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Title: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: plainleaf2 on October 15, 2009, 01:19:50
What are your veg garden plans for 2010?
What will be new,old and left by wayside?
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 15, 2009, 02:38:31
What are your veg garden plans for 2010?
What will be new,old and left by wayside?

Many more Heritage Red Raspberries
              Better fences and ways to keep varmints out
              Stronger bean poles
              Black cherry tomato and try some more new types of toms
              Grow more butternut squash up shrubs
              Increase plantings of Massai bush beans and purple Italian pole beans
              Try some larger aubergines
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Digeroo on October 15, 2009, 06:46:39
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purple Italian pole beans

What variety do you grow?  Are they for eating as pods or for dried beans.  I grew a heritage variety called Mrs Lewis's Purple podded this year and it was amazing.  Ate piles of pods and then left some to run to seed and ended up with 400 beans.  Only started with 10 beans, and ended up with only 8 plants.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: lewic on October 15, 2009, 08:14:03
Dig out rasberries and put up a polytunnel
Make a pond at the top of the plot
Build a more solid arch to grow roses up
Decking round the shed
Arch at the bottom of the plot to grow clematis up, and hide the fence
Round courgettes for stuffing
More butternuts
Dwarf stringless beans
More carrots
Parsnips
Try to keep it tidier!
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Duke Ellington on October 15, 2009, 09:19:12
more sweetcorn
less runner beans ~ next year will be the third year I reduce the amount
more french beans
white beetroot
yellow beetroot
a few new squashes
a thornless blackberry for the fence at the back of the plot
fruit cage completed


IN THE GREENHOUSE
less chilli plants ~ had far too many
more tomatoes different varieties
more sweet peppers~ they were so lovely the supermarket ones taste awful now  :'(


Duke
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Flighty on October 15, 2009, 09:50:07
Duke I'm going to grow white and yellow beetroot as well.
If you've not done so before be aware that germination is somewhat erratic and they tend not to grow very big, golf ball size is good going.
I love the taste of yellow ones but have yet to try white ones!
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Duke Ellington on October 15, 2009, 10:31:12
Thanks Flighty :)

Where did you buy your white beetroot seeds from?

Duke

Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 15, 2009, 11:06:34
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purple Italian pole beans

What variety do you grow?  Are they for eating as pods or for dried beans.  I grew a heritage variety called Mrs Lewis's Purple podded this year and it was amazing.  Ate piles of pods and then left some to run to seed and ended up with 400 beans.  Only started with 10 beans, and ended up with only 8 plants.
"PURPLE TRIONFO VIOLETTO BEAN" (60 days) and doesn't mind part shade plus ripens earlier than my green beans. Eat the pods. I suppose you could eat them dried, but the seeds are smallish. These have a light purple flower and purple vines. The seeds are white.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Digeroo on October 15, 2009, 11:22:24
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"PURPLE TRIONFO VIOLETTO BEAN"
  Many thanks Grannieannie will give that one a try.   Over here the beans need all the sun they can get.  Grew Purple King dwarf and like them but find picking the climbers much more satisfying.

I will also grow some choices from the Heritage Seed Library.  We get six choices and a lucky dip and I usually ask for an extra bean variety. 

Otherwise plans are more golden beetroot, more carrots, more strawberries, more space(?!), more parsnips.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: non-stick on October 15, 2009, 12:49:18
More Sweetocorn
Earlier Butternuts
Crack Pumpkin Growing
Less Summer Cabbage
More Cauliflowers
Less Runner Beans
More Salad Leaves
Try Aubergines and Peppers(again)
Mark out some paths
Some Decking/Paving round the shed for seating
Edge the plot so that the wire can be fastened inside to aid strimming the grass paths

and

continue to enjoy it
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Flighty on October 15, 2009, 14:44:43
Duke I've got a packet of Albina Ice that I didn't use this year which I got from MoreVeg. I notice that this year they're not doing that variety but Detroit White.

http://www.moreveg.co.uk/shop/article_BEEDW/Beetroot-Detroit--White.html?shop_param=cid%3D8%26aid%3DBEEDW%26
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Digeroo on October 15, 2009, 15:01:09
I have some left of a packet of Albino Ice from Nickys Nursery, not keen on it.  Go for Golden Burpee instead.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 15, 2009, 16:39:35
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"PURPLE TRIONFO VIOLETTO BEAN"
  Many thanks Grannieannie will give that one a try.   Over here the beans need all the sun they can get.  Grew Purple King dwarf and like them but find picking the climbers much more satisfying.
A funny thing about the purple beans- some lost almost all their leaves late in the season and I'm not sure why. I thought they were dying. Maybe too much heat? Anyway, they got their second wind somehow and I just picked some ripe purple beans off them yesterday! Sorry now I pulled some of them down earlier thinking they were dead as a doornail.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Digeroo on October 15, 2009, 17:02:10
Runner beans are certainly perennials and if you keep them frost free they can be persuaded to come again in the spring.  A few years ago winter was so mild here that bean plants in the garden did not die and came up again the next year. 

I suppose that French beans (Pole beans) are also perennial so perhaps they thought it was spring and time to get going again.

I do a second sowing towards the end of June or early July so I am still eating them in September and October. 
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: mpdjulie on October 15, 2009, 20:46:40
This year was my first successful year but there will be some veg that I shall not bother with next year.
The best for me this year was my courgettes by far, they are still producing.
La diva cucumbers were exquisite.
My 3 bell pepper plants in the greenhouse are still producing peppers and flowers.
My chilli pepper plants have given me a few hundred chillies.
I had 8 scarlett emperor runner beans plants which I stopped picking from about 3-4 weeks ago to harvest some beans for future plants.
My 4 butternut squash plants have produced about 8 squashes but as yet aren't ready to pick.
I have 6 iceberg lettuce still in the ground.
I have had peas, leeks, french beans, salad bowl lettuce, broad beans, cabbages, lots of spuds, shallots and tomatoes.
I was really unimpressed with some onion sets from Marshalls.  They all had to be pulled early because they had some furry fungal stuff on them so I won't be growing sets again.  I have sown some seed in my greenhouse.  Hoping that they germinate ok I shall be planting them.
This year I'm planting more or less what was successful this year but I am also going to have a go at pumpkins and watermelons.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 16, 2009, 13:48:14
Runner beans are certainly perennials and if you keep them frost free they can be persuaded to come again in the spring.  A few years ago winter was so mild here that bean plants in the garden did not die and came up again the next year. 

I suppose that French beans (Pole beans) are also perennial so perhaps they thought it was spring and time to get going again.

I do a second sowing towards the end of June or early July so I am still eating them in September and October. 
Good point Digeroo. I forget that they can be perennial since it gets way below freezing here and they don't stand a chance. I did try a late planting of bush beans but the groundhogs mowed them down in a night. >:( and then ate the red beets to balance their diet.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on October 16, 2009, 13:57:27
runner beans are perennial. Treat as for dahlias, though i've never done it

French beans are annuals
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: Sparkly on October 16, 2009, 13:58:09
Plant more:
Early peas
Carrots
Raspberries
Strawberries

Plant less:
Turnips

Put in a few more large raised beds
Build a proper compost heap
Get the paths properly straight

Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: chriscross1966 on October 17, 2009, 03:29:24
More climbing beans
No dwarf beans
Succession the broad beans and peas
Bigger selection of squash
Get a polytunnel
Take on another half plot to put the polytunnel on.....
More sweetcorn
Swede
Try different big onions as I'm not sure I'll ever get Kelsaes to the size I want
More long red florence onions
Get several gherkin plants to grow together
No Waltham butternut (too late) or Bon-bon (too aggressive)
A monster pumpkin (Have Atlantic Giant)
Try eastern european tomatos outdoors
Sort out the gooseberries
Get blackcurrants and sloes
Strawberries
Get the asparagus planted out

That'll do for starters.

chrisc
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: cornykev on October 17, 2009, 12:25:31
More sweetcorn.
More peas.
Earlier butternuts.
Stager French beans.
Try Turnips.
Big Pumpkins that don't get stolen.
More Strawberrys.
Less Earlies, more Kestrels and a decent maincrop for size, storing and resistence.
At least half a dozen decent cauli's, it's not too much to ask is it.
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: pigeonseed on October 17, 2009, 17:00:03
Oh so much! I've only had my new plot a few months and it's still a bit wild! Next year I want it to look like a garden.

I want to grow more winter veg (start next summer).

And yellow courgettes.

And chillies for the first time.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: tartonterro on October 17, 2009, 21:08:08
sweetcorn at home for 1st time - grown it once when i had the plot.  saw an interesting suggestion, plant alternative rows 2 weeks apart, seemingly due to the way that sweetcorn polinates you will get the alternative rows fully polenating - not sure but gona give it a try.
more beetroot - 1st year getting a half decent crop i could pickle - and its yummy
more tatties in tubs and tyres - got some good crops this year
hope to get a new greenhouse - nothing fancy mum has one of the ones with plastic walls and double skinned roof pannels - seems really good.
hopefully another year of good garlic and onion crops.
gona try and grow some of the single clove garlic bulbs from lidls for seed and then grow on the year after
put stakes in for rasps - make it easier for picking
hopefully have solar powered watering system up and running, got the panel, battery, converted cordless drill and pump.  Just need to put it all together lol
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 19, 2009, 13:34:09

hopefully have solar powered watering system up and running, got the panel, battery, converted cordless drill and pump.  Just need to put it all together lol

tartonterro,  I'll be very eager to hear about your watering system and its particulars. Best wishes.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: tartonterro on October 21, 2009, 20:31:38

hopefully have solar powered watering system up and running, got the panel, battery, converted cordless drill and pump.  Just need to put it all together lol

tartonterro,  I'll be very eager to hear about your watering system and its particulars. Best wishes.

will get some pictures and post on friday/saturday.
the basics are an old cordless drill that ive "converted" by ripping out the trigger and wiring directly to the motor, this i then connect onto a 12v "hobby battery" i got from screw fix, attached to drill is a fluid pump i picked up from diy show (not sure which one) to pump the water from water barrels round the garden.  i will keep the battery charged with a solar battery charger you can use to keep your car battery charged up with.
i was very lucky last year and picked up 2 aqua pod 10's for £15 each - think they retail for £35 to £40 each and will use these along with other bits of micro tube irrigation i have to water the 3 raised beds i have and hopefully as far as my greenhouse (hopefully getting a new one for start of year)
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 21, 2009, 22:18:39

hopefully have solar powered watering system up and running, got the panel, battery, converted cordless drill and pump.  Just need to put it all together lol

tartonterro,  I'll be very eager to hear about your watering system and its particulars. Best wishes.

will get some pictures and post on friday/saturday.
the basics are an old cordless drill that ive "converted" by ripping out the trigger and wiring directly to the motor, this i then connect onto a 12v "hobby battery" i got from screw fix, attached to drill is a fluid pump i picked up from diy show (not sure which one) to pump the water from water barrels round the garden.  i will keep the battery charged with a solar battery charger you can use to keep your car battery charged up with.
i was very lucky last year and picked up 2 aqua pod 10's for £15 each - think they retail for £35 to £40 each and will use these along with other bits of micro tube irrigation i have to water the 3 raised beds i have and hopefully as far as my greenhouse (hopefully getting a new one for start of year)
My eyes began to cross when you got to "ripping out the trigger" and the rewiring jazz. Guess this will be another for long suffering husband.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: tonybloke on October 22, 2009, 11:12:18
What are your veg garden plans for 2010?
What will be new,old and left by wayside?

what are your plans? you've found out some of ours, now tell us yours!!
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: plainleaf2 on October 22, 2009, 17:02:13
 mine are still in flux.
but there will be
3 water melon plants Carolina cross
1 Atlantic giant pumpkin plant
2 nc giant cantaloupes
16 tomato for size plants
30 tomato plant for sauce san marzano
several other tomato varieties
21 eggplants 7 different varieties and colors
50 peanut plants
50 sweet potato plant Beauregard
cucumbers of 7 varieties one them being white wonder.
4 hot pepper varieties
5 sweet pepper varieties
lot types lettuce greens
carrots at least 7 varieties
sweet corn silver queen.
and about 50 other things.

tonybloke you turn

Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: plainleaf2 on October 25, 2009, 03:42:05
I also will be growing
d'Alger  melon
and Melocoton
sweet potatoes
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: amphibian on October 25, 2009, 06:52:51
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purple Italian pole beans

What variety do you grow?  Are they for eating as pods or for dried beans.  I grew a heritage variety called Mrs Lewis's Purple podded this year and it was amazing.  Ate piles of pods and then left some to run to seed and ended up with 400 beans.  Only started with 10 beans, and ended up with only 8 plants.

Did you actually count the beans?

I'm sticking to Cherokee Trail of Tears from now on, I sowed 10 beans and harvested 511g of dried beans. No idea how many beans that is, but I'd guestimate over 1000. The beans harvested are perfectly dry too, shattering when struck with a hammer; and all this despite being a neglectful gardener. We were drought hit here in Maidstone, but I didn't water my beans and the CToT still delivered.

My jumbo beans were a disaster, though, 10 beans from 20 sown.
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: tartonterro on October 25, 2009, 21:08:00
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purple Italian pole beans

What variety do you grow?  Are they for eating as pods or for dried beans.  I grew a heritage variety called Mrs Lewis's Purple podded this year and it was amazing.  Ate piles of pods and then left some to run to seed and ended up with 400 beans.  Only started with 10 beans, and ended up with only 8 plants.

Did you actually count the beans?

I'm sticking to Cherokee Trail of Tears from now on, I sowed 10 beans and harvested 511g of dried beans. No idea how many beans that is, but I'd guestimate over 1000. The beans harvested are perfectly dry too, shattering when struck with a hammer; and all this despite being a neglectful gardener. We were drought hit here in Maidstone, but I didn't water my beans and the CToT still delivered.

My jumbo beans were a disaster, though, 10 beans from 20 sown.

did you leave them on the plant to dry, ive grown these for the last two years and this year is the 1st year ive tried drying them, but with the weather we have had ive taken them of the plant and have them on drying racks in the hut
Title: Re: Garden plans for 2010
Post by: amphibian on October 25, 2009, 22:56:11
did you leave them on the plant to dry, ive grown these for the last two years and this year is the 1st year ive tried drying them, but with the weather we have had ive taken them of the plant and have them on drying racks in the hut

Yes, I dried them on the plants, no mildew at all, but until recently it just hasn't rained here. It has been an incredibly dry year in this area, something I understand has not been the case elsewhere in the country.

If I am forced to pick early, I leave them in the pods to dry further.

You can also dry them out using a food dehydrator thingy on a low heat, an oven is too hot.

Once they are shatter dry I bung them in the freezer for 12 hours (you can only do this if they are shatter dry) this kills off any bean weevils and ensures they will store well and be good for sowing next year. If you do freeze them, do it in a airtight container and do not open it until the beans have had time to return to room temperature, otherwise condensation will make them soggy.
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