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Photo Gallery => Photo Talk => Topic started by: katynewbie on March 14, 2009, 16:13:30
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Am thinking of buying one. I have a compact digital camera and love it, but I want to take more wildlife shots and get better at it all. Anyone got any suggestions for a good SLR for a beginner?
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You really only have 2 options Canon or Nikon. there are other, eg sony but they and wannabies. The other question is how much do you wanna spend.
You are better to spend more on a good body and upgrade lenses at a later date. There's lots second hand on ebay. and often cheaper if you import from Japan.
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My OH has the Canon (I remember he and Simba comparing notes at Barnsdale!- what a lovely day that was!)
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depends on how much you want to spend really but simba42 is right canon or nikon, me im in the nikon camp i think the feel of the nikon is not as plasticie and cheap as the canon, but my cousin is a pro photographer and he is canon all the way. i have nikon d90 having started out with a d70 but its all down to how much you want to spend and which of the 2 brands takes your fancy.
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I have a Canon 40D...at the moment I would say Nikon is ahead of Canon. However once you have bought lots of lenses for your model it makes it difficult to change. I am very happy with Canon, I had a 20D before this one and a film version before that.
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iv'e got a nikon d50, i chose nikon for the lense option ,take a twenty year old lense and it still fits ,don't know about cannon's never had one!!
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My wee brother loves his digital Nikon & gets fantastic results... We still use the good old 35mm Canon 40E, might go digital one day. We'd probably stay with Canon just to keep the lenses.
Slightly straying, but I was sat on the bus beside someone who had a silver Leica M8 the other day. I'd love an M7, not sure if I'd shell out £4k for an M8 though, even though it is pure beauty.
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I really love my Canon 350D, with a Tamron 28-75mm lens. I was advised against getting the 'kit' lenses, the ones you buy with the camera in an all-in deal - because they're usually pretty kak. The Tamron lens is nice and sharp and the best I could find for the money, about 250 quid.
However, for wildlife, I'm finding my Canon Powershot S5IS to be much more useful, because it has a really great zoom, for the price.
If you look at these pics, you can see wildlife pics taken with both. (It tells you, under 'additional info', what camera was used).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34242198@N00/sets/72157606354331592/
Some of them, like the ospreys, show fairly low quality, where I have cropped shots were already at the full extent of the optical zoom - in that case, I was also in a moving boat, and the light was not great! The pics of the bullfrog show what the lens can do in more favourable conditions. I couldn't have got nearly so close up with my Tamron lens.
If I was a professional, of course I'd invest in huge great tele-lenses - but I simply can't afford it, and also, I don't want to lug around lots of equipment, and be switching lenses around. The Powershot really meets my requirements very well. It also does great macro!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34242198@N00/2354807007/in/set-72157604214695012/
And good quality video:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34242198@N00/2478149015/in/set-72157604962824172/
What I like it least for, is landscape. I don't much like the 'texture' it gives, for that, and much prefer my 350D, or even my old Nikon compact, which has a nice 'soft' texture which works well with landscape. Would have linked to an example, but I seem to have taken those down.
On Flickr, you can search for pics by any given camera. It doesn't tell you the lens, though... but could still be informative.
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Barnsdale.. thats going back a few years..
Yes im a Canon follower. But only because i had canon 35mm film and wanted to keep my lenses. I now have 3 canons backs and multiple lenses which i use for weddings and portraits.
If you can afford it the best Canon you can get is the 5d Mk2 for price and spec. but it's £2k body only.
You can get the Canon 450D for under £500 with a lens kit. You have to go to a shop and try it for size. I dont get on well with the smaller bodies as i have huge hands.. and fat fingers... makes for pressing smal buttons and dials hard.
Is there another meet up this year?
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I dont get on well with the smaller bodies as i have huge hands..
I love the Canon for the related reason, that I have small hands and it fits perfectly! :) My only gripe really with the Canon 350D body is that my nose sometimes switches the button that changes from single shot, to multiple shot, to timer. Not that I have a big nose, just an average one... :D
Oh and also that it hangs at a slightly uncomfortable 45 degree angle, they put the strap rings in the wrong place.
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Like everyone else has said, it all depends on how much you want to spend. I have recently bought my first DSLR, a Nikon D40, only £242 on Amazon, which I didnt think was too bad. It takes great photos, but only has 6.1 mp so prints any bigger that A4 is a no no.
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I'm very happy with my Panasonic FZ50, it does exactly what it says on the tin ;D. Also gives you the option to override all the automatic settings if you need to.Had some great pictures from a variety of settings, particularly good outside for sporting competitions. Is available now for under £400, I paid over £500 for mine :'(
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After 20+ years with Canon EOS systems I have recently bought an Olympus E420 as I wanted a digital slr with a compact size.
The reviews have been brilliant throughout the press and I agree completely - you can buy it in a twins lens kit for just shy of £400 but beware as many camera manufacturers are really hiking up prices atm - some by 30-40%!
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You really only have 2 options Canon or Nikon. there are other, eg sony but they and wannabies. The other question is how much do you wanna spend.
I own a Sony Alpha 100 SLR....and it's certainly not a wannabe. Sony took over Minolta and upgraded their labs. They had the sense to retain the Minolta lens fitting so all the lenses from my Minolta Dynax are compatable with the Sony mount.
My son has the latest Canon (lousy grip on it!) and I'll pit my Sony against it any day. Check out some of my pic's on here.
Ken.
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Thanks for all the info folks. Have gone with the Canon EOS, I have small hands!!
Once I work out how to use the b***** I will post some pics!!
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I recommend using sigma lenses rather than canon as they're almost as good and cheaper.
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Sigma (and -my opinion- slightly less so Tamron) are both good lenses for general work. If you're looking to do detailed macro or pro work, pay the extra.
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I bought a Sigma lens first and then took it back and traded it for the Tamron. I found the Sigma a little tiny bit less sharp. Also, if I remember rightly, it was a little stiff at zooming. But it might have been the individual one I had, I don't know! Certainly in reviews, they seemed about neck-and-neck.
I've never regretted choosing the Canon EOS, though. Love it. :)
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I agree that for the price Sigma and Tamron and others are good for the price. But i have a had 4 Sigma Lenses over the last years and 2 of which have not lasted more that 2 years of use.
Both times the diaphragm has gone. Different Lenses. I sent one away for repair. £100 later it came back working, but clonking on the zoom.
Personally now I don't trust Sigma.
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Thanks for all the info folks. Have gone with the Canon EOS, I have small hands!!
Once I work out how to use the b***** I will post some pics!!
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What one did you get?
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The Tamron lens does feel better engineered than the Sigma did.
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I got a deal and am now the proud owner of a Canon 450D EOS. Two lenses, one is a really big one and one not so big.
You see? I really do not know what I am talking about! One is a Tamron and the other is not. I am not with the camera atm, will report back when I have all the numbers in front of me!
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"One big and one not so big".......Katy you drive me to drink......... ;D ;D ;D
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i reliase the op has already got the camera but for future refernce people may want to consider Pentax, they have been making slr's for years and have now got a decent but very good priced range of DSLR's. they also take any lense pretty much ever made by pentax in the last 30 years or so.
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I find it frustrating that my original Canon lenses don't fit the EOS range...bought Tamron for the EOS 300 (film)
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Ok, so, the lenses are a Canon EF-S 18-55mm and a Tamron AF70-300mm. I am told these will give me a good range of possibilities. I am in the Lake District for a couple of days next week and hope to try it all out properly!
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Oh! Thank heavens......I thought for a moment you were into obsolete military hardware!
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Ok, so, the lenses are a Canon EF-S 18-55mm and a Tamron AF70-300mm. I am told these will give me a good range of possibilities. I am in the Lake District for a couple of days next week and hope to try it all out properly!
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That's a good all-round set, Katy. If you want to add to it consider wide-angle and Macro.
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Now there's a word...the 70-30 says LD Macro 1:2. What does that mean then? I will read the instructions soon, promise!!
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I'm very happy with my Panasonic FZ50, it does exactly what it says on the tin ;D. Also gives you the option to override all the automatic settings if you need to.Had some great pictures from a variety of settings, particularly good outside for sporting competitions. Is available now for under £400, I paid over £500 for mine :'(
I am still very happy with my Pana Lumix DMC FZ10 (five years old in June), the Leica lens is superb, 12x zoom, 1:2.8 throughout the zoom range. Macro at 50mm or add a 1 dioptre supplementary lens and it goes down to 1mm (six times life size). I bought it soon after they were launched, paid £399 for it. The initial import stock was sold out but I eventually managed to locate one dealer who had one left.
There was one snag (or so I thought), the video recorded as a .mov format and Windows media player wouldn't play it. However, I have now changed to Ubuntu/Linux and use Elisa Media Player which seems to cope with anything (and all for free).
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Now there's a word...the 70-30 says LD Macro 1:2. What does that mean then? I will read the instructions soon, promise!!
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1:2 in the old days meant that you could get close enough for the image on the negative/slide to be half life size - so pretty close. 1:1 was the same size on the neg.
Oh, and for flash in close up work, you need to get the flash off the camera. Ideally, a ring flash round the lens is the best.
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Ring flashes (macro photography) give a very flat looking picture, use reflectors. You don't need anything fancy you can use scrunched up aluminium foil flattened out and stuck onto card and white card to reflect light onto the subject, cloudy days often work better than bright sunlight and blue skies. Wind is a big problem in outdoor macro photography. A tripod and shutter release is a good idea and use mirror lock-up.
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Ring flashes (macro photography) give a very flat looking picture, use reflectors. You don't need anything fancy you can use scrunched up aluminium foil flattened out and stuck onto card and white card to reflect light onto the subject, cloudy days often work better than bright sunlight and blue skies. Wind is a big problem in outdoor macro photography. A tripod and shutter release is a good idea and use mirror lock-up.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
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I've been meaning to try a home-made ring diffuser on my Powershot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/photophool/185168674/
I don't know if that would work on your camera, though. But just so I don't lead you into trouble here, if you use any kind of diffuser, make sure it isn't able to harm your flash: http://www.flickr.com/groups/canonpowershots5is/discuss/72157605853791974/ (That guy damaged his with a sheet of A4 paper!)
You could join a Flickr discussion group for your specific camera, great place to pick up tips and ask if you have any questions.
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Thanks Ken...was waiting for all the ring flash fanatics to jump on me and beat me up. But I will admit if you want to phtograph insects that may move quickly you probably do need the ring flash.
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Horses for courses of course, Kea. But it isn't always the thoroughbred that wins the race, Eh?
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