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General => The Shed => Topic started by: ACE on December 10, 2014, 11:27:26
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What is all that cr@p about? It's winter, that's all.
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Err... I have no idea. Please explain :glasses9:
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I think they don't just happen in winter although the effects may feel worse then.
It's real name "Explosive cyclogenesis - known colloquially as a "weather bomb" - is when a storm intensifies as the pressure at its centre drops rapidly (by more than 24 millibars in 24 hours)."
Probably pretty uncomfortable for those caught up in it. We certainly had enough howling wind and rain here in Belgum to keep me awake most of the night.
http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/news/greenland-bomb-cyclone-iceland-uk-alexandra
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Just a new and 'sexy' way of describing a deep low pressure system that brings storms with it. Apparently it is a real weather term. Anything to attract attention, it seems. :BangHead: Why 'bomb' I have no idea either.
Hope everybody stays safe, looks like a nasty storm in places.
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Yep I agree completely Ace.
I suppose it is all tied up with letting us know about risks and Michael Fish.
I am waiting to be told when gold will again fall on the streets of London.
Bill
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It's winter, that's all.
Low pressure below 950 mB is not common, and bound to be disruptive albeit that the Low is, thankfully, sailing well North of Scotland and no longer deepening.
Shipping Sea state forecast for Bailey was "Very rough or high, becoming phenomenal" - which means over 14m :(
"Weather bomb" is an imported Americanism which, personally, I think we could do without regardless of whether the rate of deepening is "explosive" or not.
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there you have it
the meteorologists think we're too thick to work out what "explosive cyclogenesis" is,
or that we'll think it's the next "Terminator" film
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Well it seems to have worked in that it has drawn attention to the likelihood of difficult weather. Whether you like the term or not, it certainly sticks in the mind and draws attention to the circumstances that could endanger life and limb - all good if you ask me.
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Have you notice how weather people in telly like to use word 'dank' ...nothing new but it is almost like in 'fashion' now.
There must be somebody out there with English dictionary in their lap, and getting paid for it too!...trying to find good words that make certain weather conditions sound even 'better'.. :drunken_smilie:
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It's winter, that's all.
Exactly!
I find the winter weather forecasts a bit laughable these days!
What would they have made of 1947 when I was but a lad, and I had to wade through snow up to my chin when I walked to school.
In fact I recall the school road sign I had to walk past, you know the one, the one with the two kids walking across a road!
Well the snow had drifted up to the soles of their feet!
Then there was 1959 I think it was when we had frost and snow solid for three months or more.
In fact I recall they had a 'Bonspiel' (curling) on the nearby loch .....now that is very rare.
Apparently if you heard the ice beneath creaking and groaning that was a good sign in terms of safety!
Let me tell you....it was bloody scary... but I did it!
I I don't know what Health and Welfare would have done in those days what with hundreds of people on the ice!
I even remember cutting a spawning trout out of a stream that had frozen solid!
Now that was a WINTER!
There has been hell on here in Huddersfield because the Council had not gritted the roads the other night.
To my mind it would it would have been a waste of time simply because it 'peed' it down' all night then froze in the morning!
In fact as a gardener I wished the weather was a bit more like we had in the past, by that I mean the four seasons!
At least then we seemed to be able to organise ourselves better as we had a good idea as what to expect in terms of the weather, whereas now it is so confusing particularly when the weather seems to be in reverse at times.
But then again I am enjoying my hibernation period and looking forward to the festivities choose what the weather brings!
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A cold winter would kill some bugs ...
... but I now have quite a lot of tender plants, and a mild winter makes a huge difference to the show that they put on the following year. My Bananas were huge this year as their pseudostems survived last winter easily.
Mild winter saves me a fortune on heating too :)
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it's not really a bomb any more, if it goes on for weeks
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it's not really a bomb any more, if it goes on for weeks
No I don't think so neither....and when they mention the dreaded 'jet stream'...you definitely know it means weeks of 'doom'.
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For anyone not already familiar with it earth.nullschool.net has some lovely animated pictures of wind and temperature
(http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=78574.0;attach=41897;image)
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=-16.24,53.36,1024
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it's not really a bomb any more, if it goes on for weeks
No I don't think so neither....and when they mention the dreaded 'jet stream'...you definitely know it means weeks of 'doom'.
so "bomb" is the wrong word
we need something else to describe something very,very bad, that goes on for a long time...:)
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We could call it X-Factor, Eastenders, Party Conference Season, Snooker, Football..................
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TeeGee:
I even remember cutting a spawning trout out of a stream that had frozen solid!
Now that was a WINTER!
Oh my frozen bits! :confused2:
I can remember, just :tongue3:, some outstanding (As far as snow and ice went) winters in the 60's and 70's and a few of those were extra-cold, but even I will easily admit that finding frozen trout tops that... And I even spent one winter in Shetland! Brrrr.
Can't say I'm a fan of these windy and wet winters.
Some of my happy memories seem to include 'ideal' winter conditions for us as kids.
And of course, they all included snow.
Hmmm...
I remember squeaky snow and still, dry air.
Waking up and realising the world sounded somehow different outside, like someone turned the volume down two notches.
The thud of snow on glass, and the immediate rebuke from Mum.
Bobble hats.
Snow on mats.
Lost sheep tunnels and icicle fingers pointing at the frozen ground.
Hot soup in a mug making tiny condensation droplets on your eyelashes as hold it close for warmth and blow on it to cool to it down.
Welly-sock, Half-way on, half-way off.
Mass playground snowball fights.
Painful fingers under the cold tap.
Snow-packed dog hair.
Collective pavement-clearing.
Intermittent school heating.
Snowploughs on trains.
I could go on, and on...
What do you remember of winters when you were young?
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A panoramic shot of my back garden 21st Jan 2013
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/tgalmanac/01-January/BGPanorama-130121.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/tgalmanac/media/01-January/BGPanorama-130121.jpg.html)
As it was before I joined the pictres together;
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/tgalmanac/01-January/P1190098.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/tgalmanac/media/01-January/P1190098.jpg.html)
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/tgalmanac/01-January/P1190099.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/tgalmanac/media/01-January/P1190099.jpg.html)
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(http://i59.tinypic.com/jkdp41.jpg)
This is winter to me,sitting on Dungeness Beach in my little Red house with its powder coating of snow.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/zksnkk.jpg) :sunny:
The rods sit waiting patiently with their winter coats on for a seasonal Codling to arrive.
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2nk8d4n.jpg)
and so last winters bounty presents themselves to me !!!!
(http://i58.tinypic.com/n538ti.jpg)
and very tasty they were too......so throw what you like at me winter.....im ready for you..!!!!
Gazza
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I can only remember the bad one in the early sixties. I was on leave from the navy for xmas and got a telegram telling me not to try and return to ship until the snow had cleared. I didn't go back until march that was when the last of the snowman melted away in the garden. My ship had gone back to the Persian Gulf and I was shipped north to the Artic circle. After that the winters here were so mild I got my three year old son a sledge for xmas and he did not use it until he was eleven. But no bomb down here yet, warmish really until 4 oclock then it gets a bit nippy.
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Great pics TG makes me feel cold just looking at them. Hopefully not much snow this winter.
I remember 1962/3 we had three months of freezing weather, getting to school on the train was a bit of a nightmare. The smog was terrible as well.
No bombs here yet, but certainly plenty of dank going on today.
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I think you may be meant to post this in"weather bomb"! One of us can move it in the morning! I am just back from allotment Christmas night out so not quite up to such technical skills at the moment! :glasses9:
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London warned as 'weather bomb' hits the south
so now we'll really hear some moaning about it
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Well, it's certainly moaning round here. The noise kept me awake most of the night. No obvious damage so far but the trees and shrubs are definitely taking a battering and it's very wet out there. Felt warm though when I went out to feed the birds.
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isn't it about time the papers started on about norovirus epidemics again? A "Vomit bomb"
to go with the "Obesity Tsunami"
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/tsunami-of-obesity-worldwide-study-2206548.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/tsunami-of-obesity-worldwide-study-2206548.html)
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London warned as 'weather bomb' hits the south
so now we'll really hear some moaning about it
A plate of baked beans would have had more effect than my weather bomb
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Nothing very exciting going on here. Currently 4C wind 3mph humidity 92%. No bombs.
Looks like being unseasonally warm the middle of next week. Maybe the wind will coming up from the south once ACE gets busy with the baked beans.
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London warned as 'weather bomb' hits the south
so now we'll really hear some moaning about it
Pah! Ill be out on my bike as usual...
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Oh, happy days....(not)
Yes, I remember the winter of 1947/8 in Sussex when as a 4 yr old I was surprised to find snow falling inside my small wellington boots; I also now have my young mother's diary about trying to keep me and my younger sister warm, with electricity cut off for much of every day, no other fuel of any sort. And both my parents worked at Bletchley Park while I was a baby, and had to put up with terrible conditions and blackouts and no heating and restricted food (they fed me with their weekly egg, and apparently I used to spit it out, to their chagrin).
Fast forward to living in Fife/Scotland the next year and onwards without central heating and learning to skate on local ponds every winter. Cycling to school without gloves and having to soak hands in hot water before being able to write. Ink frozen in the ink wells (remember them? I was an Ink Monitor, supposed to fill them up each day and fish out soggy blotting paper). Outside lavatories at school, very cold, little privacy.
Fast forward again as a student in London in early 60s, each year taking a bus through snow drifts from Fife/Edinborough, journey a freezing 15 hours overnight. Not allowed by my college to wear trousers! Had to sneak in to RAM past the Lady Supervisor's office, wearing them. Freezing student digs, used to lie in bed to keep warm, reading music scores, until c11am when landlady might turn the heating on.....
The last London smogs, when you could lose your way crossing the road.....
As a young mother myself during the '70s miners' strikes, keeping hot water in thermos to feed my babies with and lighting stored candles to keep room above freezing. Frantic phone calls from London friends because they were being mugged for candles!
Driving to and from Morven on roads made of frozen snow, totally routine exercise.
Bread strike - when was that? Those of us who had stores of yeast and flour were OK (have always made own bread). A chemist friend used his lab to make yeast. (We didn't know then about sour dough).
I know this sounds like the "lived in a shoebox and had to lick the motorway clean every day" skit....what am I referring to? Also George Orwell's books......But it was true for many of us in those years, wasn't it? We were resourceful and inventive.
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Fast forward to living in Fife/Scotland
Where ?
I as born and bred in Fife
learning to skate on local ponds every winter.
The bonspiel I mentioned earlier was on Loch Leven
Ink frozen in the ink wells (remember them? I was an Ink Monitor, supposed to fill them up each day and fish out soggy blotting paper).
I remember the pens better we used them as darts then we were expected to write with them, and even draw with them in art class.
I remember one of my pictures getting pride of place on the art class wall.
Outside lavatories at school, very cold, little privacy
....and the shiny Izal toilet paper and frozen cisterns!
Ah! The memories!
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I lived in and around St Andrews in Fife until I left to be a student in London (big culture shock....).
Yes, Izal, but also squares of newspaper next to lavatories at the bottom of the garden.
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isn't it about time the papers started on about norovirus epidemics again? A "Vomit bomb"
spoke too soon. Today's Express
NHS winter meltdown: Hospitals in killer bug crisis
THE deadly winter vomiting bug has brought the NHS to crisis point, sending hospital waiting times soaring to record levels.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546714/nhs-winter-meltdown-a-e-struggle-treat-killer-bug (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546714/nhs-winter-meltdown-a-e-struggle-treat-killer-bug)