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Title: National Allotments Week
Post by: gavin on January 12, 2005, 21:14:29
Summat to look forward to, lads and lassies?

8th-14th August - more details on http://neildixon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

All best - Gavin
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: busy_lizzie on January 13, 2005, 23:55:20
Thanks Gavin, that is good information.  I would be interested to hear what anyone else might be planning for that week.

Think it is important to promote it as at our Committee Meeting last month we heard about lots of Allotment Sites that are under threat.  Housing land is so short now that some Councils are being very unscrupulous and trying to deter people from applying for plots so they can close some sites down and use them for building land.  >:( busy_lizzie 
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: djbrenton on February 02, 2005, 15:18:56
We're planning a varied day with an open day, produce competition and hopefully a farmers market on the car park. The plan is to sell allotment grown veg and persuade organic meat, egg and dary farmers to take stalls along with Nottingham Organic Gardeners Society and maybe Five a Day.
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: Sarah-b on February 03, 2005, 11:39:12
I have been told that at the open day, plot holders wouldn't be able to sell produce as that is against some rule or other - how are you getting round that?

Sarah
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: djbrenton on February 03, 2005, 23:19:41
We have associate membership at a nominal fee for people to buy from our trading hut. That should also cover buying veg I expect. The farmers market will require a licence ( all markets within 6 miles of Nottingham Market Place are subject to licence ) and that would enable us to sell our own produce as well.
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: lancelotment on February 14, 2005, 18:04:58
That's good news!  Maybe if the council think that there is some free publicity in the local press, the useless so-and-so's will get off their backside and do something about the unattended plots!!
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: wardy on February 15, 2005, 22:45:33
Lancelotment      We've elected an allotmenteer to our parish council in an effort to get some action.  So it's free sheds and greenhouses from here on in!   ;D

Wardy
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: Sarah-b on March 01, 2005, 22:22:06
Have just fixed our date for our Allotment Open Day to be in that week. But there seems to still be a problem around selling veg there and keeping the profit for the site. The councillors say that is just not possible and that any profits could only go to charity (not saying that is a bad thing, but could be a good way of raising us some cash). Does anyone have any further info? DJBrenton?
thanks,
sarah.
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: NattyEm on March 02, 2005, 11:26:42
Sarah do you have an association? I wonder if you could register yourselves as a charity? Just an idea :)
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: wardy on March 02, 2005, 21:37:48
Sarah-B    I'd be tempted not to tell them.  It's not like you're running a wholesale fruit and veg business, making zillions in profits and denying the council their wack.  It's only small beer for a one-off event for which the allotmenteers will have stumped up their own money, time and effort to try and attract people to the council's allotments.  You're doing their job for them when all said and done.  If the money goes back to your allotment association where's the harm? 

But that's just my opinion  :)

Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: Sarah-b on March 03, 2005, 20:22:04
That would be my opinion too Wardy, but it seems we are in the pocket of the council and can't do anything without their say-so. It does seem a shame that we can't use the oppurtunity to raise some funds for the allotments.
Maybe Emmas idea would work - will look into it...

thanks all.
sb
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: wardy on March 03, 2005, 21:44:46
Applying for charitable status is a huge undertaking.  The paperwork is mind boggling  >:(
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: Sarah-b on March 04, 2005, 08:59:09
Really? - that's probably not an option then  :(
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: alotalot on March 04, 2005, 09:49:29
Sarah-b        Don't sell your produce, just make it known you welcome donations to your assoc.! Who can argue with that?
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: NattyEm on March 04, 2005, 17:30:28
It is a bit of an undertaking, and your income has to be over a certain amount, I forget how much, but i isn't that bad, else no one would do it! You do have to have certain things in place like constitution and te like, but its not undoable. is that a real word??

The place to look is http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/index.asp
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: wardy on March 04, 2005, 17:54:48
I agree with alotalot - much easier to get round it that way than going down the charity route because your aim is to sell a bit of veg - not run a charity  ;D
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: NattyEm on March 04, 2005, 21:04:46
Oh I completely agree with that sentiment ;D
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: wardy on March 05, 2005, 22:04:35
Right!  National Allotments Week.  We are all lotty holders. Put your money where your mouth is - what are you going to do?

Posts please  ;D
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: busy_lizzie on March 05, 2005, 22:45:41
I have put it as an item on our Agenda for next weeks committee meeting.  So I will tell you after the committee have discussed it.  Nothing was done last year so not too optimistic but I intend to push for something as I do think Allotments should be promoted.  Will get back to you.  :) busy_lizzie
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: djbrenton on March 08, 2005, 09:33:28
I'm not sure why your council says you can't sell veg. Allotment holders in our area regularly set up at the roadside and sell things ( without anyone hassling them for licenses ) I do know that different councils have different rules relating to 'peddling' and the like though.
Anyone with an Association shop can sell to members of the public by charging a nominal fee for 'Associate membership' and it's hard to see how the council can prohibit allotment holders from selling their produce. I often have people wandering into my plots asking if I've any runner beans or whatever to sell.
What you may be falling foul of is market bye-laws or something.
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: busy_lizzie on March 09, 2005, 13:32:14
I am thinking of an open day coupled with a Site scarecrow competiton.  Some good gardeners on hand to give tips and our shop open with refreshments and vegetables or flowers for sale in aid of the society or charity. Will have to see what the other committee members think.

I like some of your ideas Wardy.  :) busy_lizzie
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: Derek on March 09, 2005, 20:29:00
Wardy

On the other side of the Shire to you we are organising an open day in August..13th I believe .Its being run by the Council to promote Allotments and will be held at Brocks Hill Community Centre in Oadby, Leics..entitled 'Healthy Living'

We are planning various plant stalls, Art display and photo display from local societies with pictures of lotties of course.
We hope to have someone bring some chickens, a five portions of veg display, wine tasting. police will be there with display on shed security, possibly bee keeping. Lots of other ideas have been discussed

We are also looking at a scarcrow building competition for the kids, face painting etc.

There might be some ideas there for you too

Derek
Title: Re: National Allotments Week
Post by: Derek on March 10, 2005, 07:32:48
Oadby & Wigston in Bloom have now been renamed its now Pride of the Borough...This is the entry into the National competition. Can't get too involved with this as their very regular meetings clash with my work.

The 'Healthy Living' day is a separate event mainly promoting allotments and, of course, the Borough itself. I am involved with this project...I do manage to 'wangle' (technical term) some time to attend these meetings

Derek
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