea seeds harvested. The broadies have done well, but they're all hybridised and I don't know what they'll turn into so I won't include the mix this year. The day length neutral ones are up and if they produce a crop I'll put those in. Rat tailed radishes are five feet high and flopping all over everything.
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I know this may be controversial, but what about Goji Berry?
I have a Young Goji that is producing berries right along its branches. I'll get pics. I know the only other one on the site is the same, as this one is a direct cutting.
I wonder if anyone knows if its fertility will pass on? Or will it produce seeds of an inferior type d'ya think?
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WELL DONE for get getting some goji berries...I never managed that and plants were eaten down by slugs and snails.
If there is berries...there will be seeds and new plants are easily grown from them.
I can't say anything about new plants being inferior...I doubt it. Your seed suggestion sound good to me :icon_thumleft:
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Update with corn: some of the plants are now 9ft tall :toothy10: BUT...not a sign of tassels yet :BangHead: I'm getting a bit 'twitchy' about it, because if they don't soon start casting pollen, they won't make it before the cold weather.
Fingers crossed they will want to have some 'sex' soon and the autumn is long and warm :sunny:
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Update with corn: some of the plants are now 9ft tall :toothy10: BUT...not a sign of tassels yet :BangHead: I'm getting a bit 'twitchy' about it, because if they don't soon start casting pollen, they won't make it before the cold weather.
Fingers crossed they will want to have some 'sex' soon and the autumn is long and warm :sunny:
Good luck. 9ft that's very tall!!!
Here fermenting the first tomato seeds for the circle. A yellow cherry tomato called 'Ester Hess Yellow Cherry'. Tomato 'Brown Berry' to come soon for the health conscious chocoholics amongst us. Ok, they do not taste like chocolate, but a very flavourful cherry tomato all the same. Collecting Mescher lettuce seeds which have started to form. The herb 'Salad Burnett' will have to wait probably for next year as it shows no signs of flowering yet. More vole damage to beans. :BangHead: They nibble through the base of plants which are already up the beanstick and have started 'beaning'. In desperation I am trying to root cuttings of what is left of the rarer varieties. :BangHead: But I should manage a pea variety for the circle. Think I have enough of 'Norli' a very early Swiss mangetout pea and very high yielding.
Handpollinating pattison courgettes too, but how much seed I will get and whether it is enough for the circle? - we will have to see. Fingers crossed. It is a bit warmer than last year, so hopefully I won't end up with all seedless squashes again. :BangHead:
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I've got half a jar of Robinson, which is an excellent tall wrinkled pea, so I'll be putting that in. I want to see what quantities I get of other peas before I commit myself further.
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So I was just watching the last of the bees leaving the tall flowering Cardoon for the evening.....
Ooh!
Cardoon!
Robert, I remember (Just re-read) you seemed interested last year. Would you like me to try to get some live ones this year? I'll happily take your (anyone's) advice on how to get the best chance of success, although they really seem just like great big thistles and they do well enough if left alone for more than a minute. :)
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I'm definitely interested in cardoons, thanks. I haven't been able to grow them before, thanks to winter waterlogging (I think), but if that was the problem they should be OK in a raised bed.
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Hi all this post is interesting I see you have alot of interesting seeds I wouldn't mind some but I don't realy have any rare ones to offer. I have got some pumpkins that I will be harvesting in a month or two and they are doing realy great so I think I should have a good batch of seeds. Other than that I don't have alot to contribute :(
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Hi Steve
If you have a look the page 1..you can see what this circle is all about...it is not swap as such. At the beginning of the year we all 'sign in' to the circle..we grow the crops that are purposely grown for that reason and end of the year, each person from the circle get some of each others seeds.
Perharps you like to join again in few month time when it is time to start planning for next year?.. :toothy10:
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Another progress report... :wave:
FINALLY the corn has decided to make show of itself.. :icon_cheers: Tassles are out!!!! and the plants are about 11 ft tall now.. :drunken_smilie: Never had such a monsters before :glasses9: If the weather keeps reasonable until end of October...there is chance that they make it to seeds...
Tomato seeds are fermenting...broadbeans are all harvested and drying out, almost ready for shelling.. :icon_cheers:...cucs have ripened and I'm about to take seeds out...its all go-go.
Oh..pumpkins are getting huge...and looks like there is going to be bumper crop of seeds there.. :icon_cheers:
It won't be long and we have to start digging those seed bags out..... :icon_cheers:
Oh..edit to add....lettuces are in full bloom in GH... :icon_cheers: ....MORE seeds! :icon_cheers:
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I've just started podding my broadies today. Not for swapping; I haven't saved that many, and they're all F1's or F2's from my own mix, so don't know what they'll turn into next year. Peas are coming in fine despite a bit of a disaster when some wigwams toppled, just when my back was really bad and I couldn't do anything about it. Result was the seed got mixed, and there isn't much of some varieties. Never mind, at least I haven't lost any!
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I was planning on growing the french banana shallot 'eschalote gris' but won't be getting the shallots until september so nothing from me this year I'm afraid :(
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I was planning on growing the french banana shallot 'eschalote gris' but won't be getting the shallots until september so nothing from me this year I'm afraid :(
Oh, don't give up yet Debs! Do you have any non F1 tomatoes growing? Or any beans? Are any of your lettuces bolting? Maybe your peas are still producing? There is still time to switch to another crop or two. Good luck!
I wanted to contribute seeds of herb Salad Burnett. Can't do that either this year, because none of them are flowering yet. :BangHead: So that will have to wait. One the other hand, the second sowing of Mexican Sour Gherkin/Mouse Melon/melothria scabra now has tiny little fruits on the plants. :happy7: Fingers crossed there. Peas for the circle are done and beans are in progress. As every year I have hand pollinated squashes and we will see whether it is a good seed year with enough seeds for everybody or few seeds only, just enough to carry on. Last year was seedless, great shame because I could not take any seeds of Jeannine's rare squashes. But the weather this year is much warmer, so there should be some at least. Handpollinating Todo el Ano (with a tilde over the n) and still hoping that one year I will have enough for the circle. Also Striped Custard Marrow, a pattypan type courgette, which is shaped a bit like a tulip flower with scalloped edges. The stripes are only visible when the fruit is very mature. At the normal eating stage, it is just very pale green. 3 handpollinated fruits so far, but they are low down on the plants and at risk from slugs, mice and voles. Fingers crossed. Collecting Mescher lettuce seeds daily too. Seeds for cherry tomato Ester Hess is fermented and dried for the circle, just needs putting into packets.
Your corn sounds just fab, goodlife! There is a crop that needs a big commitment! Thank you for doing this for us (and Jayb!). :wave:
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Your corn sounds just fab, goodlife! There is a crop that needs a big commitment!
Talking about 'big'...I'm actually laughing myself for my big plans earlier on this year...I was supposed to hand pollinate the corn :icon_cheers:
I can't even reach the tassels to grab some pollen...nor to transfer it :drunken_smilie:
This was few days ago..and they are even taller now that the male tassels are poking out...not far from 12 ft :drunken_smilie:
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I'm pretty sure we have the Goji Berry seeds in hand :)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/39243143@N03/9639037690/)
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I have just harvested plenty of Sweet Cicely seeds ( one of my favourite seeds) would anyone be interested?
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I have just harvested plenty of Sweet Cicely seeds ( one of my favourite seeds) would anyone be interested?
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I have just harvested plenty of Sweet Cicely seeds ( one of my favourite seeds) would anyone be interested?
yes please, have never tried it but wanted to for a while. :wave: How do you use it?
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Great they are just such a handsome seed, when I sowed them I took great care to which they did not respond so I took the pots out of the greenhouse (unheated) stuck them out in the cold over winter and next spring up they popped , they are very hardy and have a strong tap root .
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I have just harvested plenty of Sweet Cicely seeds ( one of my favourite seeds) would anyone be interested?
Another Yes please :toothy10:
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Hi all this post is interesting I see you have alot of interesting seeds I wouldn't mind some but I don't realy have any rare ones to offer. I have got some pumpkins that I will be harvesting in a month or two and they are doing realy great so I think I should have a good batch of seeds. Other than that I don't have alot to contribute :(
Hi Tashsteve, thanks for the interest in the circle, pretty much as Goodlife said, it would be better to join in and start a new group at the beginning of 2014. But I'd be happy to send you a selection of seeds for you to grow next year, pm me if you would like some :wave:
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Oooh exciting, love the updates :icon_cheers:
Hi Nigel, I couldn't get your picture to open, not sure if it's me having a numpty moment!
Know how you feel Goodlife, the Glass Gem Corn was soooo much taller than I imagined! Although they are not ready for seed I picked one yesterday, I couldn't wait any longer to see what they looked like! Not quite like the pictures on the net, seeds are small compared to sweet corn, but pretty none the less and hopefully they will pop once dried.
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I managed to locate and have grown Monstrance bean this year, as the ones shared previously in the group failed to germinate for me. I thought they were going to be a dwarf bean, my mistake, a climber with white flowers. They are a little late, but I'm hoping they will ripen enough beans to include in the circle. Whilst having a google I came across a thread on another forum and it appears these may be the same as Red Eye Greasy beans, although really it is not a greasy been but a fall bean! Anyway I've also some Red Eye Greasy beans growing and they do appear very similar. Red Eyes came from Remy, her site now has updated information http://www.sampleseeds.com/?page_id=3725
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Getting ready to bag up! The red field peas 'Biskopens Graaert are dried and there is enough for a generous bag for everyone. I'm also providing parsnip, salsify, and Cheltenham Greentop beetroot.
I know the parcel from a couple of years ago included Painted Mountain corn(who sent it?) but membership changes, and seed gets old, so if it's wanted, I've collected lots and can add it to the parcel.
I might also be able to collect skirret too. It's not ripe yet, and the weather will have to behave.
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Ohhhh....its getting quite exciting now...all those 'little' seeds drying out all over the country and getting ready for their new homes.. :icon_cheers:
I still got quite few 'bits and bobs' to dry out...some are still on plants and won't be ready until last moment and others dried and ready for bagging to portions.
Jayb...your corn is very pretty..though much darker than in 'advertized'..you can still see from your photo the 'glassness' as the seeds are not 'solid coloured. Looooovely...looking forward for those.. :icon_cheers:
Well...I look forward for everything/anything.. :drunken_smilie:
Ian...for list of 'stuff' you have to come..sounds like its been good year for you..pst, Painted mountain corn was from Jayb.
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Getting ready to bag up! The red field peas 'Biskopens Graaert are dried and there is enough for a generous bag for everyone. I'm also providing parsnip, salsify, and Cheltenham Greentop beetroot.
I know the parcel from a couple of years ago included Painted Mountain corn(who sent it?) but membership changes, and seed gets old, so if it's wanted, I've collected lots and can add it to the parcel.
I might also be able to collect skirret too. It's not ripe yet, and the weather will have to behave.
Fantastic :icon_cheers:
I added Painted Mountain a little while back. I've a couple of other corn projects on the go so I won't have space to grow it for a couple of years, fresh seed would be welcome :happy7:
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I still got quite few 'bits and bobs' to dry out...some are still on plants and won't be ready until last moment and others dried and ready for bagging to portions.
How I sympathise as I'm playing the waiting game with my tomato plants and have brought most of them inside to benefit from the warmth, although the first batch of Yabloki Na Snegu seeds are fermenting in the kitchen. :clock:
Maybe I've got it wrong and they are pining for the Urals! :happy7:
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Choy Sum Red Stem - Brassica rapa – chinensis
and
Ethiopian Kale/Highland Kale - Brassica carinata
harvested, seed dried and winnowed. Just a note - some of the Highland Kale plants were slightly different from one another in leaf colour (slightly red) otherwise they seemed the same.
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I've grown Dib Daub and Early Russian cucumber this year. Dib Daub look pretty (not tasted though) Early Russian have done really well and produce a good crop, nice tasty fruits. A possibility?
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I picked a few more Glass Gem at the weekend,
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I’ve been through the thread and this is where we are at the moment – ish! Exciting stuff :blob7: and look forward to more updates. As soon as we know how many are in I’ll pm my address and information on what to do. Yayyyyy can’t wait :icon_cheers:
Robert B, Robinson Peas, harvested. Possible some other Peas /Umbellate peas or Rat-tailed Radishes or lettuces or Beans depending on harvest?
Goodlife, Hangdown Broad Beans (I think done?) and depending on harvest -Cherokee White Corn , possibly Peas and Tomatoes?
Galina; Ready; Lettuce Mescher, Ester Hess Yellow Cherry, also hoping for some of these Melothria scabra, aka mouse melon or Mexican Sour gherkin 'Striped Custard Marrow' ,Mr Yeoman's White seeded Cherokee Trail of Tear beans, Grandma Nellie's Yellow Mushroom beans, Black Valentine, 'Norli'
Markfield rover, in the bag; Pineberries and Sweet Cicerly. Possibly something from Runner beans from Turkey, CFB Birds Egg, Tomatoes - Tibet Appel , Homosa, Bijskij-zeltyi, Stump of the World and Lemon Tree. Pea Latvian?
Jayb, Highland/Ethiopian Kale and Yu Choy Sum - Red Stem both harvested and dried. Glass Gem Corn harvesting now, needs drying etc. Looks reasonable for Monstrance bean and Suess Becker Bean, plus a few other things.
Nigel B, Goji Berry and Cardoon seeds.
SueK, Yabloki Na Snegu tomato and Sibirskiy Skorospelyi (Siberian Early).
Ian Pearson, Ready; red field peas 'Biskopens Graaert, parsnip, salsify, and Cheltenham Greentop beetroot. Possibles Painted Mountain corn, skirrit.
Pumpkinlover, Shark’s Fin? Or Toyah Wilcox, maybe both!
Aj, "Avon Resistor parsnips, De Chioggia beetroot and Flat Leaf Parsley. Plus a bean or two and some toms".
Hoping to hear from
Toshofthe Wuffingas,
Ruud,
Digeroo,
Green lily,
Paulie,
Debs,
Elsie,
Tora,
Steveg1966,
Gunnerbee,
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In addition to Mescher and Ester Hess, Melothria Scabra is fruiting nicely. Will wait to the last moment before harvesting and seed drying for best seed maturity.
I have isolated/handpollinated 3 fruits of 'Striped Custard Marrow' a tulip flower shaped courgette, which is white as a young fruit but later develops green stripes as a sign of maturity. 2 are fully mature and have been taken in to 'cure' and mature the seeds further in the warmth of the conservatory, 1 has only just started on the green stripes outdoors and probably won't be ready in time for the seed circle. As usual, the seed count with squashes is very variable, but I hope that these two fruits will at least give everybody a couple of seeds. Fingers crossed - I am not cutting them open yet, to allow the seeds to ripen further post harvest. Last year just about all squashes were seedless due to the weather :sad10:
I have harvested Mr Yeoman's White seeded Cherokee Trail of Tear beans, a white seeded mutation of the more common black ones.
I think I have enough of Grandma Nellie's Yellow Mushroom beans, which are climbing and Black Valentine which are dwarf. Will know when final numbers are out.
At least one pea variety - from memory I have enough for everybody of 'Norli' a very early dwarf mangetout variety from Switzerland.
Salad Burnett is still not flowering, I didn't realise that it flowers in it's second year. Well at least I hope it will and give us seeds for the circle next year, if there is one.
I was hoping to save seeds from Black Opal cherry tomato, but need to research further whether this one is OP or hybrid. Maybe save seeds and grow next year, then decide. Should be obvious next year whether this delicious tomato is OP.
Are people interested in cherry tomatoes? Had a bit of a cherry grow-out this year and could offer 'Old Red Cherry' and an Amish variety 'Millie Yoder's Little Grape' if people like.
The picture of glass gem corn and Ethiopian kale on the seed circle page look super. Yes, it is getting exciting. Thank you to everybody for putting a bit of their garden aside and taking time to grow seeds for the circle. :wave:
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Wow who's been busy!!!! :blob7:
I can't find any reference to Black Opal being a hybrid, nothing on the breeders site http://www.gourmetgenetics.com/tomato/opal.html , or RHS http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/blogs/graham_rice/archive/2012/10/28/tomato-black-opal-new-black-cherry-tomato-from-dobies-and-suttons.aspx, seed packet, suttons or dobies selling the plants, or sites in America. But I'm sure I have read previously it is a F1, but no trace now so maybe not? Rossela is another from the same stable, T&M lists it as an F1 http://www.thompson-morgan.com/vegetables/vegetable-seeds/tomato-seeds/tomato-rosella/tt38814TM , Kings http://www.kingsseeds.com/vegetable_seeds/Tomato%20Rosella/P-14865 doesn't?
I can send you some Black Opal from Fothergil's to grow alongside as a comparison?
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Further to jayb's post, the Yabloki na Snegu tomato is "in progress" but looking good. I'll also be offering another bush variety Sibirskiy Skorospelyi (Siberian Early). We enjoyed both of these in a family taste test at the weekend, although, if I'm honest, our regular home-grown favourite Latah just had the edge! :happy7:
Unfortunately, the Leningrad Early plants which I had I decided not to continue with as there seemed to be quite a lot of variation between them.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/39243143@N03/9635800063/
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3667/9635800063_60512294a5_s.jpg)
Goji Berries! I managed to get...........oh I dunno. Enough! :)
And after much Umm-ing and arr-ing, my daughter and I managed to extract some fine, healthy-looking Cardoon seeds.
If I can spot something, anything else, I'll add them.
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JayB I was interested in this tomato but not if it was a hybrid and I found the same thing when I looked a little while ago..nothing. I sent an email off to Dobies yesterday, they have acknowledged the receipt of the e mail saying they will answer me within 3 days. I will let you know what they say when I hear.
XX Jeannine
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/39243143@N03/9635800063/
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3667/9635800063_60512294a5_s.jpg)
Goji Berries! I managed to get...........oh I dunno. Enough! :)
And after much Umm-ing and arr-ing, my daughter and I managed to extract some fine, healthy-looking Cardoon seeds.
If I can spot something, anything else, I'll add them.
Wow, lovely lot of berries. I didn't have success before when I grew a plant, looking forward to trying again.
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JayB I was interested in this tomato but not if it was a hybrid and I found the same thing when I looked a little while ago..nothing. I sent an email off to Dobies yesterday, they have acknowledged the receipt of the e mail saying they will answer me within 3 days. I will let you know what they say when I hear.
XX Jeannine
Good thinking Jeannine. Depending on the outcome I've plenty of seeds I can send.
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I'm still in; I have Avon Resistor Parsnip and De Chioggia Beetroot; plus who knows what beans and tomatoes...still saving at the moment. Will update once I have a tray of dried and saved seeds to split.
What's the cut off date JayB?
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Right...little update..Hangdown broadbeans=done, Peas=yep,,don't know which variety yet, lettuce=yep..again unsure what variety to choose, Cuban black tomato=done, white Cherokee corn...hmm..we'll see about that later on, maybe some beans of some sort, maybe some cucumber, maybe some peppers...lots of 'maybe's' :drunken_smilie:
So many things are still waiting to ripen up...oh, another 'maybe'...I've got some HUGE 'pumpkin seed' pumpkins..couple that were hand pollinated so hopefully there is plenty of seeds inside..but those are to fully ripen off yet :icon_cheers:
The list of seeds to come from everybody is looking VERY promising indeed :icon_cheers: :toothy10:
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Right I have tomatoes - Homosa & Bijskij zeltyi. Stump of the world -is fermenting .
Tibet-Appel is just turning if there is time I shall add these. CFB Birds Egg , are drying well.
Sweet Cicely are ready. Sorry that pineberry and Latvian peas are non runners. When I have the seeds done ,dusted and for sure I shall post a brief description.
Getting excited now!
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Jay B, I have had a e mail fro Ian Preate of Dobies confirming that Black Opal is NOT a hybrid that is good news so I think I will look for them now. XX Jeannine
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Yes good news :icon_cheers: I'm saving seeds from them and I can send some to you, I don't have your new address though.
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I can send you some Black Opal from Fothergil's to grow alongside as a comparison?
Yes please, that would be nice and useful :wave:
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JayB thank you, I will have a few please, I will PM my addy. How early did you find them I have heard conflicting stories about that too. XX Jeannine
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I can send you some Black Opal from Fothergil's to grow alongside as a comparison?
Yes please, that would be nice and useful :wave:
Scratch that - I hadn't yet read Jeannine's post before replying to your earlier seed offer.
So they are OP :toothy10: Brill! Would therefore like to stick seeds into this year's seed parcel for everybody. Had one plant from JayB :sunny: and one that I subsequently took as cutting from the first plant. Both are fruiting. JayB, would you like to do a combined seedsave on this one like last year on the Black Icicle?
I had one early fruiting truss in the greenhouse, then nothing for a while, then lots of them late August/September and still going. The trusses are very large.
The plant from the rooted sideshoot was fruiting much later- late September and still going. So far resisting blight outdoors well.
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JayB, would you like to do a combined seedsave on this one like last year on the Black Icicle?
Be happy to :happy7: I've got one batch drying (I've already offered some in the swap) and I've just put some more Black Opal to ferment to make sure I have plenty to share.
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I cant remember if I signed up for this seed swap earlier this year,I have some cucumber,tomato a few cabbage and leek seeds,also some jalapeno chilli pepper seeds if anyone wants some.There will probably be some other different stuff when I get round to checking on things too,i will let you know what else there is.
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A question if I may, I have podded some of the Birds Egg CFb now all the seeds are cream with 20% red markings but one pod the seeds are 95% red with tiny cream speckles , I grew them at home and not near other beans. Have I done something wrong ?
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A question if I may, I have podded some of the Birds Egg CFb now all the seeds are cream with 20% red markings but one pod the seeds are 95% red with tiny cream speckles , I grew them at home and not near other beans. Have I done something wrong ?
Nope....for some reason these 'funny' colourings do happen and the off spring from those are most likely come out 'as usual'.
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Many thanks goodlife . Unlike last year I shall have a decent amount for you all.
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Many thanks goodlife . Unlike last year I shall have a decent amount for you all.
:icon_cheers: :toothy10:
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Is it too early to re-introduce Sharks Fin Melon to the list? I have a bunch of them from a single plant, oh, and a lovely unnamed large Marrow which finishes a beautiful green and yellow/orange colour and is a great roaster. :)
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Hi
I'm new to this so hope I'm in the right place. I have, firstly, plenty of seed saved from a very good year with my District Nurse heritage climbing French beans. For those who don't know they produce very vigorous plants - over 8 ft tall plant - and are excellent croppers of flat, succulent pods heavily flushed with purple. The flavour and tenderness are, in my opinion, excellent too. They freeze well and produce finely mottled seeds which are really good for bean cooking. My mate sent me 8 seeds which all germinated well. I am happy to do the same in small packets. I have plenty drying off at the moment so they will be ready in a month or so.
Does anyone have any of the purple pea variety called Lancashire Lad. The HSL have stopped doing them in favour of an older but green Lancashire Lad that they say is the genuine original of this variety.
Thank
Rob
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Please do put the shark's fin in. If people have it already they can always swop it again. Mine were still in pots when I did my back in., so I ended up losing the seed.
The old Lancashire Lad is a good pea, but I no longer have seed. The new one would be more than welcome as well, of course, if anyone has any!
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YOHOOO!? :wave:
Are we getting ready yet for bagging and sending seeds forward? Do we know total number of members for this years circle?
Little update.. White Cherokee corn didn't make it.. :BangHead: The cobs did get pollinated well but they didn't mature enough. If only the spring would have been slightly warmer and slightly earlier so I could have got the plants growing that little bit better early on...having longer autumn didn't compensate :BangHead:
I was also promising some hulless pumpkin seeds for swap...well...I opened the hand pollinated ones and the seeds inside weren't what I was expecting...and those pumpkins that were left to bees to pollinate had loooooovely seeds inside...something went wrong there :icon_scratch:
BUT...I have squashes that I have pollinated and just cut open one of them...TONS of lovely plump seeds!! :icon_cheers:..and (burb!) the squash was lovely too :toothy10:
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I'm in this year, not done too badly, mainly thanks to Galina who gave me beans to grow on for the circle after all my disasters. Will have time next week to get the packing up done!!
So relieved to actually have something to send in! And am getting organised for next year with some overwintering cauliflowers in the greenhouse so I do not have to worry about cross pollination. :happy7:
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Have been cutting into the Striped Custard Marrow squashes last week. Had 3 isolated/handpollinated fruits, one only has ten good seeds, but the others have many more plump seeds. So, there are enough for all in the circle :wave: Given that these are meant to be a summer squash, I was pleasantly surprised how nice they taste now. Their light yellow sweet flesh is much denser than courgettes and they are fibreless.
Yesterday I harvested the last Mouse Melons aka Melothria Scabra. After the first sowing was decimated by slugs, the second attempt made good growth. Once these got going, they were quite rampant although the plants are very slender. They were squashed into a corner in the greenhouse, but they don't mind a bit of crowding and gave lots of fruits for many weeks. Not sure what the best method for harvesting seed is. I have fermented one batch and washed, then air dried another. Will put a mixture of both into the packets for the circle.
Hope we all had a much better year and a good seed harvest. As always some things will not have worked out, that's too bad but it happens.
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I have the seeds ready all in lines for counting and they look lovely. So much potential from such tiny things bit of a miracle that.
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I'm still trying to get seed dried off.
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I have started listing what I can offer in Jayb's seed blog that goes with this circle - our own virtual seed catalogue and growing reference booklet. It lists all the varieties we have shared over the years, together with some mouth watering photos, extra information and an introduction to this seed sharing circle. At the bottom of the year listings are also several helpful urls for seed saving information.
https://sites.google.com/site/seedsharingcircle/home
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Hi
Could you add the Seed Saving in Schools booklet to that list of links; it's one of the things I worked on a couple of years back?
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/pdfs/Seed-Saving-in-Schools.pdf
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I have done 16 packs .Does that sound about right?
Only one variety packed up to date!
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I have done 16 packs .Does that sound about right?
Only one variety packed up to date!
Don't it feel great when things go to plan and you find that you have seeds to share.. :icon_cheers:
I was hoping Jayb would be able to confirm the 'numbers' before I start doing any packing, but your 16 cannot be that far off.
I've been starting to look though seedsites...not bought any new seeds yet...Plan is and I'm firmly sticking to it, to wait until circle's parcel has been put together and then see what I should still 'need' for next year :angel11:
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Hi
Could you add the Seed Saving in Schools booklet to that list of links; it's one of the things I worked on a couple of years back?
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/pdfs/Seed-Saving-in-Schools.pdf
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I have already added that link two years ago.
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Hi
Could you add the Seed Saving in Schools booklet to that list of links; it's one of the things I worked on a couple of years back?
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/pdfs/Seed-Saving-in-Schools.pdf
???
I have already added that link two years ago.
Oh, I can't see it...on here I meant
https://sites.google.com/site/seedsharingcircle/link
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All seed saving information is located together in one place, at the bottom of each year page so that everybody can read about the theory of what they would like to grow for the circle that year. As this blog is a collaborative effort, everybody in the group can be put on edit privileges by Jayb and add or correct.
For 2013 the info reads:
Seed Saving Information:
http://www.howtosaveseeds.com/seedsavingdetails.php#beans
At the bottom of most pages in the Real Seed Catalogue are seed saving instructions with pictures:
http://www.realseeds.co.uk/wintersquash.html
and here some of the basics:
http://www.realseeds.co.uk/seedsavinginfo.html
Seed saving instructions from Heritage Seed Library:
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/members/seed_saving/
Seed Saving for Schools from Heritage Seed Library, but there is very good information for everybody, not just students:
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/pdfs/Seed-Saving-in-Schools.pdf
Brief guidelines - their list of selfpollinated vegetables are the easy ones for seedsaving beginners. however 'beans' is too unspecific because runnerbeans and broadbeans cross quite a lot and only one variety should be grown or the flowers should be bagged and handpollinated in an allotment situation where there are lots of other runnerbeans and broadbeans around. French beans can cross, but it does not happen too often:
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/garden/07602.html
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Sorry all, I've not been too good for a while, but on the up now, thank goodness! Will be updating very shortly, I think best to send seeds beginning of Jan.
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beginning of jan. is fine by me,just recover, your health is much more important than that round robin. :wave: :wave:
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Fine by me; I've got everything dried that isn't going to rot (my runner bean seeds were a disaster), so I can soon sort out what to send. How many people are on the list this year?
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Fine here too, take it easy and enjoy Christmas.
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Cheers all :happy7:
I'm working on numbers now, get back to you as soon as poss.
Gosh Christmas has come up quickly, just around the corner now :toothy10:
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Which will give me time to do some colouring in of seed packets.
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I am afraid that I have to give up on my offer of Shark's Fin Melon. I've cut up a couple (still the 2012 ones) and I really do not think the seed is viable. Although I have 6 more!! I cannot keep cutting them up until used the mountain of flesh from the last one.
However my contribution - all bagged up and ready are
Brighstone Dwarf French bean (original from Galina)
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/assets/hsl/dwarf_french_bean_brighstone.jpg
The bean comes from the IOW where it was supposed to have come ashore after a shipwreck and grown there for many years (HSL info)
District Nurse climbing French bean (original from Galina)
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/assets/hsl/cfb_district_nurse.jpg
Given to a district Nurse by an elderly lady in Cardiff
Pretty lilac flowers followed by dramatically coloured pods, green splashed with blue (HSL info)
Purple Tepee dwarf French bean (Dobies) I like this variety because it is easy to germinate and reliable. Lovely black pods which go dark green when cooked
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plants/plant_finder/images/large_db_pics/large/vebea2385_2.jpg (BBC)
Black sugarsweet Turnip (HSL) interesting dark colour almost like the snake skin maple! I failed the first year as where I live turnips are winter veg and swedes the summer one, so I grew it in the wrong season. Last year it did well as a spring sowing. I believe I did a good job in netting the plants so hopefully they will be true, but as you know I am new to this seed saving stuff and it is the first brassica I have tried to save- so please "rogue out" any oddities
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I'll be glad to get District Nurse. I had some seed a few years ago but none of it generated. It's been an odd year; don't worry about the shark's fin seed.
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:BangHead:
Sorry guys.... I went offline unexpectedly. I had a bit of a melt-down.
I feel like I have let the whole lot of you down...
I'll make up for it whenever I can. I still have the seeds...
Next year maybe?
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Hi all
Where are we with this? I need to know whether to reserve seeds for this circle or to add to other circles.
*I am happy to do the admin for this circle if JayB can't do it at the moment - just let me know.
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Hi all
Where are we with this? I need to know whether to reserve seeds for this circle or to add to other circles.
*I am happy to do the admin for this circle if JayB can't do it at the moment - just let me know.
No, it hasn't happened yet Nigel. Jayb was unwell and postponed it to January. I pm'ed her a week or so ago and offered my assistance, but I haven't heard back yet. Does anybody know how Jayb is?
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She has not been on here for a couple of days.
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I hope she's OK.
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Sorry all, I've had some sort of a bug. Just catching up on A4A :wave:
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Glad you're OK!
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Oh excellent! :icon_cheers:
JayB, I can't find your address. If you wouldn't mind pm'ing it to me I'll get my end sorted.
So pleased I haven't missed this. :)
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Glad things are looking up, jayb. :happy7:
Have I missed the final numbers? I was banking on around twenty.
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If we work on 14 packets of seeds to send in, hope that's ok with everyone. I'll pm my address and details tomorrow. Exciting :toothy10:
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Hurrah!
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:sad5:
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:sad5:
Why sad? There's plenty of time for planting yet. :icon_cheers:
Thanks for all the work you do to organise it.
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OK, 14 packets of each type of seed it is. Filling and labelling here as fast as I can. Will send you the seeds asap Jayb. If we all do this, the swap returns could be received by mid to late February and that is still plenty early for sowing.
I am putting the seeds into a large, padded, self addressed/stamped envelope (which is my return envelope), and use an outer sleeve on top, with your address on, to send to you. Thank you for your PM with all the information.
So happy that this is going ahead. Thank you Jayb.
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Getting excited now!! Will post parcel tomorrow .
Thank-you Jayb
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My seeds are in packets too and ready for the send off.. :icon_cheers:...hopefully I get them posted tomorrow.
And then I start looking to 'fill in' the info on our list. Unfortunately I wasn't organized enough to take photos...so only some has entry with pic.
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Mine are all parcelled up ready, will post tomorrow.
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Mine are all parcelled up ready, will post tomorrow.
:icon_cheers: :toothy10:
...just posted mine!
..and there is some tomato-, pepper-, cucumber-, lettuce- and onion seeds..oh, and beans too..
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Done. :happy7:
My grand-kids 'helped', so I'm sorry if they leak seeds or whatnot, but that's what grand-kids are for, isn't it? :glasses9:
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Done. Have you warned the postman Jayb ?
P.s have you seen the " dedicated" seed envelopes in Wilkos?
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I need to get to the allotment and pick up some of my seeds, but I haven't been well the last few days. The rat-tailed radish seeds are fine, and so are the peas, but the only bean I saved this year which seems to have a decent germination rate is Trail of Tears, and it's probably too soon to put that in again. The others are smelly and nasty, and about one in six is viable!
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When does the seed circle for 2014 start? I'm interested in joining in this year...
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:sad5:
Why sad? There's plenty of time for planting yet. :icon_cheers:
Thanks for all the work you do to organise it.
Because I've taken so long. But yes plenty of time for planting
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When does the seed circle for 2014 start? I'm interested in joining in this year...
If people are interested in another seed circle we can start pretty soon :happy7: I've already short-listed a few varieties I'd like to grow for it!
I haven't put up a thread yet as I thought it might be best to round this one up first? Although I can get one started if people are itchy to get their names down :blob7:
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OK, 14 packets of each type of seed it is. Filling and labelling here as fast as I can. Will send you the seeds asap Jayb. If we all do this, the swap returns could be received by mid to late February and that is still plenty early for sowing.
I'm going to suggest Feb 15th as a closing date to get your parcels to me. I can put everyone's ready that weekend and post on the Monday.
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Getting excited now!! Will post parcel tomorrow .
Thank-you Jayb
Yes definitely getting excited now :icon_cheers:
And then I start looking to 'fill in' the info on our list. Unfortunately I wasn't organized enough to take photos...so only some has entry with pic.
No worries about pictures, always nice when we have them but any info gratefully received :wave:
Done. Have you warned the postman Jayb ?
P.s have you seen the " dedicated" seed envelopes in Wilkos?
No I thought I'd surprise him! Luckily he's very good.
I've not been to Wilkos in ages, what are they like?
I need to get to the allotment and pick up some of my seeds, but I haven't been well the last few days. The rat-tailed radish seeds are fine, and so are the peas, but the only bean I saved this year which seems to have a decent germination rate is Trail of Tears, and it's probably too soon to put that in again. The others are smelly and nasty, and about one in six is viable!
No rush Robert, when you are able :wave: I've suggested a cut of date of Feb 15 to have received seed parcels by, is this ok for you? I lost some bean seeds too it was just too wet. Peas and rat tails will be just fab, you could always add some beans next year if you are joining in again.
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If people are interested in another seed circle we can start pretty soon :happy7: I've already short-listed a few varieties I'd like to grow for it!
I haven't put up a thread yet as I thought it might be best to round this one up first? Although I can get one started if people are itchy to get their names down
:wave: When you are ready... count me in! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-char094.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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3 parcels received, brought by nice mr postie :icon_cheers:
From-
Goodlife
Markfield Rover and
Nigel
:icon_cheers: :blob7: :blob6: :blob9: :blob10: :blob5: :blob7: :toothy9:
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Gosh...postie has been busy swimmers... :tongue3: That was quick!
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Just finished packing here and the seeds will go in the post tomorrow. Don't worry Robert. As it happens I have grown out the rare white seeded Cherokee Trail of Tears this year to renew my seed stock and ended up with plenty for everybody in the circle. This is a mutation that happened well over a decade ago now in Mr Yeoman's garden. A couple of other beans, peas, tomatoes, lettuce, melothria and a pattypan squash for the circle.
Yes please, sign me up for 2014 too.
This is getting exciting indeed. But at this stage I have absolutely no idea what to grow for next year's circle. Well maybe, the long promised salad burnet herb will actually produce seeds . Oh and the rare pea Sugar Lord, resurrected from near extinction by goodlife :wave:
I will also complete my little variety descriptions on the mini-catalogue over the next few days. If anybody has difficulty uploading their information or photos, I am happy to help.
This is what has been uploaded so far:
https://sites.google.com/site/seedsharingcircle/seed-parcel/seed-parcel-2013
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Gosh...postie has been busy swimmers... :tongue3: That was quick!
Must be quicker by boat
:fish:
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Mine went in the post today :icon_cheers:
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My seeds are in packets too and ready for the send off.. :icon_cheers:...hopefully I get them posted tomorrow.
And then I start looking to 'fill in' the info on our list. Unfortunately I wasn't organized enough to take photos...so only some has entry with pic.
Should have rushed too much....I've got couple of more lots of seeds in house, peas, that were grown for the circle... :BangHead:
I will get them in post soon.....
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Hope to get mine in the post by the weekend. :happy7:
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I unpacked and sorted some fantastic seeds yesterday :wave: Lovely, lovely selection already!
Markfield Rovers seed packets are just beautiful :happy7:
Mine went in the post today :icon_cheers:
Should have rushed too much....I've got couple of more lots of seeds in house, peas, that were grown for the circle... :BangHead:
I will get them in post soon.....
Hope to get mine in the post by the weekend. :happy7:
Brilliant, I'll update when they arrive :wave:
Goodlife, you are really spoiling us now :drunken_smilie:
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EEEKKK!...I'm cracking up...I just realized, it is only Friday today :drunken_smilie: I've been day ahead two days...today it was supposed to be Saturday :drunken_smilie: :BangHead:
But the good news is, that now I can get to bag those peas bagged up and in post to arrive to Jayb that little bit sooner.. :icon_cheers:
I must have some seeds germinating in my brain for getting the 'internal calendar' in such a mess....
Edit to add 1. ...yes..sounds like 'cracking up' response to what I've previously typed..little explanation= I sent PM to Jayb and told that 'I get the rest of the seeds bagged over weekend'... :drunken_smilie:
Looks like those strong antibiotics that I'm taking for my poorly wisdom tooth do have some side effect after all....
edit to add 2. I managed to add into image list couple of pepper photos....but I just don't seem to get it right into actual list...could somebody have a look and sort it for me..I'm not even attempting any more editing while I'm like this...I might wipe the whole lot off.. :drunken_smilie:
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edit to add 2. I managed to add into image list couple of pepper photos....but I just don't seem to get it right into actual list...could somebody have a look and sort it for me..I'm not even attempting any more editing while I'm like this...I might wipe the whole lot off.. :drunken_smilie:
Don't worry, I have found a couple of pepper pictures and added them. Would you please check that it all looks right? If not, I will correct.
I did the same last year, sent all seeds and then found that one variety was not added. I can confirm that JayB will take later additions :wave: hope you feel better soon.
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The second parcel is posted...
There is nothing like treatment with wind and rain to clear one's 'foggy' brain.. :icon_cheers:
Phoaaw...I hope that parcel doesn't get drowned..... IT IS WET out there!
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Would you please check that it all looks right?
Thank you!..you've done it! :icon_cheers:
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Thank you!..you've done it! :icon_cheers:
Good.
also my seeds are now in the post too. :wave:
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Me again...."cough".. :glasses9:
I loaded Cuban black tomato photo, could I have that added into list please?
I just cannot get my head around it why the image do not come 'right' when I try to add it on the list...??? :BangHead:
Oh well...
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Me again...."cough".. :glasses9:
I loaded Cuban black tomato photo, could I have that added into list please?
I just cannot get my head around it why the image do not come 'right' when I try to add it on the list...??? :BangHead:
Oh well...
Don't worry, It is a 2-step process. First upload the picture to the website, then go to the place in the text where the picture is to go and upload add the picture into the text. Last step (if the picture is too big) is to click on the picture and a task bar comes up and you select size M (medium) from the task bar. Then 'save' all your work and you are done.
I will have a look and add the picture of Cuban Black if you haven't done it yet.
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Am I added as able to edit the web document? If so, I seem to be too stupid to remember how to do it.
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Am I added as able to edit the web document? If so, I seem to be too stupid to remember how to do it.
Don't know whether you are added. When you are, go to the site, to 2013 seed parcel page, at the top of the page is a pencil button which starts your edit. Made your additions, then press save.
Give it a try.
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Me again...."cough".. :glasses9:
I loaded Cuban black tomato photo, could I have that added into list please?
I just cannot get my head around it why the image do not come 'right' when I try to add it on the list...??? :BangHead:
Oh well...
Don't worry, It is a 2-step process. First upload the picture to the website, then go to the place in the text where the picture is to go and upload add the picture into the text. Last step (if the picture is too big) is to click on the picture and a task bar comes up and you select size M (medium) from the task bar. Then 'save' all your work and you are done.
I will have a look and add the picture of Cuban Black if you haven't done it yet.
I did load the Cuban black into image 'gallery'...it is that last step that doesn't work...I can put the picture for the correct place but there doesn't come any task bars to alter the size...I'm just stuck with enormous photo. There has been other few things with the document editing that haven't quite worked out and been having problems. Maybe it is my computer....I just don't have the energy nor mental capacity now to dive into small details. Last night I already spent several hours clearing some unwanted 'free stuff' from my puter, 'stuff' that wasn't supposed to be loaded there in first place... :BangHead:..just one click from finger and these 'freebies' too over... :BangHead:
ARGGGH :angry4: I think I've managed to solve that 'not so little problem' out..
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Am I added as able to edit the web document? If so, I seem to be too stupid to remember how to do it.
Don't know whether you are added. When you are, go to the site, to 2013 seed parcel page, at the top of the page is a pencil button which starts your edit. Made your additions, then press save.
Give it a try.
I have tried to add mine but there is no pencil, so I guess that I cannot. I remember being able to add to the document when Jayb used googledocs a few years ago, but this nice new version will not let me.
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Am I added as able to edit the web document? If so, I seem to be too stupid to remember how to do it.
It's not you, I've just checked and you don't appear to be on there, if you'd like to pm me your email address, I'll add you on.
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I have tried to add mine but there is no pencil, so I guess that I cannot. I remember being able to add to the document when Jayb used googledocs a few years ago, but this nice new version will not let me.
Missed this, same thing pm me your email and I'll add you on :happy7:
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:sad5:
Why sad? There's plenty of time for planting yet. :icon_cheers:
Thanks for all the work you do to organise it.
Because I've taken so long. But yes plenty of time for planting
Not a problem, we will not be doing much this weekend!!
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Sorry Goodlife, either my internet connection is on a go slow with all the rain or Google sites is being way too sticky to find your picture and load it. I'll see if I can do it another way.
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The 15th should be fine. I haven't been to the allotment all week thanks to the weather, but I'll sort the peas out long before then.
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Sorry Goodlife, either my internet connection is on a go slow with all the rain or Google sites is being way too sticky to find your picture and load it. I'll see if I can do it another way.
Um..I probably didn't explain correctly... photo is in 'uploaded images' list on the 2013 list.
I'll have another 'play' and see what' going on....
Edit to add... Who's done it?..the photo is where it is supposed to be.. :icon_cheers: :notworthy:
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Edit to add... Who's done it?..the photo is where it is supposed to be.. :icon_cheers: :notworthy:
JayB has, I guess, we were out shopping and visiting MIL. Looking good :sunny:
Our internet today has been very difficult as well - last day of making tax returns?
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Hello everybody,this weekend i will sort out what to send to the round robin.Jaybe if you hear a big bang on the doormat it will be my package. :wave: :wave: :wave:Bytheway how long it takes depands on how quick is the pigeon.:
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Hello everybody,this weekend i will sort out what to send to the round robin.Jaybe if you hear a big bang on the doormat it will be my package. :wave: :wave: :wave:Bytheway how long it takes depands on how quick is the pigeon.:
looking forward to it Ruud :wave:
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The 15th should be fine. I haven't been to the allotment all week thanks to the weather, but I'll sort the peas out long before then.
Brilliant
Edit to add... Who's done it?..the photo is where it is supposed to be.. :icon_cheers: :notworthy:
JayB has, I guess,
It was me :wave:
I'm still having problems viewing the uploaded pictures file, about half are just blurry and won't load? I hope you don't mind Goodlife, I copied your picture to my puter and made the file size a bit smaller and then uploaded it again, seemed to work. I've been adding mine straight from flicker as most of them were already there. I haven't found one of Green Zebra yet though!
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Hello everybody,this weekend i will sort out what to send to the round robin.Jaybe if you hear a big bang on the doormat it will be my package. :wave: :wave: :wave:Bytheway how long it takes depands on how quick is the pigeon.:
:wave: Hi Ruud, good to hear from you. They are usually fairly quick coming from you, around a week perhaps. There was that parcel in Jeannine's swap you posted back to me that got opened by customs before they sent it on and that did take a while!
Exciting stuff, best get packing my seeds ready too :blob7:
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Oooowie postie just been :icon_cheers:
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JayB, You are a blinking star lass! :angel13: Fair doos.
This is no small amount of work you do on behalf of others :angel11:
I just wanted to let you know you're appreciated.... Muchly. :love4:
Many thanks indeed for your efforts. :toothy4:
A a very grateful, Nigel. :icon_flower:
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Aw shucks, made me blush! Thanks Nigel, much appreciated :happy7:
But really the thanks is to each and everyone taking part which makes it all possible :sunny:
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More fantastic seeds arrived today, thanks to Ian, Galina, Pumpkinlover and Goodlife :blob7:
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Hi, Just to let you know that the seeds went into the post today - they should be with you on Tuesday! :happy7:
Should I be able to edit the seed circle document, jayb?
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Great, thanks SueK :wave:
Should I be able to edit the seed circle document, jayb?
I don't think I have your email, if you would pm it to me I'll add you on.
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Don't worry, It is a 2-step process. First upload the picture to the website, then go to the place in the text where the picture is to go and upload add the picture into the text. Last step (if the picture is too big) is to click on the picture and a task bar comes up and you select size M (medium) from the task bar. Then 'save' all your work and you are done.
Have uploaded another photo and this is how it works. When the large photo appears, go to the bottom left corner of the photo with the scroll bars, then click into photo and you will see the task bar, which gives you the option for S M L photos. If you are looking at other places in a large photo, that task bar is there, but hidden from view.
By the way, when the photo is clicked, although it is very large, it still has 'handles' ie dots in the corners, which you can click and drag to make the picture smaller in the same way as you make any other picture smaller. For example, drag the top right dot towards bottom left direction will make the picture smaller. This is what I used to do before I discovered the task bar.
Hope this helps.
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I added little packet of seeds as 'extra'...some French Marigold ones. 'Somebody' got bit carried away with saving them...there was that many in flowerbed in work and I just couldn't let them all go waste :glasses9:
I hope they will bring a little bit of :sunny: in your gardens and attract plenty of (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-char102.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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I have posted up thread about my seeds, please can someone add it onto the Document as I cannot do it (despite Jayb's help!)
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I have posted up thread about my seeds, please can someone add it onto the Document as I cannot do it (despite Jayb's help!)
I've added you on again, when you receive email to confirm click on the link to Seed Circle, fingers crossed :happy7:
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Jayb ,sorry for delay, the wilkos seed packets are the very small brown envelope the dinner money size ones with writing on ie seed type, date etc can not remember the price but they were a lot cheaper than any others I've seen.
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Jayb ,sorry for delay, the wilkos seed packets are the very small brown envelope the dinner money size ones with writing on ie seed type, date etc can not remember the price but they were a lot cheaper than any others I've seen.
http://www.wilko.com/seed-trays-plant-pots+planters/wilko-get-gardening-seed-pack-envelopes-x-20/invt/0339845?VBMST=seed envelopes
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Thanks goodlife , I like them because they are not too 'life styleee' . Have you seen the packets that the chap from Higgledygarden.com produces, and such a lovely site, enter at your peril!!
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I bought mine on the internet they were a lot cheaper as they were school dinner money packets. Ok for intended use but not very good for the seeds so had to sellotape as well.
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Yes the Sellotape is an issue , there is someone here who does origami packets that really work, the only other packets I might look into are those you use for diamonds and precious stones.
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I buy brown seed envelopes to store my seeds in....just like the wilko's ones but blank. They are not expensive but like PL said...they need little bit of cellotape on corners for smaller seeds.
Zip lock bags that I send my seeds in for circle are not expensive neither...not ideal for long term storage, but they are lighter and take less room for posting.
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I fold my own. Easy to do - a few at a time. I prefer paper, just in case of any residual dampness.
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I fold my own. Easy to do - a few at a time. I prefer paper, just in case of any residual dampness.
This comment stayed in my head when I was tidying up desk draws...and then I saw some pink paper that I had forgotten...
And now I've got one lot of seed envelopes ready for circle's next 'call out'..PINK! :icon_cheers:
And they are looking very cheery from normal brown or clear plastic ones....must do more and different colours too..hmmm...I must dig deeper, who knows what I have stashed away... :glasses9:
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I do the origami packets, but I use ziplock bags as well for small seeds. They're really cheap on ebay.
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I'm getting there slowly. I've parcelled up two peas so far; Robinson, which is a tall wrinkled pea, and Mummy White, a very rare one. It seems to have been popular around the 1820's, and then effectively disappeared. It survived in the States, and I managed to get some seed from there last year. It's a crown pea, with white flowers and small round peas. Then there's Munchen Bier, a rat-tailed radish, and I should be able to manage one or two more peas.
I don't have access to the seed swap page, by the way, so at the moment I can't add anything to it.
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Okee the pigeon is on his way. :blob7: :blob7: :blob7:
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SueK's parcel landed last week :icon_cheers:
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I added little packet of seeds as 'extra'...some French Marigold ones. 'Somebody' got bit carried away with saving them...there was that many in flowerbed in work and I just couldn't let them all go waste :glasses9:
I hope they will bring a little bit of :sunny: in your gardens and attract plenty of (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-char102.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
If they look a quarter as good as the ones in the picture they will be smashing :sunny:
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I have posted up thread about my seeds, please can someone add it onto the Document as I cannot do it (despite Jayb's help!)
Done, can you check it is how you want it to look.
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I'm getting there slowly. I've parcelled up two peas so far; Robinson, which is a tall wrinkled pea, and Mummy White, a very rare one. It seems to have been popular around the 1820's, and then effectively disappeared. It survived in the States, and I managed to get some seed from there last year. It's a crown pea, with white flowers and small round peas. Then there's Munchen Bier, a rat-tailed radish, and I should be able to manage one or two more peas.
I don't have access to the seed swap page, by the way, so at the moment I can't add anything to it.
I'm really keen to grow your Mummy Crown peas :icon_cheers: I was hooked on Crown peas the first time I grew Salmon Flowered.
I should have several types/colours of Crown peas this year to compare :sunny:
I've added you on again, if you click through the link in the email it should work fine.
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Okee the pigeon is on his way. :blob7: :blob7: :blob7:
Watching out for the pigeon :toothy12:
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OHHHH....."are we there yet?!" :toothy10:
Ok...I'll wait patiently..... :angel11: I try not to look at the seed list in advance...it is much more interesting to "ohh & ahh" all the goodies when they arrive. My tummy is tingling with the excitement already! :blob7:
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I have done my bit on the document - sorry if I have stopped anyone else working on it, it has taken longer than I expected. Very exciting, though! :happy7:
Jayb, I'm sorry to create extra work for you, but is there any chance you could fix the two links I tried to put in for the two tomato varieties yabloki na snegu and sibirskiy skorospelyi? They are in as plain text - when I tried inserting links I couldn't get it to work.
Sue
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Thanks Sue, information is great :happy7: I've put in links for you, hope they are as you wanted. I wonder if the picture for Yabloki Na Snegu needs a quarter tweek?
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I have done my bit on the document - sorry if I have stopped anyone else working on it, it has taken longer than I expected. Very exciting, though! :happy7:
Sue
looking good Sue, thank you. And thank you Robert. It's getting soooooooooooooo exciting :blob7:
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I've added Latvian Pea. We're getting there!
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Got the seeds posted. I'll add details to the document later.
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What a coincidence; I was just thinking that now I live on the Isle of Wight, I really should try the local bean, 'Brighstone'. An internet search reveals that no-one is selling it in the UK this year. Drat. Then I find out that it is going to be in the seed parcel. Yayyy! Thank you Pumpkinlover.
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:icon_cheers:
Robert's and Ruud's parcel both arrived and have been sorted into individual parcels.
I've not heard back from a few people?
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I'll add details to the document later.
Thanks Robert :wave:
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What a coincidence; I was just thinking that now I live on the Isle of Wight, I really should try the local bean, 'Brighstone'. An internet search reveals that no-one is selling it in the UK this year. Drat. Then I find out that it is going to be in the seed parcel. Yayyy! Thank you Pumpkinlover.
Result :sunny:
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What a coincidence; I was just thinking that now I live on the Isle of Wight, I really should try the local bean, 'Brighstone'. An internet search reveals that no-one is selling it in the UK this year. Drat. Then I find out that it is going to be in the seed parcel. Yayyy! Thank you Pumpkinlover.
And Thank you to Galina as she gave me the original seeds ! ☺
Result :sunny:
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What a coincidence; I was just thinking that now I live on the Isle of Wight, I really should try the local bean, 'Brighstone'. An internet search reveals that no-one is selling it in the UK this year. Drat. Then I find out that it is going to be in the seed parcel. Yayyy! Thank you Pumpkinlover.
And Thank you to Galina as she gave me the original seeds ! ☺
Result :sunny:
And thanks to JayB who gave me my initial packet of this lovely variety. :wave:
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What a coincidence; I was just thinking that now I live on the Isle of Wight, I really should try the local bean, 'Brighstone'. An internet search reveals that no-one is selling it in the UK this year. Drat. Then I find out that it is going to be in the seed parcel. Yayyy! Thank you Pumpkinlover.
And Thank you to Galina as she gave me the original seeds ! ☺
Result :sunny:
And thanks to JayB who gave me my initial packet of this lovely variety. :wave:
So now they have gone back to Jayb!!
Hey I thought allotment gardening was about reducing food miles. :walk:
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So now they have gone back to Jayb!!
It is called 'full circle' (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy006.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) :icon_cheers: :drunken_smilie:
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So now they have gone back to Jayb!!
It is called 'full circle' (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy006.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) :icon_cheers: :drunken_smilie:
Lol
I had the seeds originally from HSL - which takes us back to Ian and the Isle of Wight!
Circles within circles :drunken_smilie:
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Unless I hear from anyone still to send in their seeds, parcels will be going out on Monday :icon_cheers: :blob7:
Yayyyyyy I get to open my parcel sssssoon :blob7:
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I must remember to do that; I've had a bit of a mad week.
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I've posted some details of the varieties I sent on the seed sharing site, but for some reason it wouldn't let me post pics to the page.
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Okee than i have something to do after my chirgery .Will have plenty of time recovering. :wave: :wave: :wave:
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I've posted some details of the varieties I sent on the seed sharing site, but for some reason it wouldn't let me post pics to the page.
Okee than i have something to do after my chirgery .Will have plenty of time recovering. :wave: :wave: :wave:
Hope everything goes well and you will be tip top in no time :wave:
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I've posted some details of the varieties I sent on the seed sharing site, but for some reason it wouldn't let me post pics to the page.
I'm not sure why it wouldn't let you, I find the insert picture very slow to upload so have done mine from flickr. If you want to email me your pictures I'll do my best to insert them.
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Apologies, parcels missed Mondays post but are winging their way to you as I write. They should start hitting the mat tomorrow morning :blob7:
Can I open mine yet :toothy12:
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Can I open mine yet :toothy12:
Well..if you can't wait any longer...YES!
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Get well soon Ruud!
Well it's going to be :sunny: when that envelope arrives, whatever the weather. :wave:
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Well the gift that just keeps giving, it's here ! And none of the stamps are franked, ohh could use for 2014 parcel. Iam going out so am going to keep it for later just me the parcel and a huge pot of tea,does it get any better?
Thank you very much Jayb and galina and to everyone else for making this a success, biodiversity is alive and kicking, in spite of the legislators .
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:icon_cheers:
And next years envelope :glasses9:
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ARRRGH... :BangHead: And I took dog for walk early to be in home when postie comes..missed it... :BangHead:
Well..I just have to bare it for another couple of hours and then nip out and fetch it.
It is going to be FUUUUUN afternoon.... :toothy10:
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Noooooooo (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/ohmy.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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Postie John rang the doorbell!!! Why? You've got one guess ............................... :sunny:
Thank you everybody! Haven't looked at the great seeds yet, but wanted to say THANKYOU to everybody for their contribution to this great seed circle. :angel11:
Now off to look and drool ........................ :blob7:
And what seeds would your post office like JayB? They are obviously supporting this event :tongue3: I can reuse my envelope too.
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Yayyy :icon_cheers: finally I can open mine :toothy10:
And what seeds would your post office like JayB? They are obviously supporting this event :tongue3: I can reuse my envelope too.
What a bargain :icon_cheers:
They are very nice people :happy7:
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thanks galina and jayb,i am just home from hospital and it went well.Left arm in bandage so i am now an one armed gardener for the time it takes to recover.Let the parcel have a quick journey across the pond.I have plenty of time now to plan everything on the allotment.
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Guess what was waiting for me when I got home???! :toothy10:
Thank you so much, everyone. Currently perusing contents with a cuppa: such visual and tactile appeal, with so much effort having gone into it. What a grand way to spend the afternoon! :coffee2:
Sue
PS I can't wait to show the boys.
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WHOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! :icon_cheers:
The great 'elephant' has landed! (eagle is just not big and bulky enough).
I have just made myself :coffee2:...been for a walk with dog, again...outdoor job for today is nearly done and I can have well earned coffee and seed 'oogling' break :toothy10:
Great job everybody...and thank you again Jayb! :icon_thumleft:
I'm glad I have hold off my seed shopping urges..no need for it now.. :icon_cheers: ....for now.. :tongue3:
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Oh..just noticed something....did I send too many seed packets? I got lot of my own back? Or has somebody been left out ?
I've got gherkins...peppers...lettuce...toms...w.onions...broadbeans...squash.... anybody?
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Ooops! sounds like I've goofed :BangHead:
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Ooops! sounds like I've goofed :BangHead:
Its not a problem...once somebody will put claim on them...I shall pop them in post..
I would be surprised if you didn't get something wrong..sorting all those seed into different lots will take some doing.
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Do you know what are you missing goodlife?
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Do you know what are you missing goodlife?
I didn't know I was missing anything...there is so many packets already.. :icon_cheers:...I'll have a look...
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Okie dokie :happy7:
If it helps
Robert B, Peas: Robinson, Mummy White, Latvian Pea, Munchen Bier
Goodlife, Welsh onion (Allium fistulosum), Lettuce Soulie and Spotted Cos, Gherkin Vjaznikovsky 37, Pepper Macedonian Sweet, Tomato Cuban Black, Squash Blue Banana, Broad bean Hangdown, Peas Mr. Big and Thomas Laxton, French Marigold.
Galina; Lettuce Mescher, Melothria scabra, aka mouse melon or Mexican Sour gherkin, Climbing French Beans 'Mr Yeoman's White seeded Cherokee Trail of Tears' and 'McCaslan', Dwarf French Bean 'Black Valentine', Tomatoes 'Ester Hess Yellow Cherry', 'Black Opal', 'Old Red Cherry' and 'Millie Yoder's Little Grape'. Pea 'Swallow' and Mangetout Pea 'Norli'. Patty Pan Squash 'Striped Custard Marrow',
Markfield Rover, Climbing French bean Bird's Egg, Tomato; Stump of the World, Homosa, Tibet Appel, Bijskij-Zeltyi, Herb Sweet Cicely.
jayb, tomato Green Zebra, Choy Sum Red Stem - Brassica rapa – chinensis, Ethiopian Kale/Highland Kale - Brassica carinata, Glass Gem Corn, Bay Tree (Laurus nobilis), French bean Suess Becker (dwarf), Monstrance (climbing)
Ruud, Mustard, Georgia Collard, Stiense Runner Bean, Peppadew chilli, Climbing French bean Madeira Maroon and Blauhilde.
Nigel B, Cardoon (Cynara cardunculus), Fruit Gogi Berry, Butter nut squash
SueK, tomato; Yabloki Na Snegu and Sibirskiy Skorospelyi
Ian Pearson, Biskopens graaert pea, Cheltenham Greentop Beetroot, Painted Mountain Corn, Salsify, White Gem x parsnip.
Pumpkinlover, French Beans; Brighstone dwarf, Purple Tepee dwarf, District Nurse climbing. Black Sugar Sweet Turnip
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Whayhay! Parcel arrived safely this morning, and all seeds present and correct.
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Came home from work to a big fat parcel! :blob7:
Thanks everyone and especially to Jayb :wave:
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I'll repeat myself...
Could everybody check their seed haul and look any seed packets from me..any missing?
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All present and correct .cheers
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Same here. Just to add to the list above that JayB has shared the seedsaving for Black Opal tomato to give us seeds from more plants. Also I had Shark's Fin Melon seeds as well as butternut squash in the seed packet from NigelB.
What a treat and what a super choice of different types too.
Blimey, you cleaned your lettuce seeds much better than I did, goodlife! Would you like to share your method? Not that it matters, but yours look so much more professional than mine! :icon_cheers:
Have showed OH your envelopes, Markfield Rover - he was well impressed! Stunning! :angel11:
What a treasure trove indeed! And by the way, the first seeds have already been sown :wave:
Thank you again all. :wave:
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Blimey, you cleaned your lettuce seeds much better than I did, goodlife! Would you like to share your method? Not that it matters, but yours look so much more professional than mine! :icon_cheers:
Thanks...but it 'only' involved strong set of lungs and dizzy head after lot of blowing.. :drunken_smilie:..and propably lot of seed around garden too...
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Galina , glad you liked the packets, I have started a collection, I like the Thomas Etty ones, as a child I can remember Carter's seed packets looking quite Victorian and not in vintage way.
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Just got the parcel, thanks.
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yes the pigeon dropped a package . :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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thanks everybody and especially jayb for all the goodies. :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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Thanks to the people who sent the blackpod beans and the broad beans. I've been looking, and I have to apologise as I can't find out who you are!
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Sorry Robert, I meant to message you. I think from another thread you were looking for some more Blackpod Runners, which I said I'd send. The Broadies are my mix, all grown together the last couple of years, I know you are developing your own selection and thought these might be a useful addition.
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yes the pigeon dropped a package . :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
Wow that was quick, so glad they made good time :happy7:
Get well soon :wave:
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Thanks, JayB. You were spot on with those.
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Brilliant :happy7:
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.................................... Also I had Shark's Fin Melon seeds as well as butternut squash in the seed packet from NigelB.
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Well spotted Galina. Sorry I hadn't updated the thread to say so, but this is my first time back on-line since posting my parcel..
Many thanks to all for the hard work and generosity that goes into making a thing like this work.
My parcel is still a source of wonder and pleasure... :glasses9:
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Hi,
I'm a newbie and also have just got my first allotment so still getting stuff sorted. I was wondering if I could join or if it was too late?. Regards easyonthebrain
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Hi easyonthebrain, welcome to Allotments4all :wave:
Last season's Seed Circle is finished, but you are can join this year's one, have a look here and if you feel it's for you join in :happy7: http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,77280.0.html
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Hi easyonthebrain, welcome to Allotments4all :wave:
Last season's Seed Circle is finished, but you are can join this year's one, have a look here and if you feel it's for you join in :happy7: http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,77280.0.html
Oh, I just noticed - Happy Birthday! - and welcome to A4A, easyonthebrain :sunny:
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Just wanted to say another big thankyou to everybody. All seeds sown is coming up nicely (a few things have been held over to next year, but I included carried over seeds from a year ago). The quality of circle seed and the germination is so much better than from commercial packets. And of course the seed has been grown locally and not produced in another continent which makes a big difference.
If I single out just one, for example Chilacayote aka Shark's fin melon from two sources, both came up beautifully. It is a joy to sow these seeds and watch them grow. :sunny:
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Just to echo what Galina said. :sunny: I have some fantastic plants here this year, mostly from sowing single seeds in the firm belief that 'our' seeds are the freshest available.... And I don't think I've had a single failure so far. Even the seeds sown straight into the soil are flourishing. :glasses9:
You lot are fantastic! :icon_cheers: Thank you all again!
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Here too, plus I am sowing with success seeds from 2011, makes you wonder about the seed companies , and that makes me like Real Seeds even more. Just come from the greenhouse even before the kettle goes on - all that germination ...good for the soul I reckon .
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My plants are still quite small yet but a couple of pictures of my Melothria Scabra.
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Anyone have success with germinating the Bay Laurel?
Mine didn't start to show until mid May - June, a few little babies.
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No sign of mine yet. I'm hoping I still have seeds after a mouse had a dig around in the pot!
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Same here, no sign yet, sorry.
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Oh dear, not again. I picked them fresh this year just before sending the parcels as I messed up last year?
Mine have been outside in a pot of B&Q compost, so no special treatment here!
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Did anyone try the Goji Berry seeds yet? I hope you all have luck with them. :happy7:
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Did anyone try the Goji Berry seeds yet? I hope you all have luck with them. :happy7:
I left it a bit late to get mine started this spring, but thought I'd try half in the autumn and the remainder next spring?
Edit to add quote.
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Anyone have success with germinating the Bay Laurel?
Mine didn't start to show until mid May - June, a few little babies.
Nothing here ...yet...
Saying that...I've got one that I planted 20 year ago...and it has never ever shown any signs of flowering ?! ...so perhaps bay just don't trust my nursing skills.. :drunken_smilie:
Hmm..my seed tray is in GH...perhaps I should move it outside where it would stay move evenly moist...
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Did anyone try the Goji Berry seeds yet? I hope you all have luck with them. :happy7:
Mine are rocketing :icon_cheers:
No bay yet though.
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My goji berries came up, but are still very small.
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Bay babies,
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Ian, thank you for Biskopen's Graaert. They are delightful. Very unusual pea colour shining through maturing pods. And surprisingly, they are a mangetout. Very nice indeed. The tallest in the pea patch this year nearly 8ft with all the rain we had. Quite late maturing after the earlies have gone - so good! Many of my vines are perishing in this heat, but these are still looking good. To have a variety that extends the pea season is a delight. Thank you for the seeds.
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Forgot to say - the seeds look light to dark brown when the pods are still at edible mangetout state, although the darker brown peas are better shelled out. Later the seeds dry to dark purple. I think I mentioned that this variety was the tallest growing this year. The pods started developing relatively late, but suddenly there was an abundance. At the moment they are gamely struggling to continue against mildew and still producing new pods in abundance.
Visually stunning too, because the dark seeds are actually visible through the green pods, especially on the early developing ones. As you said Ian, not a very sweet variety, but I have never seen anything like it! :sunny:
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Picture of this pea
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Glad they are a hit! I didn't grow any this year; too many other varieties to try out. Magnum Bonum did well for me, and I like Skansk Margart which I'm only getting round to trying this year. I think it is from three years ago. Goodlife's, if I remember correctly.
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Can anyone help me identify some peas. I got them from one of the circles- no idea which- but they were labelled "Blauschokker" . It is a large green mange tout, with slightly brown flecks but more a muddy brown at the moment.
I can find Blauwschokker on the internet which is a purple podded and definitely not what I grew.
Has anyone else had these seeds and can help identify them. If not I will happily grow them anyway and Thank you to the donor :happy7:
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Can anyone help me identify some peas. I got them from one of the circles- no idea which- but they were labelled "Blauschokker" . It is a large green mange tout, with slightly brown flecks but more a muddy brown at the moment.
I can find Blauwschokker on the internet which is a purple podded and definitely not what I grew.
Has anyone else had these seeds and can help identify them. If not I will happily grow them anyway and Thank you to the donor :happy7:
I think there may have been a packing error. 'Eat Me', a large mangetout pea, came from the same source as Blauwschokker. This may have been the source of the confusion. All my peas labelled Blauwschokker were also like you describe them, not like they should be. Too bad - these things can happen :wave:
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Thanks Petra, that makes sense as they looked so similar when growing, and the peas did too.
I needed to grow out the EatMe's and never got to eat any but have enough to plant now and eat. They are so fast to grow, so pleased :happy7:
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Can anyone help me identify some peas. I got them from one of the circles- no idea which- but they were labelled "Blauschokker" . It is a large green mange tout, with slightly brown flecks but more a muddy brown at the moment.
I can find Blauwschokker on the internet which is a purple podded and definitely not what I grew.
Has anyone else had these seeds and can help identify them. If not I will happily grow them anyway and Thank you to the donor :happy7:
I think there may have been a packing error. 'Eat Me', a large mangetout pea, came from the same source as Blauwschokker. This may have been the source of the confusion. All my peas labelled Blauwschokker were also like you describe them, not like they should be. Too bad - these things can happen :wave:
Uh Oh! That'll be me then :drunken_smilie:
Sorry folks. Next time (next year perhaps) I'll get it right. Promise. :angel11:
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Uh Oh! That'll be me then :drunken_smilie:
Sorry folks. Next time (next year perhaps) I'll get it right. Promise. :angel11:
No issue, these things happen and can happen to any of us. Don't worry about it :wave:
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No worries. I just wanted to check it out. Easily done -) surprised I not done!
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No worries. I just wanted to check it out. Easily done -) surprised I not done!
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I'm just bumping this up before unsticking it.
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A very late addition, regarding the Melothria scabra seeds I added to this circle:
Gleaned from Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203813781721858&set=gm.795385650541377&type=1&theater
I appears you can overwinter the roots frost free (like runner bean roots) and resprout them the following year for an earlier crop.
How good is that! I only just found out :wave:
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That's a surprise. I wonder if they would start to crop sooner? I noticed yesterday my overwintered runners are just starting to show signs of sprouting.
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That's a surprise. I wonder if they would start to crop sooner? I noticed yesterday my overwintered runners are just starting to show signs of sprouting.
Here too :sunny:
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Just wanted to upload a picture of lettuce Spotted Cos. I'm just blown away how pretty this one is. Need to separate into individual plants with care (in a bowl of water works best) and plant with bottle cloches.
Such a lovely looking lettuce :blob7: Thankyou Goodlife. By the way I found out that its alternative names are Trout or Forellenschluss. I had heard of Forellenschluss (trout's tail) and not realised that this is it. See for yourself - amazing colours:
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Just wanted to upload a picture of lettuce Spotted Cos. I'm just blown away how pretty this one is. Need to separate into individual plants with care (in a bowl of water works best) and plant with bottle cloches.
Such a lovely looking lettuce :blob7: Thankyou Goodlife. By the way I found out that its alternative names are Trout or Forellenschluss. I had heard of Forellenschluss (trout's tail) and not realised that this is it. See for yourself - amazing colours:
Oh, I didn't know that name...thank you for that!
It is rather 'pretty' lettuce and the colours will intensify one they get proper amount of sun on them. I had some that were almost 'purple' but with green spots..and some with opposite effect. One visitor who came to my GH when I was growing the lettuce in GH said...'what is that then?'..didn't recognize it being lettuce.. :laughing7:
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And today the Soulie lettuces were planted out. Really good looking little plants. Thank you :happy7:
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Lettuce Soulie end of May. Ready for cutting the biggest to give the smaller ones more room to grow. Both Soulie and Spotted Cos are a nice addition to the garden and kitchen. :angel11:
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Ooo...they have grown well... :icon_cheers:
Hopefully you approve the taste too.
I had 'soulie' seed accident in GH last winter. Knocked over the saved seeds pot and now I have soulie popping up in GH borders in mass...seedlings all over the place.. :drunken_smilie: :icon_cheers:
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Ooo...they have grown well... :icon_cheers:
Hopefully you approve the taste too.
I had 'soulie' seed accident in GH last winter. Knocked over the saved seeds pot and now I have soulie popping up in GH borders in mass...seedlings all over the place.. :drunken_smilie: :icon_cheers:
They transplant well. Sorry you lost your seed stash, but at least you got enough plants to save again. I hope to save seeds and keep the variety going. Let's hope the weather is reasonably dry at seed harvesting time. :wave:
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Ooo...they have grown well... :icon_cheers:
Hopefully you approve the taste too.
I had 'soulie' seed accident in GH last winter. Knocked over the saved seeds pot and now I have soulie popping up in GH borders in mass...seedlings all over the place.. :drunken_smilie: :icon_cheers:
They transplant well. Sorry you lost your seed stash, but at least you got enough plants to save again. I hope to save seeds and keep the variety going. Let's hope the weather is reasonably dry at seed harvesting time. :wave:
Luckily it wasn't all the stash...I did collect several lots so I have plenty. I suppose it was 'happy' accident...I'll be well supplied with lettuce soon, though plenty of weeding will be involved too.
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Mine seems to be growing very well :wave: