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Title: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on March 29, 2007, 19:59:26: Hi, last year, I gathered the seeds from a sunflower I grew. The plant was grown from a giant single seed, but because I grew it in a pot, it only grew to about 3ft! Here is a picture of the sunflower about 3/4 weeks prior to flowering.
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u144/potterfanpete/Pict999949.jpg)
This was probably the tallest sunflower I have ever grown! If anyone would like a few seeds from this sunflower, please send me a PM or email. If you have anything to swap, anything would be nice! If you don't, don't worry about it, you can have them free! Thanks :)

Pete
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: saddad on March 30, 2007, 16:40:59: You can have some of mine if you want Pete!
;D

Got the PM with the Addy Pete... will post tomorrow as I am going to the office about some thing else..
If you want pics of them they are in the "Sunflower Field" post a bit lower down this thread..

David
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: sunflower_info on April 05, 2007, 06:31:53: Haha! Kid, how many sunflower seeds do you need? I gave you a bunch, and Barry gave you some. Every message forum I go to you are asking for seeds. You have 10 acres of land or something? haha! ::) Barry and I gave you some of the best genetics in the world.

BTW, I'd be really careful about planting any small stuff with them, or they might cross and you may lose the size.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 05, 2007, 07:18:38: It's mainly because I needed some to make a wind break - I've just got an allotment, and it's a little bit breezy, so if I plant some of the sunflower seeds saddad sent me there, hopefully they will help. My dad is growng Barry's seeds, and I'm going to be growing yours -we're having a competition :) Thanks :)

Pete
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: rosebud on April 06, 2007, 15:39:53: I have never known anyone need as many seeds as you do PFP, are you opening a business or something selling them seems rather strange to me, we are a very generous lot on here but do not like being taken for fools. So i would thank you for not treating the peeps on here like we are fools. You are on other sites asking for all sorts of seeds what have you got sodding KEW GARDENS out there. ???
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 06, 2007, 15:54:12: note: was not asking for seeds on this thread!
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 06, 2007, 17:09:20: You know Rosebud you are right,maybe we are going to see a new 'open to the public' garden, what with all the seeds he has had from here plus the countless seeds he has had from some of the other forums he subcribes to , the first bit I don't understand is when he will find the time to do it,especially as he is 'only13' I wonder he finds time to go to school.The second bit I don't understand is why ask for them on one forum and then offer them as as swaps on another.

Pete, I have asked you politely not to PM me, you are still doing so,please stop and please do not give my details to anyone else in your family to PM me either,the two messages I have had from your family members are not appropriate and I wish you to stop contacting me.

I feel I have made that abundately clear, please respect this.

Rosebud, ain't the gardening world a small one !!!

Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 06, 2007, 19:27:03: The seeds I am offering are purely spares - I don't need as many as people send me, so I might as well do something with the remaining ones I don't plant...will respect the no PM'ing thing...I have no intention to appear like this to others - I am beggining to become demoralised by these comments, so I would like to apologise for the way I appear - and promise that I will now not accept any more seeds...please don't see me in a negative light - if you could speak to people whom I see everyday, you would understand that I'm a good person. I still don't understand why you would not like me to PM you, but ah well...Hope this clears things up a bit :)

Pete
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Hyacinth on April 06, 2007, 21:04:51: Well, it's all as clear as mud to me :(

I find someone asking for seeds over the THREE Forums I look at - and very specialised and expensive seeds - not for you, laddie, the common-or-garden :P carrot or leek or spring onion seeds - and getting a lot from each.

And you say it's their fault for sending you so many ???

And still you ask for more. Even today you've been asking someone for yet more ::) squash seeds....

You feel demoralised? How on earth do you think the people on these Forums might feel as they realize that you are playing this wide-reaching game with them?

For me, the great puzzle is why your parents, whom you tell me approve of all your dealings, also aid and abet you by willingly encouraging you to ask for and accepting freebie seeds given to you for them to plant themselves..

A reality check for you and your parents; seeds can be bought for 29p per packet from Lidl atm and if you look in the 'Bargains' section you (and they) will be directed to the Special Offers we come across from all the big stores.

In your blog you write that you are very clever at school but not clever at home...I can only endorse your words.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 06, 2007, 22:05:04: well i've apologised and tried to clear it up, but you will just not forgive - those who have contacted me in a friendly manner will have received a PM
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 06, 2007, 23:59:54: Pete just let it go, you know why I have asked for no PM, you know, I chose not to put this on an open forum which is what YOU asked me to do,I have honoured that,now let it go, otherwise it will get uncomfortable.

If in fact it was your parents that contacted me about you, and not you writing a letter claiming it was your parents,remember they contacted me.

If I get any more I will phone them ,they have invited contact from me and I will do so.

You are trying to put folks in a position that they have to take sides, but remember they only have one side of this story yours...just let it go,at the moment only you and I know what the problem was.

You then brought someone on site and gave them my details so they could PM me that was wrong it's not what a member should do, I have reported that to Admin.

I honoured your request, now please honour mine, I am not the bad guy here, stop playing games with me or I will have to come on to the open forum to discuss why.

Let it go. None of this would have gone any further if you had not started harrassing me after I said I wanted you to stop pming me. Let this be an end to it.

Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 07, 2007, 07:04:20: OK Jeannine, I apologise, and will make no further contact with you...I'm sorry
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: sunflower_info on April 07, 2007, 08:21:54: Quote from: Alishka_Maxwell on April 06, 2007, 21:04:51
Well, it's all as clear as mud to me :(

I find someone asking for seeds over the THREE Forums I look at - and very specialised and expensive seeds - not for you, laddie, the common-or-garden :P carrot or leek or spring onion seeds - and getting a lot from each.

And you say it's their fault for sending you so many ???

And still you ask for more. Even today you've been asking someone for yet more ::) squash seeds....

Haha! You aren't kidding about expensive seed. He's been in the giant vegetable community looking for handouts from giant growers.

This guy emails me on ebay. Says he can't bid because he is only 13 and his parents won't let him use a credit card or something. Growing giant vegetables is a great hobby for kids; so I wanted to give him a start and sent him a bunch of seeds for free. I told him that I was sending him free seeds to Jala maize, as well as giant vegetable marrows, and several giant suflowers, which grows 20+ ft tall. I sell this corn on ebay from generally $10 (approx. 5 british pounds) to as much as $60 (approx. 30british pounds) per auction for 10 seeds. I gave him a lot of seed to plants that take up a massive amount of space.

He's not just asking on allotment 4 all forums. He's asking on other websites.
I caught him asking for even MORE Jala maize AFTER I told him that I sent it to him.

I go on bigpumpkins.com and I find this:
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/msgboard/ViewThread.asp?b=1&p=194000
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Message Board
Seed Exchange
Subject: Jala Maize or other tall Corn

ozarkgiantgrower Southern Missouri
Hi there, I saw there was someone selling Jala corn down a couple of threads, but I don't know if any one is still selling any Jala or other tall corn? I'm also keeping a look out for Diane's strain and Craven sunflowers, so if ya' know any one that has some that would be great.

Thanks!
Jason
3/16/2007 11:27:39 PM

Young Potter England, United Kingdom
ooooh, I might be interested lol - I like growing giants even though this is my first year!
3/17/2007 2:48:36 AM

GR8PUMPKIN.NET(Shannon) Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)
They are in the bubble Jason.
3/17/2007 8:58:26 AM

Young Potter England, United Kingdom
I've already got some tall sunflowers - giant single, it says 10ft on the packet, but I know you can get sunflowers up to 25ft - anyone know where I could get some giant sunflowers/corn like that?
3/17/2007 9:33:03 AM

sunflower_info Ewing, NJ
Young Potter,
I already sent you some Jala maize seed, Bott's Strain, and Craven Sunflowers.
3/18/2007 1:36:22 AM

Young Potter England, United Kingdom
oh - are you the guy I've been e-mailing??? I didn't know you had an account on here lol! I must have posted that before you'd confirmed you'd sent them lol! Thanks - can't wait to receive them :)
3/18/2007 2:47:46 AM
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Here is proof he knew I sent it!
In fact, on March 12th I sent this email to our seed grubbing friend
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:39:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Brian Moore" <sunflower_info@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Giant Corn Seeds
To: potterfanpete@hotmail.com
I am packaging seeds today. I sent a bunch in the mail in the morning. I'm sending the rest tomorrow morning.

Thanks,
Brian

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From: potterfanpete@hotmail.com
To: sunflower_info@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Giant Corn Seeds
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:44:16 +0000
OK, thanks, will tell you when I get them! I really appreciate it...just gonna try and talk to you on AIM!

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This guy is trying to pull a fast one on everyone.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 07, 2007, 08:38:52: I'VE apologised for goodness sake - please forgive me! I thought gardeners were meant to be a good bunch but obviously not! please forgive me and drop the sbject
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Admin aka Dan on April 07, 2007, 08:56:56: Hi All,

Pete has asked me to delete his account, which is understandable.

I know after a member last year gathered seeds for free, and then started selling them on ebay after claiming to be only 13, suspicions where raised by Pete, however I (naive fool that I am), believe his 'background info'.

I'm not going to delete the account yet, it would be nice if we forgot the 'seed swapping' antics, and pete could become a normal low-profile member, after all I'm curious to see how giant the crops he gets are!

On the flip side, Pete if you are forgiven, don't ask for any moe seed ;)

I'll revisit this thread later today to see how everyone feels.

Dan
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Curryandchips on April 07, 2007, 15:45:30: Not sure if Dan is expecting opinions to be posted here, but as he already knows, I support his decision. I hope this leads to us all being aghast at the pictures of monster vegetables ... :D
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 07, 2007, 15:54:43: Thanks Dan - I hope everyone takes the same approach as you...won't ask for any more seed! I'm turning over a new leaf today, so I hope you'll all re-consider me :D Here's to some giant veg and sunflowers :)
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 07, 2007, 23:20:57: Well after thinking about it all day I had decided not to post as I don't intend to be drawn into taking sides but I have just got received another piece of information that is now worrying me which connects to something Dan has said and Rosebud thought might be a possibillity. Pete has recently opened an ebay account. As he has frequently said he has no money, it would seem he cannot buy anything so it would appear he intends to be a seller. I will leave other folks to ponder this but I now think things are leading to one end. Sorry Dan you asked for imput,XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 07, 2007, 23:42:31: After having several chats with Pete, I'm convinced he really is a schoolboy. He knows too much about SATS and what the teachers say about them to be anything else! A fake would surely not have brought the subject up when I make no secret of being a teacher. Even if he is selling seed he's been given, this is schoolboy level stuff.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 07, 2007, 23:54:05: I agree , I too believe he is a school boy, I too work in a school, I think we may differ on what is schoolboy level stuff. XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Grandma on April 08, 2007, 01:00:11: No one could have failed to notice how frequently PFP has asked for free seeds. However I was quite shocked when, after posting a pic of one of my tall bearded irises, I received a pm from this 'young man' asking if I ...'could send him some rhizomes'. You can't exactly pop a pinch of iris rhizomes in an envelope, can you? Obviously I didn't send him any but I can't help wondering how many other A4A folk have been asked for freebies other than seeds. Perhaps this problem should be discussed more openly? If PFP is genuine, he should have nothing to worry about. Thank you.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 08, 2007, 08:39:22: Jeannine - under what name have I opened an ebay account? Should it be skett7957 - that is my dads account. I am NOT intending to sell seeds! I am only growing the seeds for goodness sake! Is it not possible that I may just want to GROW THE SEEDS??? I've apologised for what I've done, have turned over a new leaf and am trying to start again, but people are holding me back from this. If genuine means that I am simply wanting to grow the seeds, then yes I am.

Pete
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 08, 2007, 09:27:56: Grandma I think this the mainpoint that has disturbed quite a few of us,when a plant or seed is mentioned in conversation on a site it is by way of sharing an experience or an interest,if we have seeds etc to offer to share we state that.
It is not an open invitation to ask for stock and this has been happening all over the site, I chose to ignore it as you and many other people I know have done,but many folks have given, that is OK, it is their choice to do so,but a bigger picture is emerging now that was brought on by Pete himself.As part of it involved me, the events that happened and I could do longer ignore the situation. Others who have had similar experiences have come forwrd and we have the situation we are in now. Ignoring a child repeatedly is not an easy position to be in and persistance,combined with inappropriate PMs eventually gets annoying.

I truly don't know where we go from here but I feel more uncomfortable about the situation than I did even yesterday.

Pete always has an explanation for everything that is uncovered, it often sounds plausible but he insists we should forgive him, I forgive him, but that does not take away the uncomfortable feeling I get everytime a bit more comes out.

This thread runs the risk of now turning into a for and against post for Pete and this is far too good a site to risk problems there. Pete through down the gauntlet when his request to close his account was made public. Once it is there it is more difficult to ignore it.

Any comment made brings a response from Pete, again a for or against response.

If an adult was going on sites all over the world, begging free seeds, then swapping them on other sites to get better free seeds, and this was proven, what would happen. Pete has had enough seeds to start a nursery, he knows that as do many other people, here and on all the other forums he posts on,which many of us do by the way, he cannot possible grow them all so why ask for them and accept them. He well maybe just an overzealous kid, but just how mch can one excuse due to his youth.

That is as far as my thinking goes.

Pete, I would like to ask you one question about a topic that may make me more settled and I would be glad of a truthful answer,who wrote the letters signed by your parents please, you do not of course have to answer,you may PM me with this one point.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 08, 2007, 10:05:01: Pete, thank you for your answer. Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Grandma on April 08, 2007, 10:25:19: Thanks, Jeannine.

Even without knowing the details of your personal communication problems with PFP, this looks like it's going to be a tough one to sort out.

I didn't know anyone else had been approached, (through pms, :o) for freebies other than seeds. Now I know I'm not the only one - that really is worrying.

PFP does seem to lean towards the more unusual/expensive varieties of everything. Not the sort of - 'I'd be grateful for anything you can spare' - that might be expcted from a child.

Named iris rhizomes aren't cheap - and they are easily resold!

I can't imagine anyone on this site would NOT want to encourage an enthusiastic youngster in the pleasures of gardening. It just seems (to me) that the kind, generous people at A4A should be in possession of as much relevant information as possible. This would enable them to make an informed decision before parting with expensive seeds/plants etc.

Those of us who have contributed to this thread know to be cautious. An awful lot of folks won't have seen it. I don't envy Dan having to sort this out.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Hyacinth on April 08, 2007, 16:14:53: This thread revisited.....

As a direct result of a PM I received this morning I've traced the verifiable links that I was given. Pete is revealed as a person who has been targetting sites world-wide to obtain v. expensive and specialized seeds.

His posts, which I've verified, over a wide timescale have revealed inaccuracies and inconsistancies in his representation of himself, the end goal to obtain more freebie seeds than he had/has space to cultivate...(and we all know, from his postings here that his Mum isn't any great shakes in the kitchen either ::))

As a direct result of this, my Poster has put the word about on the www Forums warning them of this chappie and he's been blacklisted.

I now, and reluctantly, am doing the same here.

Many times, when newbies have come to this Site I've welcomed them with the words "check Swap Shop"! Peeps starting on on a lottie/plottie need all the help they can get, & I've always said that although we operate 'Swaps', a pinch of seeds here & a pinch of seeds there are seldom missed by us and it's nice to encourage new growers; in time we will get back what we have sown?

This episode has left a nasty sour taste in my mouth; I feel that our collective generosity has been abused and I, for one, will feel stilted in saying such things to anyone new to growing vegetables again for a while.

To you, Pete, I say....life in the Real World is a learning process.....if we believe that you are really going to grow all the seeds you've had, then Good On Yer, Lad.......may your acres be profitable and productive.

If you are setting up as an entrepreneur by growing some and trading/selling on eBay (using your father's account) in the future the freebies you've acquired, then still I wish you success.

But please, please, be honest with the peeps here on Lotties4 all. I think we all appreciate an entrepeneur and would cheer one on....to be taken for fools and lied to by misrepresentation, is something else.

Finally, what would I wish for your future here on Lotties4, just one of the many UK sites you frequent?

I can only quote the words of Captain Oates on the ill-fated Scott Expedition....

Captain Oates was the 'very gallant gentleman' who walked to his death in a blizzard, hoping to save his comrades on Scott's disastrous South Pole expedition in 1912. As he crawled from their tent on to the ice in temperatures of -40 °C, Oates achieved immortality with the famous parting remark: 'I am just going outside and may be some time.'

Enjoy your walk..... :-[
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Grandma on April 08, 2007, 16:22:11: Lish - you've done every decent, honest, trusting person on this forum a big favour. Many, many thanks.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: grawrc on April 08, 2007, 16:33:45: Mmm ... it may be a bit "talking after the event" but I must say that something jarred with me when I first met this person in the chat room. Something seemed not quite right. Perhaps, as one who spends a great deal of time with young people, I was not convinced that he was actually 13? Anyway probably doesn't matter. But for some reason I have studiously avoided threads where he has appeared. Just a gut feelin... ::) ???
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 08, 2007, 16:42:12: Lish, I have just come online and read your posting, my question to Pete earlier which he did answer made up my mind,I am totally with you on this one.There is very little I can add to what you have already said as there is nothing I would change in any way. We have been had,of that there is no doubt.

What I find truly sad is that encouraging the young to take an interest in gardening is a very important and I for one would encourage any child to contact me in a sensible and honest manner, I would help whole heartedly.

Pete, my advice to you is to remember when you play in the big world it is not as big as you think,it is easy to be spotted when you frequently use the same comments, pleas and requests with the identical wordings in some of your posts to other sites.

To lie to us is bad enough, to lie in your parents name is a wicked thing to do, we are not fools and it was easy to see through you.

I think you should bow out gracefully.

This is a great site, I never tire of telling folks to join and get involved, it is a community of friends, there is a lot of trust here, we share and we support one another through lows and highs,through all joys and some very traumatic misfortunes. This site could not run so well if the folks that are on here did not trust and share,and I think we do it very well. Anyone of us would I am sure jump in and help anyone in need, but we have been abused here.

Finally the truth has come out, many of us have known for some time and have wondered what to do. Pete, you yourself finally opened the door.

Let us all move on..

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Hyacinth on April 08, 2007, 16:50:22: Well......I've not quoted Chapter and Verse....on Easter Day? I'm not into driving nails into hands.....but if anyone wants to PM me to get the links I've followed I'll do it.... :'(

Enough that I 'triangulated' ;D the verifications and I 'm 100% sure of what I've written....

Beg you all tho...don't be harsh on the laddie.....years back I was in my early 20s & working as a PA/Sec for an Italian millionaire in his mid-60s....how he and his little friend Lauro (the Shipping Magnate, owner of the Achille Lauro , the hijacked liner) made their money in the back streets of Naples to start off in their respective careers is a tale in itself.......good on anyone who goes for it.

PS I've jut read Jeannine's post before I hit 'post'......well said J......it's not a witch-hunt here, Pete, just that peeps who freely give to you know the playing field and can make their informed decisons?.......

Lish
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 08, 2007, 17:05:52: Thanks for that Lish - please don't take this as a last thought on me - I'm not all bad. I've asked Dan to delete my account, but have as of yet had no reply.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Hyacinth on April 08, 2007, 17:17:50: Quote from: potterfanpete on April 08, 2007, 17:05:52
Thanks for that Lish - please don't take this as a last thought on me - I'm not all bad. I've asked Dan to delete my account, but have as of yet had no reply.

Prob'ly out on his lottie doin lottie things? Brill day here in the West Mids.....hope he's got our good weather....no need to ask him to delete your account & do extra admin?.....if you stopped posting that would be sufficient.....good luck for the future...I'm sure that one day we will look back & say " gosh, I knew him when......"
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Curryandchips on April 08, 2007, 17:24:15: Thank you for that disturbing information Alishka. I had been following this saga as a result of an episode in the chat room, and had taken a lenient posture, giving benefit of doubt, weight of evidence etc. The latest posting by pfp leads me to believe I have been duped as well (which is actually extremely easy ;D). In my case, all I gave though was goodwill, so don't feel a victim to a scam. Like yourself however, I may also be a tad less inclined to be generous in the future.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: glow777 on April 08, 2007, 21:48:42: Adding my piece

Ive been following this thread and threads on other internet forums with interest. I must say I agree with Jeannine and LIsh 100% cant say he had a warning

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,91/topic,29539.0 (http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,91/topic,29539.0)
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: busy_lizzie on April 08, 2007, 22:14:33: Thanks Lish and Jeannine for following this up and protecting the reputation of the Site. As everyone has said this is a very generous board, but it would be very sad if this was spoilt by someone's abuse. Hope it has been a learning curve for Pete. :( busy_lizzie
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: lorna on April 11, 2007, 14:37:08: I have been away in Kent for 2 weeks and to come back and read the posts on this thread certainly leaves a nasty taste!! Since joining A4A I have had several members who have been extremely kind and sent me seeds (most of you know what an OLD novice I am.) I did manage this year to return a little of the kindness. It really saddens me to read that it appears that the generous members on this site have been had, can't get much lower than that in my opinion. I have seen several posts offering certain seeds and thought I would like some of those but to be honest I have felt that I couldn't keep asking for favours. I must admit when I first started reading Pete's requests I PM'd a couple of members asking what the heck he was going to do with all the seeds. This is such a great site and I amongst many others love being a member may the site continue in the friendly atmosphere we have shared.
Lorna.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 11, 2007, 18:28:46: Lorna, don't you ever dare not ask, there is a big difference between you and the other problem, I for one would be mortified if you didn't ask. No one person can have all the seeds that are available in the world wide market, and sharing seeds is a blessing. Nice to see you back, XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: lorna on April 11, 2007, 18:56:53: Thanks Jeannine, I got back Mon evening and spent 3 hours trying to catch up on 150 emails and attempting to read 2 weeks of A4A posts.......haven't finished them yet ;D
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 11, 2007, 19:04:04: Drop me a note when you dig yourself out xx Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: MacArthur Park on April 12, 2007, 11:55:26: I have to say as a newbie this thread really freaked me out! :'(

I remember how I felt when I was accused of being a sales person in my first thread, (thanks Redclanger! :'()so as I read through the messages it all felt a bit Lord of the Flies-ish. Then as I checked out past threads I looked at it from the other point of view and understood the feelings of people who had been taken for a ride.

Having gone away and pondered for a while something else hit me. If this had been a children's forum and you were young teens, how many would have happily arranged to meet this person? Scary huh? I have used it as a perfect example to explain to my 13 year old daughter why I have changed the parental control options to only allow her on sites I approve of. I explained that it isn't because I don't trust HER, (although I can remember being 13 so there is an element of that!)it's because I don't trust people who can say they are anything they want to be in order to get something they want. She's not happy, but at least she understands why I'm doing it.

By the way, I am either a tall blonde gorgeous woman with a figure to rival Jordan...or I'm a short redhead with grey highlights....you choose the most plausible! ;)
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: sunflower_info on April 13, 2007, 20:20:21: Look what I just found! I sent him Craven Strain Sunflowers already. There is even information about them on my website. Why would be have a need to contact Norm Craven? Norm is one of the best giant growers in the world. Norm also has seeds to many giant plants besides sunflowers. Looks like our little friend is up to his old tricks again.

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/msgboard/ViewThread.asp?b=3&p=196342

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Subject: Looking For

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Young Potter England, United Kingdom
Hi all, just wondering if anyone has Norm Cravens email address...thanks :)

Pete
4/13/2007 6:52:29 AM

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Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Hyacinth on April 13, 2007, 20:59:29: Whew! Wish I'd half his energy ::) ;D

A spin-off from this, tho, is that you've opened my eyes to the completely unknown world, to me, of the Giant growers. I never knew that such a small(?) specialised world existed til now.....your Jala maize for instance, S-I? That the provenance for seeds currently on offer can be traced right back to yourself (if I understood correctly?)...now that's truly fascinating to me...

8) Lishka
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: potterfanpete on April 13, 2007, 21:53:59: OK, this is gonna be my last post. I'm sorry for what I've done, I'm turning over a new leaf. Brian - I was only gonna email him asking if he had any tips on growing them - is that so hard to think about? Could we please now stop posting on this thread - I have apologised and the case is closed. Thanks

pete
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: grawrc on April 13, 2007, 21:57:02: I think it will be closed when you stop posting?
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 13, 2007, 22:03:32: You know Lish, this big thing is catching on. I even ordered really big squash today,I have never beed competitive but I am really curious. So you are right.

XX Jeannine

PS you are also right grawc !!
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: kitten on April 14, 2007, 00:03:01: Thank you all so much, esp Jeannine & Lishka, for getting to the bottom of this. I was suspicious of this character from day one. It's restored my faith in my own gut instinct! x
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: glow777 on April 14, 2007, 07:19:34: Quote from: Jeannine on April 13, 2007, 22:03:32
You know Lish, this big thing is catching on. I even ordered really big squash today,I have never beed competitive but I am really curious. So you are right.
ditto ordered a 100lb squash from Suttons seeds over a week ago but it hasnt arrived, mind you on the big dig lst night one of the growers was saying that he only plants one plant as it takes up an area 24'x18' :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 14, 2007, 09:15:31: OH Glow you have my interest!!! What kind of squash,mine was a huge butternut type, XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Hyacinth on April 14, 2007, 09:42:20: Jeannine, we'll have to rename you 'Little'n'Large' ;D
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 14, 2007, 10:01:37: Yep, I bought 'Really Big' butternut squash, grows to 6 pounds,12inches x7 inches.
I also bought 'Wee Be Little' pumpkins on the same order!!!

I must be losing it you know, I don't even like butternut particularly, this was one for the kids.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Hyacinth on April 14, 2007, 11:33:22: Well, if you two are seriously into growing the Giant stuff, we'll be wanting pics....loads and loads of pics..or...got panoramic viewing on your cameras you two? ::)

Looking at the link Brian posted above, there are loads of knowledgeable people there to give you tips on growing them 8)

All the best.
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: glow777 on April 14, 2007, 16:11:13: Quote from: Jeannine on April 14, 2007, 09:15:31
OH Glow you have my interest!!! What kind of squash,mine was a huge butternut type, XX Jeannine
oops might of meant to write 100lb and pumkin - sorry the heat got to me
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: glow777 on April 14, 2007, 16:13:54: further more the link to the pumpkin
http://www.suttons.co.uk/pd_175587_Pumpkin_Hundredweight.htm (http://www.suttons.co.uk/pd_175587_Pumpkin_Hundredweight.htm)

btw how do you support those sunflowers
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Jeannine on April 14, 2007, 16:35:16: Glow I am gutted,I thought you had found a supersquash and I was getting really excited...........darn a pumpkin!!
XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: Hyacinth on April 14, 2007, 17:40:40: Quote from: glow777 on April 14, 2007, 16:13:54

btw how do you support those sunflowers

(been sitting in the garden going through some papers....Income Support, perhaps?) :P

dunno what sunflower seeds Brian is sending g/daughter, and she looks pretty tall for a 5yr old, but...... ??? ::)
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: SMP1704 on April 15, 2007, 21:22:33: Quote from: kitten on April 14, 2007, 00:03:01
Thank you all so much, esp Jeannine & Lishka, for getting to the bottom of this. I was suspicious of this character from day one. It's restored my faith in my own gut instinct! x

I'm with you Kitten - something was off, just couldn't put my finger on it.....

Anyway as this is a sunflower thread - I have sowed 72 sunflowers seeds - and they have all germinated - oo er missus! I think that will be enough for one lottie. ;D
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: ninnyscrops on April 15, 2007, 21:37:33: Glad it's back to sunflowers......... we got some free from a supplier's mailing and all have germinated and are in 3" pots about 2" tall. Have taken them out of the greenhouse and they are in the mini one (flaps up squadron leader!) next step please?
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: SMP1704 on April 15, 2007, 22:15:31: Take them out of the mini during the day - then gradually leave out overnight - but somewhere that the munchers can't easily reach.

Keep well watered, keep your eye on the roots and plant out early/mid May or when frosts are not a threat in your area.

Happy growing
Title: Re: Spare Sunflower Seeds
Post by: ninnyscrops on April 15, 2007, 22:35:40: Roots are beginning to peek so I'd better pot them on into something bigger. No garden dining at the moment - all my hardening offs are up on the table, no munchers up there at all! ;D ;D ;D